Getting my new CNC DIALED! // Vacuum Table Workholding & T-Track Fixture Table

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3 жыл бұрын

Learn how to add a DIY vacuum workholding table and a t-track fixture table to an Avid 4x8 CNC router! These two spoilboard options give me tons of flexibility for clamping material to my CNC and should make clamping and cutting parts on the CNC a breeze.
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🛠 Tools Used On The Vacuum Table and T-Track Table Build (affiliate):
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🛠 Materials Used On The Vacuum Table and T-Track Table Build (affiliate):
🔹 Rockler Universal T-Track : www.rockler.com/universal-t-t...
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@TrailFeatures 3 жыл бұрын

It's always funny how machines like this turn into projects. The first two months of owning a 3D printer I spent printing more parts for the 3D printer. XD

@tmasopust 3 жыл бұрын

It's amazing the everyone with a CNC seems to go through the same evolutionary process of trying to come up with the perfect clamping/spoil board solution. We are on iteration 4 or 5 at this point having initially tried the same things you are doing :)

@donbillington6360 3 жыл бұрын

What methods do you like the most?

@IceGene 3 жыл бұрын

7:52 that slide was sooooo satisfying.

@jimmyz1686 3 жыл бұрын

I think you just sold me on getting an avid cnc. The vacuum hold down is a game changer.

@weberwoodshop 3 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s cool. Congrats on an awesome setup!

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Your CNC setup is pretty damn sweet too.

@A2ZGeek 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you got a CNC, I love my AvidCNC.

@shakejones 2 жыл бұрын

great video + presentation + explanation! well done mate! thanks for sharing!

@akquicksilver 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome set up brother! Time to see some killer CNC projects.

@stu-po 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed seeing this go together and the mystery of the vacuum pump through the mdf!

@johnross9369 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic build Johnny. That machine is a beast.

@mattbowers5342 3 жыл бұрын

I sooo want to add one of these to my shop! Thanks for letting us enjoy yours.

@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty interesting process, dude! Great work! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@boko3155 3 жыл бұрын

First of all. F%$K YES. first video I have seen that is quick - doesn't bull%&T and focuses on sharing knowledge - secondly thank you! I hope we can someday make vids that share like this too - we've modded our avid and really happy with the result. Need to make a video too!

@RonMarshallrone 3 жыл бұрын

Thats incredible. Nice job.

@matsler89 3 жыл бұрын

You can put some t nuts into your melamine vacuum zone piece and then create a file for your CNC to cut out recessed mounting holes that match the t nuts. This allows for repeatable mounting for your spoil board and it saves your melamine piece from multiple screw holes in it over time.

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@makethepart 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic Video! Thanks for sharing

@AquaFreak 9 ай бұрын

TIP! close the edges of the MDF with white wood glue. that way your spoilboard is going to have 40% more suction power.

@Dragonrockstar88 3 жыл бұрын

One thing we do at our shop to help suction through the MDF is seal the sides with some spray paint.

@jake196.21 3 жыл бұрын

How loud is the vacuum. I know you'll have dust collection/CNC running at the same time, I was just curious on its own as well as with everything running altogether.

@Jeff_369 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool and thanks for the video!!!

@TOP-SOUND-CHANNEL 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. Any idea of the minimum negative vacuum pressure, needed for a simular vac-system?

@gregweber802 3 жыл бұрын

awesome video... informative and well done.

@sebastiangerstein637 3 жыл бұрын

love your videos man

@derekjarman1638 3 жыл бұрын

Cool setup!

@jimhinkle7245 3 жыл бұрын

Just found this. DANG BUBBA!!!! Very Very nice setup!!!!

@hawkeire2414 3 жыл бұрын

Daaaaaammmmn Son... Nice setup... The possibilities with the CNC are endless..

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Yes they are! Can't wait to really get some use out of it once it comes time to build all of the cabinetry for the house I'm building at the moment.

@TxStang 3 жыл бұрын

Nice setup !

@sallybryan3754 3 жыл бұрын

Great project

@simonkinnbjrny6550 3 жыл бұрын

I love it!

@JDDupuy 3 жыл бұрын

Okay now I'm thinking about this model over the Axiom.

@PSModernKitchens 2 жыл бұрын

this was great!

@jeffcalvert6502 3 жыл бұрын

Use nylon screws to hold down the spoil board. Never ruin a bit by hitting a screw. When you have to change the spoil board (and you will) they can just be cut out.

@JDDupuy 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip!

@l.rod2827 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, Thats badass...

@mavigogun 6 ай бұрын

"Rockler", "Rockler", "Rockler"- relentless product placement.

@noahcharbo5949 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos

@nolancraw 3 жыл бұрын

For the drawer slide issue, couldn't you have routed out some material off each side of the drawer on the router table? or was it too much material?

@ZediZero 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man what a machine ! :D I want it soooo bad ! I got an x-carve. But its... limited i should say. Good work man !

@toddm9957 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to know what size spindle are you using I have the same cnc table from cnc router parts.

@Stevethatiam 2 жыл бұрын

Great job on the vacuum setup! This video helped me a bunch! Would you mind sharing your feed and speeds that you used for the vacuum table?

@daviddavis1322 3 жыл бұрын

Bind the edges of the mdf spoil board, too. It'll really help focus the vacuum to a quadrant

@bcer960interurban 3 жыл бұрын

it's faster and easier to put 2 coats of shellac on the edges of the MDF

@davidurdahl6656 3 жыл бұрын

When Jonny calls it bitsbits so many times, the company eventually just drops the & from their name. lol

@shawnzavoda2050 3 жыл бұрын

Can you put t-track directly into the flow through MDF piece if you sealed the track groove? I realize the area where the track is would not have suction, but any other issues doing that?

@alexcampbell492 3 жыл бұрын

I have a large CNC router with a vacuum system. I didn’t see if you used gasketing in the plenum. It makes a big difference. I split my spoilboard so I can slide the front section onto the back and then use gaskets right on the plenum for huge holding power when doing surface work or engraving.

@roeschdan 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a diagram that can explain this more. I don't quite understand

@dairybarnwoodworking215 3 жыл бұрын

It sucks through the MDF? 🤯. That’s sick!

@djrobstarrcom 3 жыл бұрын

wouldn´t believe it if someone tell me that this is working

@michaelporter9940 3 жыл бұрын

"Brady Vac". Been using it for years. It IS sick!

@PjotrStroganov 3 жыл бұрын

Been working with a Homag Vantage 12L for a few years now and it uses the same principle. Low quality mdf is best to use as it lets through more air. Nice about this industrial machine is the work area. About 3600x1700mm.;)

@markharro8900 2 жыл бұрын

Is this simply relying on the porosity of the MDF? I was wondering the same question.

@yaobuckman5006 3 жыл бұрын

beast of CNC??

@lomoDaniel 3 жыл бұрын

Buying a couple tables, soon. Thanks for providing useful information. Any regrets or things you'd configure differently, now that you've used it for a while? I'll be running both router and plasma. Starting a new shop in Westchester, NY.

@Utaheyelid 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same 4x8 router and vacuum system. I think you're gonna find you don't want all those screws and inserts in your spoilboard. If you are using this table as often I would expect, you'll quickly tear up your spoilboard and lose vacuum power. You'll want to resurface it fairly regularly and all those screws will just become a pain in the butt. Just glue the lightweight MDF to the plenum board and when you want the t-track board, attach it with wood screws in the corners. I go 98% through my spoilboard and then just glue another one on top. Works great.

@ricardoramirez3084 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if both of you plumbed with schedule 20 or 40?

@nitrousair 2 жыл бұрын

does the glue hinder the suction from the vacuum when you glue the spoilboard to the plenum?

@Utaheyelid 2 жыл бұрын

@@nitrousair No. Just glue completely around the edges and then in small spots scattered around the board. The air will pull right around it. Be sure and take a millimeter off the bottom side of the MDF that will attach to the plenum, then flip it, glue it and surface the other side completely.

@peterkroeker753 3 жыл бұрын

I will own one of these when my shop is built I promise

@ronhampe 3 жыл бұрын

Curious did you glue all of the pvc fittings for the Hurricane?

@johncarr123 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have the Cut2d files or CAD files for the board for download? What are the size of the squares and spacing between the squares?

@iraydiaz5888 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video or a site with what software you use for your CNC Workflow? CAD > CAM > Machining [I saw mach4 or mach3] [Does Aspire function as a CAD and CAM?]

@elanman608 3 жыл бұрын

to improve holding just lay clingfilm over the part and surrounding area.

@RageGuitars 3 жыл бұрын

For a tad better vacuum, seal the side of your spoil board with the fast edge. There is a little bit if leakage thru the edge. Great video

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Good tip, thanks!

@joshm4519 3 жыл бұрын

@@craftedworkshop wood glue works too.

@nathwald 3 жыл бұрын

Also add a gasket between your vacuum grid and your spoilboard

@r2db 6 ай бұрын

@@nathwald That was what I had thought the square pattern was going to be used for. It is pretty much standard with metalworking machine vacuum fixture plates.

@tuscanland 2 жыл бұрын

May I ask if you have the 4HP or the 8HP spindle mounted to the router?

@Ravewayvideos 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice =)

@davidthompson9359 3 жыл бұрын

For small or garage CNC setups would a Hurricane vacuum system cost too much in electricity to be worth the install?

@mattthrogmorton 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any way you would share your finished file for the routing on the plenum?

@jamshidkhasanbayev1587 3 жыл бұрын

Bro, I have a question, which type of Stepper motor did you use for X and Y? Nema 34? I am also planning to make my own CNC. The size of the CNC will be aproximately the same with your CNC's. can I use Nema 23 (the strongest one with 112 length and 3 N.m). can this stepper motor handle it? please give your suggestion, thanks!

@luwk 3 жыл бұрын

Why don't you use the powermatic cyclone dust extractor on the cnc machine

@Bale747 3 жыл бұрын

Curious, what did the full setup set you back ? CNC DC VAC ? Cheers

@fredericgiraud5663 3 жыл бұрын

salut quel est la puissante de ta pompe a vide ? je voudrai faire une table a vide aussi ma table fais 1.5mx1.4m merci

@beanxlj 3 жыл бұрын

What software did you use for the cabinet? Thanks

@jasonflt 3 жыл бұрын

i so want one !!!!!!!!

@allaboutthecorvettes 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Johnny! What type of headphones have you been using in your videos?

@scottschneider4596 3 жыл бұрын

Seems like that dust collector isn’t powerful enough? Have you seen the double sided dust boot?

@furthernorthfab 3 жыл бұрын

She’s a beauty.

@drich6816 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm getting ready to order a Avid machine. How do you like it? Do you feel the leg kit is stable enough? Thanks

@jasonathr Жыл бұрын

Could you tell me what software you use to design the cabinets?

@robllewellyn 3 жыл бұрын

Immense work...

@greglauderdale7595 3 жыл бұрын

Aaaaaaaand now I want a CNC.

@dennisvancoolwijk6147 3 ай бұрын

Do you not have to use rubber in your grid under your spoilboard?

@KaiBuskirk 3 жыл бұрын

Well DOne!!

@christiansnyder2633 5 ай бұрын

Hey man do you have the file for the plenum board with the grid!

@jacobguilbert5312 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I’m currently planning out my Cnc purchase. Are you running off of 3 phase or single phase? And if single phase, does the drop ~2hp drop in power still machine like a boss? I.e single pass cuts on 3/4” plywood with decent feed rates? Thanks!

@GothicCucumber 2 жыл бұрын

Single pass cuts on 3/4 ply would be rough on any hobbyist/consumer grade CNC. I normally make 2 or 3 passes. Also helps make sure you have time to stop the machine if it looses a step and eats into a good part

@jacobpayne2680 3 жыл бұрын

Could you do a dean ml style guitar build sometime?

@joewolf38 3 жыл бұрын

Sick:-). Fire for me.

@64maxpower 3 жыл бұрын

That is app cool.

@MrFreeway99 3 жыл бұрын

Would you mine sharing your post for mozaik? Its taking a long time to get mine.

@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын

Forgive me if I missed it - but how does the air pass through the MDF spoil board? Is it just because it's a composite material with thousands of tiny holes that are basically too small to see?

@iaincampbell3119 3 жыл бұрын

MDF is extremely porous, that's why it swells up so much when it gets wet.

@workshop_edits 3 жыл бұрын

@@iaincampbell3119 makes sense - cheers

@reforzar 3 жыл бұрын

How do you predrill holes with a router? 🤯

@danielglr Жыл бұрын

Can you tell me wich vacuum did you use ??

@scottbuehler7511 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos, I am awaiting my Avid 4*9 cnc with ATC in about 4 weeks and want to do the vacuum table like you just did! Is there a reason you didn't just glue the MDF onto the plenum instead of screws? Just easier to replace when needed? Thanks for the videos

@roeschdan 3 жыл бұрын

What atc spindle and system did you go with?

@scottbuehler7511 3 жыл бұрын

@@roeschdan I went with CNC Depot's S30. I should finally have it all up and running by end of the week

@duncangiel9564 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! You mentioned you selected the Blum under mount slides in the software. Which cabinet software are you using? Or is that part of Aspire?

@maximazur4854 3 жыл бұрын

You can download Dynaplan that is a Blum software for building cabinets

@johnramminger 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like he is using mozaik. Awesome software

@dvn711 3 жыл бұрын

Which cabinet design software were you using that allowed you to choose the drawer slides? And would you be willing to do a small video about it?

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll be going into it in my next video! I used Mozaik.

@gerrysantora1706 2 жыл бұрын

Are you drilling your holes with the router bit, or changing out the router bit for a drill bit, and then running a separate drill program?

@craftedworkshop 2 жыл бұрын

For the t-track table, I just used a standard router bit.

@murali1068 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool.. what is the total approximate cost to setup like this?

@TheUserid82 3 жыл бұрын

is it strong enough to double as a vacuum former? Would just need a heat box to mount above the table then to heat the plastic.

@joshm4519 3 жыл бұрын

I did this with mine, I vacuum formed plastazote foam. I'm using two dust extractors for vacuum.

@PSModernKitchens 2 жыл бұрын

Q: what was you reasons to pick this brand CNC over the others? Thank you...

@jorgevillalpando4269 3 жыл бұрын

How much will this machine run full assembly.

@claudeloomes7985 3 жыл бұрын

what CNC software do you use?

@aripratama333 3 жыл бұрын

How big is that vacuum pump you use?

@lenshelton2810 Жыл бұрын

What cabinet CAD software is that?

@stingrayguy8294 Жыл бұрын

what was the cost of the hurricane vacuum ?

@intelligenceservices 3 жыл бұрын

need to see inside the vacuum pump please.

@erik_natzke 3 жыл бұрын

Q: Did you make or buy that Dust Shoe? Looks solid! Polycorbonate perhaps. Mine has a bit of give (made out of HDPE from the Avid Instructions). It works, but I like the appearance of yours... thus the query. Thanks for taking the time to reply (AND make these videos. MUCH APPRECIATED & Learned)

@shwoard386 2 жыл бұрын

how much did this entire setup cost? Avids website only has a price for the mechanical portion, everything else is broken out be separate parts

@paulbergman8228 2 жыл бұрын

Where do you get the canister filter? It is not on the supply list provided. 🙂

@craftedworkshop 2 жыл бұрын

It comes with the Blackbox unit.

@taklah 3 жыл бұрын

We are installing our Hurricane right now as I am writing this and I noticed that your filter can is connected backwards. Blue sticker on the side of the can says (from CNC). Did that cause any problems so far?

@craftedworkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, good looking out! Hasn't caused issues but I'll definitely fix that before using it again.