BMW M4 vs Audi RS5: epic track battle

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BMW M4 vs Audi RS5: epic track battle

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We test the BMW M4 against the benchmark setting fast coupe, the Audi RS5.
BMW M4 review: bit.ly/1lb81cD
Audi RS5 review: bit.ly/1nD11rN
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The arrival of a new BMW M car is always big news for performance car fans, and the new M4 is no exception.
Costing almost £60,000, the replacement for the legendary old BMW M3, the M4 has moved away from the V8 power plant in the old car, and is now powered by a 425bhp twin-turbocharged straight-six engine.
Meanwhile, the similarly prices Audi RS5 is propelled by a 4.0-litre V8, which produces 430bhp. It's also mated to the Audi quattro four-wheel drive system. Like the BMW, it also features a dual-clutch gearbox, the Audi S tronic system.
There's no denying the Audi lacks the fun factor of the BMW - the quattro four-wheel-drive system prevents the lurid powerslides than you can really go for in the M4. You can also feel the weight of the engine over the front axle in the RS5, but it certainly doesn't feel slow at all.
Overall then, the RS5 feels very punchy, and the gearshift is also really nice - the same can be said for its V8 soundtrack. It's not a track machine though, and the car from Neckarsulm is more of a very stable and very rapid cruiser.
Meanwhile, the BMW M4 feels very raw and very serious, especially when all the settings are put at their sportiest via the M1 switch on the steering wheel. These also turn the traction control and stability control off.
With no electronic aids, the M4 is always trying to get its tail out. However, the body control is amazing, but there is a feeling that it's all a bit artificial. The same can be said for the engine note, which has been enhanced.
The M4 is a proper M car though, and something BMW can be truly proud of. It set a lap time of 1m09.9s, compared to the 1m12.2s set by the Audi - that's 2.3s quicker.

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@YouArentSlick 9 жыл бұрын

It's funny cause you will never see an actual owner of one of these cars arguing like the people in the comments

@Vvlnc 9 жыл бұрын

Lol forreal

@Vvlnc 8 жыл бұрын

+lap le (lapleisanub) you mean a Honda lol!!

@meimphisto 7 жыл бұрын

Very true...I used to own a BMW,now I'm owner of a AUDI.I love both brands,i have friends with BMW and we never argue which is better.The truth is most people in the comments doesn't even have a car/are kids/are just blind fanboys.

@MTBryanH 6 жыл бұрын

Old thread but I agree. I have an RS5, but I absolutely love the M4. The ONLY reason I got the RS5 is because I felt it was a better overall car in sun, rain, snow, dirt, leaves, mud, cold, etc. My decision wasn't based on track performance at all. I love both but am happy with my choice.

@Fastmetro 6 жыл бұрын

I am and I do, I own an M4 cp lci manual. It's an amazingly brutal car, I love it.

@jaikee9477 8 жыл бұрын

The RS5 is the safer car to go fast on the autobahn. It can cope with snow, rain and mud. The M4 is sexy and more fun to drive around corners and on race tracks. These are two completely different approaches/philosophies.

@nastyscorp 8 жыл бұрын

yeah, for that reason I will have rs5

@ZeroPieHD 8 жыл бұрын

The M4 will cope with snow, rain and mud. It is all about who's behind the wheel. AWD is for old and boring people.

@wypersanarchies9318 8 жыл бұрын

+ZeroPie HD i agree with you! On RWD you feel the power, And you just overtake all the AWD's Fappers

@TopBoy-ih1ex 8 жыл бұрын

Good critical analysis. I give you 3 point lol.

@AprilVic 7 жыл бұрын

Both cars are nice to have but m4 is just faster and more fun, so I will take the RS5... ...because m4's are everywhere.

@owismeal92 8 жыл бұрын

You're all getting impressed by the M4 but i'm getting impressed by the driver who pushes an M4 as hard as it can on tight corners with all that torque and traction control off without loosing the rear end so much.

@Chillerliger 4 жыл бұрын

Pagana agree. My tuned 520BHP F80 M3 sometimes lose its rear wheel traction , when full throating even more than 100Mile/h on the straight road

@adrianmurray2884 2 жыл бұрын

99.9 percent of the people commenting here will get a miles better track time in the rs5 regardless which car they like .... or end out in the toolies trying to get a good time in the m4

@NikoBell12 10 жыл бұрын

Since I'm the type of person who rarely goes to the track anyway, the RS5 would be the perfect car for me. It's so good around town and it's gorgeous. The M4 looks great, it really does, but I've always had a thing for the Audi 5's, especially the RS5.

@redlinethin 10 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly the point thousands here are missing... personally I have never seen any one going to the shops drifting! Hence its luxury 4 AWD GT car for me too.

@NikoBell12 10 жыл бұрын

Dmitri Felbinger Yup!

@M5v8twinturbo 10 жыл бұрын

Dmitri Felbinger If you dont care about ultimate performance why even buy a car in this class? If you just care about vanity and "around town" driving just get an S5 and save 30K lol. Regardless the M4 blends top track performance with real world practicality unlike any other car in this class.

@MrColincas 10 жыл бұрын

M5v8twinturbo Very well said sir!

@NikoBell12 10 жыл бұрын

M5v8twinturbo Nobody here gives a flying fuck about your dumbass opinions, please leave this comment section.

@STKPYL 2 жыл бұрын

I recently picked up a 2013 RS5. Perfect combination of sporty and luxurious. You don’t recognize it as a “sports car” at first. But when you hit the gas, hear that naturally aspirated V8 open up and the spoiler pop up, you see the beast lurking underneath that finely tailored suit.

@rusmokin 10 ай бұрын

I just got a 2013 RS5 a little over a month ago and I couldn't agree more. It may not be the fastest, but it looks and sounds fantastic.

@Shabec2982 9 жыл бұрын

Both cars are great but.... What's the camera car? Because from the looks of things it runs with both! Ha.

@Autoexpress 9 жыл бұрын

Shabec2982 We just get Mat Watson to run around the track with the camera-person on his back.

@anirudhkitt 9 жыл бұрын

+Auto Express On a completey unrelated note, which wristwatch is Owen wearing in the review. Will appreciate a response. :)

@ArtVandelayOfficial 8 жыл бұрын

must be GTR

@chicken4967 8 жыл бұрын

+Art Vandelay OH GOD NOT AGAIN

@keepingitdownwiththepashas 8 жыл бұрын

+Auto Express guys come on give the camera car some credit and let us know what is it?

@neverbesosure 9 жыл бұрын

both of these cars are monsters

@DoctaM3 10 жыл бұрын

Simply an astonishing car... the M4 is a sick BEAST... I love it.

@CarsUncovered 10 жыл бұрын

I hope we meet it then :)

@ahmadkhaled419 10 жыл бұрын

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@KiwiGraggle 10 жыл бұрын

It is likely to rust though, like an Alfa Romeo of yesteryear.

@user-pb9pd6gt6o 6 жыл бұрын

DoctaM3 そ

@paulalangadan8375 4 жыл бұрын

the rs5 is gorgeous

@hansblitz7770 9 жыл бұрын

"powerslides" Lets see how interesting they are in the real world, when it is raining, icy, etc and there are cars coming the other way.

@wowmannen82 9 жыл бұрын

Who turns off traction control on ice/rain/snow and who power slides in traffic? Feels kinda stupid.

@hansblitz7770 9 жыл бұрын

Pontus Andersson Its RWD only for the BMW.

@user-pj4fr6ch7j 9 жыл бұрын

Hans Blitz Yeah but who turns off the esp? you know what's that?

@hansblitz7770 9 жыл бұрын

***** Do I know what that is you mean? Yes, stability control. It won't stop someone from wrecking if there are other cars on the road and they're power-sliding. That is only for the track, and a 1 driver track at that.

@user-pj4fr6ch7j 9 жыл бұрын

Hans Blitz Trust me, those stabili controls used in bmw, mercedes etc. does not allow you to powerslide at all. They immediatly cut the throlle if the car starts slipping and engage brakes if needed.

@crystalvillarreal8579 4 жыл бұрын

Remember that time BMW made the M3 for six years straight without ever acknowledging that it would likely have catastrophic engine failure due to worn rod bearings? That was awesome.

@AndiS21-u6r Жыл бұрын

You forgot other spicy engine parts that go kaboom: - Exhaust Cam Vanos Sprocket tabs - Exhaust Cam Sprocket Bolts - Chain tensioners breaking - Headgasket failure Then you have infamous rear carrier panel that breaks away from the chassis, rear diff clunk from LSD... -

@beastofackworth Жыл бұрын

Remember when Audi sold an RS4 with soft rims that deformed over small bumps? I could find problems with every car manufacturer.

@AndiS21-u6r Жыл бұрын

@@beastofackworth Wheels are an easy problem to solve. Critical parts of a chassis like the rear subframe carrier plate or critical engine parts are another thing. They could've done a better job.

@drywater3559 Жыл бұрын

@@beastofackworth 2013-2015 RS5 has the R8 engine V10 with 2 less cylinders. there are same parts numbers all over the block. so the block was made to do crazy V10 stuff while only doing V8 work in the RS5. it became bulletproof with essentially over engineered internals. most other manufacturers need at least 6L of displacement to make 450whp, while Audi does it with only 4.2L. plus this comparison is RWD versus AWD so not exactly apples to apples.

@gw7624 9 ай бұрын

@@drywater3559 BMW had been making naturally-aspirated M cars with over 100bhp/litre since the 90s. It's nothing new. And Audi V8s are far from bullet-proof; they're known for timing chain issues for a start.

@QASSYNO1 5 жыл бұрын

I've owned both I sold my rs5 to get the m4 comp both cars are great in there own way I prefer the bmw in the end it just comes down to preference but both cars are great

@vitico123ful 7 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, Im an Audi fanboy and would take the rs5 over anything but that bimmer is beautiful, looks and sounds fun. so credit where credits due.

@alalal123421 2 жыл бұрын

noo the rs5 is the most beautiful car ive ever seen. id even take it over an r8 literally perfectly styled gorgeous. they do complement each other well though would love both the rs5 and m4 haha

@saucysimpson259 8 жыл бұрын

i like both cars but personally i'd buy the M4

@dodgehemi5045 7 жыл бұрын

c63s coupe

@eastoakland-S65feen 4 жыл бұрын

Im trying to pick between e92 m3 comp pack or b8.5 rs5.. Both awsome n/a high reving v8s..

@saucysimpson259 4 жыл бұрын

EastOaklandS65Feen For me I’d go for the RS5 now simply for the fact that the M3’s are having lots of bearing issues as they get older. The engines are ticking time bombs

@alalal123421 2 жыл бұрын

i like both but personally i will buy the rs5

@skylinegtr7931 9 жыл бұрын

THE RS 5 IS MOORE STABILITY THAN M4,I SEE M4 ON THE TRACK ONLY DRIFFTING AND I THINK THE M4 IS DANGEROUS FOR DRIVING FAST ON THE STREET,RS 5 IS BETTER

@tommyfletcher5842 4 жыл бұрын

I was close to buying the RS5 - Audi makes awesome machinery. However, the ability to extract more fun out of it via tuning, really kept me from the final purchase. Once I was in the M4 I felt at home - especially since I traded an e60 M5 for it. Now with an MHD flash tune there's no comparison.

@tomo0086 8 жыл бұрын

If this Audi is "trash" like so many of you in the comments are saying, you're not a car enthusiast, but rather a BMW enthusiast.

@bradygarber8757 8 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@SnorkZiE 8 жыл бұрын

Same goes for Audi fans trashtalking BMW.

@wypersanarchies9318 8 жыл бұрын

just dont like how audi goes, awd is nothing

@EyupFella 6 жыл бұрын

AWD is nothing quote of the year

@MalamIbnMalam 6 жыл бұрын

There will always be that BMW and Audi rivalry.

@michaelrawlins419 10 жыл бұрын

Even though I'm a BMW fan, but the Audi sounds better

@pikachupowers 10 жыл бұрын

you dont need to be an audi fan to notice that

@michaelrawlins419 10 жыл бұрын

That's the point captain obvious analanalyst

@RaeMachiavelli 10 жыл бұрын

There's a little company named Akrapovic that will put your opinion back in the right place :)

@scientificenigma 10 жыл бұрын

You know that's the one thing I can't get over is the sound but give it 6 months or whatever and some aftermarket exhuast will make it sound great I mean lol at some f10 m5 with like catless exhuast and they sound ridiculous

@MartIn-bn7yy 10 жыл бұрын

lol @ people arguing what sounds better. Its subjective.

@usmanw01 10 жыл бұрын

Mildenhall's videos are always enjoyable. The driving seems intense and yet the corner by corner commentary seems precise and effortless. Very nicely done!

@CroAuslander 10 жыл бұрын

I think that the new BMW line is a big leap forward in looks! The new Bimmers are so beautiful!

@alalal123421 2 жыл бұрын

but not as much as that rs5 😍

@JeremyLoveTech123 10 жыл бұрын

dat v8 note doe. sounds even more monster with capristo system.

@danielmaia3559 10 жыл бұрын

Did you notice how the sound of the M4 is almost identical inside the car to a real V8 while outside is clear a turbo car?

@JeremyLoveTech123 10 жыл бұрын

i think BMW uses a technique where there pump fake noises to the in car speaker make it sounds nice and sounded different at the outside. sorry for my poor english though :/

@MrColincas 10 жыл бұрын

JeremyLoveTech123 Yeah they do. I don't know why, but they did it in all the new "M" cars. I'm very sad about it, but bottom line is that the Performance is what matters and what you are paying for. And in this case is clearly worth every penny.

@Xboxlove1 9 жыл бұрын

people who own either are happy with either, people who don't argue which one is better on youtube.

@fanboy2shoes133 10 жыл бұрын

The audi RS5 is 6 years old. 2secs is a fair loss for the RS5 because it's older. But the RS5 is better looking and sounds brutal and who knows what's the knew RS5 is going to be like. BMW fell SCARED!!!!, AUDI is taking this one. #audifanboy

@MattGoesSkiing 10 жыл бұрын

Taking this one? It clearly just lost fanboy.

@fanboy2shoes133 10 жыл бұрын

Not a fanboy. Do you even know what a fanboy is

@MattGoesSkiing 10 жыл бұрын

Your name has fanboy in it and you also put #audifanboy. Look I know it's hard to not be fucking stupid, but it's okay. You're a fanboy, that explains it all.

@davidochin8901 10 жыл бұрын

RS5 came out in 2010...its 4 years old. Plus that didnt stop people from comparing the 2010 RS5 with the 2007 E92 M3 when the RS5 came out....how is this different? Also the RS5 barely matched the old M3 when it came out..Audi didn't raise the bar, despite having 3 extra years to develop. The M4 upped the bar big time its a lot faster, more efficient, while only having 11 more hp than the last version, and still less than the Audi.

@fanboy2shoes133 10 жыл бұрын

I can clearly see that you lack in vocabulary, I own a RS7 and I like the car that's why it's my profile. So don't try to keep you like a #### because my in eyes you just another attention seeker. Get a life.

@tulaconalas 8 жыл бұрын

on the track M4 all the way, on real life driving, RS5, no doubt, its just a more complete car.

@dubbeking 8 жыл бұрын

nah

@tulaconalas 8 жыл бұрын

+NightBot Ban yah

@elipalacios8217 8 жыл бұрын

nah

@bstrac77 8 жыл бұрын

+Eli Palacios yah

@HURRICANEM5 8 жыл бұрын

+Eli Palacios YEAH !

@powerfultoa7 8 жыл бұрын

Love how he can describe what the car is behaving like under a corner, he's pretty good

@Caramellino11 9 жыл бұрын

In the "normal" World, at the "normal" Road, in the "normal" traffic, who is going always sideways? Who is burning his Wheels every Day? Who buys every Week two Sets of Tires? ..... Nobody!

@mattpck 9 жыл бұрын

Yeah but in a 'normal' world with 'normal' traffic who would buy a M or a RS??

@Caramellino11 9 жыл бұрын

Maybe People witch are looking for something "different". Drivers who want's to drive the little "extra". ....

@tomp2776 9 жыл бұрын

Peter Pan i do

@abc162 9 жыл бұрын

Tom P I did

@MTBryan01 6 жыл бұрын

That's why I got an RS5 over the M4. Love them both but all wheel drive in the real world with 450 hp is a AWESOME. And it's a fine daily driver for me.

@Kaipeternicolas 10 жыл бұрын

Sound clearly goes to the RS5. Listen to that engine!

@M5v8twinturbo 10 жыл бұрын

Too bad it wasn't a sound contest it was a track match to see which PERFORMANCE car PERFORMED the BEST.

@Kaipeternicolas 10 жыл бұрын

Some of you bimmer boys got to relax. I am so disappointed that you guys settle for whatever BMW builds you. Of course performance wise BMW is the best. What did you expect? Especially the RS5 is based on a chassis from 2007! However, the sound of the new M3/M4 is pissing me off because I have owned M cars most of my life for their performance AND sound because both combined equal fun.

@armando_alves 10 жыл бұрын

Kaipeternicolas True. The M3 E92 sounded so much better! It is in fact the best M3 ever IMO. I never really liked the the sound of these BMW straight 6's....

@armando_alves 10 жыл бұрын

Kaipeternicolas True. The M3 E92 sounded so much better! It is in fact the best M3 ever IMO. I never really liked the the sound of these BMW straight 6's....

@Kaipeternicolas 10 жыл бұрын

Colin Cas Wow somebody feels attacked. You smartass are missing the point. Of course the 08 beat the RS5 too, no question. Why would you think I ever doubted that? You are just another youtube kid how it seems like... just trying to attack other people instead of having a job, working, making some money and actually buying these kind of cars. Have you ever owned an M car? How many M cars have you actually driven? Btw, if you quote someone, you write exactly as they said, and don't change "you" to "we".

@BudleyBailey 10 жыл бұрын

even if the ausi was faster id still take the m4 for the looks

@BudleyBailey 10 жыл бұрын

audi*

@bmwpowercn 10 жыл бұрын

Have you watched te video? The m4 is faster dude.

@BudleyBailey 10 жыл бұрын

i know im saying even if it was slower i would still rather have the m4 just for the looks

@alalal123421 2 жыл бұрын

other way around the rs5 is gorgeous

@alalal123421 2 жыл бұрын

@@BudleyBailey literally the other way around ill get an rs5 and modify it to perform a bit better for track use

@drunkshooter4156 8 жыл бұрын

Actually this is like comparing a rolls royce to an s-class....different levels of luxury, the rs5 was not created to be thrown like a maniac around a track. What I can say is for the road Audi RS models are better than M's but on the track there is no doubt most of RS cars are slower than M's...So my advice for anyone who wants a car for the track and daily driving I think Audi RS cars are a good option and for those who have the money to have two cars than go for an RS for daily driving and an M for track.

@jamsbong 10 жыл бұрын

The main bit that the RS5 loses out in this comparison is the torque, Audi is always going to be heavier because of their focus on quality and quattro drivetrain. But I think they will make it up with more torque. Just remember, Audi has yet to show their hands since the A4 platform has not been updated since 2009.

@gw7624 10 жыл бұрын

Torque has nothing to do with it.

@jsmith5190 10 жыл бұрын

Quality? lol VW parts isn't quality

@jamsbong 10 жыл бұрын

J Smith and BMW is?

@antesco3224 10 жыл бұрын

Observing further, the front heaviness of the Audi, higher curb weight, and longer stopping distances are what slowed it down, to produce a 2 second slower lap. All these factors contributed. The M4 is lighter, had ceramic brakes, more torque and better able to transition in the twisties.

@pauloptionalsiegfried8618 10 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Audi showed their hand with the understeering B8 RS4 released in 2012

@jackthorpe56 8 жыл бұрын

Rs5 needs updating, still looks good, but same shape for years! M4 looks sexy as fuck! I would love both, but give me the m4 over the Audi

@danielsp9834 8 жыл бұрын

I share the exact same opinion;-)

@powerfultoa7 8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Thorpe I'm afraid that look will still go on for sometime :/

@SugarBlood15 8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Thorpe I like the look of the rs5 more.M4 is sexy as fuck,but audi is kinda menacing.

@owneddiagonal 8 жыл бұрын

+Jack Thorpe I do like m4 design. Its more agressive. But audi is somehow agressive, yet elegant and yet also calm. Its a simple but mysterious design that my eye cannot process correctly. Interior wise audi got a nice look, but outdated components (electrics) Wish they finally give it more updated hardware and some nice extras

@ejicon 9 жыл бұрын

The RS 5 looked like a heavy sloppy mess on this track compared to the M4. I was really surprised to see the time differences being roughly under 3 seconds apart from each other.

@r129r16pfl 8 ай бұрын

3 sec on such a short track is eternity

@Bobg425 9 жыл бұрын

Try taking the family out on a rainy day in the bMW. If you love them,dont. The Audi feels safe in pouring rain and damp roundabouts the BMW scares the crap out of you same as the C63

@supaahflyy 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I love about my M4 😂 It feels like a monster that you gotta respect otherwise you're dead. Objectively that's a bad thing but emotionally it's great

@user-bh6zt1it2l 4 жыл бұрын

Why would you be driving fast with ur family in the car when it’s raining?

@poiint7798 4 жыл бұрын

@Suryateja GT so you prefer to buy an audi because u can drive fast in the rain? Congratz for you. Everyone is free to like everything they want, but trashtalking about bmw's in the rain meh, that's sad

@TheMuteemChannel 10 жыл бұрын

i'm normally a bmw fan but recently they have moved too far away from their essence (active tourer, front wheel drive, small turbo engines and other shit)…and also they've run out of new design ideas (except for i8)…this one goes to audi

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

I think you've never heard about the M235i

@TheMuteemChannel 10 жыл бұрын

Kaisuke971 it's a glimmer of hope, but like i said, it's a dull, unimaginative design and why can't i just get a 225i straight six old school manual?

@M5v8twinturbo 10 жыл бұрын

Wait so BMW makes one FWD car, so you prefer Audi....a company in which over 50% of their cars sold are FWD? LOL.. that makes a lot of sense. Oh yeah audi uses small turbo, and have NO new design ideas.

@TheMuteemChannel 10 жыл бұрын

i was only saying i'd take the rs5 over the m4…maybee it came across in the wrong way. audi is shit overall, volkswagen for rich people^^ btw, next one series will be front-wd and three cylinder powered. i'd rather drive a nice smooth electric car than a three cylinder, wtf?

@MrColincas 10 жыл бұрын

Charly Harper from Germany # CYLINDERS + TURBO can reallyyyy surprise you my friend. And they only do this to compete with MERCEDES cla 450 amg. ALthough i am really not sure they will make a car with fwd.

@davidochin8901 10 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is the RS5 laps closer to the BMW M235i autoexpress tested than the M4!! The RS5 is only 1.3 seconds faster then the BMW M235i, and the M4 is 2.3 faster than the RS5..

@adrianmurray2884 2 жыл бұрын

Just like Niki Lauda said...2.3 seconds faster ! Lol

@tracewaybos 6 ай бұрын

Ceramic brakes on the M4 is what made it so much faster around the track. If Tires and brakes were equated, I'd bet these two are REALLY close around a circuit.

@titanbrando 9 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many try's it took took get the M to win. Look how hard he's fighting that car to get it around the track! He's barely pushing the Audi and only beats it by 2 seconds? You could tell by the tone of the film this guys a BMW fan.

@jsmith5190 9 жыл бұрын

And we can all tell you're a crybaby. Rule 1 in the Audi Fanboy Manual Go play with your 2001 civic vtec booommmmm

@Blu12929 9 жыл бұрын

Everyone goes on about saying Audi is more comfortable on the roads etc. If you want a car that is comfortable on the roads and relaxing, why would you buy one with a 4 litre V8?

@DougMacRay 8 жыл бұрын

Good Sir, you can drive. Thank you for putting out a review that accurately reflects what the manufacturers of these two wonderful cars intended them to be.

@karabelomonoto2325 9 жыл бұрын

The Audi looks safer and more stable around the lapse, yes it's 2.3 seconds slower but it is way safer than the M4. On the open road, a car that's going to keep you alive for 2.3 seconds longer is worth buying.

@rousseau327 10 жыл бұрын

The RS5 is the current class benchmark? What a joke.

@bwilliam4023 10 жыл бұрын

yeah, c63 should be in my option

@ToyotatechDK 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the RS5 is a league above

@kezboy1 10 жыл бұрын

The most disappointing thing about the M4 IMO is the carbon brakes are an option ....and for $10k more???? and on an M CAR? Who the hell decided that? that's FKN evil!!

@s7efan90 10 жыл бұрын

you don`t get ceramic brakes on the RS5 or AMG too and BMW has a little low price than the competitors i think it is priced well for what it is... It has a lot of improvements compared to E92 and has the same price ;) I just want an M4 Gran Coupe :D or an M3 :) but the 4 Gran coupe looks a little better :D

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

Well, carbon ceramic brakes are very expensive. I think it's pretty abvious that a supercar technology doesn't cost you 2K, and it is not stock because it would raise the price. And the stock brakes are actually very good !

@DICsquared 10 жыл бұрын

non carbon brakes brake as good, its the option for the track days fans...

@M5v8twinturbo 10 жыл бұрын

Psst. carbon brakes are an expense option on the RS5 as well...in fact they do not come standard on any car under 200K.

@kezboy1 10 жыл бұрын

M5v8twinturbo they do on the Camaro z28...But I understand, i get it; then you don't get luxuries like BMW, blah blah blah. I got the point everyone. lol thanks for the inputs! I just thought $10k was a little steep, that's just me.

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@nomayor1 10 жыл бұрын

The M4's biggest advantage is that it is (more or less) 300 kilos lighter. The presenter only mentioned that the roof is carbon fibre. The car however has other parts made of that material, as structural beams of the roof, the transmission prop shaft, and others. The rear glass is thinner than normal, the boot lid is made from special thermo-plastic, the suspension all-round is made from special aluminium. And so you end up with a 2-wheel drive car being (almost) *three seconds* faster than a 4-wheel drive car, exactly because you have far less mass and therefore far smaller centrifugal forces to battle around bends.

@Amidat 10 жыл бұрын

yup... pretty simple and correct explanation

@ithsburtondwight 10 жыл бұрын

M4 all day.

@PlazmaBooy 10 жыл бұрын

But people who actually buy one of these, aren't gonna bother with videos like this, they don't look at numbers or equipment and such, they already have a preferred choice. Like me, I'd go for an Audi any day, no questions asked.

@saejoon 9 жыл бұрын

i really see no point arguing which car make is better , audi, bmw and benz since in all honesty they are all really all nice to drive. All the good things about German engineering can not all be defined by a single brand. each of these german automakers have their niche that suits peoples' different needs. there are some things Audi's does better than BMW and vice versa, For example Audi's steering is just to awkward for some, and the Benz reputation for comfort, especially in the s-class is undeniably the best (of course this is up for debate) but this is just how some people feel. what im trying to say is that these 3 automakers are the bench markers for the auto industry and when you claim one of the german brand is far superior than the rest of the german automakers , your argument is not really valid

@CynicalBastard511 6 жыл бұрын

For those saying that the RS5 is the better car because M4 would be a handful during winter time... Have you guys ever heard about winter tires?

@josephboot1 8 жыл бұрын

I don't think a single lap is enough to establish which is faster. Brake a second earlier or get on the throttle a second later or any other driver error will effect a lap time, you would need 3 or 4 good laps and take the best time, maybe even with different drivers.

@HeavenlyWarrior 9 жыл бұрын

I would still buy the Audi RS5. Audi looks are much better and I really like Audi.

@HeavenlyWarrior 9 жыл бұрын

FreedomWarrior After thinking I doubt that M4 is faster than the Audi rs5 which has 4WD. The guy can't just drive Audi properly.

@supremeetnel7707 9 жыл бұрын

+FreedomWarrior have you driven any of these car to know which is better. Because your avi looks like you don't even have a drivers license

@HeavenlyWarrior 9 жыл бұрын

Supreme Etnel avi? Sorry I only speak two languages and one of them is english. I have a drivers license for 9 years and no I never driven any of those cars. The audi rs5 just because is 4WD it's faster than the m4 in any road conditions. Perhaps only in dry tarmac road the m4 can be faster...

@heamees4822 9 жыл бұрын

+FreedomWarrior No, Audi has shitth balance and lot of understeer. BMW i just a better car in this case

@HeavenlyWarrior 9 жыл бұрын

Hea Mees Ok, I buy that. But because Audi has 4WD it is faster in bad road conditions.

@weed46 10 жыл бұрын

The perfect car would be the M4 with the RS5 engine... Those sounds pumped from the speakers in the M4 sound so sythetic...

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

Don't make a confusion between engine and sound. With the RS5 engine it would have been heavier, less powerfull, with less torque... So pretty much a worse car. It's pretty good IMO and i think that in real life the sound is different. A lot of people say that since they have driven the car they know that the sound is not a that big issue. Also you can change the exhaust and disable the Active sound...

@DGRWPF 10 жыл бұрын

+1, that engine is the only thing i like about audi. 8500rpm ftw!

@weed46 10 жыл бұрын

Kaisuke971 Not nececeraly... The fact that the M4 is a 3 liter doesn't mean is lighter than a 4 liter V8. A inline turbo 6, not only has the extra weight of the aditional turbo, but also the components atached to it like piping, intercooler, stronger exhaust, bov, etc. But also the block and the internals have to deal with more torque, therefore need to be stronger, therefore heavier. That's why a LSX conversion in RX-7 has been so popular in RX-7, the whole 5.7 or 6.2 NA V8 weight almost the same as the stock twinturbo wankel engine, and everybody knows that the wankel engines are the lightest car engines in the world... Is the turbocharged part that adds weight. the Famous 2JZ and Rb26 are very heavy engines, but they are very very strong. lexus LFA engine, is a V10, has the size of a V8, and the weight of a V6, and makes 560hp. and probably the engine alone costs more than the entire M4 :p

@M5v8twinturbo 10 жыл бұрын

You realize that less than 5% of the sound in the cabin is synthetic? Which means over 95% is natural. Fact.

@burritomaker69 10 жыл бұрын

Jonny Oliveira Well its funny you say that because its actually substantially lighter being that the s65 in the e92 was lighter than Audis 4 liter v8 and this Turboed I6 is even lighter than the s65.................

@JamezE36 10 жыл бұрын

the only reason people say the M4 is ugly is because its constantly shown in austin yellow. look up this car in yas marina blue or sakhir orange and you cant deny it looks much better! the rs5 is just another audi imo and 2 seconds on a short course like that is a huge amount to lose by

@M3Conv 9 жыл бұрын

For the people saying that he was 'drifting the car', and 'whats the camera car' on the hot lap you need to keep in mind that usually the lap they show is not the actual lap they timed. Most of the channels actually just piece bits together to make a better video. Reading Autocar magazine when they did the drag race between 918 vs P1 vs Bike, even that was just filmed for effect after they ran each vehicle separately and timed them. The results are accurate though and personally i think this guy is one of the better drivers in terms of getting the most out of the cars they test.

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

Again the M4 is the winner, this car is almost perferct (i think you know why ALMOST :). Can't wait to see it perform against the new C63 and the new RS4/RS5 !

@DICsquared 10 жыл бұрын

c63 would be slower than rs5 on the track!

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

DICsquared The 507 and BS are here for that :)

@MrColincas 10 жыл бұрын

Ummm it already did. They tested the M4 vs C63 AMG 507 and the MERC lost. Sorry.

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

Colin Cas I said it's faster than the RS5 not the M4 -_-" Even if i love BMW those merc cars are pretty good. More like heavy kick-ass sedan, but still good. I only have a little problem with Audi... Their cars and engine are goods, and AWD too but damn the expensive VW idea is weird !

@Personal_Comp 10 жыл бұрын

Colin Cas The M4 is 6s slower than C63 AMG Black Series on nordschleife. I suspect that new C AMG coupe will be evenly matched with a M4. It is not fair to compare an old generation to a new one.

@josefbiro3791 8 жыл бұрын

BMW are best.most beatiful cars in the world.

@danielsp9834 8 жыл бұрын

They are pretty beautiful but you can't say that this rs5 is ugly The m4 has this aggressive corners everywhere and looks very aerodynamic but the rs5's front is so clean and the singleframe cooler thing (don't know the exact word in english cause I'm from austria :) is just awesome but i also would prefer the m4

@josefbiro3791 8 жыл бұрын

+dansgi neunundneunzig no i dont say the rs5 is ugly its butifoul to but i Think the m4 is the most butifoul car i ever seen

@josefbiro3791 8 жыл бұрын

+supermotardmario ok not the most butifoul but the m4 is the most butifoul BMW ever made

@josefbiro3791 8 жыл бұрын

+supermotardmario Did you see the Audis the most of them has not leather seats so ugly Interrior if you want a Audi whith Nice Interrior maybe rs6 this cost over 130k dollars and the BMW m5 cost 70-80k

@deepaknarayan1694 8 жыл бұрын

i8looks too good

@TheChroniclesCarsNGaming 8 жыл бұрын

you can clearly tell this guys a bmw fanboi

@ahmetcanakkoyun979 8 жыл бұрын

And you're an Audi fanboy

@TheChroniclesCarsNGaming 8 жыл бұрын

Ahmetcan Akkoyun never said i wasn't ---fuckin idiot

@richieasian 9 жыл бұрын

I think the only reason BMW uses fake sound is because there's so much soundproofing in the car that the engine can barely be heard. I have a 2013 f30 335i and I can't hear the engine at all at 5,000 RPM when I have the music on at a moderate volume. When I'm just driving around normally, I don't even notice it. However, when I stand outside the car and listen to it being driven by a valet or the guys at my local BMW dealer, it sounds pretty loud.

@VulkanmadAD 10 жыл бұрын

Audi RS5 is a beast!

@heinedenmark 10 жыл бұрын

I'll take the M4 anyday.. much more a drivers car than the Audi.

@tlmel8401 7 жыл бұрын

This man is the best reviewer ever!

@ProfessorB70 10 жыл бұрын

I would like to see the road test and read the track test because it is more important how the car drives on normal roads

@MetalsForBrunch 10 жыл бұрын

m4 sounds meh... its a lighter faster more agile car on tracks I miss their v8 m3. Audi is the more realistic car to drive everyday with that awesome V8, that extra weight means extra comfort. love cruising in the city and highway on a v8. drifting is a plus but not necessary, tracks are fun twice a year. I'll go with the RS5.

@MrBiohazard878 10 жыл бұрын

According to other comparisons, the M4 also offers more comfort than the RS5

@jojajo2707 10 жыл бұрын

MrBiohazard878 anyway...the m4 engine sounds shitty and the consumption is higher. they tested both on a german car magazin. how is it possoble that a 200 lighter car need more fuel than a 1,2l bigger engine with two pistons more? plus the 4.2 v8 is so old the inline 6 t is brand new

@jojajo2707 10 жыл бұрын

MrBiohazard878 bmw cant built turbo engines! Benz and AUdi do it much better. only the NA engines of BMW are the best

@ciocanu 6 жыл бұрын

jojajo2707 if you buy this car and you think about 1,2l more, you’re sick.

@GAS.M3 10 жыл бұрын

If you want a car that fishtails all over the road, get an M4. If you want a car that grips and hugs the road like a car should...RS5 ;-)

@Ioanides001 10 жыл бұрын

Was to be expected that the latest M3(4, whatever) will beat the old (now) RS5. It's also to be expected that the new RS5 (with a twin turbo V6) will beat by a margin the M4. Than the journalists will say that the BM is a better car to drive (because you can drift) while the RS5 has the upper hand in the wet. So boring, really...

@clarkhui543 5 жыл бұрын

I have an Audi RS5, though I always wanted a M4 before I purchased that car. To be honest, RS5 could satisfy your expectancy in both performance and daily commute, if you aren't a hardcore driver just like me. I pretty much enjoyed this Audi.

@tomdeakins7339 8 жыл бұрын

For the average driver - which is all of us, the M4 is entirely too much work, as demonstrated by the host. This just sold me on the Audi.

@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын

The m4 is simply put, more fun to drive. Its faster, it handles better and i have never driven a car that drifts with such precision. You can really push it without completely spinning it out, i tried the same shit in a mustang gt and almost destroyed the car cus i expected it to handle like the m4. Long story short, i got back in the m4 and was so glad i did. The audi does burst out of those corners nicely though, you can really get on the throttle pretty early but the fact that its so loaded with understeer takes the fun out of driving it in anything but a straight line... which is great cus its a fast car but the m4 is even faster in the straight line. So why would i choose the audi? Oversteer is way more fun than understeer. It really gives a car personality. Drive both, make your judgement, i know ive made mine. Brb im going to the garage to go hug my m4 once again.

@tigerjonn 8 жыл бұрын

+LegendInThaMakin why get the audi..? Cause audis are like Starks. it can do everything u just mentioned, on the road, ..AND in the snow... season of audi baby... When the winter comes bmw has no chance.

@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын

kil koh Why would i drive a car worth almost 100k in the snow? There are winter beaters for that. Come on dude.

@tigerjonn 8 жыл бұрын

LegendInThaMakin why would you buy a 100k car that can't drive in the snow, especially when there are cars that can do both..? I guess bmw are similar to iphones... they are mostly owned by douche bags, or kids who think it makes them cooler by owning one... but of course iphones are very good at what it does, but also very limited in its abilities compared to galaxies. very similar to iPhone and galaxies...

@LegendInThaMakin 8 жыл бұрын

kil koh What im saying is if i paid that much for a car, i am only driving it when it's nice outside. I dont want it covered in snow, i dont want all the salt from the roads to get on the car. This not a douchebag perspective at all. This is coming from a man who loves his car. This opinion is shared among most, that's why you see more fancy cars in the summer than in the winter. I own a galaxy s7 edge but i still picked the m4. What now?

@dubbeking 9 жыл бұрын

Of course the BMW wins OF COURSE

@hendradi3031 8 жыл бұрын

+NightBot Ban M POWER FTW!

@Flydevice1 8 жыл бұрын

Bmw doesn't make supercars like Audi and Mercedes, but they do make great sports cars.

@hendradi3031 8 жыл бұрын

JJM Gaming but please keep in mind, BMW ever made a naturally aspirated engine for hypercar which is legendary in 1992-1999. The car was much stronger than supercar ever made by the audi and mercedes until today.

@marjangulic 8 жыл бұрын

+Hendra Di Yup MCLAREN F1

@bighands69 8 жыл бұрын

+NightBot Ban Because it is a lighter car and is not really comparable to the RS5.

@DreamCarGarage1 Жыл бұрын

What I want to know is 'what car was the camera guy in?'

@ahmetu. Күн бұрын

Actually, the rival of this rs5 is the e92 m3 competition. Since the m4 is a newer generation car, it has an advantage in many performance criteria, but it is still a good comparison video. Also, when the f82 came out, I bought one brand new (silverstone metallic). I used it for about 4 years and had good memories with the car. Maybe it wasn't the best M car of all time, but it was a very enjoyable car with its design, performance, technology and ease of use. This video reminded me of the old days.

@MrEngland92 10 жыл бұрын

Audi fan boys are going to start crying and complaining now...

@Kaisuke971 10 жыл бұрын

They talk about the sound of the M4 but i can spend a full day speaking about the bad sides of the RS5

@huangxingchen3735 10 жыл бұрын

Kaisuke971 I can spend a week to talk about the badside of m4. Because other than track, nothing else on the M4 could win the RS5

@huangxingchen3735 10 жыл бұрын

Kaisuke971 I have spent half a year about choosing between RS5, and M4, And if you really want to know, let me know.

@DukeParit 10 жыл бұрын

Huang Xingchen The M4 is more economical, more comfortable, nicer to drive, has better feel, has more usable performance, more reliable, better looking, nimbler, faster and full of technology. Apart from the video we say, and those small bits that I have mentioned, the RS5 is better. No it's not!!!!

@huangxingchen3735 10 жыл бұрын

agreed

@NickoSupra 9 жыл бұрын

Both are great cars, I would take the M4 because I like the M cars. but then again, Supra is my dream car, so Turbo, 3 litre straight sixes, turbos and RWD.. Everything that Audi lacks.

@MD-uu5nt 8 жыл бұрын

+NickoSupra Why would you ever want a turbo when you can have large displacement and throttle response? I have a 2.5 N/a alfa and a 2.5 Turbo Subaru and the engine in the Alfa is just so much more enjoyable to drive. I love the Subaru and it is faster than the Alfa but turbos definitely dont add to the fun. Id take an N/A car over a Turbo anyday if the power is comparable.

@benpaul5330 9 жыл бұрын

Love both but I'll lean towards the M4. I'm getting the M3 though! So excited!

@danielohio9462 6 жыл бұрын

I think the M4 is one of the best looking BMWs in years, Menacing, purposeful and perfectly proportioned.

@zigga88 10 жыл бұрын

Isnt the RS5 old now? Pretty stupid test... Why not wait for the new C63 and RS5?

@jo05dk 10 жыл бұрын

I MAY be able to live with a turbo M-car, but i'd never accept that HORRIBLE in-car noise. i can't even imagine who made them buy that idea. For me the Audi is the car. It looks better to me, it certainly sounds a hell of a lot better, and - in real world use - the four wheel drive must be a huge bonus. ..i can't believe i lived to see a day where a BMW M-car sounds like a computergame inside. So much fail.....

@jamescutter8760 10 жыл бұрын

Yeah I do agree but all car manufacturers are starting to use fake noise sounds through the speakers. We just have to get used to it

@jo05dk 10 жыл бұрын

J.C VenomDrifter Wonna bet that they'd stop throwing that bullshit in their cars, if people stopped buying them?;-) I'm the customer, not a sheep. I carry more power than them. That is.. i could be powereful. Sadly the majority of customers out there ARE sheep, handing the power right back to them. Changing this would be easy, just like getting a decent political system would be easy, if only people actually cared. Sadly they don't so in the end you're right. Guess we'll have to learn to live with it. In my case: the day i'm forced to buy such a shitbox, i'll do whatever's needed to get rid of the fake sound. It's way to pathetic for me to live with :)

@jamescutter8760 10 жыл бұрын

Yeah same here. I bet the new M4 convertible won't be as bad since you can here the exhausts much more. Looks so damn sexy :D

@jamescutter8760 10 жыл бұрын

Well let's hope :)

@jo05dk 10 жыл бұрын

J.C VenomDrifter Roof that goes away wil def. help..i hope :)

@StunnaTwo9 10 жыл бұрын

I love AUDI but they shouldve had the 4.0L twin turbo engine that comes in the RS 6 and RS 7 in the RS 5, hopefullly they do put it in the new one!

@johnmcluskey 10 жыл бұрын

There is no way the Audi is going to beat the M car on a track battle especially in dry conditions. The RS5 is a good sporty all rounder and can be used in any conditions and the BMW is a car designed with track in mind. I would love to have both if them in my garage.

@Amidat 10 жыл бұрын

exactly - different focuses... if you compare them based on what it's like to own every day... the results would probably be the exact opposite.

@willieransom7828 9 жыл бұрын

Audi RS5 hands down, 8,500 rpm derived from the LeMans gt3 v10. If the Audi had a carbon roof game over, BMW only wins because of weight difference; close that gap and that Audi will destroy that m4 for sure!

@elchawichem 9 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the Audi has a 1.2 litre advantage in engine size. The weight becomes irrelevant since that monstrous V8 should be making the difference. The M4 only has a 3.0 litre engine and is able to top i would dare say every single car in the world that has a similar engine size. Just a thought.

@jortepap 9 жыл бұрын

the M4 is just soo much faster in straight line.

@willieransom7828 9 жыл бұрын

elchawichem Great point Elchawichem, but weight makes all the difference between the two. The v6 has smaller displacement but things are evened out when a turbo is added. The Audi is a n/a engine with no tricks (natty) the BMW is a (half natty) turbos and let's not forget "artificial sound" major no no! Don't forget the origins of this v8 nothing g in common with the one from the past; huge potential being derived from the LeMans V10!

@elchawichem 9 жыл бұрын

Willie Ransom Haha yeah the artificial noise is a bit of a turn-off. Both great cars and would love to have either one of them in my driveway. But my heart has always gone out to BMW (My opinion is biased lol).

@33cano33 9 жыл бұрын

Willie Ransom weight balance is everything! A carbon roof wouldnt help a nose heavy car at all.

@unintentionallyfire 10 жыл бұрын

Remember the M4 sounds like a Prius.

@cmorales2831 10 жыл бұрын

Don't be silly. Look up m4 performance exhaust. Sounds 1000 times better in person

@ojdj13 10 жыл бұрын

Don't be butt hurt because your Volkswagen lost

@robertsmajlovic7908 10 жыл бұрын

O J hahahahahahaha good one hahahahahaha

@rayaanshaikh5830 10 жыл бұрын

cmorales2831 How much does the Performance exhaust cost? I fancy an M3 with one

@Victor4293 10 жыл бұрын

O J You are so ignorante and so pathetic... OMFG " your vw lost" Do even know the history of audi? and why they are in a group? and where audi engines come??? Go to offial websites of Audi www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/audi-innovation/heritage/iconic-cars/audi-80.html Read that and click on engine ! Good luck

@stanmihaylov693 4 жыл бұрын

6 years later. NA cars are dying and it’s sad because they sound better than turbocharged cars IMO. Love both cars tho. Im buying the rs5 as my daily driver. Sticking an exhaust on it tuning it and adding a better suspension set up. Reason I chose the rs5 is because of that Na engine and the subtleness of it. Bmw as a daily is just to out there for me personally. I’m a car enthusiast not a bmw fanboy or Audi fanboy. I will buy whatever car I like that fits in my price range and that fits best to my needs.

@sibimb 10 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree with you any more. If you ask me, I'd rather take the Quattro system than the RWD because you are more likely to floor it on the road rather than drift it's corners. I think Audi has always made better cars than BMW and that'll never change.

@muddyhotdog4103 9 жыл бұрын

They like the car because it looses control easier.. that's stupid. buying a car because you can drift it easier is the dumbest reason to even buy one. The audi is clearly better in my opinion. If they wanted to drift it they could have easily put all the horsepower in the rear, it's not that hard to figure out. They have to really push the limits with the BMW to keep up(which is dumb)

@cnc_channel510 9 жыл бұрын

Did you miss the end of the video when he says he will be testing them for road use next time? BMW is clearly MUCH MUCH better car for track use. I dont know how much you are in to racing,.. but 2.3 seconds on such a short track is massive difference. Even half a second on such track is really a lot..but 2.3?? This is like one car is in garage.. And if you know that both of these cars have simillar power output, which chassis is more effective, and which chassis gives you better control over the car? It would be great if you think, before you write something. BMW does not loose control easy, he drives it with all electronics disabled, and by drifting it, it shows you how much control you have over the car..But this is probably all to much for you.. And for all those talking how audi is better on the road, safer etc.. Buying 400+ bhp car for road use? Why?? Considering all this, BMW - faster on track by miles, more fun to drive..makes sense, audi - more than 400hp, clearly aiming to be fast, but 2.3 seconds slower than competitor, and boring to drive.. makes no sense. If you want safe road car, which goes from A to B, you dont need any of these two. As this is very closed track with lots of low speed corners, from which AWD bennefits over RWD, I can only imagine how big the gap would be on a normal racing track..

@muddyhotdog4103 9 жыл бұрын

Simon Slana I dont buy that. Put the two cars at a line and punch the accelerator and the audi will clearly smoke the bmw. Simple as that. Did you not see my last sentence before? They push the hell out of that car to get that time (my whole point really)! The audi doesn't even break a sweat during that run. They are clearly pushing the bmw past it's limits of safety. I see a lot of idiots crashing their bmw's on the road also, so tell that to them. And ya its kinda funny how Bmw is just now getting into awd game, and they suck ha. You're dumb if you buy a bmw for a track car. Cant even tune the dam thing. Would way rather buy a nissan or something else for the money in that respect if i'm just going to end up drifting it out of control trying to push its' limits!

@cnc_channel510 9 жыл бұрын

Faster in straight line? As first.. this really isnt so important, if you know that car is 2.3seconfs faster on approx. 1.5km track. This would bring up arround 4-5 seconds on normal 4km racing track. And than, BMW is FASTER even in straight line, 0-100 kph BMW 4.0, audi 4.2. Simple as that. Both cars were pushed to the limits, this is the point of getting on track and driving a hot lap. You go to race track and say well..I could do better lap time, but I was driving safer? Sounds retarded. Sure with nose heavy FWD audi looks less dramatic, while BMW is tail happy so it looks it is pushed harder(by your terms). Note that audi sistem of AWD is bassicaly FWD, back wheels only kick in when urgent. FWD with weight distribution to the front will cause car to be understeerd. It is a well known fact that all audis suffer from understeer. Note how far to the front BMW pushes front axle - this is to achieve better R:F distribution, on BMW M4 this is approx 51.8 : 48.2 % , while audi RS5 has 41:59 - which is dissaster. Even BMW with 52:48 isnt perferct, arround 55 to the back and 45 to the front is very good, but it is extremly hard to achieve that with engine in the front. This is why hardcore sportcars use engine mounted in the middle of chassis.I dont know why are you so in to audi, if it looks better to you - OK, if you need more space in back seats - OK, if you need bigger trunk - OK, but when talking about performance of these two, BMW is winner, and not for few precents, it is winner by milles.. Better weight distribution, lower CG, smaller overall weight..even on paper everything is cristal clear, and it also gets confirmed in reality. So, if you want performance car, BMW is the one to choose. If something else is more important to you, maybe audi. But why choose 400+ horse power car and not care about performance..

@muddyhotdog4103 9 жыл бұрын

nope, a newer 40:60 ratio in the generatio VI with up to 85% of torque being delivered to the rear(and no more than 75% to front when needed) in the "crown gear differential" is not mostly front wheel drive buddy. The axle distribution in a Bmw is due to its RWD only application. Considering the Awd in audi, its a pretty dam good ratio, one that Bmw will have trouble trying to achieve when they try making their M series AWD(which they are attempting) Yes, audi is a better everyday luxury car(faster on a line, safer, and more reliable). If you pulled up to a light in your Bm and i was in the audi, I would smoke you off the line. That's what i like. If you want to drift a car go buy a nissan skyline. And like i said, when audi goes into competition it cleans house over bmw. If audi wanted to make a RWD only marketed car i'm sure it would give bmw a run for its money considering it already does with AWD. Bmws AWD already blows when compared to audi. If you ask me you should compare both with AWD to see who's doing better in the market-this is where the future is in cars..RWD is getting outdated.

@cnc_channel510 9 жыл бұрын

This is getting stupid.. Again, where the fuck did you get information that audi is faster on straight line?? BMW is faster even on straight line! Look at the data. Why would BMW have to achieve anything, if it already dominates audi.. Audi cleans competition when it goes to competition.. this one is really funny. Please check this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_N%C3%BCrburgring On right site you can see, most manufacturer wins has BMW. Than about the M4 vs rs5, nordschleife M4 time is 7:52, RS5 time is 7:59. Nordschleife is benchmark for how fast the car is. Same driver was driving both. Still think BMW was pushed harder to achieve better time? What kind of argument is, that audi is more reliable? BMW M4 is out for not even a year, and you already know that is unreliable? Audi is safer?? BMW 4 series achieve 5 stars euro ncap rating. Your arguments are total bullshit, not even a single argument is true. This is pathetic. Do you just make up something and write it? Faster on straight line, when is clearly not, safer when is clearly not, more reliable when cars are not even old enought.. You should be a politician.. As proof of BMWs much better straight line acceleration: fastestlaps.com/cars/bmw_m4.html BMW: 0-100 - 4s 0-200 - 13.1s fastestlaps.com/cars/audi_rs5.html audi RS5: 0-100 - 4.2s 0-200 - 14.7s Data speaks for itself.. Faster in straight line, faster trought corner, better lap time on closed track, better lap time on open track.. much better fuel economy.. Better in every single aspect.. Go buy audi, I take bimmer in a heartbeat.

@jimbeau7879 10 жыл бұрын

Still prefer my M3 E92 to that artificial M4.

@shadyninja1 8 жыл бұрын

ceramic brakes on m4 but standard brakes on the RS 5. plus the much heavier RS 5 by around 300kg

@kevinembleton6891 9 жыл бұрын

Now that's not a fair comparison - a base RS5 against a fully loaded M4 with ceramic brakes.... Even so, considering it's an old car it did pretty well - imagine trying to push on along a public road in the M4 - it'd be all over the place. They didn't even pick a decent colour or nice wheels on the Audi! I've got a fully loaded RS4 and it's amazing with the sports dif. Wiped the floor with a C63 a few days ago too! 👍

@day3002 10 жыл бұрын

I would like to see someone else driving all 3 cars and then compare the times. Just by looking at how he drove the car, it csn be driven faster.

@roberthoffman6823 10 жыл бұрын

Yes he was driving like a maniac, but his official lap was neat and tidy which accounted for the times.

@TheYoKoMoCz 10 жыл бұрын

Coolin , it would be really emberassing if bmw losts against 6 years old car.You have to realize that M4 is absolutly new car so wait to 2016 audi rs5 and we will see who is going to win. And if you look at race battle between RS5 and old M3 you can see that audi clearly wins even against C63

@MrColincas 10 жыл бұрын

Adam Dymovský No my friend. I disagree! Both cars on this video are 2015. So is the C63 507 edition that lost to M4 as well. And i don't care which car is faster on the 1/4 mile. I care about the performance overall. And so far BMW has been doing great job.

@sufficetosay 10 жыл бұрын

Colin Cas Unless you drive in snow!!!

@Gez492 10 жыл бұрын

Colin Cas It is an interesting point that almost exclusively fast BMW's are tested against what is perceived as their direct competitors on the track. This is to accentuate the rear wheel drift that is undeniably a predominant characteristic, particularly so in the powerful M cars. This of course is relatively safe and some would say "good Fun" on a closed track but in the real world and all around driving conditions, I would argue that the propensity to "Tail Out" is very undesirable. My point is that a fast M would struggle to stay with its equal and opposite RS point to point across countries. Even the brand new and impressive M4 would struggle against the undeniably long in the tooth RS5 in a real world race. I watched a Nissan GTR one of the fastest most agile and technically capable cars available today and easily capable of bettering any M Car on or off the track, being unable to shake off an RS6 Avant in a real world varied road conditions test. It was also noticeable that the RS6 driver seemed to understand that driving a fast 4 wheel drive car requires a different discipline to what is required in a fast rear wheel drive. Using late braking, balancing the car on throttle mid corner and then using the Quattro and the V8TFSI to sling shot early out of the corner. You cannot set up the BMW in that way and getting on the power early in normal road conditions would inevitably induce either a lurid tail drift or the electronics would interfere and kill the power and the so called fun with it but somehow I think the average Joe would rather get his beloved Beemer home in one piece than have it drift into the nearest ditch or worse into he oncoming articulated 40 tonner, which of course would never appear on a track.

@Thor86- 8 жыл бұрын

I am a Mercedes Guy, but in this case i like Audi much more then Bmw, looks defintely better, drives better, more luxurious, more grip, the m4 looks like a a penis with pig nose.nothing else.

@dimas5093 7 жыл бұрын

my man hahahaha, this is the only legit comment in this whole commentsection

@bmwspothq9101 9 жыл бұрын

A vs B, Who Will Prevail - The Audi RS5 vs The BMW M4 - An Epic Track Battle, Courtesy Of Auto Express #BMWM4 #BMW #M4 #AudiRS5 #Audi #RS5 #AutoExpress

@persianinfj1413 9 жыл бұрын

Finally a honest car review!

@Mr__305 9 жыл бұрын

That's funny his opinion is that the Audi rs5 is a better overall car but all the experts and professional track drivers say that the m4 is overall the better car than the Audi rs5...... Facts always trumps opinions BMW wins again

@simonwalker6689 9 жыл бұрын

Mr 305 Get an Evo it will obliterate either of these German piles of sausage side rubbish. BMW and Audi who cant laugh at the crap so slow so chavy

@Mr__305 9 жыл бұрын

I already had an Evo 8 and a Evo 9 in my twenties and now since I'm older I decided to kind of act my age and drive Bimmers

@patfromozZ 9 жыл бұрын

Mr 305 Perhaps the Audi is "a better overall car". I think pro track drivers are going to be more focused on how the car drives on the track rather than the overall package itself. For road use at sane and legal speeds I don't think you would be disappointed with either vehicle.

@patfromozZ 9 жыл бұрын

I think if I had the choice I would probably pick the BMW however, that could change if they bring out the new RS5 with the TT 4.0 V8 :)

@YouArentSlick 9 жыл бұрын

You just stated 2 different opinions, you realize that right?

@AnyTechReviews 10 жыл бұрын

I must say, I think the new C63 will blow them both away... I would take the M4 if I had to choose between these two though.

@AnyTechReviews 10 жыл бұрын

What on earth are you talking about? We haven't even seen the new C63.

@bendude6748 8 ай бұрын

Would be interesting to see how they’d compare on the road though because you can’t go drifting an M4 around every bend in real world situations lol

@nyikowatching9397 2 жыл бұрын

Did i just see this guy slide a audi😐that's skill u got there

@ManiacXD 9 жыл бұрын

Does this guy work for BMW or Auto Express?? Massively in favour of the M4, seemingly because it would be a better track day car. Which, of course is what we all do all day. Not just use it as a car, in the rain, wind and occasional snow. Which the M4 will be hopeless in. Poor review!

@TheMpofu 10 жыл бұрын

The M4 makes me even more excited for the M2

@v1c1ous0ne 8 жыл бұрын

One lap in the m and the tires are toast......also nobody drives that out of control when racing others.....wait maybe in Tokyo!

@atahan.yuksel 9 жыл бұрын

Watch it with the subtitles. At 1:20 subtitles tells everything. That sound is "LOVE"...

@MasterSteve_117 9 жыл бұрын

audi kids crying.

@hendradi3031 9 жыл бұрын

BMW M4 easily wins

@ferrarieustratios 9 жыл бұрын

It has ceramic brakes and that is what gives BMW the win

@volf4o 9 жыл бұрын

ferrarieustratios Not to mention the better weight ratio and the better balance of the weight in the car ^^ hahaha

@hendradi3031 9 жыл бұрын

ferrarieustratios BMW is a benchmark for drivers car, no doubt. they're should be compete to any Porsche line up. M4 vs 911 M3 vs Cayman Z4 vs Boxster M5/M6 Grandcoupe vs Panamera X5 M vs Cayenne Turbo S both are is the best for drivers car, BMW & Porsche FTW.

@edwardvansterkenburg8871 9 жыл бұрын

You are totally right! All the other dickheads who are audi fanboys: BMW beats Audi. I don't know if you reckoned, but the Audi is more expensive than the BMW and the BMW wins over the Audi. And it also looks better.

@asg-hp2953 9 жыл бұрын

i am not fan of any cars, i love bmw more , but this is the truth: quattro is more powerful and succesfull than xdrive guys, bmw has fastest city cars this is the truth. but in real race, there is no differents at cars about horse powers. Because of these in real race audi is more succesfull i think because quattro is better. And trust me guys, i am not fan audi and bmw. But i like more bmw. (Sorry for bad english)