Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Winter Below Freezing Review | Shelby GT350 | Auto Fanatic

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6 жыл бұрын

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Review in below freezing temperature on my Shelby GT350. This tire is simply incredible in every regard I never experienced such a good tire that can do everything beyond the limits with no compromises. Just shot this video live in NY and it is cold as hell! I do not recommend anyone to drive on summer tires below 45 degree temps. This video was conducted just as a test and these tires are not a replacement for winter or all season variants.
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@MatthewGaither
@MatthewGaither 6 жыл бұрын
Great video for those of us who enjoy high performance vehicles and want to drive them on a year round basis. Thanks for all of your hard work on this and I have to say your red and white GT350 is truly awesome!
@jondoe9110
@jondoe9110 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are amazing for newbie or semi newbie mustang owners or even people who are looking to buy a mustang in the future. Keep posting fam idc what others say I love your vids!!!!
@doskiller9693
@doskiller9693 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video and testing ...... like I said on a post in one of you other videos, it's like watching you drive my car. Gotta get these tires .......... Thanks so much.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support, Shelby Brembo brake squeal video was shot and will go live Monday so you def want to watch that one as everyone seems to have this issue.
@kellyvtec
@kellyvtec 6 жыл бұрын
I just love the red with white stripes! Amazing!
@bossmikey7301
@bossmikey7301 6 жыл бұрын
I also just ordered my 18 gt350 in lead foot grey and i love watching your videos.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
You will love it man you have real driving roads not the shit broken up NYC junk i drive on, i can not wait to move from the area in a few months,
@tombaker2778
@tombaker2778 5 жыл бұрын
very good info! I am driving my GT350 tomorrow in Seattle with temps near 36F in the morning!
@JustinHEMI05
@JustinHEMI05 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, glad I came across it! I live near Pittsburgh and I'm heading to Florida to pick up a BMW M2 that has these tires on them. I was concerned about driving it back here in the cold, and this video helped lessen my concerns. Now I just hope it doesn't snow and shit. :)
@Dexter_19
@Dexter_19 6 жыл бұрын
That set up looks incredible man. The 6GR Fives looked great as well.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
can you believe how these tires stick in the below freezing temps, just blown away at these. Yeah the new wheels look killer!
@play150
@play150 3 жыл бұрын
I've found the Pilot Sport 4Ss to be decent in cold weather (e.g slightly below freezing), but once there's snow/ice all the grip is lost - just to keep in mind!
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
Because Michelin Sport 4S are summer tires.
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 Жыл бұрын
@MDEV I am getting some 4s tires on Monday. Can they be used in the Winter? Under 32 degrees. I thought it would damage the tires.
@zoner__
@zoner__ Жыл бұрын
@@tyarnold4088 Michelin says don't use below 50 degrees you can damage the tires
@MrChrisdavie
@MrChrisdavie 4 жыл бұрын
I went from the pilot sports to the mps4s and the difference was night and day on my M5 competition pack. Went from spinning the real wheels at 120mph+ to gripping in second. Never seen road tyres tame a 600bhp rwd so convincingly. Best upgrade I ever made, apart from going to 750bhp in the summer 😁
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
For 600 bhp and more power Michelin Sport Cup 2 is better. But only important that you need to know is that Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires don't use when the temperature is low ( cold ).
@sgt_loeram1933
@sgt_loeram1933 Жыл бұрын
True they’re great in warm to hot weather but damn are they terrible when the temp drops!
@marianelkassab3066
@marianelkassab3066 3 жыл бұрын
Best review on topic I found online ,,,, much appreciated
@bdanyluk
@bdanyluk 5 жыл бұрын
Great video..thanks! Next tire for my C6 corvette down here in Atlanta, for all year round!
@NicMagz
@NicMagz 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your willingness to test these tires in said conditions. I'd be curious to see the results of a closed test from like Tire Rack or something to see how they perform quantitatively.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 2 жыл бұрын
Tire Rack does good testing but they are not driving them daily to compile enough data usually it's a one shot deal and the feedback the staff gets that day is what goes into the results. Also the Tire Rack for liability reasons will never test ZR rated tires in cold winter conditions due to them being a reseller and liable for misleading a consumer I did this test for fun and to prove this tire does work in the winter temps.
@markr.5266
@markr.5266 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for making this video and putting that fine Shelby through its paces !!! .... Have you done any rain videos with temps falling below 50 to 40 degrees F ? I found that a bit slippery around corners even on normal mode with traction control on. In warm weather the tires work exceptionally well in rain. Below 45 degrees things seem to become noticeably different. And you are right, you become a better driver. Im 58 and a driver had to work to keep any car on the road and each and every car was different, until now with these tires and technology. Track mode, Sport Plus mode are the real deal but the cops hear ya coming from a mile away around here.... Living in Canada (I'm a dually passported individual) during this time of year, we get a lot of night and morning fog and mist. I just bought a 2020 GT Mustang Convertible Perf Pkg 1 (Awesome vehicle T.Y. Ford !) and with these tires and I was reluctant to push it at 40 degree weather until now... Thank you so much for making this video. I put 3500 miles on the car... this month lol. Thank you again... great video...
@user-lh3si6lv3z
@user-lh3si6lv3z 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video . I just bought a Q60 trying to figure out what tire i want . Ive had good times with sticky Michelins and great breaks in the rainy wa. weather . I only use summer tires myself . Luckily dont have to drive on ice or snow being retired .lol.
@TavoElChingon
@TavoElChingon 6 жыл бұрын
From a fellow GT350 owner, thanks for maknig these videos. Very informative .
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
thanks, brembo brake squeal video will be uploaded shortly today, you wont want to miss that one. thanks AF
@4RealHero
@4RealHero 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible! Thank you for the video! Michelin have just come out with the sizes for these for the EcoBoost and was eager to see how they'd handle the cold. (Coming from Scotland) Similar temps over here and my Pzeros do okay after a warm up but still extremely ropey. If you are keeping these on your GT350 for a while I'd be keen to see a follow up of your thoughts on the P4s in the cold. Thanks again!
@4RealHero
@4RealHero 6 жыл бұрын
And PS the format of your reviews perfect. Its like being there with you on the drive. You should look at Binaural Microphones for your driving recordings. They pick up everything like human ears!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
John Bremner toss the Pzeros there is no comparison this P4s is the best tire you can get right now between how good it is in the rain and now in the cold there isnt another summer tire that can do it this good. all i can say is buy these tires now and youll enjoy you ur car so much more
@DaBinChe
@DaBinChe 4 жыл бұрын
Drove up to snow cap local summit. A good 30 miles up from 100ft above sea level to 4300ft. Top 300-500 feet had a snow, a few inches at the top. It had snowed overnight by that afternoon it was 50*+, tires were warmed by then but not hot. Once I got to the slush and icy road it was slipping and sliding all over. Had to go about 15mph to not slip. Tires were newish.
@Turbo329
@Turbo329 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I'm running these on my ZL1 1LE and they have been fantastic so far. I only spun sideways once after running over some wet leaves. You still gotta respect it but for regualar driving they are more than adequate.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the tires on the 1LE are dangerous to say the least on most streets. I just took the Cup2 off my Shelby GT350R and its night sand day with the Pilot 4S
@R3Wood
@R3Wood 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have a daily driver with 21" and zero all season options. I have Continentals now and they are terrible. I'm just south of you and we do get frequent sub-freezing temps thru the winter. I am purchasing these soon. It makes you wonder why all car manufacturers send summer tires stock to even colder locations than ours. Thank you.
@eric0w
@eric0w 6 жыл бұрын
The Pilot Sport 4S is amazing because the inner half of the tire is made from a harder compound for rain and cold temps. And the outer half of the tire is extreme summer compound.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
so impressive and so much better than the PSS I feel.
@992turbos8
@992turbos8 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Wang Yeah Eric you watch a KZfaq video on Michelin PS4. But there is a lot more that goes into them. Do real resource not just watch KZfaq vids
@992turbos8
@992turbos8 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic It really depends on the car, the weight, the power, the torque, the suspension. PS4 are not as good as PSS some cars like my F90 M5
@MrAdrian13
@MrAdrian13 4 жыл бұрын
911 991.2 TURBO S ok
@jacopo952
@jacopo952 4 жыл бұрын
so was the PSS to be fair. I don't know about harder, but definitely high silica on the inner tread for the reason you say and mileage. To be completely honest most tyres, once warmed up, even if cold outside, tend to perform OK
@DuckyRC
@DuckyRC 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the review!
@PASSPORT29
@PASSPORT29 5 жыл бұрын
low mid 20s temps in an awd 20g turbo car, they seem to be holding up for me. Also parked in a insulated garage over night.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I ran the Michelin PS4S all the way through our UK winter last year and was also incredibly impressed with the bite and grip from what is supposed to be an UHP summer tyre. I used to swap to winter rubber, but with the PS4S I don't need to. I even found them to be ok in light snow.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 жыл бұрын
yeah this tire truly impressed in the cold, rain and summer best tire they made for a street car
@admonix2
@admonix2 3 жыл бұрын
Did they crack?
@FinnyG47
@FinnyG47 Жыл бұрын
They'll crack. Mine did. You're just pushing your luck.
@creamfalcon
@creamfalcon Жыл бұрын
@@FinnyG47 thats what I figured. How cold do you think can you drive them in? Anything above 32 degrees? Or do you think only 50 and up.
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 Жыл бұрын
@Gary Finfrock so don't use them under 32 degrees? I am getting some next week.
@farzadkavari
@farzadkavari 2 жыл бұрын
This video answers my exact concern!! Thank u
@potatochobit
@potatochobit 5 жыл бұрын
on dry asphalt, summer tires still perform better than winter tires in terms of stopping distance and grip in cold weather above the freezing point. but always get your winter tires on ASAP because if you ever hit a patch of ice or some light snow you might be SOL.
@markjones338
@markjones338 5 жыл бұрын
Looks lovely and warm
@ronaldleung4866
@ronaldleung4866 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the great review
@ronlk46
@ronlk46 6 жыл бұрын
Anxious to see how the Pilot Sport AS3 Plus perform here in Albuquerque. Yes, the weather drops well below freezing and stay there for days and weeks! You mentioned that wheel cleaner you previously tested in a video and now not liking. Thanks! Yesterday received the Nanoskin Non-Acid Wheel & Tire Cleaner. The dilution rate is 4:1. They also recommend using a “Foamimg Trigger Sprayer”. Going to use the “Solo” that arrived earlier in the week.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
its a great tire in the winter youll see.
@vanisshen4467
@vanisshen4467 6 жыл бұрын
I just put on a set of AS3+ on today! Just driving around I already noticed how much better the ride is compared to the Cinturato P7's I had on before. Can't wait to see how it does in the Maryland winter and more importantly in the summer.
@USBcable
@USBcable 5 жыл бұрын
its still cold up here in canada and my winters are worn, have a set of new pilot sport 4s, think i'll stick them on the car now after watching this video. love that V8 btw
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 жыл бұрын
yeah they are great just dont drive in snow or ice but in cold temps they will get you by just fine
@cobra454tim
@cobra454tim 6 жыл бұрын
Great cold air for engine temps, I bet you made some good power on the intake temp side ! I have a Subaru Legacy with the flat 6 cly it come with better handling springs and roll bar vs the standard flat 4, the car originally had Bridgestone's Trunza EL400s they were complete garbage tire. Once I went with Michelin Pilots A/S 3, what a world of difference. One thing I notice on the Pilots are they are very sensitive to tire pressure adjustments, my Legacy calls for 33 psi in the front and 32 in the rear and I have found that going 2 psi over that seems to be the best for at least my car.
@A.Musa76
@A.Musa76 3 жыл бұрын
I'm debating between the A/S 3+ and the Pilot Sport 4. How did you like the A/S 3 and did you ever drive it in the snow if so how did it perform? I'm very limited on Tire size since I'm running 265/45/20s on a Bi-Turbo AMG.
@efthimios
@efthimios 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car can’t wait to get them on my 2011 335 xdrive!
@theLEGOguy22
@theLEGOguy22 4 жыл бұрын
I had new tyres fitted to my Giulia QV today. Didn’t want another set of Corsas and as you know the options are limited. In the end I went for the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport in OEM sizes. According to most reviews, they are on par with the MPS4S. Excited to run them in and report back.
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
After 2 years, what's your experience about Goodyear Eagle F1 Supersport ?.
@Jonathan1003
@Jonathan1003 5 жыл бұрын
I guess I feel a little better about driving my 19 GT Perf Pack with these P4S I live in northern NJ we have basically the same weather
@josephaung5878
@josephaung5878 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use them all year ?
@gorviv529
@gorviv529 4 жыл бұрын
@autofanatic What are your thoughts on using all season tires on a Mustang? Do you think it's better to go with UHP summer tires for most of the year and switch to winters in winter instead?
@efthimios
@efthimios 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to put them on my 2011 335 xdrive this week!!
@goatweedwillie5349
@goatweedwillie5349 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with these tires and cold weather is not grip its the compound used to make them. Freezing temps can damage the tires due to the compound changes under cold temperatures so just keep that in mind that the tire might not last a long if you use all season.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 2 жыл бұрын
I use these on all my high horsepower cars in temps in the 30s and 40s and never have any traction issues. below 20 etc a dedicated winter tire is suggested of course
@ryanmcfarland1900
@ryanmcfarland1900 5 жыл бұрын
How much did the drive change as the tire warmed up? I would think warmed up tires on cold pavement would provide excellent grip.
@jlebron6997
@jlebron6997 4 жыл бұрын
I have Michelin as/3 on my car now, time to replace the rears, I want these...do you see any issues with this set up?
@anamgguy3794
@anamgguy3794 6 жыл бұрын
I was considering the PSS tires for my S65 after my friend got into my ear about them, seeing as your not really having an issue in this weather, and that we drive in the same neighborhood, i think im gonna give them a go
@alexl6433
@alexl6433 6 жыл бұрын
NY_V12 there's a difference between PSS and Pilot Sport 4s (which is the one reviewed on this video)
@frankdogg75
@frankdogg75 4 жыл бұрын
What tire size did you go with? Great video, I know its older. But I'm recommending these tires to my friend whos got a gt350, like you. But said 305's aren't available. Thanks.
@bobsue3639
@bobsue3639 4 жыл бұрын
As he skids into the guy ahead of him - I think my testing is done !
@alexh8818
@alexh8818 2 ай бұрын
I’ve driven below freezing temps driving from Idaho to California Bay Area in my brz. The PS4s did a lot better than I would have ever expected them to do given the fact that they are summer tires. Although I did notice a higher amount of wear on them I think it was because I also made sure to keep them as warm as I could by slightly weaving large and right on long straights.
@RJC-ps6wc
@RJC-ps6wc 6 жыл бұрын
The Pilot Sport 4S is BY FAR the best tire I have ever put on my cars! While I am not in the habit of driving on summer tires when temps are in the 20s, it is good to know you can do it in a pinch with the 4S and there is no need to panic. Perhaps I was a little hasty when switching over to my Blizzaks (around Thanksgiving). Did you alter your tire pressures when driving the PS4S in the cold weather? As good as the PSS was, the PS4S is even better! It will be interesting see if the tread life is any longer than the PSS. Having said that, tread life is NOT the primary reason for using these tires, performance and safety is!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
RJC2001 yeah i didnt want to switch but had no choice with snow, the 4S. is so much better than the Super sport and the super sport was better than the Ps2 so it's a good progressive but damn its a little long before these new versions come to market.
@carlitosperez3092
@carlitosperez3092 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought my second set of MPS 4s and literally there isnt another tire on the market that i can use through out the year that offers the performance justabilty with these harsh chances in temperature in Wisconsin. During the Mid December time frame through late Febuary i use my stock wheels with a set of Cooper Discoverer True North tires.
@bradybehrman
@bradybehrman 5 жыл бұрын
Thinking about putting the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S 305/30/19's all around on my factory 2017 Shelby GT350 wheels. Any fitment issues or challenges?
@SpartanA31xx
@SpartanA31xx 6 жыл бұрын
Just as you said haha. Thanks for the video man!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
im sure you get the point of this video thanks for watching
@jay5252525
@jay5252525 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome video, but did you see that 4th gen prelude at around 2:05 into the video.😍🤣
@bennybodash855
@bennybodash855 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! I wish more would do reviews on Cooper Tires.
@Alexis_Wajdenbaum
@Alexis_Wajdenbaum 5 жыл бұрын
So you have badder highways than we have in Belgium. Didn't know it was possible. I have to change my summer tires on my 2015 Focus ST and I definitely will buy those PS4S. During Winter I use the Pirelli Sottozero III, they are great.
@jcs003
@jcs003 5 жыл бұрын
My CTS-V is a lil rough with the summer tires. Going to give these a shot next cold season: PILOT SPORT A/S 3+ (W- OR Y-SPEED RATED)
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
video just proves how superior this tire is to every other summer tire offered. thats why i did it
@alexl6433
@alexl6433 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic Aweome video. I have 2018 GT350 and has the Michelin Pilot Super Sport and it's true what you say "not the greatest tires". I'm looking at the Pilot Sport 4s did you go with a different tire size? Because 295/35ZR 19 or 305/35ZR19 are not available 😏
@joejoecamel9106
@joejoecamel9106 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexl6433 9 months later and they haven't started making them. Did you find an answer? The very inside of both my front tires are all but to the cords, and although I will mix and match I'd prefer not to.
@crowdsurfpp2192
@crowdsurfpp2192 4 жыл бұрын
My factory MPSS2 did fine in the winter on my gt350, even did a 20 degree track day. Heat makes the difference
@twfinc6855
@twfinc6855 5 жыл бұрын
just above freezing I had my SL63 out and the 4S tires are definitely more slippery on dry pavement than at well above freezing but they are still better than my Continental 5p that came with the car.
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
You should test Continental SportContact 7 tires.
@saummisra9621
@saummisra9621 3 жыл бұрын
HI- I am going to purchase new tires this week. Thanks for this video, it really helps! it seems traction is fine, but what would you say to those who say the tire can get damaged? I am in NYC so dealing with similar weather
@AndrewB23
@AndrewB23 2 жыл бұрын
Traction is fine without snow, with snow it's like a skating rink also with driving summer tires in the winter the tires could literally just start taking chunks off when driving
@scottbarker9058
@scottbarker9058 6 жыл бұрын
oh & 1-more thing i think you all are overlooking.....you know they (the city) puts ice melter -salt;on the roads to help melt the snow-ice. what do you think it does to the underside of your cars?....is it really worth it??
@stangmann1521
@stangmann1521 6 жыл бұрын
Great I was thinking of the 4s , I hear good things all over.....
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
get them man it will transform your Mustang is so many ways.
@warc8us
@warc8us 3 жыл бұрын
A set of 4 of these in 20in will cost me a cool $1,200 but man do they look like good tires. I have the Michelin Super Sports now, and probably got 10k miles left in them. But these look so good.
@raheeb1
@raheeb1 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't summer tires be at risk of cracking below 20F, and then it's game over plus of course Michelin would deny any warranty claims?
@johnnelson635
@johnnelson635 2 жыл бұрын
Coming up on my first winter in my ‘13 WRX and the dealership I bought it from put on brand new Pilot Sport 4 S’s and I’m curious how it’s going to play out
@FreshlySnipes
@FreshlySnipes Жыл бұрын
I have these on my G80 M3, they are fantastic. Haven’t driven them in the cold though.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars Жыл бұрын
Same here there a great all around performance tire
@bossmikey7301
@bossmikey7301 6 жыл бұрын
The 4s is the truth bro, i love them. Am here in Germany and i cruise about 130-140 MPH in my 2015 GT in the rain. Those tires hook in the rain and my traction control never kick in even when am getting on it. I will never go to another tire after driving on the 4s. Its a bit pricey but it totally worth every freaking penny.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
boss mikey thanks for posting your feedback these tires are great all around, the best tire in ever scenario.
@techmaster777
@techmaster777 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic I just ordered a set of 275/40/20 Pilot sport 4s for my Charger hellcat.. they apparently have a 30k mile warranty lol. I know they won’t last that long so they prorate the difference and I’ll get the rest as a down payment on my next set 😂 I ran through my current Pirelli p zero in 9k miles
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
wait til you try these out on the Hellcat the car will actually launch harder and more controlled i have driven them on that car already a HUGE difference. Have fun!
@techmaster777
@techmaster777 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic really? What’s the best 0-60 you’ve gotten in one? And does the car turn a lot better than the normal Pirelli
@psahmn
@psahmn 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos. Just picked up my GT350. I live in NH, planning to drive on cold, dry days in the winter. Currently running just the stock Pilot Sports on the stock wheels. I think it would be wise for me to pick another set of wheels to run some all-seasons that can handle the winter temps. What would you recommend?
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
Sam Penkacik get the Pirelli Winter Sotozeros if you guys get really bad winters or you can try a Conti DWS
@firstname7780
@firstname7780 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, but the main issue does not change. Sub zero, P Zero, Michelin PS4 and other tires increase exponentially the risk of structural failure/cracks. Especially if hitting road hazards, potholes, anything that can stress these tires.
@davidmarsteller2966
@davidmarsteller2966 5 жыл бұрын
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@HeadBassVTEC
@HeadBassVTEC Жыл бұрын
wow you are brave to step on it at those temps....I just bought a 2016 GT PP1
@tyarnold4088
@tyarnold4088 Жыл бұрын
He is stepping on it once he has the tires warmed up. When those tires are cold they won't grip.
@tombaker2778
@tombaker2778 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered getting a radar/Laser detector? I have the Escort 360 and it has saved my butt several times!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 жыл бұрын
watch my video on the channel of the V1 system i installed
@rafaelgonzalez9135
@rafaelgonzalez9135 2 жыл бұрын
What size are u running? Thinking of using these on my booster 17 and I’m also in ny (Hudson valley). Thanks.
@mrgrey2k
@mrgrey2k 5 жыл бұрын
Most things I’ve read don’t recommend letting the car idle to warm up. Let the car warm up for a minute or so and then drive it at lower RPMs until it’s at an acceptable operating temp.
@MrAdrian13
@MrAdrian13 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Grey I let my 5.0 idle warm up 5 minutes max. Then I start driving at low rpms. My drivers manual says don’t let idle for too long.
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
You are right. It's only necessary to let a long time idle car to warm up if your car has carburettors.
@rexvaughn986
@rexvaughn986 4 жыл бұрын
I currently have these tires on my Veloster R-spec and was planing on swapping for Michelin Pilots sport AS3. Your test was very informative and makes me feel better about diving the 4’s in a pinch. Would you still recommend swapping to a winter or all season tire for prolonged winter use? Trying to prevent cracking and excessive wear.
@warc8us
@warc8us 3 жыл бұрын
While this is a cool test, you do risk damaging the compound driving these hard anywhere below about 40F degrees. If you have to deal with winter I would consider the AS3's or Continental's DWS tires.
@cdres74
@cdres74 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. I am not sure they are superior to all of the summer tires as there are a few that are just better in the dry summer days. However, for "all around" these might just be the best you can get at the moment. Everything I see about them seems to be that they are great in the rain, great when it is cooler and just generally an awesome all around tire.
@ADDONRACER
@ADDONRACER 5 жыл бұрын
Which tire is better then than the ps4s in the dry days?
@gunsmokezz
@gunsmokezz 5 жыл бұрын
@@ADDONRACER nitto, toyo, mickey Thompson
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
@@ADDONRACER Michelin Sport Cup 2 and Continental SportContact 7.
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
@@gunsmokezz You are wrong: For dry weather Michelin Sport Cup 2 and Continental SportContact 7 are better that you mention.
@dougmillner6800
@dougmillner6800 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have issues with the following statement that is on their website? Note: Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle. Flexing of the specialized rubber compounds used in Max Performance Summer tires during cold-weather use can result in irreversible compound cracking. Compound cracking is not a warrantable condition because it occurs as the result of improper use or storage, tires exhibiting compound cracking must be replaced. Any cracking noticed?
@MrTrytostopme25
@MrTrytostopme25 3 жыл бұрын
From the same area 💪🏼
@VtwinGamingKimico52
@VtwinGamingKimico52 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder how much worse they are going to be for me in actually cold temps where i live (got to -60f here in iowa a few years ago)
@raiden000
@raiden000 6 жыл бұрын
you have some balls trying this in the 20s. the dunlop sport maxx tires that came on my wrx are absolutely drive able at 36F, but i wasnt trying any of these kind of antics with them lol. i never drove on them lower than that nor was it wet at the time if that would make a difference. i got the same winter tires as you and love them so far as well btw.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
Dunlops are horrible tires, i never liked one in 30 years trying them, this new P4S is literally like contact cemented to the pavement its insane how good they are in all conditions this was just a test and boy did it surprise me because the Pilot Super Sports or any other Summer tire would have sent me off the road in this test drive. If you have the dough in the spring I highly suggest you put there on your WRX it will blow your mind,
@raiden000
@raiden000 6 жыл бұрын
they seemed good to me but ive been driving on all seasons all my life so i dont have much to compare them to. from what ive read people seem to think they are decent tires, im sure not as good as ps4's but i havent found many people calling them horrible. but yea its something im considering for sure. right now i have the sottozero's on the stock wheels, in spring im gonna get a 2nd set of wheels, might decide to go up to 18" not sure yet but if i do id need new tires anyway as the car came with 17".
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 5 жыл бұрын
Michelin Pilot Sport 4s transformed my Mk3 Focus RS, even more grip with the AWD.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 жыл бұрын
i can imagine, the one i reviewed has Cup2 and i loved those as well but they are not good in the rain or lower temps.
@v60polestar88
@v60polestar88 6 жыл бұрын
Once the Pilot super sports warm up, even on very cold days they do just fine. I've driven in 18 degrees on them and once up to temp they grip pretty good
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
depends how hard you push the car really, the P4S is the most confident tire in all conditions i ever have tested.
@v60polestar88
@v60polestar88 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic I've never had any issue with the PSS once warm. I have AWD so I am sure that matters
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha AWD is cheating man, im referring to high HP RWD cars the PSS is sketchy in the rain and low temps. When you burn yours up you should really consider the P4S your car will be phenomenal with AWD
@sebastiantu6212
@sebastiantu6212 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to find out of my ps4s’s can go skiing with me… I’m in California so there isn’t snow on the road, but it gets cold still around 20-25f at night. I’m more concerned about those who say that it could damage the tires with cracking. Are the ps4s’s victim to this too?
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you are aware but temps below 20°F apparently can damage these tires if they are mounted and supporting the weight of a vehicle. See below: Internal construction of the Pilot Sport 4S features twin steel belts reinforced by a spirally wound hybrid reinforcement. This hybrid Aramid and nylon belt offers a lightweight, high-strength reinforcement above the steel belts to enhance high-speed handling, wear and durability. Specifically tuning the application of the cord filament provides Michelin engineers the ability to balance tension and strength, and a single-ply, polyester cord casing balances trade-offs between ride quality and responsive handling. Note: Tires exposed to temperatures of 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C) or lower must be permitted to gradually return to temperatures of at least 40 degrees F (5 degrees C) for at least 24 hours before they are flexed in any manner, such as by adjusting inflation pressures, mounting them on wheels or using them to support, roll or drive a vehicle.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
this was just a test drive they are no longer on the car in below freezing temps and stored in a heated garage.
@TooslowTA
@TooslowTA Жыл бұрын
Once your summer tires are exposed to 20 degrees they have to be brought up gradually to 40 degrees gradually. If not your tires can be damaged or even crack. Ask me how I know😢
@pareidoliarocks
@pareidoliarocks 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding panic maneuvers behind the wheel. When I drive my Land Cruiser, I don't panic...
@j.delaney5525
@j.delaney5525 2 жыл бұрын
How do the PS4S compare to Pilot Super Sports? I still have the Super Sports on my M5.
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords
@CrazyAboutVinylRecords 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. But I'll stick with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ for the cold months (I live in Connecticut) on my freshly acquired 2016 Performance Package equipped Mustang GT. I got the car last week and it has just 12,400 miles on it. Loving it so far. Put the Michelin A/S 3+ tires on it today so they need some breaking in.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 жыл бұрын
As3+ is a great tire we use them often for customers down this way and I have them for 2.5 years on my Q50RS and they are good all around, just be careful when it gets icy because they will not stop on ice so adjust your driving style when those conditions arise or stay home
@leonjohnson9717
@leonjohnson9717 4 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of the pilot super sport they have discontinued this tire. So I have purchased the new PS4s for my Lexus ISF I will be testing them , I live in a summer state but need good performance for my driving style, I've had great experience with the earlier Pilot super sport it never let me down, when it came the very hard driving so I trust this PS4s is going to be exciting to have on my ISF Lexus the real type. Thanks for the cold weather test in your GT350
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
Michelin pilot Sport 4S tires are better than Michelin pilot Sport 5 and Michelin Sport 4 tires.
@crisj45
@crisj45 Ай бұрын
My next tires on my Miata will be Michelin Pilot Sport All season even though I live in Texas, I will be using the Miata on all year roadtrips.
@germanicus7880
@germanicus7880 5 жыл бұрын
Temps are one thing but New York winters include snow and ice Where you WONT be getting any traction.
@kippwilborn7399
@kippwilborn7399 4 жыл бұрын
Hoping no one with all seasons or not will drive a GT350 in the snow. lol
@CrackBerryAddict
@CrackBerryAddict 6 жыл бұрын
Have you had any issues with the tire's rubber compound cracking at these temperatures? Michelin says that the compound could crack when the tires are exposed to temperatures below 20 degrees Fahrenheit. The next few nights near me are supposed to have a low temperature of 23 degrees Fahrenheit.
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
Jake B nope only on car for 48hr been stored in heated garage since no issues just did video to test them out in these temps and i could not break them loose
@kcimages5157
@kcimages5157 5 жыл бұрын
Mich told me 43 degrees .
@kevinrichardson2047
@kevinrichardson2047 5 жыл бұрын
I live in New York, my summer tired cracked up very bad due to running them all their winter on my BMW M4
@hydevanbrutton1516
@hydevanbrutton1516 5 жыл бұрын
should I go with ZP's ( runflats ) on my c6 corvette? I live in the Midwest and like to take it out even if the temps are below 40 degrees, as long as there are is no snow. Currently have goodyear eagel f1 emts….. Debating between Pilots or A/S, vs runflats, vs 4s.
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
Runflats tires for tractors...My Mini car had serie runflats tires and... And I hated them ! . I switch to Michelin Sport 4 ( with Runflats ).
@trruble9755
@trruble9755 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys just fitted my 17 R8 v10 plus with these. Loving them but have only been driving on days that are in the 45 plus weather range. Thing is I live in Toronto and most days the weather is below 40. I keep getting told by people that these tires will crack in the winter. I’ve had Pirellis on all my cars and never had one crack ever on me regardless of weather. Just curious if anyone knows if these Michelin’s are more sensitive or if people were just talking theoretical to me. Obviously smarter to have winters and I agree, but I drive this car on dry sunny days only in the winter. Any insight would be appreciated. Btw these tires are insane in terms of grip.
@mxngxchxngx
@mxngxchxngx 7 ай бұрын
Im suuuuuuuper late lol but how where they? I live in Washington so coldness isnt as severe as in Toronto. Dont plan on driving it much during cold but dont have a insulated garage to store it to so I wanna know if they will actually crack.
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 5 ай бұрын
My main concern driving with PS4S tires in winter temps below -10*C is that the tires will lose traction and slide and also it will damage the tires since they are too cold/brittle. Is that something you've experienced?
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 5 ай бұрын
watch my last video on these tires on the Camaro ZL1 1LE, they are not designed for winter but will safely get you home and make your car usable as long as there is no snow and ice on the ground.
@f1f278
@f1f278 6 жыл бұрын
Hey arent you comparing older used PSS to brand new PS4S? Brand new will always be more complaint . I ask because im running PSS but i too noticed they have become harder and slip when you get on it 50% worn. Im in LA and its garaged all the time but still the tires just get older and harder in age... would be good to know what the PS4S fairs at 50% used...
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
Not really i drive brand new cars each week with PSS, the P4S is a far better tire in every category and this last test even proves that below recommended temps it still sticks better than every other tire in the category. Consider upgrading if you decide to go with new wheels or wait for the OEM sizes to eventually come out for the P4S
@f1f278
@f1f278 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic thanks!
@cjc4765
@cjc4765 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a set for my GT but I'm in Miami. Does the sign at 12:17 say "Sprain Brook pkwy"? If it does, I remember when it ended at Central Ave ( way back in the day). We use to take the Bronx River to Central Ave to Nathans. I almost bought a new 1967 Shelby at White Plains Ford( but dad didn't like the price even though I was paying) It was a whopping $7200 back when a new Caddy was $5500. I ended up with a 68 GTO ( lemon) new it was $3800 ( no grampa jokes plz-:)
@ronlk46
@ronlk46 6 жыл бұрын
They also say, “Allow to soak for 1 minute, then agitate with brush. Rinse off with pressure washer”. All of which you mentioned in your videos while using and testing other wheel and tire cleaners!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
try it out let me know how it works, but after fixing my brake squeal last night and seeing what wheel cleaners did to my Brembo hardware things will change moving forward so il show everyone in a few days when i edit that video.
@ronlk46
@ronlk46 6 жыл бұрын
Auto Fanatic For sure! I’m going to start with 4:1. But directions also say, “Dilute the product to your desired strength”. Will take photos. Anxious to see how it cleans and foams using the Solo.
@Shelbyville16
@Shelbyville16 Жыл бұрын
What are on the front, 315’s?
@totljag1
@totljag1 3 жыл бұрын
Do they pick up another of rocks ?
@r32446
@r32446 4 жыл бұрын
Given I have no choice, would you do Perelli P Zero or Michelin SS?
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 4 жыл бұрын
SS do not do the P Zeros they are terrible. I am going to do the same SS swap on my Alfa Romeo in OEM sizes because the 4s do not come in the right sizes
@Sir--gx1wv
@Sir--gx1wv 4 жыл бұрын
Have those on my xjr and it sucks during Ohio winters. No one makes a 255/30/r21front 285/30/21rear wintertire to my knowledge smfh. If they do please let me know. Can’t even drive through a little snow without doing donuts.
@Viettzz
@Viettzz 5 жыл бұрын
I just installed 2 x Pilot Sport 4S on my Front Lexus IS 200T Fsport today. Still running the Pilot Super Sport in the Rear though. Should I just replaced them with the Pilot Sport 4S as well? Is the 4S really a lot better than the Super Sport? th9
@mdev8846
@mdev8846 Жыл бұрын
In wet climate Michelin Sport 4S is better, but in dry summers Michelin Super Sport is better.
@fizywig
@fizywig 5 жыл бұрын
my rear wheels on my m5 need changing, can i fit 4s tyres while having super sports in front?
@vm5358
@vm5358 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have MPSS on my rears and MP4S up front on an M3. No issues
@LittleRockStarSTL
@LittleRockStarSTL 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a manual 2019 Hyundai Veloster Ultimate Turbo, one step under the N. My car came with these tires. We had a snowmageddon here in St. Louis this past weekend and with just a little bit of snow on the ground I was sliding everywhere. I found out that evening that these tires are summer tires and are not supposed to be used under 40° or in snow, which the dealership did not tell me. I'm buying all season tires today for the winter until spring.
@peterparker9444
@peterparker9444 6 жыл бұрын
We get really bad winters here in Ontario between 12-24+ inches on some heavy snow falls so as for using the Michelin Pilot A/S 3's for the winter I use that for my summer tires! I purchased the Michelin X-Ice Xi3's which are rated the best winter tires for many years but trust me it's not a great match for the S550's as in everything except for snow it's awesome and really scary in heavy and even freshly laid snow so save yourself the money! I then went with Bridgestone Blizzak's and even though I don't like the road noise and MAJOR gas consumption this thing is not good at it will give you the safety and confidence to drive in the snow with our S550 that Michelin cannot give me with their XIce Xi3's. I've gone through 8-12+ inches of snow with this car and have never gotten stuck and I work in a back road that the city takes least priority in cleaning. Be warned that the Blizzak's with drink your gas like there's no tomorrow but having the ability to drive this car with confidence in the snow I don't give two shits if I'm almost paying double in gas consumption for safety! The bEST all season I used was the new Michelin Premiere AS. I didn't even use winters on my Honda Accord and went all year long using the Michelin Premiere AS and it's awesome, you should compare the 4S to the Premiere's and I can guarantee you it's the better tire between the 2!
@autofanaticcars
@autofanaticcars 6 жыл бұрын
I drove on 3 very bad NY winters on Blizzak LM32 and the car was awesome, 15 GT PP.
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