Porsche 911 GTS T-Hybrid Review: The 911 Is Now Part-Electric!? | 4K

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17 күн бұрын

Rory heads to the race track, and the road, to test the new Porsche 911 GTS T-Hybrid, which uses a larger petrol engine, alongside an electric motor and electrified turbos to improve power. But is it still a true 911?
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@ChadWilson
@ChadWilson 15 күн бұрын
The slow mo shots of Rory fondling the engine and battery pack...classic. LOL
@firekrave1
@firekrave1 15 күн бұрын
That drift transition to the targa tho!
@jermainen7846
@jermainen7846 15 күн бұрын
That was mad 🤣
@philipf2705
@philipf2705 15 күн бұрын
If i had this kind of money, this is EXACTLY what i would buy. Great reviews Rory, keep them coming i'll watch them all.
@neelkrishna
@neelkrishna 15 күн бұрын
I’d get an M8. So much more presence
@adamn.3921
@adamn.3921 15 күн бұрын
Exactly
@philipf2705
@philipf2705 15 күн бұрын
@@neelkrishna if you don't care about driving dynamics and want a boat to cruise around it. I do love the M8, don't get me wrong....
@ibrahimhesenli8442
@ibrahimhesenli8442 15 күн бұрын
@@neelkrishna idk man porsche is much more beautiful and drives better
@sveeny
@sveeny 15 күн бұрын
@@philipf2705 I absolutely agree concerning the M8. It's actually quite a boring car. But if you're so concerned about driving dynamics, why not get a GT3 touring with the 4L naturally aspirated. It costs about the same and is infinitely more emotionally rewarding.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 15 күн бұрын
Cooled wireless phone charger?!? Now we are living in the future!!
@R03333
@R03333 14 күн бұрын
Reinventing the wheel to me😂 just put a wire in
@WinkerPack
@WinkerPack 14 күн бұрын
It’s a game changer along with the gooch cooler
@Future-Classic-Comics
@Future-Classic-Comics 14 күн бұрын
@@WinkerPack Watchu talking about Willis ;)
@Cyrribrae
@Cyrribrae 13 күн бұрын
​@@R03333it's better with a wire, but same problem. Fast charging makes heat. Phones, EVs alike. You need to cool them actively to get really fast speeds (and better longevity).
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 7 күн бұрын
​@@Cyrribraeit's almost as if charging something with a physical connection is 10× more effective
@EJBurgs
@EJBurgs 15 күн бұрын
I do not mind the hybrid at all, it was bound to happen, but man I wish they kept the analog dial
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 14 күн бұрын
For goodness sake. That's the one thing that irks me about my GTS, that dial is out of place in a modern car. Thank God they've binned it. Now get over yourself.
@roi354
@roi354 14 күн бұрын
@@mauricetoussaint7283 Nope, totally disagree. The analogue dial should have remained, as should the turny fake key starter thingy. The fact that the analogue dial is actually stepper motor controlled is irrelevant, it's how it looks on the cluster even when the car is switched off.
@karl07777
@karl07777 12 күн бұрын
of course they will offer it. at $10,000!
@jclar3565
@jclar3565 11 күн бұрын
Rangely boat canoe😊😊😊
@citizenkane2836
@citizenkane2836 8 күн бұрын
@@mauricetoussaint7283 dislike
@wsmith3549
@wsmith3549 15 күн бұрын
Indeed, the car is quite nice. The shirt steals the show in this episode. Rory, keep doing your thing.
@Future-Classic-Comics
@Future-Classic-Comics 14 күн бұрын
Rory the Mature persons Matt Watson. No childish gimmicks, and real world car reviews/consumer advice.
@user-kb3jh5bl9o
@user-kb3jh5bl9o 14 күн бұрын
Matt willll never grow up
@user-tr9rl3jz2j
@user-tr9rl3jz2j 6 күн бұрын
Matt is pretty annoying when you get older, just watch his review of the new Bugatti with the CEO, he acts like a clown and it’s so cringe
@nautica12jet
@nautica12jet 15 күн бұрын
It’s a single turbo
@fun364
@fun364 12 күн бұрын
He was referring to the base model which still uses 3.0 twin turbo engine.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 15 күн бұрын
1.9 kWh sounds like it would be plenty for a mild hybrid system so long as the battery can charge and discharge very quickly and do so without damaging the battery i.e. it would need a very long cycle life. TBH it seems like a super capacitor would be better for this job but they take space and are heavy (relatively). A 1.9kWh battery, if discharged in say 2 minutes, could output 1.9/(2/60)=57 kW so if the battery can charge relatively quickly from the turbo and then discharge quickly when on the throttle it could still gave a very healthy burst of energy. It's obviously not designed to drive solely on the battery, just a boost when on the throttle hard.
@tacodias
@tacodias 15 күн бұрын
When @The.JZA thinks he knows better than the nerds at Porsche
@stanvanillo9831
@stanvanillo9831 14 күн бұрын
Lol, bro, I am sure Porsche spent some thinking about this solution.
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 13 күн бұрын
@@stanvanillo9831 I didn’t say I disagree with them. Where did I say that I disagree with them? I literally said in the first sentence that it’s plenty and then I spent many sentences after that explaining why I agree with them. The only place where I gave an alternative was when I said that a super capacitor would probably do a better job because they have a humongous cycle like (10,000+ cycles) but then offered that it may be a weight and space limitation (and perhaps cost). So again, please tell me where I disagreed with Porsche?
@Lwhchris
@Lwhchris 15 күн бұрын
They should reinvent the hybrid naming scheme for this car, its not a hybrid to enchance fuel economoy, its an integrate electric motor system that virtually eliminates turbo lag, and giving instantaneuos power on conditions that require it, sort of like F1 cars.
@srspower
@srspower 14 күн бұрын
Yeah i was going to say something similar. It's not a compromise in any way and it's nothing to do with fuel economy it's about making the best ICE car possible.
@thomasholm-hansen8650
@thomasholm-hansen8650 13 күн бұрын
E-Boost would make more sense, and yes, its completely like F1
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 13 күн бұрын
I am expecting now some other company to say that the electric motor spinning the fan on a radiator makes it a “hybrid” system
@curtisalex456
@curtisalex456 13 күн бұрын
@@aliancemd 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@thomasholm-hansen8650
@thomasholm-hansen8650 13 күн бұрын
@@aliancemd to be fair the Porsche still has an electric motor powering the drivetrain, which makes it a true hybrid. But they should differentiate the wording between hybrid for performance, and hybrid for rage
@kennethawesome
@kennethawesome 15 күн бұрын
The 911 is still the king
@hagestad
@hagestad 9 күн бұрын
of fatness. Its actually 75kg more than previous version. 50kg more is without rear seats.
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 7 күн бұрын
​@@hagestadas opposed to every other new car that isn't?
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan 15 күн бұрын
The best hybrid to come out, Porsche knows their engineering. Just to bad that they lost some analog feel on the inside 😊 Great video Rory
@hagestad
@hagestad 9 күн бұрын
what they do is they copied existing aftermarket hybrid solutions for older 911 (albeit those did not have electric powered turbo)
@David-jw5ro
@David-jw5ro 15 күн бұрын
Rory is without doubt the best ever car presenter in our time.
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 14 күн бұрын
Too arrogant and cocky for my tastes.
@ashleyevans1255
@ashleyevans1255 9 күн бұрын
Chris Harris 👍
@jpkc86
@jpkc86 14 күн бұрын
The slide transition from track to street… dope!!
@denniskara6196
@denniskara6196 13 күн бұрын
The production quality is amazing
@Resist_Oppression
@Resist_Oppression 15 күн бұрын
It's a single turbo, not a twin.
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 14 күн бұрын
It’s not a twin turbo . It’s a single turbo with the e hybrid . Listed in their own marketing . Read
@Resist_Oppression
@Resist_Oppression 14 күн бұрын
@@IReahpZz it's already understood it's a hybrid setup.
@abbey1999
@abbey1999 14 күн бұрын
Wake up Einstein
@fun364
@fun364 12 күн бұрын
He was referring to the base 911 which still uses the 3.0 twin turbo engine.
@supremeetnel7707
@supremeetnel7707 15 күн бұрын
This is what bmw should’ve done
@andytin2823
@andytin2823 15 күн бұрын
That's why BMW M340i already using similar system call "Mild Hybrid" it's so success 😜😜
@duffydon1741
@duffydon1741 15 күн бұрын
@supremeetnel, why do people like you think they are smarter than the people that develop their technology??? Why wouldn’t you think BMW didn’t think about this??? They are doing their own thing and they have their reasons..
@supremeetnel7707
@supremeetnel7707 14 күн бұрын
@@andytin2823 The M5 man… The M5
@WinkerPack
@WinkerPack 14 күн бұрын
@@supremeetnel7707The M5 is probably so dirty that mild hybrid wasn’t enough to keep the emissions down.
@supremeetnel7707
@supremeetnel7707 14 күн бұрын
@@duffydon1741 BMW said they thought of going this route but chose a big battery instead. So its possible to could’ve chose to do it. At the end of the day this is BMW M we’re talking about i don’t think dummies work in that division. nobody is doing their own thing everybody is doing heavy hybrids. Porches is doing their own thing.
@juiceplanet147
@juiceplanet147 15 күн бұрын
I wish the video editor would drop the conversion numbers on the screen. MpH & Hp. 😅
@ibrahimmoss
@ibrahimmoss 14 күн бұрын
Best automotive journalist I’ve watched. On Rory’s recommendation, I would buy anything.
@michalrajnic758
@michalrajnic758 14 күн бұрын
The Targa is gorgeous!
@AbandonedRaven
@AbandonedRaven 15 күн бұрын
Such a cool car and I really love the design of this particular 911. I can’t wait to see more videos on this new engine as well.
@borjastick
@borjastick 15 күн бұрын
Fabulous Rory, well done, great review. I loved this thing from the get go when it was announced and have been playing on their website configurating it ever since. I would go for the Targa. The one thing that was a shock was the economy or lack thereof. My only other distraction would be an Artura so when I win the lottery this week I'll be off to both Porsche and McLaren dealerships immediately.
@chrisharris4223
@chrisharris4223 13 күн бұрын
Damn, those Porsche guys are so clever. Ingenious tech making best use of ‘hybrid’ to make their cars better. I have a Cayman (GTS) and never looked too much at the 911 before but if I could afford this I’d buy it tomorrow, outstanding car.
@K114LED
@K114LED 15 күн бұрын
Your reviews are brilliant.
@MrHighlyEvolved
@MrHighlyEvolved 15 күн бұрын
I'm not a huge Porsche fan as I don't find them very aestheically pleasing in looks or sound, but I have to give it to them that their cars always have a great stance. The wheel gap is always just about perfect. I don't understand why other manufacturers can't do the same.
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 15 күн бұрын
Yeah ferarri should take note
@jermainen7846
@jermainen7846 15 күн бұрын
EU Regs say a cars tyres can't go out further than the arches. That's why we have these horrible plastic sticky out bits on wheel arches. I'm not sure how Porsche get around it.
@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd
@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd 14 күн бұрын
And by the same rules there must be enough space to mount snow chains.
@CHPatriot1291
@CHPatriot1291 14 күн бұрын
Love the option to change the passenger seat from the driver position. Still every waiting for the first car with a sync button to make it match the driver position. Just love the symmetry.
@pierredebug17
@pierredebug17 14 күн бұрын
Previous Targa had a wind noise issue? Is this still the case? Thank you.
@voltgaming2213
@voltgaming2213 14 күн бұрын
Should have had the analog gauges with the instrument cluster being digital for technology,best of both
@peterrichardson9248
@peterrichardson9248 15 күн бұрын
Rory is a great reviewer, fun but sensible. Matt Watson is just too bonkers!
@ruisaraiva551
@ruisaraiva551 14 күн бұрын
Best looking car on the planet. Period. No need to change what´s perfect. Just need to perfect it.
@alexlewis1989
@alexlewis1989 14 күн бұрын
Great video. Question…. Does the E Turbo ever run out of battery? And if so, does that mean you have less power?
@sugarbait
@sugarbait 15 күн бұрын
Fantastic video!
@perfektg
@perfektg 15 күн бұрын
Nice Hawaiian print shirt, Rory!
@elcasho
@elcasho 15 күн бұрын
Great work!
@Kylen-zt5lz
@Kylen-zt5lz 15 күн бұрын
Hi I love your videos
@scott4427
@scott4427 15 күн бұрын
Glad to see some of the development from the LeMans cars finally making its way into production
@justinruggier589
@justinruggier589 5 күн бұрын
Love your passion and your Videos mate ✊🏻
@jahudini
@jahudini 7 күн бұрын
Was thinking about getting this as my next car in a few years, then I saw this guy at the Starbucks, his 911 parked next to my car, and we had a few chat and i checked out the car. Finally decided will wait till the kids get outta the house, its really a one man's car.
@angel_one1259
@angel_one1259 15 күн бұрын
So F1 ditch the MGU-H to attract VW/Audi/Porsche... Now Porsche won't enter F1 then built a car with an MGU-H.
@Mbeat157
@Mbeat157 14 күн бұрын
The GTS is the best 4s and Turbo s combined performance, especially the 991.2 version
@Batman00785
@Batman00785 12 күн бұрын
I like your show a lot ..... as filmmaker I can say this is one of the best show for cars reviews
@rempha
@rempha 13 күн бұрын
professional review , good job!
@tahsin28
@tahsin28 15 күн бұрын
There is great peace in driving a hybrid. You don't feel guilty when u r stuck in traffic on joyrides.
@stanvanillo9831
@stanvanillo9831 14 күн бұрын
I don't think you understand this Porsche Hybrid
@fun364
@fun364 12 күн бұрын
That transition to the targa 👌🏿
@roi354
@roi354 14 күн бұрын
It'll be interesting to see whether the hybrids will be popular. Keen to see how used prices will be on the 992.1 in a year's time.
@Dotherightthing832
@Dotherightthing832 5 күн бұрын
Such a cool man reviewing my dream car. Perfect combo.
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 15 күн бұрын
Thank heavens it still has a engine..."ICE" I bet 992.2 turbo S will run 9.9 on the 1/4
@tweed0929
@tweed0929 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, because without one you would accelerate the new 911 by foot Fred Flinstone-style.
@vindevhunta4905
@vindevhunta4905 14 күн бұрын
I WOULD RATHER DO THAT THAN IT BEING a full EV LIKE THE TAYCAN ....
@DanielSadjadian
@DanielSadjadian 14 күн бұрын
992.1 Turbo S already does the 1/4 mile in 10.0 seconds, so the 992.2 will hopefully be faster than 9.9s.
@jonahkaiguam
@jonahkaiguam 13 күн бұрын
1:21 single turbo...but it's all good...we all make mistakes mate lol. Awesome video...from an awesome car reviewer from THEE AWESOMEST car manufacturer
@forlatagate1
@forlatagate1 15 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure that, unlike other companies porsche design their car around the boot of its respected model, the cars may get longer wider, but the boot remains the same size as the last car
@antoniopiano6781
@antoniopiano6781 10 күн бұрын
Superb car (specially the Targa) and footage... Pity they dumped the analog dial - it would make this Porsche hard to beat. Came here after watching the Emeya on that fabulous german road. Rory take this car there! Great reviews as always.
@garys7828
@garys7828 13 күн бұрын
Not sure digital dashboard progress at all. My analogue dash on my Mondeo is still ok after 20 years. Will that be the case with the Porsche 😮
@Future-Classic-Comics
@Future-Classic-Comics 14 күн бұрын
I like that Rory actually references cars styling, lot's of channels seem obsessed with only the handling, and how it performs on a track, like steve cropley has an obsession for only talking about handling! It's boring!
@hl236
@hl236 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for talking about if and how the battery could run out.
@motohddk
@motohddk 13 күн бұрын
Rory crushing these reviews and driving. This car is a beaut.
@prjackson7802
@prjackson7802 13 күн бұрын
Great video
@SkitPete
@SkitPete 15 күн бұрын
This as good as a Turbo...so whats the forthcoming 911 Turbo S gonna be like...I cant wait
@Under_Construction100
@Under_Construction100 14 күн бұрын
Rory Reid, Henry Catchpole & Mat Watson in the same place? Would have loved a trio review ❤. Three of my most favorite reviewers.
@zer0875
@zer0875 15 күн бұрын
Is it more ecomincal re fuel?
@Bmontepeque11
@Bmontepeque11 9 күн бұрын
This hybrid is a great example of how electricity can aid the performance car, the sports car, I love that this is how the 911 became a hybrid! But I am really sad to see the manual transmission go. Like, really, I would trade those 50 extra hp for a manual. But I also understand this is the way of the future, I wish manuals didn't go away, but if we put that to the side this is an amazing car with WONDERUL engineering and great fun.
@NetMillionaire
@NetMillionaire 14 күн бұрын
Brilliant review bro ❤. I might buy one ☝️ 😊
@lesliecooper3404
@lesliecooper3404 13 күн бұрын
What’s the price of headlight replacement when they get nicked 😅
@ksc8168
@ksc8168 14 күн бұрын
Best Car Channel.
@andrewe868
@andrewe868 13 күн бұрын
What color is that demo car? I love it!!
@christo123
@christo123 9 күн бұрын
Is the sound piped into the cabin, because it doesn't sound like a Porsche at all
@hooligansharma
@hooligansharma 15 күн бұрын
Amazing shirt
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 10 күн бұрын
The T-Hybrid sounds like the fulfillment of the 918's technological trickle down. I may have to double check that as I think 918 may have had very different hybrid system.
@allenh.7373
@allenh.7373 13 күн бұрын
No way in hell I could pull off a shirt like that as well as Rory
@aryanugrahanto5641
@aryanugrahanto5641 14 күн бұрын
transition at 8:30 was sick
@rob-nz6342
@rob-nz6342 15 күн бұрын
I think the new Hybrid systems are good if in the future it leads to Porsche's amazing new active Suspension systems are available in the 911. Currently these systems are only on the Taycan and Hybrid Panamera as they need large amounts of electrical power to operate. So if a 911 Hybrid means those systems can be brought to the 911 I say go for it Porsche!!!
@numbereightyseven
@numbereightyseven 14 күн бұрын
HOW many turbos?
@MD-xb1qw
@MD-xb1qw 15 күн бұрын
I enjoy rowing. through gears. That’ll never change.
@sirgeorgioalastrata4104
@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 15 күн бұрын
i want self driving cars
@BeastModeXCIII
@BeastModeXCIII 15 күн бұрын
plenty of low mileage 2nd hand 911s out there for you then, so porsche couldnt care less about your opinion. especially since you would be another one of the "fans" that voice your support by complaining as opposed to the true loyalists who support the company by Paying for new models upon release.
@MD-xb1qw
@MD-xb1qw 15 күн бұрын
@@BeastModeXCIII I’ve owned 3. A 991 C2, and two 991 GTSs.
@voltgaming2213
@voltgaming2213 14 күн бұрын
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104get in a train mate it’s much better than a self driving car efficient and quiet
@finwaydiddy1977
@finwaydiddy1977 14 күн бұрын
Amazing….. the base C8 should have came with type of power. 500-550hp is the sweet spot for the streets. Great job Porsche.
@rasta8088
@rasta8088 15 күн бұрын
I love this car!
@khairulamrin9178
@khairulamrin9178 14 күн бұрын
When are you planning to review the revuelto?
@mark_staykind1470
@mark_staykind1470 12 күн бұрын
wish you did followup videos on past cars you've reviewed... but not old high mileage cars just the same car but to check if the 1st review still holds now that the new car lustr has faded
@somerandomfella
@somerandomfella 15 күн бұрын
Yo Rory, would it be right to say that the battery tech came from Rimac? Which is a good thing.
@Sxmprxa
@Sxmprxa 2 күн бұрын
If they make a turbo s version it would defo be my fav Porsche
@randallhill7979
@randallhill7979 15 күн бұрын
Amazing car
@stuff6181
@stuff6181 15 күн бұрын
night vision honestly makes so much sense for a track car
@apb3251
@apb3251 15 күн бұрын
24h Endurance racing, makes perfect sense 😂😂
@miguelsampaio6199
@miguelsampaio6199 14 күн бұрын
Hope thath Hybrid tecnology go to other models from VW group like the ne Golf GTI or RS3/RS6
@RedBatRacing
@RedBatRacing 15 күн бұрын
Just take the previous version and bump the boost up a few psi. Job done
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 14 күн бұрын
Crap. Lots of upgrades on the new car. I own a 992 C4 GTS, so very pleased to see the improvements. It's not all about speed, but people like you don't understand that. Just ordered a new GTS with aerokit. Can't wait.
@van123446
@van123446 12 күн бұрын
the speaker amplified noise aside,,, I'm betting on the future for the 911. This Gts comes without back seats, you can have them if you want though. But imagine taking that lump of engine from behind the rear wheels, next subtracting that mass of steel PDK and hybrid motor, gas tank, front battery and replacing it with two or four electric motors all between the front and rear wheel ( perfectly balanced ) all providing 7-800 hp and equal or more torque. Add on torque vectoring at each wheel ( for the awd version ) and with the future or batteries where weight will be cut in half with higher density, well, like I said,, aside from speaker amplified noise. But in truth, fake engine noise is already a thing with EV's. And it can only get better, if that is your thing. Me, I'd take precision, and a lightweight balanced car with unlimited torque any day. And yes I did like the noise my 992 GT3 made while I owned it, and even more with my 458.. Thing is none of us have driven an electric sports car that weighs less than a GT3 with twice the power yet.
@Jtbg80
@Jtbg80 15 күн бұрын
Older gen 911s are so expensive anymore it doesn’t make sense
@MrNickml
@MrNickml 14 күн бұрын
single turbo right ?
@billybla
@billybla 10 күн бұрын
Where is this place?
@corbelius6
@corbelius6 4 күн бұрын
I think Porsche is thinking about Longevity and making it efficient.
@hamdanali2036
@hamdanali2036 15 күн бұрын
can an engineer explain why car top speeds are getting lower? this much power and torque and it is 7mph slower than the sub 500hp ferraro f40, and even 10mph down on the fat e60 M5?
@liquid_metal
@liquid_metal 14 күн бұрын
That new slatted grill is nasty
@routineislethal7096
@routineislethal7096 13 күн бұрын
Holy Stuttgart
@coolaa7
@coolaa7 14 күн бұрын
Ride quality?
@user-hi7qx2iq4j
@user-hi7qx2iq4j 5 күн бұрын
8:29 Transitions was 🔥
@sutats
@sutats 15 күн бұрын
They'll have you for the next drop.
@Og_rinzler
@Og_rinzler 11 күн бұрын
When you having a bad day then watch this and you forget what time,place and why you were having a bad day
@oploupe
@oploupe 14 күн бұрын
Most of the 911s I see are parked outside wine bars. Hybrid setup very useful for this.
@jonathandawe7900
@jonathandawe7900 7 күн бұрын
Nice
@clubdevoiture1618
@clubdevoiture1618 15 күн бұрын
Do people buy the gts to drift and take it out on track..... id rather a lighter car and ditch all the hybrid stuff
@jahvheadgawn
@jahvheadgawn 12 күн бұрын
8:25 top transition
@tngdwn8350
@tngdwn8350 14 күн бұрын
I think the car is great, but I'm a little bit sad they ditched the analog speedometer and the turning starter.
@mauricetoussaint7283
@mauricetoussaint7283 14 күн бұрын
Do you even own a Porsche? I do, a 992 C2 GTS and it's about time they ditched the antique features. The analogue dial made zero sense and looks ugly.
@descendency
@descendency 15 күн бұрын
Why didn't Porsche make it fully electric? Because it's a better track car as a gas powered car or even a hybrid. I'm a huge EV fan, but the weight of an EV is just hard to overcome on a track, which is why the fastest Nuremberg Ring laps are in a 911 GT3RS, not a Taycan Turbo GT, Model S Plaid, Lucid Air Sapphire, etc. I guess you could have gotten a better drag strip car out of an EV, but I'm not sure that's what Porsche wants to sell.
@Mach1n-is-at-lvl-60
@Mach1n-is-at-lvl-60 15 күн бұрын
1:20, careful, this is not a twin turbo engine, now single turbo
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