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AutoGuiding Tutorial
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Күн бұрынMentioned Links
ASCOM: ascom-standard...
Skywatcher ASCOM Drivers: skywatcher.com...
PHD2 Guiding: openphdguiding...
My AutoGuiding Equipment
Omegon 60mm Microspeed Gudiescope
Altair GPCAM2
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:30 What is AutoGuiding?
01:26 Necessary Equipment
01:53 How does it work?
02:17 Method 1
02:54 The Software: PHD2
04:13 Setup
05:20 Method 2
07:14 Tips for improvement
08:02 FAQ
09:07 Outro
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Equipment
Scope: Omegon 102/714 APO
Mount: Skywatcher HEQ-5 Pro (Beltmodded)
Imaging Camera: ZWO ASI 294 MC PRO
Guidescope: Omegon Microspeed 60mm
Guide Camera: Altair GPCAM2
Filters: Astronomik CLS CCD / IDAS NB1
Software on Laptop:
-Astrophotography Tool
-PHD2
-PlateSolve2
Editing Software:
-AstroPixelProcessor
-PixInsight
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#Astrophotography #AutoGuiding #PHD2
@compubyte2010 Жыл бұрын
I wish to THANK YOU .. I watched this video. cuz it explained how to do something in under 10 mins. WITHOUT taking 25 mins. ( folks seem to like to make long videos and waste airtime .. ) .. but finally.. someone who just says it. without all the hoopla
@JohnDoe-ze8wy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this outstanding tutorial Tim. As a person going from visual to astrophotography , it is very instructive, easy to watch and well done.
@NMagturo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim for another informative video. Clear Skies! Narrie
@AstroAddict 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@catchingphotons 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tim! Thanks for this "simple approach" video about PHD2! Will be very useful for beginners! Great job! Clear skies! Chris
@RubenG24 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Definitely helped me a lot!
@danjensen9425 3 жыл бұрын
Another phd2 video , many are out there but I pulled all my hair out trying to get it fingered out . Then I found Beginners guide to ascom by Hogarth. It was because I didn’t install the right drivers . I first did a windows update that took nearly 3 hours then updated Java . I have a cgem2 Mount , asi 120 mm mini camera , 2 guide scopes 50 mm for spacecat , 60 mm for celestron C8 and my wife’s laptop. I had to install , ascom platform 6.5 , asi camera drivers 1.0.4.3 also asi drivers V3.0.0.9 , celestron telescope and focuser 6.1.7350 and of course PHD2 V22.69 for Windows . But I have to say every video I learned something. Yours is one of the better ones . You are good at explaining things so thank you for your hard work and sustained effort to help us out . Now here in Northern California we are burning up with the worst fire season on record . It’s so smoky you can’t see the sun . Two new moons will pass with no night sky . Clear sky’s everyone.
@user-zx7ut9wr4v 3 жыл бұрын
Respect from Korea. This video is really helpful. Thank you 😊
@sergep5563 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, thanks for the video - helps a lot to "dehaze" the cables connection problem - I guess because of my age :) I am very confused about the ways to connect and control the mount - an HEQ5 Pro - with guide camera, handcontrol, laptop, what cables to use and how to setup correctly all the softwares so that they work flawlessly.The video was really helpful but I will keep studying. Clear skies
@astrobeardimage 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one. Thanks Tim! May your skies clear.
@willissutherland8516 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim...Your are a Godsend for us Astrophotography NEWBIEs...Appreciate The Style of your Presentation...and yes I did start out with a Pen and several Pages...Thanks Again...
@tedkalriess7593 3 жыл бұрын
Wow great vid - thanks!
@AstroBenni 5 ай бұрын
sehr gutes Video ! i like. gute erklärt !
@Wheeljack678 3 жыл бұрын
I have an EQ6-R Pro and an EvoStar 80DS on the way so I found this video very useful. Thank you for this.
@quentinvaughan7640 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent - thanks! I always learn from your videos. My two additional suggestions are 1. run the guiding assistant (under tools in PHD2) and 2. pay attention to your cable routing - I was getting some strange glitches and it seemed to be from trailing cables.
@Thantifax 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has been meaning to upgrade to a GOTO mount, this video is perfect! Thanks a bunch
@DanielSuh 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an Orion Mini Deluxe auto guide but haven't had the chance to try it on my mount (Orion Sirius). This is exactly what I needed, method 1 & 2. I will try first with method 1 then progress to method 2. Thanks much.
@Nice2Much 11 ай бұрын
Klasse Video, Tim !!! Viele Grüße aus Osnabrück… Sascha
@texdoms 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great and outstanding video. This is exactly what I needed. You rock Tim! Cheers.
@seanmolony-redstickastro238 3 жыл бұрын
Calibrating on stars to high in the sky can give you a poor calibration because of a lack in star movement. When this happens try finding a star lower in the sky in the quadrant you will be shooting in and do your calibration there. Then just Plate solve back to your target.
@bobbaemel4110 2 жыл бұрын
Great video tutorial!!!
@AstroAddict 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@TheZ3roCool 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, will enjoy watching this...just got my NEQ6 and 400mm lens down to 0.5-0.6 RMS tweaking settings and putting in a Rail Kit mod on the mount that allows better PA (More Precise adjustment of the altitude bolt).
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@cucubits 3 жыл бұрын
Small correction. You actually can use dithering with the 1st option too and you don't need a computerized goto mount. Example: you can use something like a Skyguider Pro and you can dither (RA only).
@willissutherland8516 3 жыл бұрын
Tim...I understand you give Private Lessons...Where and When?.....Ha! I wish! But Then again "I WISH UPON A STAR"
@willissutherland8516 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again, Tim
@JamesEscobar 3 жыл бұрын
I know I am late to this party, but this is just the sort of information I'm looking for! Great presentation, easy to follow, subbing is a no brainier! 👍👍👍👍👍 Thanks for all you do! I will pass it on!
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@kenndoll99 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, that was really helpful.
@wanderingquestions7501 3 жыл бұрын
Every experienced Phd2 user would explain to a new user, to get in the habit of starting w your scope pointing at the celestial equator and the meridian; closer the better. Then you should start with the calibration. FOLLOWING the calibration run the Guider Assistant for 10 minutes or more (this learns long frequency error in the mount) and it recommends the settings to be applied to your Phd2. then guide. If guiding isn’t good, do all that again. You should guide at least 30 minutes while making no changes to Phd so you get a starting baseline. Know where Phd2 is writing it’s logs. If you need any help everyone that knows anything about Phd will ask for your log file. Download the free PHDLogViewer and learn to read your log file yourself. Phd has an extensive manual and docs on analyzing your performance . Read the manuals. If you need help goto PhD’s official Google forum; have your log file ready to upload. Find the link at phd’s homepage. one doesn’t solve guiding problems by pushing aggression. Finally don’t overload your mount. Your equipment should weigh in at about half the payload of your mount’s capacity. This allows the mount to provide fast adjustments.
@davidemancini7853 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on mate, this is text book👍however i di calibrate for the last 2 years at a meridian/equatorial line, it works for cuple of time then it start to go balistics, i will try now to calibrate every time at the target, will see if make any difference🖖
@wanderingquestions7501 3 жыл бұрын
Davide Mancini .... at the meridian allows calibration and the Guide Assistant the most neutral position to work from, then as you say you can recalibrate on your target but at this point Phd has been tweaked buy the meridian Guide Assistant. If it was working and tanked one wonders what’s up. My mount was guiding great and then went to crap. Found out a bit of end-play worked into my RA axis
@keyswitches9269 Жыл бұрын
4:00 I'm late to the party but did no one else notice this? haha I'm laughing so hard
@mosesrodriguez1494 4 ай бұрын
Will you please provide an interconnection block diagram of Method 2. Thank you
@cyrilt9331 26 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing this video it's the best i've seen about this topic. I have a question: are the guide motors included in the mount pack (when it is motorized) or are they an additional feature linked to the guidescope? Thanks!
@AstroAddict 19 сағат бұрын
There are no extra guide motors, the commands from the software go directly to the two RA and DEC motors. So yes, they are included :D
@mikebenengtouncry3613 3 жыл бұрын
hi astroaddict so im getting the eq6r pro and im honestly thinking of just doing the first method.... do you think its a good idea? my optics is a 1000mm 8" astrograph btw (:
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
You should go for method 2 with such a good mount. It's not that much effort
@mikebenengtouncry3613 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict hiii yes i was thinking about it earlier. problem is i have a macbook. but i was able to make a deal with my sister to use her windows pc haha. i downloaded all the drivers and i got the cable in my cart. thank you so much for making the video, ngl it was so helpful
@GrowingAnswers 3 жыл бұрын
So with that scope (714mm) and that camera sensor size (MFT), your effective focal length is about 1428mm. I am really surprised that you could get up to 2 minute exposures without autoguiding at that magnification
@rainerjehle2522 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained for me the guiding worked well the first time only had to make a few settings now it's going great. Schade dass du keine Videos nicht in deutsch machst hättest viele Fans
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Mehr als wenn ich das in Englisch mache?
@rainerjehle2522 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict Einen Versuch so parallel auf Deutsch würde ich mal testen. Der Daniel Nimmervoll hat in einem Jahr auch neue 10000Abonneten . Deine Videos sich auch toll erklärt 😁mein Abo hättest du 😄
@felixalmeida4429 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. Pretty good stuff! I'm struggling to make my Celestron NexStar 8SE to autoguide. I know you also have one, maybe you could make a quick video about that? 😁
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
You know that i have one? From where, because i don't have one
@megamegamegafish 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim!
@woldsweather 3 жыл бұрын
I've focused the guidescope with a Bahtinov mask so its as focused as it can be.
@IsbelG 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. I think that you made a mistake in the ST4 method. When you connected the mount you choose Ascom instead of on-camera. Is it ok?
@cosmoscarl4332 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to get rid of the RJ 12 cable and just use the mount cable but I can never connect except in on camera mode with the rj12 cable. Each time I enter the comm port number and try to connect it says the port has to be named. I have the older model Altair mono guide scope. Don't know why they sold me the old version except that maybe the newer version was over my stated budget. This shouldn't make a difference, should it? Can you clarify the procedure for getting rid of the phone cable? (RJ 12)
@funcesco4202 2 жыл бұрын
Danke man
@jzk9110 2 жыл бұрын
i have a question if i have the telescope like celestron nexstar 5se and its originally has remote control to determined it for specific body so do i need guide scope and mount for it?
@daniberkvens8167 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you could dither your images using the on camera PHD2 mode as well?
3 жыл бұрын
Same confusion. I have Sky Guider pro. It's not a computerized goto mount. Even that can dither, albeit only in RA axis.
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
The problem being that 'dither only RA' will still induce bayer noise
@robertovolpini9359 3 жыл бұрын
hi Tim, nice tutorial, I’m using PHD2, mount EQ5 (self-made motorised) ZWO 120mc-s guiding camera and newton Skywatcher 150/750, I have some trouble in DEC backlash minimising time, I cannot stay below 10 seconds, do you reach better values? do you have any tips to improve this bad performance? thanks i’m advance 😉 ciao Roberto
@pionneerr 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, thanks so much for such great video . I came to your channel as Recently i have started the AP hoppy with a DSLR , zoom lens and Eq mount (heq5 but from orion) and guide cam. And because i live in an Arabic country which the AP is almost unknown and i am struggling at how to connect the Stelleruim/CDC with eqmod /ascom , st4 guiding or pulse guiding setting. And how to connect all with APT . So may i ask you to make a detailed video about not anly the wiring connections but also all the software ( how the eqmod speaks with PHD2 and how to set the guiding / st4 or pulse)as i not able to figure this out . I much appreciate if you help me at this . I am using the ST4 cable and the rs232 via hand controller . What setting should i put for the eqmod to enable the guiding and how to integrate everything to work with APT to shoot and dither, what is the waiting time for dithering I am sorry for my bad english , but I have great hope that you and your simple style may guide me. Thanks so much and sorry for my long comment
@gavin5326 3 жыл бұрын
New scope? Great video I still haven't gotten a chance to get my mount guiding good, too many clouds😭😭
@pmoat 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Deep_Astro 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, can you tell me please tell me the order of the coloured cables inside the rj12 as I want to create my own, couldn’t find a ready designed one in my country. Thanks
@AstroAddict 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got this one: www.astroshop.eu/data-cables/pegasusastro-eqdir-usb-stick-for-skywatcher-mounts-with-rj45/p,61889 8 poles, grey-orange-black-red-green-yellow-blue-gold I use it for direct connection between PC and mount, without HC
@orionnebula3487 2 жыл бұрын
Does the focal length of the guide scope matter? Which focal length should I buy and why?
@AstroAddict 2 жыл бұрын
In theory, it does matter. But I've already managed to guide a RC with 1370mm focal length with a small 50/240 guide scope. A small one is enough for most setups, if the mount can handle the payload
@akacagen 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to allign the guide scope with the mount scope so they are both looking at the same object?
@jameslincs 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 👏👏👏
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@RigoFromSpain 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim , excellent video, one questio, do you always take 2 seconds with guiding camera ?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it depends on the seeing of course. It might be counterintuitive, but I think strong scintillation needs less exposure time, since it will be averaged faster. But I don't bother changing it as long as it works
@tekn0lust 3 жыл бұрын
Where to find or how to call the cable for ASCOM w rj11 on one end and old skool serial on the other?
@davebillybish 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video Tim showing the two methods of autoguiding. I have just bought the DIGITUS USB to SERIAL Converter which looks very like yours and I'm hoping it will shorten my ridiculously long serial cable setup, that is x1 lynx astro serial 5m and a Synscan Dsub to USB adapter cable 1m. that I have. The DIGITUS part Amazon has sent is only USB 1.1. Would you mind saying if yours is 1.1 or Usb 2? Thanks
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, sorry. Bought it ages ago and ditched the packaging
@davebillybish 3 жыл бұрын
Ok not to worry, they replaced the usb 1.1 with a usb 2.0 very quickly. Its well made and just over 10 quid. Not bad.
@Rob_1472 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@RalphBidner 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Tim 👍 But i have one tip for you ;) don't play with the values in the bottom to get a better graph... someone with less knowledge can mess everything up while changing the settings. Try the "Guiding Assistant" which is included in PHD2... it will check everything (even bad polar alignment) and then tell you how to change or autocorrect the values. That's really push here dummy 😂 Do you know Stellarmate or Astroberry? Both are OS for an Raspberry Pi running Ekos. Take a look, no need for an laptop anymore outside ;)
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I got it working perfectly at 0.6" total error, and tuned the RA down to 35%
@texdoms 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, great video Tim. Thank you for that. I had one question, if auto guiding is so dead on every time, why limit yourself to 3 minutes as you were showing in your photos? Why not going for 10 or even 20 minutes of exposure? 🙏
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I could of course do that. But if you live in a lot of lightpollution, there is almost no difference between 5min and 15 min (Personal experience). And each sub is much more susceptible to satellites
@texdoms 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict making perfect sense. Thanks
@taraswertelecki3786 2 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict Not to mention airplanes.
@edwinsanchez1167 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim! I just got HEQ5, I was able to connect directly to the mount by passing synscan controller, I had to use eqmod but can’t seem to get phd2 to work as it gives me a cant move star when calibrating, am using apt with ascom poth with no issues I have to use st4 cable for now, sucks! Any idea what I can try? The skywatcher driver only works if I have with synscan controller. Thanks and glad you are back from school work😬👍
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend using the handcontroller, because it's guaranteed to initialize properly. If you don't want to do that, maybe contact some people over at eq-mod.sourceforge.net/tutindex.html
@nicholastedford9177 3 жыл бұрын
Tim, I'm currently using an Orion Thin OAG on my Celestron 8se but keep having issues and have never been able to get it to work. I'm thinking about moving to a guide scope with my ASI120mm mini and using my f6.3 focal reducer to make my FL 1250. whould this work with the 60mm guide scope or do i need to go ahead and get the 70mm one?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the OTA version of the scope?
@woldsweather 3 жыл бұрын
I can't see any star on my black screen on PHD2
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the guide scope is not in focus, have you tried using some extensions? Some 60mm scopes need quite a backfocal length
@enriquebechet1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, I have heq5, trying to get another bigger imaging train. What is your imaging train payload? What numbers do you get guiding. Thanks
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
About 7 to 8 kilos
@woldsweather 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm plugging the eq cable into the mount (EQM-35) then does this mean I cant use the synscan app and if not how do I goto a target?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
The SynScan App? Which app do you mean?
@woldsweather 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict The Android app that replaces the synscan handset when you use wifi on the mount.
@TigerL2925 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a purchase link or a name for the ST4 to USB cables, thanks.
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Search for EQ Mod Cables. But those need a EQ Mod Dirver on your PC aswell. But you can ditch the Handcontroller
@TigerL2925 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict okkay thanks very much, appreciate it!
@llamarvasquez1803 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was waiting for this. I have 2 questions? Have you heard of Eqmod and Pec recording for guiding? My next question Is.. I keep reading on forums to calibrate on a star 20° from the celestial pole then slew to the southern part of the sky And calibrate on another star in that area or something is that true? Thanks again
@TheZ3roCool 3 жыл бұрын
I have read this also...I did try it but it did not seem to help that much...now just calibrate near target (Or not even bother) go to target and start Guiding. Seems fine!
@wanderingquestions7501 3 жыл бұрын
You need to start on the meridian and celestial equator..... read their manuals
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
How come that I never did this, and have 0.8" guiding? Unnecessary complicated, nothing for a beginner
@llamarvasquez1803 3 жыл бұрын
AstroAddict I have an EQ-R pro mount my numbers range 0.8 - 0.9. after doing the Eqmod pec recording Which then is stored on to the Eq-r pro mount. my numbers range from 0.5 - 0.6 it’s a pretty cool give it a try🔭
@wanderingquestions7501 3 жыл бұрын
AstroAddict Shows what you actually know about Phd2
@qwertyu2387 3 жыл бұрын
Why my calibration icon remains yellow despite calibration completed? I have no direct connection (method 2). The information about guide scope, the camera, pixel size are provided and yet calibration thing remains yellow instead turning green after calibration. Any ideas?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the dark library set?
@qwertyu2387 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict yes.
@Joshroses 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can you use method 2 with a SW AZ GTI without the hand controller and just the synscan app and smart phone?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
You want to take images with an Alt-Az mount?
@Joshroses 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroAddict I recently just ordered that mount. I plan to get the wedge to convert it to an EQ mount. The problem with the AZ GTI is it has no polar scope so the only way to align it is through a computer. My question in relation to your video is how can I make the mount communicate with the computer (method 2) if it does not have a hand controller to (unless i have to buy 1).
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
You can use an EQ Mod cable, but that's with serial to USB, for use with a pc. I don't know how to connect that to a smartphone
@knightclan4 3 жыл бұрын
Great into music
@benjaminkrosse899 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm sitting here using Ekos with the internal guider on default settings. Just activate dithering and hit the autoguide button.
@TheZ3roCool 3 жыл бұрын
Not seen EKOS, looks interesting!
@benjaminkrosse899 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheZ3roCool Yes, it's my first choice. I always wonder why so few people use it. If you are familiar with a Raspberry Pi you should really try Astroberry. It's really the most convenient solution I tried. www.astroberry.io/
@ThatsMyCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried it at least 5 times. Simply cannot get it to connect with all my devices. HEQ5, ZWO cameras and EAF. I suspect something to do with my laptop, not the software. But other programs connect without isuse.
@benjaminkrosse899 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatsMyCoffee I can confirm it runs without problems. I have the same setup. Latest version and Indi-driver are installed?
@ThatsMyCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminkrosse899 Are you on a Mac?
@MexximusUK 3 жыл бұрын
Tuneeeee
@aerozg 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, i guess method #2 will not work with the Star Adventurer, shame.
@yo9hnhradio 3 жыл бұрын
Hold on did you just wrote "Starlink is great" under the profile name?
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
Did I, or did I not? We will never know
@Stefaon 3 жыл бұрын
Je cherche une vidéo en français. Je trouve une vidéo avec un titre et un résumé en français, je clique sur la vidéo : elle est en anglais.
@AstroAddict 3 жыл бұрын
The change in title language is made by KZfaq, not by me.
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