FYI, chrysler tech here. The "perform service" only means that you need a ccv filter. You don't need the egr cleaning until 120k miles, and even then, they are usually perfectly fine and don't benefit from the service.

My EGR valve looks brand new. Only has 11 miles on it. When you keep emissions parts on a shelf, they last MUCH longer….

Look in your owners manual and you'll find the only thing that needed to be changed was the CCV filter. Ram did away with the requirement to clean the EGR filter when they started using DEF, 2013 as I recall, and the "67,500" service actually jumps up to an even higher interval with the 5th Gens I believe. The actual service manuals have the correct data but the dealers always seem to go with the requirement on the older configurations.

Nice video. Not to pour salt on the wound, but Rock Auto sells that crankcase breather for about $60 and those gaskets for line $6 each...next time. Either way you're helping to empower folks to save a bunch of $ with some easy to do DIY maintenance. Thanks! PS: Nice to see Roxy! She's been missing for awhile!

Newer has never been better. I was told by my Grandfather to buy used but cared for as opposed to spending big bucks for new when I was 12 years old. I am 75 now and practiced what he preached except for a new Pontiac GrandPrix in 1997, which was a lemon, and suffered a $6500.00 cash loss.

I sold my 2019 diesel over 2 years ago, which was $760 a month, and bought a 2003 Duramax for 17k. Zero problems since I bought it 124k miles no Def saved me 8k a year in payments alone. The truck has already paid for itself in payment savings.

Good job Randy. You saved a lot of money This will help a lot of people 😊

I paid UP for a 2002 F350 last year when prices were still high. My truck has a flatbed and had 149K on it when I bought it. I drove it from Springfield, MO back to Northern New England. I wound up taking her to a local diesel shop and I paid about another 3K getting her sorted out. My truck is a pre emissions dream and I have ZERO regrets. Sometimes you get what you pay for! ✊🏿

You might also want to check on the bolt that holds the heater grid in the intake manifold. They are known for coming loose and destroying the engine.

Some notes, The CCV will continue trigger perform service if not replaced. it checks pressure, also the EGR valve is not designed to be cleaned on all 6.7 Cummins after DEF system implementation.

Manufacturers and dealers operate in such a way that they try to make it impossible for you to do any maintenance on your vehicle without a headache for you the owner not to mention the rate they charge. Thanks for your videos.

Thanks again Randy. These videos are great for us, the consumer, to inform us on the hidden costs of owning these new vehicles

The crazy part about my 2021 Ram 3500 HO Mega Cab is the engine bay looks like the day I picked it up. It takes some time to keep things clean but damn this truck engine/bay looks dirty as hell. Glad to see you’re doing all your own maintenance. I do all mine except the transmission service. I do oil, oil filter, fuel filters, cabin filter, and these types of services myself. No need to spend that kind of money if you can do them yourself. Just keep a record of everything you do and mileage for any warranty stuff if applicable. Thanks for the video.

Legit got the same message a month ago around the same mileage as you too. Changed the ccv filter and cleared the service message the same way. Now that i now about the ccv cleaning I’ll take care of that too. $2k for those two services is insane. Thanks for the video you explained everything perfectly

Very nice hourly rate for the job. I'd purchase an older vehicle with lower mileage and do as you said, replace the engine when needed. You've helped a lot of Cummings owners understand what needs to be done when the time comes or what is ahead of them as they approach that mileage. Informative video as always. Thank you.

Great job Randy,I’m going to show the video to my brother as his 2500 Ram diesel has about 50,000 miles.

Great video! You showed that this is a straight forward procedure using basic tools. No Witchcraft or Magic involved. Great job. I would let the new Ram go and get that pre emissions one. Way cheaper and less B.S. to deal with.

Welcome to owning a heavy duty diesel truck! I bought my CCV filter at Autozone. Works great and has a lifetime warranty for $140.00. I’ve already changed it twice for free. I hotshot so I rack up the miles quick. Also I’ve reused my egr gaskets with no issues. Don’t spend money you don’t need to spend.

I would never allow my diesel to go over 5k before giving it an oil change. I don't care what the computer says. Your asking for problems and that's how some tucks get bad reviews. People abuse them until they break then say there truck is a pile of crap. Take care of your trucks people, oil is cheap your engine and transmission are not. Thanks for the content.

I'd buy a Cummins any day, over the other 2 V8 Diesels? After working on a P.O.S. 6.0 Power-Choke, that was done at 150K, the Cummin's is much easier to access main components, and more reliable? A V8 configuration is not as balanced as a straight in-line 6 cylinder? I still think the old 7.3L Power-Stroke is the best diesel Ford ever had?

Great video. It really makes one stop and think about how much is not being said at these dealerships when selling used cars. I've heard some stories that have blown me away just so a dealer can flip a vehicle. "Buyer beware"!

Bought my 2007.5 Ram 2500 from a Dodge dealer with 68K miles. Noticed the perform service message. Did some research learned of the 67.500 mile service. The dealer said I was SOL. So I did the service myself,cost about $200 in parts and 4 hours of my labor. Wasnt to bad of a job and everything is on top of the engine. On the earlier trucks its more involved sint the EGR cooler has to be cleaned too. Been 2 years and im at 82K miles now.

I just bought my Cummins in December of 2023, BUT ! i watched your video before i bought the truck and feel confident that i am competent enough as a novice diesel enthusiast to get the job done. It's Friday, May 24th. I'll be using your video as a guide. And follow up with you afterward.

My 2016 Ram 3500 is very expensive in maintenance. I do the fuel filters myself ($80) in parts. Oil changes I get done at Jiffy lube because it’s just a pain and messy. The dealer charged me about $1500 fir the EGR cleaning. My heater core went bad. That was $2800 including changing the AC evaporator because why not. The dash is already taken apart and it’s a $180 part. I go through tires every two years because the truck is so heavy, it just eats them up. I’ve tried Toyo, BFG and Michelin. I’m doing the egr myself next time thanks to this video.

I'm glad i watched this video. I just bought my first Cummins. I started watching the channel when you picked up the red 2nd gen at auction. I've also got one of those. I bought my truck with 58k on the clock and asked the dealership if they would perform the 60k service which they declined to do i wanted the truck and jumped on it. this service is due now thank you for this video i know it's a little older but it's definitely helping guys like me. Thanks Randy.

good one , from Joseph in Australia I drive a 1987 Toyota land cruiser hj75 diesel truck I do all my own work . i am 70yr s old and I saved so much money, I buy them for about 10,000 dollars and keep them going this one had it 30 years. parts getting hard to find so i picked up a donor car for parts.

Definitely worth cleaning the EGR valve. Look at how clean it is now. Hope you did the other services yourself saving thousands.

Leave the receipts in the book as proof the service was done for the next owner. Great job.

i think cummins doesnt include egr cleaning anymore on the newer trucks as a recommended service. they started in with the first 6.7s but some dealerships are probably looking to make more money and/or have not updated their service recommendations.

Hi Randy it’s so nice to see you working on the ram you need to flip it before you lose money on it you have the right idea buy a older car save money all the best from the UK

138K and I've never cleaned my ERG on my 2013. No one ever stated at my dealership that in needed to be done. Yes, I have my truck serviced by the dealership when I can't get to it. Good vid! Thanks for posting!

My truck is at 267000 and never had the EGR system touched. Haven’t had any issues so must be working ok. In fact my truck has never been to the dealer. Only issue has been turbo actuator, changed in my driveway. This has been the best truck I’ve ever owned. Also, buy all your filters right from the Cummins dealer. They are cheaper than Mopar.

I bought a 06 3500 Cummins new. Still love it. It has none of that crap under the hood 👍💪🏻🇺🇸

I was at my local dealership last week I was planning to do a coolant flush. I bought the coolant no big deal easy cheapy but I asked for a thermostat that almost made me pass out $480 freaking dollars just because it says Cummins in it. Wowww. I still have chills.

Just fyi and you may have already found this out but the Fleetguard CCV filter can be purchased on Amazon for $60 at the time of writing this. I was going to do the same thing with buying it from the dealer but decided to shop around and am thankful I did!

You can always fix it! I wonder what the next work truck will be! Great video as always keep it up randy!!!!

That's alot of dough brother just for a little bit of work. Garages today charge an arm and a leg just for a little bit of work. It's best to do the work yourself and to know how to do it. That's key.👍✌️👌

As a long time subscriber we all know the way you keep choping & changing your personal vehicles, that you don't hold on to any vehicle for long, it's just the way you roll. ☘️

Did it all on my 2013 and saved a ton. It drives like a dream.

Randy, you don't work on cars remember. Yea right. You are on the right track my friend! Good job!! Saving money is the key to success.

Diesels are NOT cheap! I’ve got a 2016 ecoDiesel….and early on, she was expensive as well. But the last few years, she’s been a good rig. Thanks for the education…. Also, the EPA requirements force dealers to follow the procedures. If they don’t it will effect their relationship with big brother!

Randy, you have beautiful cars for daily driving, you should buy that dually.

The maintenance schedule does NOT require the cleaning of the EGR and cooler. Instead of selling your truck it is good to do the maintenance yourself to save money. I’ve changed my leaking plastic Y coolant to aluminum, oil and fuel filter change, crankcase filter, and my turbo actuator myself. You still need to do the oil change on your differentials, transmission and filter, transfer case which the dealer did for me in an hour. They had a special for $1000 which still seemed high but didn’t want to mess with my Aisen transmission on my 2014 Ram 3500 4x4. I do still drive my 1996 Dodge 2500 as a daily driver with 389000 and California does NOT require smog testing pre 1997. I installed a 2013 seat which makes it very comfortable. I love the exhaust brake on my 4th gen for towing but try to drive my old faithful 12 valve which I still love that I bought new. I bought the Banks Ram intake and will try to do that myself and clean the EGR at that time. My friend lost his engine to the grid heater bolt failure at 120,000 miles. Beware! I did have to change the killer dowl pin on my 1996 12 valve so always something….

Dealerships are pretty much a scam. I worked for a Ford dealership and the markups were ridiculous. That said, if it were me, I'd sell the truck and buy something for cash just to get out from under the payments. Of course, the truck is super nice and if I could afford the payments, I'd probably keep it. Isn't it amazing how much they charge for something you can do in less than a days time?

Randy, Thanks for the heads up and the warning to never buy a new truck! I will keep my 2005 3rd gen Laramie.I bought it new and have only have to do very basic maintence on it so far. 154,000 miles on it so far and it run like the day I bought it new. Really hope You sell your truck and get an older one. You will save a lot of time and money. Wish you the best with whatever you decide to do my friend.👍

That dealership knew it needed those services and I wouldn’t doubt the guy traded it in cause they hit him up for it too. They didn’t do it because of costs and sold knowing it would throw that code and you’d have to bring it back in for those services. Happens all the time anymore. Back in the day the dealers would go through a used vehicle and do any service before selling it. Not anymore

You should keep a or that heavy duty truck for pulling cars around and have an older truck, like the silver 3500 dodge dually in a previous walk around video, that you can make videos with by fixing it all up. I personally enjoy older vehicles, pre 2020, 2000-2010 vehicles most are easy & kinda fun to wrench on.

I could not agree with you more. I bought the same truck with 72000 on it and out about 6000 miles on it and got the same massage. Dealer told me that it would cost me $2500 and I only had it for 2 months. Thank for the video

The CCV is $36 shipped from Amazon looks exactly like the one I pulled out, the EGR cleaning is simple unbolt clean and but back, just need new gaskets, all simple maintenance for the regular guy

Hey Randy, I just wanna let you know that I watched your video for today about you make meetings your truck. You did a awesome job. I can’t wait to see the next video that you got coming up most likely tomorrow. Have a good day. Talk to you later.

Oiy.. Genos Garage for the CCV filter. Filter and EGR gasket kit $183 or $115 for the filter. Replace every 30k miles or so. 440k miles and never have had to do my EGR. 2008 6.7.

Randy, I have yet to see a video of yours that I didn’t enjoy, and I watch all of them. Please keep doing what you’re doing my friend.

Welcome to my road. Bought a 2010 Dodge 2500 6.7 in 2011. I owned it for 3 years and it ran just about perfect UNTIL it got to 100k miles. Then the AC condenser leaked and that cost $2300 to repair. About 6 weeks later, the main ECU went caput. Another 2500 down the drain. After that one I got rid of it

Pick up trucks are expensive to maintain properly, but in my opinion the life can be decades upon decades long. Long term value.

Grate informative video Randy. I'm glad my 09 ram 3500 has none of that emissions crap on it no DEF or a $10,000 exhaust to deal with and with it being a 6 speed manual gets 20 mpg city

Good video Randy. The labor was likely higher because the dealer would have cleaned the egr cooler also. To clean it, you need to remove it. When I do this service in my shop, we disassemble the Egr valve completely, remove the Egr cooler and cooler valve, and soak them in purple power overnight. We also do the egr back pressure pipe and remove and clean the passage under the pressure sensor to the tube. That is the thin metal tube along the passenger side of the engine near/under the cooler. They like to plug up. 4K is a bit much, last one we did was 1300 out the door. And that even included the CCV filter too. They are great trucks, but if the emissions system’s maintenance isn’t done regularly or on time, they can plug up.

Got into heated debate with dealer about that egr service....it's not recommended until after 120k. The ccv yes at 60k intervals. Pre 2012 models yes egr cleaning every 60k

Great video and I'm sure it will help me somewhere down the road. I'm heading out tomorrow on an 800 mile road trip to buy a gently used 2008 Ram 3500 SLT 6.7 2 WD single rear wheel. I've been looking for a tow vehicle for our travel trailer for over a year now and this may finally be the best one. Dealership has been very helpful sending pics and videos. Said the last owner kept it in a garage and never towed with it.

I've never had a car payment. So, you know my answer to Randy's question at the end. A good older vehicle will always be much cheaper to own in the long run.

Get another TRX that was the best all around truck

Your video was very helpful and informative one of the best DYI’s I’ve seen yet.

I’ve got a manual 5 speed 2005 dodge ram 2500 5.7 gas. This truck is awesome!! The only serious thing I’ve ever had to do on this truck is new clutch and a fuel pump. I change the oil myself and the plugs. It does have a leak in the exhaust manifold however but I’m not concerned with it because it’s never gotten any worse.

Thanks again Randy. These videos are great for us, the consumer. 😃😃😃

Also was told of a $1700,00 bill to service CV filter and EGR at dealer. Came home ordered filter on Amazon $28.00. EGR cleaned with simple green in half an hour. Money in pocket - $ 1655.00.

Just to let you know. If you check your owner manual. You don't need to touch the egr valve for this service. You only need to swap out the ccv filter. The dealership was hostelling you services you don't need.

i just bought and installed a genuine fleetguard crankcase ventilation filter and installed it. it took 20 minutes altogether and the ebay cost for the ccv filter was 30.00 including tax and shipping. the gaskets at napa are about 10-15.00.

I just got took on what you're talking about .i went in for a check engine light . And they told me every little little issue they could find I just met the guy. He seemed to be a pretty good younger person With a fairly new Shop. I told 'em to do what he thought would be best for the truck .man the list went on and on 125 to take off a small grill 3 bolts 200 for a bg battery care witch is to small little pads under the clamps and yep the cv filter swap $646 fuel filters $ 376 $450 to hook up the ob2 scanner it's said shops do that to ppl .

My dad always taught me if the steering does not pull. Do not do a front end alignment. I'm surprised you paid them for an oil change. And a cabin filter? But honestly I don't know how complicated they've made. It become so awesome video. Thank you sir!

“Anytime you can save XXX it’s a good day” you could have done it all, I get it, some don’t want to fool with oil changes and fuel filters but for what the dealer charges I’ll take an afternoon and do it myself. One thing people neglect to think about is dragging to truck to the dealer and then dragging back to get it when it’s done. My time is money. “Service engine” is for the filter only, cleaning EGR valve is a dealer “gotcha” it doesn’t need to be done. I have a 2020 RAM 3500 with 90,000 miles and have done all service myself (including both differentials, transfer case and trans) and I don’t have $4000 invested, total. Don’t buy anything from the dealer, they gouge DIY people (gots to get paid) the exact same crank case filter you paid $350 for I got for $78 (when I find a deal I buy 2, so I’m ready for next service) Buy only genuine OEM replacement, it’s not much more if you find deals on internet. Find a deal? Buy 2 or 3 that way you are not desperate next time (can anyone say “supply chain issues”? See that big beautiful dealership with everyone running around on golf carts? Yeah, the service department is a big cash cow to help pay for it. Think the dealer will care for your baby better than others? Wrong! Lots of dealers pay tech by what they get done and not by the hour so is advantageous for the tech to fly through jobs. I’ve known techs that make well over $100k per year. They will actually treat your vehicle worse if you don’t play into their higher profit services (everything listed in this video) I took my truck in for an issue (warranty) and when they couldn’t sucker me into $1500 in basic maintenance they called me 4 days later and said “it’s ready” They did nothing, nothing.

Hi randy your extension for sockets is little wobbly . And I think that silver truck you showed in beginning of video looks good to replace the ram . And thanks for saving money for many people

Looks simple enough. Only have 13000 on my 2021. I did notice you were engaging the preheat when starting. If you push your start button twice, it will start with no preheat. I assume from your video you are not where I am (Alaska) although I do not engage preheat in summer. That under nut of the pre-heat cable connector is a huge killer of these motors. I plan on installing the Banks kit that will eliminate that bolt. It seems simple as most Banks stuff is designed DIY. Great video!

When we do an EGR service we also drain the cooling system, pull the EGR cooler, and soak it... There is a lot of crap in the EGR cooler. If that dealer is like our dealer, then that is why it costs so much for the service in labor anyhow.

CCV filters are due every 68,500 miles. Trucks are rock solid but as with every vehicle you must keep up with the maintenance

Cummins has stated that the ‘19 + EGR valve cannot be disassembled for cleaning. Only the CCV filter can be done for the 77.5 service

I have a 2005 with a 59 Cummins 300,000 miles runs beautiful

Randy I don't know if you looked it up or not but anyways the ccv filter is supposed to be replaced at right around the mileage you are at now and same with the egr valve cleaning the perform service message is supposed to come on right around 67,500 miles so this is normal maintenance I could be wrong but I did a quick google search and that's what came up but do understand why you were upset though about the cost.

Thanks for showing people how to do this procedure. A little more research would let you know that that perform device message will pop up about every 60k mile so that the crankcase ventilation filter will get changed. The dealer will rob you blind. I bought my 2020 Ram 3500 with 40k miles on it in April of 2022. I currently have just over 207,000 miles on it. I’ve changed that filter every time the message comes on. If you buy your own filters and do your own service, you will not spend near what the stealership will charge you. I’d say keep it. It will pay for itself if you have it as a work truck.

People always trade their vehicles in, just in time for major tune-ups, services, needing new tires, etc. Just so they don't have to pay the outrageous service bills, when service is due by mileage usually? Never really thought about the services due, being the reason the vehicle get the boot?

Last time I was at the stealership they took 6 hours to replace my drag link and do an alignment. Dirty little secret: they don’t replace the EGR. The stealership just cleans it and reinstalls.

Even (some) fleets are agreeing with the assessment that modern diesel light duty trucks (technical definition includes most F450 and under) are more costly in the the total cost of ownership category. Our local utility did a 24 month head to head on service trucks and even EXCLUDING downtime for unexpected repairs. The costs per 100 K miles was 3% less for the identical gas equivalents. They had particularly scathing opinion in the back-up documentation from the fleet logistics manager regarding the diesel-burners unexpected down time % but they left it out of the official report in case it was brand/generation/model specific.

Great DIY video Randy. Saved yourself a lot of money. If i was you I’d buy a diesel with cash. Those payments are crazy! 😮

And well-spoken and concise KZfaq video as I have learned a lot. I have been trying to do my homework for quite some time. Looking at the Dodge ram diesel trucks and I am looking to buy a used one but I wanted to learn as much as possible as I have never owned a diesel but wanted one because I am getting ready to also buy a camp trailer as my wife and I are both retired and want to do a lot of camping and traveling. Again thank you so much. Very good and well done video !

Excellent intelligent information! I have 2004.5 H.O 3 gen Dodge Cummins. Smog exempt and the crank case filter only $50. I change mine every 50,000 miles. Thank for sharing.

Good to see everything went well and smooth

The emissions crap on these new Diesels really kills the whole point of getting a Diesel. I still drive my 1991 F250 with the 7.3 IDI and have no plans to get rid of it. I don't drive it a lot but when I need a truck, it's there and always ready for work.

I have a 21 5500 I do everything!!! In fact I learned for that reason!! CCV , egr cleaning ,differential, transfer case( super easy) ,I upgraded my water pump ,I do all my oil and filters,brakes ,etc ,man i can't tell you how much I have saved

The same thing is going on with my Ram 2500. Gave us a great deal on the used truck but not doing research on diesels, now I got major maintenance to perform on it I’ve only had it for 6 months as well. I should have kept my 03 power stroke that I traded for the newer truck 😩

Randy better buying older easy to work on won't loose value and better built and will last longer

Even if you bought an older Ram cash, what will you get for a trade in plus how much in negative equity for the 2021 Ram? That’s what I would consider first.

Thanks great video, I looked through the owner's manual under "Service Required" and only the CCV filter needs to be replaced and no mention of a EGR service.

Always an explanation why the previous owner got rid of it too. Never forget that.

Egr cleaning is a plus for sure. Amazon has the breather CCV filter for 44 bucks. Works

Not sure, but my diesel mechanic said the EGR cleaning service is unnecessary for the newer trucks. I have a 2017 Ram with 150,000 miles on it and it runs strong. Mostly highway driving and a lot of towing. Never cleaned the EGR cooler or valve. The CCV filter is super easy and so is the EGR valve. But there is no required maintenance for cleaning EGR valve that I’m aware of. The oil change and fuel filter change costs me $240. The dealer is rippin ya for sure. If you aren’t towing a lot then the Diesel probably isn’t worth it. I haven’t deleted mine but I want to.

That EGR valve is good Randy. I have seen worse.

My 2018 2500 Cummins powered limited is in the shop having the nav replaced. The transmission failed at 50,xxx miles. I took it in for the emissions recall and now it won't pass smog. Probably going to trade back to a Toyota soon, or just start driving my 422,000 mile 1986 Forunner. It's much more dependable.

You are the master Randy, very informative and interesting video. Love Roxy!

But Randy you don’t ever work on anything!!!! Lol. Great job as always.

Saw another video suggesting that at that mileage only the crankcase filter need to be done .no egr service

I would have gotten the alignment at the dealership but did the rest in my shop.

I am Ram diesel tech for 47 years. If you work the engine hard you will not need to clean the Egr valve. The heat will clean th egr system. If you run short trips the Egr system will fill with carbon. The Egr valve, Egr cooler and the Egr bypass valve must be cleand