Avid CnC Upgrade to 8.7hp Spindle

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video we change out our no name spindle to a new spindle available from Avid Cnc......8.7hp!!!!
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@JayBates 3 жыл бұрын

I watch this :)

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jay 😘

@thewoodworkersjourney3314 3 жыл бұрын

Can you say "Collaboration Project?"

@makethepart 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're gaining efficiency and improved the system performance. Keep up the good work Paul and crew!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We will!

@matthewhaaland4004 3 жыл бұрын

Keep the videos coming guys! It’s always a pleasure viewing them.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@pctatc66 3 жыл бұрын

I love the variety of videos you give us! its never boring around here!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! We try to mix it up and show you everything we do around here. Fun never stops

@edclayton99 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video. Very impressive and informative.

@jeffchapman9661 3 жыл бұрын

the work shop is looking good, very clean

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@unitedspacepirates9075 3 жыл бұрын

Robots best kept bolted to the floor. Letting them walk around cutting things is risky when they get uppity.

@JonnyBuilds 3 жыл бұрын

Whoa that thing is awesome!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks we love it! Workhorse

@TheWoodguru63 Жыл бұрын

Well done. Very entertaining.

@CanadianWoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@geofferyshanen7758 2 жыл бұрын

Your video was awesome. I own a Avid Pro 4848. While watching your video I had an idea. If you had a metal detector and passed it over the slab prior to machining it might detect any embedded metal in the slab allowing the opportunity to remove it and prevent damage to expensive cutters. Just a thought. Thanks again.

@davecurda2350 3 жыл бұрын

Nice upgrade

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Sure is

@VideosByAl 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Editing with the music 4:05 to 4:13. Great up grade Paul.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

I think we got lucky there (-:

@JoeMama-ke1so 2 жыл бұрын

My buddy assembled the vfd very cool man.

@DurfandThings 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@weldon2848 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job , Well Done .... Im building CNC plasma - mill combo 2.4mx1.5m , i cant wait to get done

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! That sounds super cool

@JimDockrellWatertone 3 жыл бұрын

What a beast!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

It's is, so happy!!!

@dvongartzen 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video! You should wire your dust collection into your main controller box (relay 1 or relay 2). That way you can turn it on and off in Mach instead of the wall switch. Maybe do a short video on it as well.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

@SandyMasquith 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@petebuehn7789 3 жыл бұрын

How did the feeds and speeds compare in actual numbers? Great content. Thanks Pete

@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223 3 жыл бұрын

That is sweet

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching

@fierceflyer5 3 жыл бұрын

Did you tram the spindle? If so what’s your procedure for doing that? Thanks for the video that new spindle is a beast!

@geofferyshanen7758 2 жыл бұрын

I just wanted to tell you your video was awesome. I also have an Avid 4848 Pro. While watching your video I had a thought about protecting your cutters. I was wondering if a metal detector that you could pass over the slabs before the program is started could efficiently detect any metal that might be embedded in the slab, allowing its removal prior to surfacing or milling. Just a thought.. Thanks Again.

@mikemulligancopilotdesigns9904 3 жыл бұрын

awesome man!! I see you are running mach3 its super easy to hook up a wireless game controller and just use a key grabber program mach 3 even has one. I have super nes on all my machines!:)

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks. I need to look into it more

@toddm9957 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe someday I will be able to afford that spindle for my avid pro 48 by 96

@madsandretans5443 3 жыл бұрын

I like the video, keep up the good work. Quick improvement tip - You should probably invest in a collet nut torque wrench, that brute force method at 11-minute mark is really not the way to go. Too much torque, even over short timespans, reduces the holding forces and creates more runout and faster worn out collets. Too little force you probably already know what happens.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, i'm on it!

@iancrossley6637 3 жыл бұрын

With a cutter that dia I would think it's a must to tram it. So, what's the verdict, is the more powerful spindle giving you a better quality cut?

@stevemaurer6348 3 жыл бұрын

MORE POWER !!!!!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

In the Tim The Toolman Taylor voice right?

@stevemaurer6348 3 жыл бұрын

@@CanadianWoodworks ARRRR ARRRR ARR lol you were feelin it

@russellnentwich8745 2 жыл бұрын

That slab is beautiful. Any for sale? Do you have a 30 amp running that spindle. I have the same one coming and I have 3 phase too.

@williamzanghettijr5862 3 жыл бұрын

Dust extraction....eh? Love your videos there young man

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! Thanks William

@scruffy6151 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@BlackShadow2009 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the size of CNC machine you have? Did u have any issue with cooling since this router is not water cooled?

@aidanmargarson8910 3 жыл бұрын

feed rate seems a bit high if you're going for optimum finish? .. mind you, I'm used to working with aluminium and steel

@BryceCampbell 3 жыл бұрын

Slick CNC and software. Though I'd prefer to have a Xbox remote for the controls vs. using mouse/keyboard

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen that before. Might need to dig around for my old console lol

@renaud7101 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! New to your content, I don't know if you've talked about this in the past, but was it complicated/expensive to have the cnc shipped (the initial machine, not the new spindle) across the border? Cheers

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

I would reach out to AVIDCNC direct. They would be able to help you with shipping cost, duties etc.

@qhnguyen7593 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm I'd like to see milling with dust collection on

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We will have a dust boot video coming soon

@hickbran1 2 жыл бұрын

What size CNC is this? I’m looking at getting a 4x8 avid and was wondering if it’s worth it

@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 3 жыл бұрын

Recent subscriber and love seeing the bigger CNCs and slabs getting surfaced. You mentioned controlling the CNC with the keyboard. Is that for flattening the full slab or just for some of the high points that need a separate pass? If it's for the full slab is it just quicker to jog it through with the keyboard than writing a flattening program for each size?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We use the keyboard for just the initial passes where we would be cutting more air then wood, once the pass will take at least 50% wood than we run the program. Over the years we have written all the programs we need, we just need to use a program that is wider than we need and just. a touch longer.

@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 3 жыл бұрын

@@CanadianWoodworks Makes perfect sense and thanks for sharing.

@petershupe3460 3 жыл бұрын

What do you use to sand the slabs once flattened? Wood mizer sells a slabbing machine that has a 7" sanding disk head. Would you think a sanding disk would work on the CNC. You may do a volume where you need to get the slab off? Thanks. Great machine and vid BTW

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

You right, i've used the sanding head for the cnc but we need to keep it surfacing slabs, so we have a 53'' wide belt sander, that is for sure way faster and better at sanding. Thanks for watching!

@jaredroberts8332 3 жыл бұрын

I just recently purchased the same spindle for my Avid and plan to use it to flatten slabs. Is your spindle hooked up to 3 phase or did you use the converter that comes with it and run it on single phase power?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, Great choice this spindle is really nice. No matter what you need to use the Vfd that comes with the spindle, yes it will convert single phase to 3 phase, but they say you'll loose about 2hp if you don't feed it 3 phase. I am feeding it 3phase from a Phase Perfect single to three phase converter

@AndrewAHayes 3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to surfacing how much more accurate is it to do it on the CNC as opposed to the thicknesser planer? And with a bed that size I am really surprised you are bot running dual gantries and heads.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

The cnc is 100% flat, the planer not always. Really depends on the material.

@magicman9486 3 жыл бұрын

Too bad about the 3 phase requirement. My new CNC is coming with 5.5kw as i don't have 3 phase available in my area. (I'm in the country) Wonder if they make a VFD that could run bigger while operating on 220 single phase.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We use a phase perfect to create our 3 Phase for our bigger machines, they are really nice units but a decent investment.

@Zebra66 2 жыл бұрын

Are you using 3 phase power? The Avid site states that running it off 1 phase power reduces peak power to 6.4hp. Does it ship with an undersized vfd? I run a 7.5hp spindle from a 50a 240v single phase circuit with a 10hp vfd designed for 1ph power in - 3ph out and I don't have to reduce peak power.

@CanadianWoodworks 2 жыл бұрын

Yes I have 3 phase power, but I also agree with you, I like you run many machines with single phase in and 3 phase out, I've always practiced double size the vfd compared to the motor, from what I understand this does not reduce HP. So I don't know why this vfd would limit the HP with single phase but I larger vfd then needed is always better when using for single to three phase. Maybe this VFD has some sort of auto programming to limit HP if single phase.

@UncleKennysPlace 3 жыл бұрын

Some of those tools appear to be crossing over into metalworking stuff.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We got a surprise coming soon, and it's to do with metal ;-P

@1960fusion 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you find that hi-tech blast gate!

@CanadianWoodworks Жыл бұрын

I had to look far and wide

@Z-add 3 жыл бұрын

I see you didn't buy the avid cnc frame legs and instead made your own base frame. Have you done a video about that base frame.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

At the time they did not have a base available yet, and we put very heavy slabs on the cnc so we built this base, sorry no video on it but I could put together something. Thanks for watching.

@RuetscheFlies 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there! I am in the market for a CNC. I've been looking at Avid because the price is amazing but also have been looking at Shop Saber. It looks like you have a decent size company going. Have you ever been disappointed with purchasing the Avid Cnc? The only reason I ask is because I want to know if its justifiable to spend the extra money with Shop Saber. Thanks!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

We LOVE our AVIDCNC here. We put it through its paces with flattening slabs, but it's also great for the finer detail jobs too. We've had ZERO issues with it. Hope this helps

@RuetscheFlies 3 жыл бұрын

@@CanadianWoodworks Appreciate the response! My main thought is if I buy Avid, will I outgrow it in the near future? I guess thats for me to find out. Thanks again! :)

@claykowalsky2064 3 жыл бұрын

What does that set up cost from avid approx. Been trying to get a quote from them but so many add-ons. Crazy Thanks

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

It's hard for me to say now, it was so long ago. But from my memory my machine with out the spindle was $12k usd , I would think it's more now because of inflation but damn it's a great value!! Thanks for watching

@tommy.o2510 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the same issues

@tommy.o2510 3 жыл бұрын

@@CanadianWoodworks what size is it ?

@charliebrown881 3 жыл бұрын

How wide is your machine as in work area ?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

This cnc is 16' long x 72'' wide

@daveweber1331 3 жыл бұрын

Big leap up! Can you do larger step-overs with the bigger bit/more hp?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, we can step over 2'' instead of 1'' now, we do move the machine slower but the step over more then makes up for that, better finish and faster!

@Faber_Nox 3 жыл бұрын

@2.08 thats what she said 🤣🤣🤣

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@carbide1968 3 жыл бұрын

What was holding the wood down? I understand the shims but not the holding down part?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

The weight of the wood itself. The clamps stop the possibility of side shifting

@bigdogmn73 3 жыл бұрын

Did they give it to you?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Yes the head was provided to me at no cost, i've been fortunate to have some amazing support from some great companies.

@johndell8679 3 жыл бұрын

I bet those heads cost a pretty penny.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

I believe it's $4k usd, it's not "cheap" but in the world of CNC spindles, that is cheap.

@MICHAELEJONES-xs2pe 3 жыл бұрын

WISHED YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWN THE STEP OVER IN REAL TIME.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Totally understand, we will add more real time footage in future vids.

@Faber_Nox 3 жыл бұрын

Who gave this a f@cking thumbs down😒

@CanadianWoodworks 3 жыл бұрын

Ya who!

@carbide1968 3 жыл бұрын

Competitor's.

@unitedspacepirates9075 3 жыл бұрын

Mandela effect strikes again. Vader said "No, I'm your father"... What if I told you Morpheus never said "what if I told you"...