This is an in depth video about my experience and opinion of Avenue suspension trucks.
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@acefa37506 жыл бұрын
Can we just all agree that Ben makes the best skate reviews on youtube?
@MrBluntNose6 жыл бұрын
ace fabella Totally agree. He's very articulate and honest/impartial in his reviews and way more skilled than most skaters out there so he can cover a lot of ground in terms of product quality on different terrain. Very rare combination
@fernandoreyes6806 жыл бұрын
Agree
@JordanIsBadAtGames6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jamesn44996 жыл бұрын
Definitely the best KZfaqr to watch for skate product reviews
@micheleruju59905 жыл бұрын
Agree, he describes the product as it is, clearing all plus and minus. Great job Ben!
@nassiemartinez43996 жыл бұрын
"Sounds like a bunch of geese dying" Seems like the goose crap finally drove him crazy
@ianleonlo5 жыл бұрын
i switched to suspension trucks because i had ankle surgery (right ankle (flip foot (goofy footed)) not from injury, i had a tumor), and honestly, imo, they're the reason i can still skate. grinds and slides are harder at first, and the turning circle has a different dynamic to them compared to regular trucks, but i found after a week i got totally used to them. The bouncy/softness of them makes skateboarding much less straining on my ankle. Most find them weird/a novelty, but for me, it saved me from not being able to skate, so personally i think they're a winner, but im in a different situation than most. Im also 29 going on 30 this year, so ageing/slower healing is a factor that these trucks i honestly feel help me with. I am considering purchasing another set in case Avenue fold (i hope they stay around!) But all in all, good review. Thumbs up to you for the vid!
@alpacamale29093 жыл бұрын
Maybe your muscles had atrophied from the recovery and you felt the cushion helped? in my experience cushion tend to mess with the strength of your muscles, that's why after Nike introduces heel cushions for running injuries have skyrocketed.
@larrypotter22432 жыл бұрын
@@alpacamale2909 That's not all why; cushions don't make your muscles weaker. Bill Bowerman put giant cushions in the heels of Nike shoes because he was teaching his athletes to run heel-toe and wanted a shoe to facilitate it without pain. These giant heel cushions then facilitated heel striking for the masses, which obviously doesn't work for those who are built for forefoot striking and leads to injuries. They change your gait, not your strength.
@fd_skate6 жыл бұрын
I have supported Avenue ever since they started selling their suspension trucks, and I have both liked and disliked the truck. I really enjoy the fact that it is an innovation and I think that is sometimes needed in the somewhat conservative skate community. :-) When I first tried them I loved them instantly. I used them primarily for street skating, nothing super technical, but a combination of kickflips, varial flips, bs flips, tre flips etc. I never skated ledges that much, with the exception of the occasional 50-50. Whenever I tried skating a regular stiff truck I thought it felt super awkward and strange and not as good as the suspension trucks at all. I think that equals your initial reactions when trying the trucks, like you said if you get used to them, you may not want to get back to a regular stiff truck again. I skated Avenue for well over a year, and the majority of the skating featured in our small channel is skated with the suspension trucks. I totally loved the trucks, but I could be because my skating at the time suited the suspension trucks. When I switched to indys, and later to Thunders it was primarly to save weight, and now after having skated those trucks for about a year I think the suspension trucks feel super weird again! xD I really liked your review, it felt really in depth and objective and I think that you raised some good questions about the trucks. I totally agree with the fact that they don't seem to turn as well as your avarage indys or Thunders. I also regognize the feeling of not being totally connected to the ground when skating, which can be a serious issue. That though can also depend very much on the weight factor. The suspension truck is basically a shock absorber, and the more weight one puts on it the more it will compress and decompress. I weigh 75kg and I don't feel the suspension effect that much and the lower your weight is the more I think the truck will feel like a normal stiff truck because it will compress way less. I don't know how much you weigh Ben, but you seem like a tall guy, so I am guessing that you weigh a little more than me. And that is a "problem" with these trucks I guess, everyone will experience them differently. Anyway, awesome review, probably the best I have seen regarding these trucks!
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Magnus! I think they are a super cool innovation too. I'm not sure if they will ever replace your standard truck but I think they do have a place in the market. They were pretty fun. The novelty just wore off once I started to see the potential liability in trying to re-learn how to do my tricks on them. It didn't seem worth the risk.
@ronaldhickman99534 жыл бұрын
Avenues are no innovation , the exact same design and principal was done in the late 70s , early 80s and called something else.....they were a gimmick then as they are now....will go through my old Skateboarder and Action Now mags and post the ad here...
@Ra.Amun74 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldhickman9953 still waiting for ad
@jedinaiit23459 ай бұрын
@@Ra.Amun74yeah where’s the ad?? I think he found his old bong and forgot!!
@Netherworld_Artifacts6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time, effort and detail. - Can't wait to see your analysis of those Powell flight decks.
@vladislavserenko76576 жыл бұрын
Got an opposite experience here. After watching this review decided to try a regular trucks, bought myself a pair of Indys 149, and at first it was kinda fun experience to feel a board like a solid object under my feet. Especially shuvits felt super funny to throw around, but was missing that springy feeling. So I'm a beginner skateboarder myself and had zero experience with normal trucks before, went from longboard trucks straight to avenue. Have been cruising them around for a year and a half and eventually got sucked into skateboarding, bought small soft wheels ricta 52 and started to learn ollies, fs180 etc... have a lot of fun skateboarding and learning new tricks since. Still amazes me how skateboarding is so adaptable to everyone preferences (wheelbase, board width, length, trucks, bushings, even grip tape man the possibilities are limitless nowadays).
@pumpumnavidad5676 жыл бұрын
Youre reviews are always on point !! Thanks for that 😃
@MrTKorho6 жыл бұрын
Excellent, in depth, careful review! I am partial to the Avenues, but then again I can't really skate. I love the smoothness, and it helps me keep a cruiser board as an allarounder. The smoothness on rough ground is just excellent. Today regular trucks feel like solid steel to me. Even with rubber shock absorber. But this review most likely nails the nature of Avenues: disconnected from ground, and extra movement adds inconsistency to tricks. But then they are smooth, and should even be grinding smoother. But as Prodigal Sun said in his video, the very same extra movement makes them more unstable on the coping. I believe that is why your rail tricks kept falling off: the baseplate twists and isn't true through the movement. Many kids who have tried mine, still flip them easily, in normal easy tricks. I still love them for my allarounder / cruiser. :-) And learning more detailed stuff on hard trucks.
@ibookboyuk4 жыл бұрын
Ben always does really good honest reviews and this seems like a fair review. These trucks would indeed totally rule on a cruiser board. I’m glad they exist.
@johnp85874 жыл бұрын
I remember hen I was 13 or 14 my parents got me some titan ti-lites. And even as light as I was they would get stuck on grinds and pop me off of grinds. They we're springy too.
@mr.surprise23415 жыл бұрын
I think you for making all these vids! I'm 33 and slowly progressing back into riding while juggling work and all the fun adult stuff. Its just cool to hear someone my age review products that understands that our bodies work different than younger cats lol. Keep making good content friend!
@JordanIsBadAtGames6 жыл бұрын
I’m using these as a cruiser board with 61mm 97a wheels. It’s beyond smooth
@chubeviewer6 жыл бұрын
Jordan O'Meara Skateboarding if its a cruiser try some 78a wheels
@russelljazzbeck5 жыл бұрын
This is what I am curious about. Does it smooth rough ground even more than just soft wheels?
@DeliciousManX4 жыл бұрын
@@russelljazzbeck absolutely. It's a really simple suspension system. It absorbs shock and vibration so that your throwing more of your energy forward instead of the ground hitting back at you. I basically only cruise, which is why I've only ever put these trucks on my short boards.
@ronaldhickman99534 жыл бұрын
97a is only smooth on concrete....
@chrismenzie74986 жыл бұрын
Ben thank you for such a great video on the avenues trucks. Now I can really see how they really are hard to stay consistent with due to the spring, etc. I thought I was going crazy trying to just ollie around but couldn't land them like I used to. So I'll throw them on a cruiser board which is gonna be awesome but I'll stick to thunders for tricks.
@redcurb46195 жыл бұрын
my buddy threw a set of these on a mini cruiser and i gotta say you nailed it. they are super fun for cruising around
@newcreationbear6106 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I was considering trying these, but you made some really good points, like about how often you'll actually land on them.
@Buffetology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I have been riding these Ave for awhile and then decided to go back to Thunder. Went skating with Thunder and oh my god my consistency jumped thru the roof !
@RestorationsFOD5 жыл бұрын
I love the honesty in your reviews Ben
@user-zb8de8fc3d6 жыл бұрын
Great review Ben. I think you were spot on. There great dog run cruisers for sure. Long live my Thunders !
@MrHippi895 жыл бұрын
Tensor mag lights Next please 👌🏼 best reviewer
@fernandoreyes6806 жыл бұрын
I really wanted this video. Awesome!!
@akira838426 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben bought these trucks at the start with delivery to Russia by past all the advantages that you call I would note that they are very good at downhill Board does not shake(when the descent feel comfortable and stable) and they are amazing for technical power slides , because the Board is pressed and then bounces easier and softer. But I changed them to Indy because I don't like how they get Ollie. In my opinion they are best for technical slides, freeride, cruising and downhill.
@KeepShredding6 жыл бұрын
Great Review, Very Thorough And Honest, I Appreciate It, Because I Have Really Been Thinking Of Getting A Set And Now I Think I Will Just Stick To What I Already Love. Great Video And As Always Keep Shredding Bro 😎
@tuttifruttiskalle6 жыл бұрын
Another Great review. Keep up the good work
@Happyland_Motel_Gamer_Cat6 жыл бұрын
Hey Congrats on 8K subs! :D
@kcsloan19846 жыл бұрын
Love the review Ben. I opt for the rubber shock risers on the board this 42yr old rides. And nothing over 99a wheel hardness
@mr.jamster84144 жыл бұрын
Anythong above 99a is slow as, but apparently these trucks help.
@ssgallanthtc6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to try these on a longboard. Might be good for rough streets and sidewalks when going longer distances.
@aaronmiles82866 жыл бұрын
Love the review,flip tricks looking solid,Indy for life!!!
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aaron!
@Gab3S0lan02 жыл бұрын
I have found that powell peralta g slides are awesome with them. They feel super soft at first but hella easy to get used to.
@skateordie96285 жыл бұрын
I use them because they really ARE easier on the knees. I started my KZfaq channel at 41 as a beginner skateboarder and I can really feel the difference. No pain after a skate session at all! With that said the 2 factors that deter me from buying them again are 1) I broke 3 trucks (doing basic beginner tricks) and 2) They are waaay to expensive So I've decided after this pair breaks (it won't be long) I am going back to Indys.
@pixelbath21315 жыл бұрын
hey buddy how long did they hold up before breaking? an how?
@skateordie96285 жыл бұрын
@@pixelbath2131 About 2 or 3 months and this with fairly light skating, on 3 the hanger broke (where the bushings sit) and on one it was the kingpin.
@tobiasphillips73594 жыл бұрын
@@skateordie9628 could you not replace them with alt hangars or a inverted kingpin like grind kings and have you tried the 2.0 version yet, gonna cxheck yourchanel now, i wanna 3d print titanium trucks ut the machine is mad expensive as are these tucks ut iuf ypu have spare its you dont use could you e interested in helping me redesihn them cos ive only een skating since like 20 and im now 2 ut i am noticing how it hurts to drop from such heights! and coming out the owl or vert seems scary af ut i wanna try vert
@skateordie96284 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasphillips7359 I tried replacing but nothing else fits. It seems each truck company has their own measurements. I sent them the broken ones back and they sent me the new version as replacement. It took a lot of arguing and a few months but it still was a nice gesture. Tose new trucks are holding so far.
@markprice2225 Жыл бұрын
I use ACE 55s right now but I'm thinking about Avenue trucks for my knees
@Mr2Reviews4 жыл бұрын
They're also good to replace the front trucks on electric boards. Makes the ride much smoother.
@liamsexton77585 жыл бұрын
what size are your wheels? im thinking about getting these on my board that i have 60mm cruisers on and if i put a 1/4 inch riser with really tight trucks if that would probably work or if id also need hard bushings. thanks!
@facksmasheen5 жыл бұрын
I had these trucks on a regular street deck and also an "inbetweener" cruiser, and I had most of the same issues, the noseslides and tailslides feel so gross. I did switch them to a cruiser recently and they are great. With a couple risers they actually turn really sharply, without wheelbite, as long as you don't mind pushing from a couple extra mm's height they are a perfect truck for a cruiser board, you can actually get slightly harder wheels then you might normally run on a cruiser. I've got skinnier 86a's, over the wide 78a(?) wheels I had before
@TheMetaldudeX6 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to find comprehensive truck reviews and these have always been a curiosity to me. They definitely aren’t for me. Great review!
@OliverUnderTheMoon5 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome in-depth review, thanks. 15:05 I would agree that it is going to be a big marketing focus but I am not sure about the 9/10 tricks being landed on the ground makes the impact reduction aspect immaterial. I say this because when landing on solid ground you have the luxury of diverting some of that downward momentum into horizontal momentum through steps and rolls -- the same way freerunners reduce impact. When landing on a skateboard it seems to me like the exact opposite because you don't want the board to fly out from under you. That's only gripe though, the whole video was so thorough and awesome.
@l8rsk8r945 жыл бұрын
I agree that this was a good review but I didn't agree with his comment about impact reduction. Obviously they company was not suggesting that when you DON'T land on the board, the trucks will help you. I agree it is a point to consider because they won't reduce it a lot but I don't feel it is a marketing gimmick to mention it. Obviously they can't say "This will help you reduce impact when you actually only land on your board 10% of the time." Too negative and takes too long to say
@hockeyskates26374 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, I was just wondering if you can't test a theory for me, on the website you can buy just the baseplate which is supposed to be replacments for old avenue trucks, I was wondering if any other truck hangers fit on the base plate, thanks!
@IntergalacticMath6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@_freedumb6 жыл бұрын
Love how detailed your reviews are, def the best out there! Don't think these trucks will catch on though, the sight of them alone makes me shiver haha! Have you ever skated tensors? Always wondered how those skate...
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I haven't really tried them much.
@gintaras7745 жыл бұрын
sound like the perfect cruising trucks tho
@nvdrz46664 жыл бұрын
They are, I bought some a while ago and it feels like your snowboarding lmao
@thomalight78104 жыл бұрын
True ! i bought mine 4 years ago for my longboard, feels less bumpy on the rough asphalt
@buttsheeve5 жыл бұрын
Good Review, Ben. You're eazy to understand. I agree with your opinion, I wouldn't buy these trucks for grinding.
@TIGERGUTS5 жыл бұрын
Were these trucks the GEn 1 or Gen 2 that are supposedly lighter?
@JacobWombacher2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Review!!
@neutrongarbage3 жыл бұрын
What's up with those street lights in the park by the ledge you skate? I just noticed them... They look really weird!
@Fanaz105 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Jordan Peterson get into skateboarding.
@Nootlest5 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@FETTYNOP4 жыл бұрын
Jpdiazopiens
@salahsyoutube4 жыл бұрын
i’m dead
@aegyobot19234 жыл бұрын
damn postmodernists make awful trucks.
@tobiasphillips73594 жыл бұрын
this comment made my fucking week, you seen the unscensored valutainment interview with jordan and patrick et david? EPiC!!!
@petepete98316 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of going to thunder but I just got a new pair of stage 11 hallow Indy’s 144
@mhakus5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful review! Most of what I do is limited to tick-tacking and cruising. Mr. Degros, since you're not going to use them again, could you give those trucks to me? They sound perfect!
@timknapen6 жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful review 👍🏻
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim:)
@_Maxten5 жыл бұрын
the 2nd version of the suspension truck is coming out soon. they have improved. you should email them and try to get your hands on a pair the FEATURES: - 11% lighter than the original GEN 1 - Reinforced kingpin design for added strength - Reinforced hanger design for added strength - Refined baseplate design for increased longevity and strength - Increased grind clearance - Chromoly hollow axle - Lightweight silver coated magnesium hanger - Black polished high-compression carbon steel baseplate
@morganconklin8849 Жыл бұрын
That’s so crazy looking. Wonder if it’s a bit easier on the knees landing from height
@ANTheWhizkid6 жыл бұрын
Bought some avenues maybe a few weeks ago and can only share some of your experiences. Until now I never had a wheel bite with a wheel size of 53mm but I also use some the hard dohdohs /no riser pads. Until now I can only say... What a cool truck. Smooth, no noise or any sounds, stable. I don´t skate transition but... one of Andy Shrock guys swears on them when skating transition so i guess it highly depends on personal preference if you find them comfortable? - My impression is: the truck turns in tighter angles than my venture and my independent trucks (no transition) but with hard bushings you can get good control over them. I personally don´t see any separation. I only see less vibrations... and god knows on european streets this is a good thing^^ have a good one mate. cheers
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
They have their advantages and smooth riding sure was one of them.
@gultelefon64516 жыл бұрын
thanks for this review dude. btw nice Vans (red)
@Movieman19655 жыл бұрын
Hey, Ben. Great all-around review for these trucks! I am a Mechanical Design Engineer and I believe you really did an amazing job in explaining what they are good for AND not. I like your assessment for the best application for them. I am looking at trying them myself for cruising around on a Landyacht 35 Switch I use for carving, pumping and pushing around. Question, do you know what the angle of the base plate is? I currently use Bear Grizzly 852s which have 52 degrees base plates and I think they are awesome! If you get some time or curiosity strikes you like me could you compare the angles for us and post your findings? Thanks for this thorough review!
@bendegros5 жыл бұрын
Angles of baseplates are one area I have no knowledge in yet.
@chubeviewer6 жыл бұрын
really though if you want some nice cruiser trucks, try the polar bear trucks they turn well and can still be used for street boards
@anneliesegibbs214 жыл бұрын
Thanks, had them for a while and thought it was only me, good to know it's the truck's.
@akosszuper18245 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha do you have a channel Vancouver carpentry? I just realized how familiar the two guy/one you sound and look. Like to watch both channels keep up the good work😁
@bendegros5 жыл бұрын
Sure do!!!!
@JordanIsBadAtGames6 жыл бұрын
Novelty euphoria. Good wording for explaining it. I skated them for a few months and then skated a normal board and immediately realised I didn’t like them anymore.
@pupkin86 жыл бұрын
Same shit, I can skate better with ventures or indys, but my old knees feel better skating avenues
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that too but for the time being I want performance.
@alexd84616 жыл бұрын
I love them...I can’t wait for the updated version to come out next month
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see what has changed.
@SimpleSouls6 жыл бұрын
Finally a 100% honest and non biased review on those! Question: what trucks would you recommend for a 31 year old getting back to skating? I managed to refresh all my basics so far, I just need a good new all round truck. Was thinking about getting Avenues but after your review: not so much :D
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to beat a pair of thunders or indys.
@SimpleSouls6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer, I actually just watched your vid on Indy vs. Thunder comparison and I am going for Indys Forged Titanium, can't go wrong with that I guess :)
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I will be getting those soon. They will be the next truck I buy.
@AdventuresInSkateboarding6 жыл бұрын
Why did changing the bearings change the wheel noise on the power slides? I am missing something there.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
The video was so long I edited some stuff out. The race reds are designed to crank the nut right down on them so they are super snug and it eliminated all vibration.
@AdventuresInSkateboarding6 жыл бұрын
Ben Degros I didn't know that. Thanks you, that is really good information. Had I bought them I would have left some wiggle in them.
@davidleeashkenazi89926 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks David:)
@eq85842 жыл бұрын
You should review Footprint insoles, Undergrip, Etnies Marana to see if any actually help with impact. I just really want to protect my joints.
@CarltonSeven6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video's
@mattpolhamus91946 жыл бұрын
great review!
@Andre-sc3fq4 жыл бұрын
Had sleep paralysis while watching this video
@ronthunders61244 жыл бұрын
Andre 111 damn... did you get the hatman experience? Or that little jagged goblin cat litte guy with the big eyes?? I actually have never had sleep paralysis but I am insanely interested in the experience and I’ve seen a lot of content on it
@ashtonpoitras42663 жыл бұрын
Ron Thunders whenever i have it, everything seems normal just can’t move
@CallMetheMusicMan3 жыл бұрын
@@ronthunders6124 my SP monster is usually a grey alien actually
@jinyboi4 жыл бұрын
Can you powerslide in these?
@milkman05135 жыл бұрын
What up Ben, next video at the park can you hit a wall ride on the obelisk , up the bank and off the drop. That thing looks wicked. Thanks Milkman,
@benbeckner49535 жыл бұрын
Hey there, I know this video is a little old but I trust your opinion more than the marketing team. I've been skating for about 6 months with my twin 9 year old daughters when they came to me asking for their first completes and I'm an old man at 37. I only skated a little bit as a kid. Without going into detail, I have some degenerative spine problems that don't preclude me from skateboarding in and of themselves but sometimes the impact from even flat ground ollies can over a few days cause muscle spasms that can put me out for a few days to a week. Transition skating so far hasn't caused me any issues aside from initially getting the muscle groups used to the activity, though I mainly just carve around the bowls and pools. My question is, if I'm not really pushing it to the point where I'm not landing things a bunch of times, say ollie's up a curb or the like, do you think these would really cut some impact? I've been thinking of going with a cup sole shoe and some thicker FP insoles since "board feel" in my world really just means "spine feel". The doctor hasn't told me I can't do this but I do realize that eventually my body will limit my activities. I'm looking for any way to prolong the inevitable here and I'm looking at everything from my shoes to durometer of my wheels and now these truck suspension systems. I know the obvious answer is to not try to do this at all but I refuse to accept that. Someday, maybe 5 or 10 years from now I won't be able to stand on my own. Right now I'm creating memories with my daughters while I can and a few for myself since I didn't know until 2 years ago that there was a clock on my being able bodied. I appreciate your videos so far and have definitely gotten tremendous value from your exercise tips, thanks for having a no gimmick, straight forward approach.
@bendegros5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben:) Sorry for the late response. I do think these could benefit you. It sounds like the limitations of these trucks won't be effecting the level of skating you are doing. They genuinely do provide a nice smooth ride.
@dopethescopevideos44382 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you get this question alot but after reviewing alot of stuff what's your favorite set up? I know it's all subjective but still would be cool to know your absolute favorite setup
@happyfingers555 жыл бұрын
thank you for this ben! I have been considering getting these, but now i definitely will not be. I like thunder, and indy, but I am considering getting mag light tensors. Getting older, I want a lighter board, but its hard to choose. I love most things about thunder, but don't like how they don't give me much of a tail or nose, because of how far apart they are in distance compared to indy. i feel indy has a better turn, and help my flip tricks because they are closer together. I like doing manuals on thunder more, but never tried tensor.
@mr.jamster84144 жыл бұрын
I like the way tensors turn. If you bomb a hill, you dont get speed wobbles unless you make sudden movements, and they are easy to balance out.
@MK-jo9ez3 жыл бұрын
You should do a set up vid with Indy 169s and tiny 51 or 40 something millimeter wheels
@davidcardella82665 жыл бұрын
Been riding Avenues for a little over a year and I love them. I don't think that he rode them enough to get used to them. After getting used to Avenues, I switched back to Krux for a week or two and hated them. They felt stiff, slow and jarring. I'd recommend that all skaters give them a solid trial; put them on your normal deck and ride them exclusively for a couple of weeks. They're about to roll out a version 2.0 that address a couple of the issues that Ben brought up. I've pre-ordered a set. Skaters have a tendency to shy away from trying new gear because it involves spending money on something that you might not like and spending time not skating at your best while you adjust to the change. I'm old enough to remember the switch from the old school decks to the "popsicle" deck and a lot of people (including me) hated the new shape at first; called it a novelty or a gimmick, said they were too narrow etc. A few years later, pretty much everyone had been converted.
@diddymelone22655 ай бұрын
I dont quite understand how changing the bearings made the wheels less loud while sliding?
@calebwilson62986 жыл бұрын
Those weren’t slides...they were grinds! Basically what you have on these trucks is hanger grinds and baseplate grinds. 13:02 I thought, “I didn’t know there was such a thing as a chunky slide!” Then I realized those were not chunky tail slides. They were tail baseplate grinds. BTW - It’s refreshing to watch such an impartial and informative review!! Good job on organizing your thoughts and findings.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
It was a truly unpleasant feeling slide (when it even would slide). I'm really surprised that it was never mentioned in any reviews I watched. I'm onto the flight deck. Just a few more weeks and I will be onto the next project! I'm pretty excited about it:)
@calebwilson62986 жыл бұрын
That’s why your reviews are so valuable! Solid objective reviews with no ties to the manufacturers produce some very interesting results that are hard to find in a sponsored review. Keep it up and enjoy the process as much as you can:) Looking forward to the flight deck review for sure!
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Caleb:)
@thisismyname25916 жыл бұрын
tried them once, i didn't really like them, i hate the sound of them, sounded like a boat or something. i also did not like the turn. the dude that had them loved them to death, he didn't skate anything else. only thing i enjoyed was how smooth the riding felt. in every review i see on them people say that they don't feel gimmicky, i disagree strongly. i don't think that avenue will ever become the standard like indy and thunder, since they have been around for so long and people have gotten so used to that feel.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say the trucks themselves are gimmicky. They should be in their own class of truck not trying to say it's better than a conventional truck. I would say the advertising is super gimmicky
@braydendougan94625 жыл бұрын
How did they do on nose and tail slides because that pivot cup thing on those truck looks weak, does it bend when you do nose and tail slides, I've been thinking about getting them
@churrosconamor66965 жыл бұрын
Have a set. Not made for big people. The turning is awkward. The bushings that come with it are terrible.
@nichtdiemama115 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here have experience with using wedged risers to make trucks like these turn better? Does it work or does it just make them even more 'wheelbitey'? I want these for my cruiser, but only if I can make them turn as good as Thunders.
@_Maxten4 жыл бұрын
1:06 must have something to do with the spring and weight then because i measured my pair on a 14.25 wheelbase and from axle to axle it measures 16.7, thunders measure 17.5, so thats .8 shorter in wheelbase which is closer to indy
@JPfingerskater5 жыл бұрын
i use risers with these, tho i have the Gen2 version. I like them but its really annoying to have every person asking what they are cause when I tell them they are skeptical as hell. lol but i do love the extra bit of speed they give you
@chrisklassen75196 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Mini Logo trucks or decks yet? I’d love to see a review of their decks with M.L.’s, Thunders and then Indy’s. I’ve noticed they have two different style shape/concaves for just about every width deck they make. A comparison on the differences between the two would be cool as well.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
It's a good idea. I'm pretty backed up for the foreseeable future though. I never thought I would have such a surplus of gear and so many requests for deck reviews😮
@NessaDarps6 жыл бұрын
Always been interested in trying these out. Don’t think I’ll ever buy them tho. I’m surprised they’re heavy I would have thought the opposite. Great review Ben thank you 👍🏻
@chubeviewer6 жыл бұрын
NessaDarps they have to be strong so i doubt they made from aluminium
@chubeviewer6 жыл бұрын
the baseplate that is
@NessaDarps6 жыл бұрын
chubeviewer true
@sdhayes5 жыл бұрын
I feel like these would be great for a filmer setup. They really cut down on noise, too!
@iambeetle6 жыл бұрын
Nice video again~~!! Do you have a favourite cruiser board setup?
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
No. I change setups all the time. I'm always trading trucks, decks and wheels. My cruisers are just my old decks and trucks with softer wheels.
@vladislavserenko76576 жыл бұрын
Yay! Avenue, been skating them for two years now.
@arunasrimkus19226 жыл бұрын
DKL griptape review incoming?
@parzival56795 жыл бұрын
hey ben, what wheels were you skating in this video??
@bendegros5 жыл бұрын
F4 lock-ins 54
@mechanikjoe6 жыл бұрын
I have some Avenues and I reaaally like them. I will say, I do not skate transition at all besides maybe small quarter pipes and don't do any grinds besides 5-0 or 50-50 yet. I've tried them in a bowl and noticed what Ben said about them not being able to really carve that well. But skating these out in the street is so amazing compared to regular trucks, especially if you're going over any rough terrain, it's night and day really. I also really like these trucks while trying ollies off of drops/stairs.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I will admit, they sure felt smooth:)
@superdeluxesmell5 жыл бұрын
I suppose it makes sense that you’re moving faster since momentum won’t be slowed by small objects as the truck absorbs their impact.
@idrinkcolt6 жыл бұрын
ben have you tried a 8,25 board with 149 indys before? does it work or is 8.25 too small for 149
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
idrinkcolt I ride 8.25 with 149s all the time. I do it because I love the width of 149s and 8.25 is the narrowest board that still feels good with them. Some people would rather ride 144s but I actually like the 149s better.
@idrinkcolt6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply, this is great to know cause 8.38 is giving me trouble but i love my 149's
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
If you measure the width of your wheels on your 149 trucks they should be well under 8.25. People get all worked up about the nuts/axle sticking past the deck but they aren't even the business parts of your skateboard.
@greatnath6 жыл бұрын
I really like the graphics on your wheels, looks cool as fuck man.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Those wheels take great photo's.
@i.haul.ass_6 жыл бұрын
Ben are u gonna review the nike sb nyjah shoes?
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Yup. Soon:)
@esk8jaimes6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing these wouldn't be recommended for higher 15-18mph speeds?
@boomshakalaka73965 жыл бұрын
I think the lock on round flatbars was due to the small wheels more than the trucks, a small wheel tends to slip out while a big wheel locks in better
@MadGodsBand6 жыл бұрын
Postives: Super smooth on rough ground. Bounce was nice on my old knees. Negatives: Wheel bite, so bad. It was impossible for me to lock in 5050 a round rail. I was disappointed you mentioned it but didn't try it. There's not one rail 5050 in the promo videos. I'm somewhat convinced it's impossible. I couldn't even lock it in, it bounces me off immediately every time. I gave mine to a friend, who uses his board to commute and not for tricks. He loves them.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
I just didn't want to risk it. It felt sketchy. If I had a lower rail that day I might have tried it but that one is just high enough to put it out of my comfort zone.
@nates97786 жыл бұрын
Replace the bushings that come with the trucks because they are sort of soft and are meant for cruising.
@damancandance13 жыл бұрын
instasub. such a comprehensive review!'
@junrycalvo6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, What are those small wheels? After the spitfire wheels.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Junry Calvo bones Stf. The ones I reviewed last summer. V3 shape
@junrycalvo6 жыл бұрын
Ben Degros, thanks Ben. I thought it was a different wheels cuz it got smaller by the time.
@saturdaymorning3296 жыл бұрын
Just like most hardware, it's all about preference.
@abrahamdelnuncio2 жыл бұрын
lmao @6:54 "sounds like a bunch of geese dying."
@fernandoreyes6806 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried DKL grip?
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
Not yet.
@yoyoz3335 жыл бұрын
Ben if you wanna ride that bowl, grab a helmet and knee pads and get a 8.75 - 9 inch, something with a wheel base of 14.75- 15, with some 58mm wheels (kryptonic, F4s or bones SPF), Indy 159s with bones medium bushings, and you'll have a great time. man i miss riding Kensington
@smokescreenskaters2056 жыл бұрын
I actually have some avenue trucks and the original bushings are actually very nice.
@mulldriftyr6 жыл бұрын
As you said they're meant for cruising, not for tricks. thats all. and I like to cruise I should try them.
@bendegros6 жыл бұрын
If you want them loose with big wheels you will need big risers.
@mulldriftyr6 жыл бұрын
Now I run 60mm wheels with high trucks (54mm high) and a 5mm pad, I never touch even when I carve hard. only when I land badly after an ollie. the setup is real nice :) but I know you dont like soft wheels and large board :D