Aux SENDS and RETURNS, BUSES and GROUPS in Ableton Live 11

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In this video we look at auxiliary sends and return tracks for parallel processing. Ableton also has a grouping feature where you can group your tracks and process them, as if you were sending all of the tracks to a bus. I show you all 4 types of aux tracks and also reveal a way that you can increase your parallel processing options to more than the maximum of 12 return channels. Aux tracks help with organisation, mixing and increased workflow.
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:27 - Groups
3:22 - Bus
5:45 - Sends and Returns
9:55 - Parallel Processing

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@kage-fm 2 жыл бұрын

random tip: compression then reverb = compressed signal with natural, simple sounding reverb. reverb then compression = compressed sound with dynamic, smooshy reverb that reacts to the signal. both are good!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Love it! ✌️

@royallmuzikproductionz Жыл бұрын

Which is better for vocals. I’m just going to start using on vox and want to nail it😁

@johnviera3884 5 ай бұрын

or you can put the compressor after the reverb. And side chain the vocal to the compressor. The compressor will duck the washy verb during the sentences

@ironqueen_osrs 8 ай бұрын

Perfect tutorial, very clear and comprehendible, no unnecessary information, no bs around the information! Love it! thank you!

@BeckySaifMusic 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@sajor 2 жыл бұрын

I always go into these tutorials expecting to quickly turn them off when I realize it’s not at all what I’m looking for, but I could not have asked for more cohesive and clear coverage of what I was after. Thank you! So happy to find this!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Aww thats amazing. Thank you so much for sharing that with me. Gives me hope that I'm doing something right. 😊

@brucemillar 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one! Cheers Becky!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

😊

@RB-vf5px Жыл бұрын

Best video I've seen introducing this topic, informative and concise. Especially returns and the send meter that shows up on each track. Also the last tip on creating a parallel processing (chains) aux track (drum bus) was very cool; demystified a bunch of powerful features in this video.

@julianyon3669 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Love how you simplify these things and make our lives a little easier. Your channel is a true gem for us Ableton newbies. Keep it up!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your comment and feedback! That means a lot to hear and drives me to keep making more content. 🙏

@adamBnEII Жыл бұрын

Great tutorial Becky Summer.

@seancphygital 2 жыл бұрын

I've watched a few videos on this topic and it finally clicked after I watched this one. Thank you!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@BrianOdipo Жыл бұрын

Very good explanation. Thank you.

@SS-ew9yp 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah Becky! Keep that content coming!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

I will! Every day on the grind haha

@5omanatic 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Very useful tip You are a beautiful person

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 😊

@iamsyntact 2 ай бұрын

thank you Becky, great video! here are a couple extra tips I thought of: - you can use a Gate or a Compressor to route audio from any channel to any other by activating Sidechain mode, selecting the track you want to route from, then clicking the preview button (with the headphones) and just leaving it on. this has been super helpful to me for sending audio to multiple different places at once - you can also use parallel processing to have a return track sidechain to its own dry signal! I use this all the time on delays which results in a very clean call-and-response delay effect. all you need to do is group the delay into a rack, create a parallel chain and mute it. then drop a compressor in front of the delay and sidechain it to the chain you just muted. cheers :)

@BeckySaifMusic 2 ай бұрын

Nice! Thanks for sharing :)

@tahiche. Жыл бұрын

Great video!. Really well explained, clear and to the point. Looking forward to more. Thanks! 🙏

@evanmcdoniels 2 жыл бұрын

this is so great, thank you! I had learned in my intro class how to do send/return/buses on Protools (they have you set up the track differently from the get-go) but couldn't figure out the terminology Ableton used for it but now it makes total sense. When I was just self-taught, I always piled a bunch of plugins on each individual track and it got so messy I didn't understand why but then when we learned of these send/returns for effects/compression it's been a gamechanger, thanks for showing the Ableton way, and very cool studio you have too! cheers

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

So glad it was helpful for you. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for sharing your experience. 😁🖤

@rob.elo.music. Жыл бұрын

Thank you! This is exactly the video I was looking for. Very clear and well explained.

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Well that's lovely to hear! Thank you for commenting 😁

@iceman6555 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this Becky, just what i needed

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad you found it helpful! 😊

@aaronengelmann9877 6 ай бұрын

finally. as a Fl studio user switching over it took forever to find a video explaining it thank you

@corinaboho 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic tutorial as usual, I always learn so much from you. Thanks soooo much for sharing your knowledge is such a simple and easy to understand way! 😃

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Yeay! Thanks for checking it out. Love hearing that you're getting so much from the videos. Thanks for the comment :)

@zachariaswolfe Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video! So useful, cleared up a lot of things I was confused about.

@BARBERSHOPP Жыл бұрын

this track reminds me of bomberman hero on 64 and i love it

@TeenyBopped 2 жыл бұрын

smh, i should have watched this video before posting my nonsense. now i gotta go back and tweak. Thanks a lot for the lesson!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Hey that's alright. Here to help. At least you found it!

@Kopfman876 2 жыл бұрын

Such a helpful video! Thank you this was very short, fun and clear!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear you enjoyed it and got what you needed 🤗

@bg1299 2 жыл бұрын

I love that you differentiated between sends, returns, busses and groups :-) I'm sure that new Live users will find it helpful, especially when you explained that parallel processing can be done inside racks as well as via sends and returns. Big up Becky x

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Hey you're welcome. Thanks so much for checking out the video. The parallel processing inside racks is a life saver and greatly frees up return channel space. Big up yourself! ;)

@corelli58 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this very clear video!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Hey you're welcome. Thanks so much for checking it out and for commenting.

@webdev_am Жыл бұрын

Excellent explaination 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thank you so short and clean.

@markardisson2791 6 ай бұрын

finally someone that explains this concept well in ableton! thansksss

@1SainSaiya 2 жыл бұрын

just found out this channel, very useful tutorial ! Grouping will defo help, keep it up Becky , im subscribing

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. Really appreciate the comment and sub. 😁

@khallif6368 7 ай бұрын

The best video about Ableton

@ThePapabull 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Becky very useful

@BeckySaifMusic 10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@Tinto2 2 жыл бұрын

This is helpful, thanks!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome 😊

@synthmania7275 2 ай бұрын

Cheers Becky!! Learned a lot! Thank you for helping some of us get back to basics!! Subscribed!!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the sub

@velazquez1712 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Concise and on point. Thank you!

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad you got what you needed. 😁

@DaKink 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video again!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Awwe thanks man 😁

@Sergio-ee8xd 2 жыл бұрын

wow this was so good, clear, and to the point.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear 💖

@davidhayman9330 Жыл бұрын

Thanks this was very helpful and clearly explained!

@ZabicSolFA Жыл бұрын

I love you.. you are such a mom!

@prodbychrispy 2 жыл бұрын

So thorough, thank you so much for this video!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome 😊

@speckles-ks2ui Жыл бұрын

and i JUST learned more about you Becky 😻

@hectordiaz6379 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, this actually helped me a lot to undestand those terms, can be a little bit tricky.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing to hear how helpful this was for you. Glad you got something from the video. Thanks so much for the comment.

@awaytolivewell 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I had no idea about all this stuff. I've got some really great stuff to play around with. Can't wait for your next vid you are always bringing the interesting stuff.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! You're welcome. Check out my Ableton course as well if you're pretty new to all of this. It will help fast track your learning and get your skills acquired in no time. 😁

@birthdaydog1244 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!! needed a refresher this was great :)

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad I could help 😊

@BLUMUNMUSIC 8 ай бұрын

Video was so awesome!! Thank you :)

@BeckySaifMusic 8 ай бұрын

You're so welcome!

@caraha02 Жыл бұрын

I have watch SO many videos trying to learn this very thing and have YET to see someone just say how to do it. Thank you thank you thank you 🙏

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

@TheLordQueenYo Жыл бұрын

Amazing tutorial :) Thanks ❤

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@GailHerrera 4 ай бұрын

thanks so much! awesome job!

@altbaeb671 Жыл бұрын

Yo thank you this def helped 🙏🙏

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@Chris-ng9vz Жыл бұрын

Wonderful knowledge

@commonbeats 2 жыл бұрын

Yoooo! Love this, thank you! Also that beat is 🔥😱

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you appreciate it 🤘

@Vonnalouchie Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this!

@musicmediaproductions 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😁

@GLRYB2GD Жыл бұрын

Very helpful! Thanks! Gonna have to practice parallel processing a bit.

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a bit of trial and error with parallel but it's worth it when you get it right!

@fliptopmusic Жыл бұрын

Brilliant tutorial :)

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

😁

@aidanjeffers1020 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@etenbroeck 9 ай бұрын

Fantastic video, thank you for your contributions. You have made clear some very confusing terms and concepts! E

@BeckySaifMusic 9 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@xdomm951 Жыл бұрын

Good stuff 👍

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

😁

@noire7084 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@daslukebeats Жыл бұрын

Thank you, this is the vest video explaining this. As an Ableton user it's always been confusing when I watch videos of people mixing with Protools or Logic. Seems like grouping is the way to go!

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Ableton is great 😊

@JohnJCButtigieg 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video this is great and really well explained! I was also wondering how do you get your grid lines to be so bold in Ableton Live? It looks great

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John thanks so much for your feedback. My Ableton has been changed using the options in the Look/Feel tab in the Preferences. 😁

@AlannaSterling 2 жыл бұрын

Oh hi Becky!! KZfaq suggested me to you :o I'm trying to learn how to use sends in Ableton. Thanks for your help!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Well if it isn't an Alanna Sterling original!! 🤸‍♀️😆 Hello lovely. Nice to see you here. 🖤

@TheCelestineProph 3 ай бұрын

Great video. Straight to the point and short. Q: if you GROUP a bunch of (similar tracks - drums) and you want to add an audio effect can you add it to the group named track ( the one with no sounds on it) like you would/ could if you created the old school bus (track)? Thanks.

@RIFTHerc 2 жыл бұрын

Great info!! Don't forget - you can Automate how much signal is being sent to any Return track just as you can automate the input signal amount if, say, a Glue Compressor is on only 1 instrument track.

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this!

@RustyRogear 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Using return tracks there causes delay and phase problems. Parallel processing with the effect rack might solve this

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment! Yes I agree, it's great to have the option to do parallel processing in both the racks and with the return channels in Ableton.

@JunMan 2 жыл бұрын

THANKS

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

😊

@chozilla Жыл бұрын

Does anyone got a good reason why to still configure and use a BUS in Ableton Live when GROUPS are actually the better solution? Effects can be placed on Groups as well even if Becky does not mention it in the video explicitly - the part with the parallel processing could be done on the drum group instead.

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. You can route X amount of signals from different channels into a bus whereas with groups all signals go into them. It's especially useful in the live performance aspect of Ableton. Thanks for the extra info regarding parallel processing in the drum group!

@vanstaden 2 жыл бұрын

explained in the simplest form possible, well done. It gets quite complicated taking this further if we get to sidechaining, synth effects, racks being shifted into a single channel, bus mixes, bus Fx and quick stems. but i figure if they know this, they will figure the rest out rather quick.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Yes I agree

@vanstaden 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic can i remix any song i want and stick it on spotify?

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@vanstaden not on spotify unless you have the copyright owners permission

@vanstaden 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic yea i thought as much. Inc royalty shares and all that....

@bergspot Жыл бұрын

Very Clear, thank you! A sub from me.

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

@kosmo_komputer 2 жыл бұрын

Super helpful thanks. So a group is basically the same thing as a bus. When would you use a Bus instead of a Group? Is it just a visual difference in Ableton? Are there any processes you can do with a Bus and not a Group and vice versa?

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's just a visual difference in Ableton. They essentially do the same thing. Collapsing the group to save screen space is a major benefit to using groups in Ableton. You wouldn't be able to collapse all tracks being sent to the bus. It would be a one by one job. Just depends on how the user prefers to route things - traditionally or 'the Ableton way' 😉

@kosmo_komputer 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic Awesome, thanks!

@mrfish4572 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. However, for me, this was missing the big why. Why and when would I use a group, when would I use an effect on a track and when use a bus or a return. Returns have the huge added benefit that they dont reduce the overall volume when using a dry/wet. Inline effects do.

@jadedragon469 10 ай бұрын

I can insert vsts onto a group track in ableton too though if im not mistaken? Is there a benifit to using a traditional audio track as a bus processing unit or can i just use my vsts on the group buss created with the ctrl G command? Help 😅

@apriljoy6177 2 жыл бұрын

great

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mnagz14 6 күн бұрын

Just to get some clarification, would you get the same result of grouping multiple tracks and using the main group channel as your “bus” as if you were routing the more traditional way of an actual bus channel or would the outcome be different? If I had the same compressor on the old school bus method as well as the group tracks method, would they both end up sounding the same? Thanks in advance for the information!

@electricmoon5402 Жыл бұрын

When using a return track, what are your thoughts on using Send Only vs. using both signals?

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

I tend to use send only for sidechaining. I will use both signals generally so that I have more control over them.

@deanc2000 Жыл бұрын

Is the send pre-fader or post-fader? If pre-fader, pre-effects or post-effects? Can we control these factors?

@jedrzejpjedrzejczak 2 ай бұрын

It is better to use pre fader return track for paralell processing cause you never loose the amount of signal that you send to a return track if you change the value on the fader. Try it and you'll love it

@PanopticMotion 2 ай бұрын

Nice! Using a pre-fader return track for parallel processing gives you more flexibility and control over the balance between the processed and unprocessed signals, as you can adjust them independently without any unwanted level changes caused by fader movements.

@cyranoproducer Жыл бұрын

Great video! Question - what's the difference between adding that Glue Compressor onto the DRUMS Group that you created instead of creating another track and creating a Bus?

@alllovese4syx319 Жыл бұрын

Its about having structure in mixing, not manipulating all instruments in one group but only chosen instruments if you need to and having the ability to change the sound overall if you decide to change in inside the group. If you want to add a different vibe or layer of effects to your mix, you do it with a bus. Each position of an effect has its consequence in an effect rack. It depends on your delivery and wishes on what you want accomplish. But be careful, because you dont want your mixes to sound muddy

@cyranoproducer Жыл бұрын

@@alllovese4syx319 thanks a lot for this! Makes sense and is very helpful. Cheers!

@bipedal_earth_roamer Жыл бұрын

Does a bus track require you to recording to it for the bus effect to be rendered in mixdown or does it do it automatically during export?

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Rendering options on export : Include return and master effects - you can turn this on and off

@ruahproduction1739 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, I'm just wondering is bus the only way to process multiple tracks. Wouldn't all drum tracks need to be compressed together. You refer to it as old school is there another way. How do you process your drums. Thanks. Sorry for beginner question.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Old school way is by creating a seperate track and outputting the audio of those tracks to that one channel to sum them together. This is how it's done on hardware. In Ableton you can still do it this way or simply group them together. It is essentially the same thing but appears as a grouped bundle of tracks rather than a seperate standalone track where they are apl being sent to. Hope that helps.

@MM4F 2 жыл бұрын

Any tips on dealing with the sends for a track that's inside a bus? If you solo the bus and lower the gain to zero, you still hear the send going through the master.. So when you change the gain of the bus, the send is still sent at its original level, or does for us;)

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I'm really sorry but I'm not quite sure what you mean as you've mentioned sends, buses and the master and sends inside a bus - which I'm not quite sure what you mean? Is there another way you could try to explain or if you want to join the twitch stream / discord we can chat there.😁

@Marineight Жыл бұрын

What are the benefits of using return channels?

@afroditta6950 2 жыл бұрын

Basically groups and buses are the same thing, while return channels (although pretty much the same thing) provide an extra layer for structuring your effects. The main purpose of all of this being to optimize CPU usage. Good to know if i understood it correctly, I have Ableton Live Intro and I'm limited to 2 return channels, which I can easily get around using groups/buses.

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are absolutely right. Groups are Abletons Bus system. Organisation and CPU I would say. Return channels are where you send a part of your signal to another chain of processing, so that you can blend it in with your original signal. Nice work!!

@afroditta6950 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic Thanks a lot for your explanations!

@mauriciotorrelio9612 2 жыл бұрын

okay so say i have all the vocals in a group stack, and one of the tracks in the group has a delay send at 50%... does it go through the delay send before going through whatever effects are on the group stack? Or does the track go through the group stack effects before going through its own specific send??? this is so confusing bc the group stack has sends too(but im not talking about the group stack sends)!

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Each track / group is independently sent to the return fx and not via any other routing. So your vocal track is independently going to the return channel at a 50% delay. The vocal track is being routed to the group (without the 50% delay from the return channel) where it joins all the other tracks in that group and then it is once again sent to the return delay channel but this time with all the other tracks in the group (and whatever processing is on that group). So it sounds like you are sending it twice. Once when it is a standalone track and secondly when it is part of the group. Hope that helps!

@mauriciotorrelio9612 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic Thank you that makes a lot of sense. I wish I could send my individual tracks to the return channels AFTER going through my vocal chain in my group. But oh well it looks like my cpu will be working overdrive with a bunch of single tracks each w vocal chains. Very helpful reply

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@mauriciotorrelio9612 oh yeah that would centainly be a lot of individual processing. Bye bye cpu in that case. 😅

@johnmcafee9663 2 жыл бұрын

So i have a bunch of tracks in a group, i use a lowpass filter on the group track, i send that group to a return track, when i turn the filter all the way down on the group track i still hear the return track...... how do i have the return track also effected by the filter in the group track ? it wont let you add return tracks to groups, so i know im going to have to route this some other way but dont know how ? im new to ableton coming from a different DAW

@brendonmccarroll2072 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have it set to Post Fader?

@johnmcafee9663 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendonmccarroll2072 i remember playing around with it on another session and not getting the result i was looking for, but i will go back and play abit more, on other daws its pretty simple thing to group sends

@simonkendrick762 2 жыл бұрын

Can you create more than 12 returns in the rack ?

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

You have a limit of 12 return channels. In the rack, you are creating chains and you can make as many as you want.

@ptmaudio5738 Жыл бұрын

Bus và Group có giống nhau về chức năng?

@stmpmusic 5 ай бұрын

what is the difference between a bus and a group? different sound?

@spacejourneywaves5420 2 жыл бұрын

Is this same functional that group tracks and bus tracks?

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. This is Abletons way of bussing tracks!

@spacejourneywaves5420 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeckySaifMusic Thank you so much

@ollyburhouse2464 3 ай бұрын

I don’t get it? You didn’t route anything to the return track but the signal was sent anyway?

@bartleyrob 2 жыл бұрын

I was expecting a bus to kuduro now im just left empty

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

hahaha lol! you and Kuduro. How come I haven't seen you in the stream for a while?

@RIFTHerc Жыл бұрын

I just wish ableton would let us Name the Sends & Returns. Using A,B,C etc... I forget what's what!

@BeckySaifMusic Жыл бұрын

Maybe that's an update for Live 12..... 😉

@wickidtuna2127 3 ай бұрын

I thought you could rename the send returns just by right clicking and renaming like everything else?? I always name mine reverb, delay, or sometimes vocal for my vocal send.

@debojyotisarkar72 Жыл бұрын

Wish Live 12 has a "Proper" traditional mixer GOD :(

@PermissionToMeow Ай бұрын

I wouldn’t mind getting parallel and compressing my dry against dat 100% wet. 🙂‍↔️ I’m trying to to dictate how much signal I want to come out. Full send. 👹

@MikeyGotBandz 28 күн бұрын

A return track IS a bus tho..?

@christycancel2519 2 жыл бұрын

Great overall performance! Have you heard of SessionsLive? I think you’d be amazing here. Get this chance to increase your fanbase. Are you interested?

@BeckySaifMusic 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of it.