Australian Shiraz Viognier - How does it COMPARE to Northern Rhone?

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If you love Shiraz, you've probably had a slew of great experiences with Northern Rhone examples. This week I looked at the 2018 Guigal 'Lala' release (La Mouline, La Landonne and La Turque) and it got me thinking how different those wines are from their Australian counterparts. Australia makes some of the very best New World Shiraz - so let's take a look - how do the two countries compare (and how are the styles different?)?
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - 2020 Guigal La Doriane, Condrieu, Rhone
2:11 - 2021 Serrat Shiraz Viognier, Yarra Valley (VIC)
3:40 - 2019 Lerida Estate Shiraz Viognier, Canberra District (NSW)
5:16 - 2021 Clonakilla Shiraz Viognier, Murrumbateman (NSW)
7:22 - 2020 Standish The Relic, Barossa Valley (SA)
8:40 - How do these New World wines compare to their Old World counterparts?
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@isidoro8566 Жыл бұрын

Loved the videos that I've watched so far. more of a scotch guy myself but learning bit by bit about wine with your kind help. thank you for your work & cheers :)

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

It’s all very similar flavour complexity and detail - glad to be able to help with a bridge between worlds!

@sambowles9746 Жыл бұрын

Great video, on some of my favorites. Looking forward to the videos on the Clonakilla vertical and the 2018 Lala’s.

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Published the Lala’s this morning, and Clonakilla coming up in a week or two 🙏 thanks very much for watching!

@thooky7224 Жыл бұрын

hi Erin, your video educated me much, thank you for your hard work, and keep it up.... cheers

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching🙏

@wce_fan Жыл бұрын

I fortunately managed to get my hands on a bottle of the 2021 Serrat Shiraz Viogner and can’t wait to try it in a few years, especially given your description of it!

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Ah it’s sensational. Good job getting some 🙏

@eta1po Жыл бұрын

I've been trying to keep my bottles of The Relic out of mind to leave but I'm definitely giving one a go this weekend on this back of this vid. Really interesting video.

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

I mean, I’d definitely recommend trying to hang onto them, but if you open one, I am sure it will be appreciated!

@ptg01 Жыл бұрын

Ah yes... Guigal's La Dorianne... World Class !!! So fascinating to see it being blended into red wines in minute quantities.. The "LaLa's" are all spectacular !!! HUGE wines !

@wyattalexander4041 Жыл бұрын

Well way to get us excited those videos on the horizon will be super cool! Very interesting Love the comparison of the old world Viognier Syrah Vs the New world great topic will be looking forward to the Clona Killa video and the Lala’s 🍷

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

The videos are overdue - I’ve been wanting to get these underway for a while now! The comparison between the two is so cool because the wine styles are so different - if they were the same kind of wines it would be boring… but they’re worlds apart. Thanks for watching!

@wyattalexander4041 Жыл бұрын

@@erinlarkin Well I’m certainly excited to hear your thoughts and learn a few new things about them both I’m sure !

@phillipgr1 7 ай бұрын

Hi Erin, thanks for the great video. Could you explain the Aussie labeling trends when it comes to Shiraz vs. Shiraz Viognier? Is it always shown on the label if Viognier is added, or not necessarily? If the latter, how do I know if I'm drinking 100% Shiraz or Shiraz-Viognier? Or does it not matter so much, since "Shiraz Viognier" is more indicative of the cool-climate style, regardless of the fact that some "Shiraz" also contain small portions of Viognier? In NZ, it seems that much of our Syrah is co-fermented with Viognier - this isn't always mentioned on the label, and we never go so far as to call it "Syrah Viognier". Thanks!

@erinlarkin 6 ай бұрын

It’s an interesting question! Probably two ways to answer it. Firstly, in Australian labelling laws, a producer only has to declare varieties that are in excess of 15%. So by that measure, barely any Shiraz Viognier wines ‘need’ to be labelled as such, due to 1-8% of Viognier being the usual range of inclusion. As for why producers may choose not to label their SV wines as such. Viognier introduces floral aromatics and silky tannins to a Shiraz. These are characters that are already present in Shiraz fruit, but that are emphasised by the inclusion of Viognier. Viognier can also stabilise colour, making it look brighter than it would were it a varietal Shiraz. A producer may want to label their wine as SV if they want to attract fans of the style. Because it is a stylistic proclivity. It’s a bit of a tricky one, but ultimately if you like the wine it doesn’t matter what it’s labelled as! Does that answer the question?

@minka8047 Жыл бұрын

@ Erin Larkin do you have to open the 2018 Lala's? ,Not that I won't enjoy the content but isn't that a tad to early for a wine built for the long haul?

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Absolutely it is - but I’m opening them so you don’t have to. As a wine critic, that’s my job!

@atck91 Жыл бұрын

@@erinlarkin well said!

@chrisdavies5515 Жыл бұрын

@@atck91 ❤

@orangeshake1 Жыл бұрын

With more and more Cote-Rotie producers choosing to not include Viognier for chaptalization due to better wine making techniques and equipment (and arguably, global warming), do you think that Australia will follow this trend? Especially since Australia have quite an advantage when it comes to degree days in the first place.

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Well your latter point is certainly true. Chaptalisation is not allowed (or required) in Australia, so the inclusion of Viognier is a stylistic choice rather than a necessity. Many Australian SV styles have very little Viognier in the blend, often as low as 1% (and in the case of the Standish wine I talk about in this video, skins only). As drinkers, we are going to see climate led stylistic shifts all over the globe in the coming years, and the test for producers everywhere will be to maintain terroir and style in the face of changing weather. Great question. Thanks for watching the video! 🙏

@12Trappor Жыл бұрын

Interesting video which got me curious to try some Aussie Shiraz, but I was hoping for more of a comparison with Côte-Rôtie (since it's the origin of the Syrah/Viognier blend). You don't have to open the Lala wines for that. 😄

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Well since I already opened the Lalas, I though it was a good place to start! I can do more - I didn’t even scratch the surface of great producers in Cote-Rotie, as you probably already know🙏

@nickkowal6537 Жыл бұрын

If you need to stop drinking the Relic, can I request a Standish The Relic vertical? 🤣

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

On the radar for 2023!

@nickkowal6537 Жыл бұрын

@@erinlarkin brilliant, I'll look forward to it. I love your channel and your work

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick!

@objetpetita Жыл бұрын

My dad used to live pretty close to the Clonakilla winery in Murrumbateman, used to speak highly of their product. Fuck, I miss him. Thanks for the video

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Wine can be so evocative and good - your dad had good taste 🍷

@itsmederek1 Жыл бұрын

What is the point of comparing Condrieu to Shiraz-Viogner blends?

@colinpetersen1173 Жыл бұрын

I was initially confused too 😄 but the point of the Condrieu is showing what has been added to 'normal' Shiraz to make Shiraz Viognier. It gave Erin a way to discuss the characteristics of Viognier as a guide for what influences on Shiraz to look for in the SV blends.

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Well said Colin! That’s exactly why I included it. Benchmark Viognier to discuss its flavour characteristics and how the grape impacts Shiraz in a blend

@stepheyles-rhonegirl8034 Жыл бұрын

@@erinlarkin Think you did this really well with the Bacon fat descriptor too - it's often discussed in terms of Côte-Rôtie wines but the extra detail of drawing the link between this aroma and the visceral slipperiness of Viognier and the meaty characters of Rhône Syrah just enhanced it that much more.

@erinlarkin Жыл бұрын

Great!