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OMG this lesson was insane! The explanation of 0 to 180 degrees and where we should hit on the pronation and where the palms face was so on point! Toss and bend was great to point out and I’m sure I’m guilty there. No way this lesson should have been free!

I am amazed by the amount of DEPTH you give into your analysis in order to leave no stone unturned in what you are teaching. I consider you and Milan Krnjetin of TENFITMEN the best online tennis coaches, BY FAR.

So so helpful. And I just love the way you explain the micro details with so much clarity, no confusion and some sharp humour. Thanks a ton

When an ice skater is spinning with arms out and then pull their arms in, they spin faster because their moment of inertia (resistance to rotation) decreases. Conservation of angular momentum means they spin faster. The same principle applies to serving. When you pull your throw up arm down, tuck it in and finish in the X position described in the video, your moment of inertia decreases and you swing faster. Pull your throw up arm down faster and tuck in faster you swing faster. In simple terms you can only swing as fast as you can pull down and tuck in your throw up arm. Try a few air swings and move your throw up arm down and tuck it in slowly and then swing and pull down and tuck in your throw up arm faster and see what happens to your racquet speed. It will speed up without any apparent effort on your behalf! You should be using both arms to generate racquet speed just like a pitcher in baseball and a fast bowler in cricket using both arms to generate ball speed. But you have to practice to synchronize the motion each arm to get the timing right and create the whip crack he talks about in the video. Check out a video of Ash Barty serving. Her throw up arm goes from being straight up to being tucked in, in the blink of an eye. Similarly Rod Laver back in the day.

A great video. I am not a big fan of your birthday hat method, but I always enjoy your videos. Thank you!

Great explanation on Pronation - keep up the simple analogy and examples.

great whip explanation. McEnroe has beautiful front arm positioning with elbow on tummy at contact. His whole body is very still at contact

best explanation of pronation I have seen, thanks Ryan

Truly amazing lesson. I love how you proactively know what question the viewers might have. The granularity of this is unparalleled. Kudos!

this is one of the best explanation serve videos i have ever watched. well done coach

Thank you... will try once in the court one day. Love your videos and been watching them a lot doublre and singles

I watched so many videos on serving and yours are absolutely the best! Not one if the best, but the best! Thank you very much for helping players like me

Thank you so much for the great lesson. I could understand easily.

you are really amazing how well your explantions are about the basic elements in tennis serve

Thanks Ryan. Great tips and refresher as we start our outdoors season for folks up north in western Canada -:)

This was just brilliant!! Thank you so much.

These are great videos - thank you for sharing your expertise!

Best explanation in pronation ever. Really helpful. Thank you.

Explanation is easy to understand.im learning thanks

Insane lesson! Thanks 🙏

Ryan, great video! thanks for this!!

Thank you for your class , master

Another great analysis Thanks

Thank you Ryan brilliant explanation. I can see where I am going wrong looking forward to putting your coaching to use in my next training session.

Very helpful…thank you!

Thank you coach, since a long time i knew i do something wrong with my service, i was working a lot with my rhytm and a lot of stuff, but i’ve never realized that i flex my knees during my toss. Quick fix and my service is much more fluid and better, because i toss first now, thanks, you are doing good job!

Really excellent Ryan.

This is pure gold

this is the best serve lesson series i ever watched

Great video!! Big thanks 👏👏👏👍👍👍👌

Useful and quite streight to point, good explanation, very good work this video - complinent from Germany!

Great tips as always!

Great explanation. I’m working on my serve and this helps. Thanks.

Tnx for the tips.

Thank you, and thank you so many times. You are a wonder coach!!!

excellent lesson Pal Perfect

Great video, amazing contents, very easy to follow and replicate!

Nice coach I will try this thank you..❤

Great video !

best teacher ever! you explain all the science behind every tip. it helps us remember the tip while playing. I just realised I do mistake 2! very excited to try out today evening! can't thank u enough for your excellent videos!

Hi Coach Ryan ! I am Ravi from India and love your videos. We play recreationally at our society and your videos are a great hit !! Thanks !

This video has answered all my questions!! Especially on racket ball contact's position when serving.. 85deg!! Thanks so much!

Thank you!!!

Have seen this "knock your birthday cap" technique in many KZfaqs. And if it's good enough for the Fed, it's definitely good enough for me. Thanks.

I have stumbled around the court flat serving and doing all sorts of useless amateur mistakes. I play once every 6 months at best, so I'm not bothered. However the analyst in me always quietly wants to correct the physics of my performance this video has single handedly revealed why I can't play tennis for shit and exactly what I need to do to fix it. and its all so obvious when he points it out. -like i play cut and spin shots across the court , why did it never occur to me to play my serves like that? about the only thing i wasnt ballsing up was the bend before the throw thing. this is soooo good. thank you mate

I still struggle with pronation, when I first learned a serve in the 90s we were taught to snap the wrist down. To get more pronation would it be fair to say that you have to let the racket come around the body more during the backswing and then you just have to let pronation happen rather than forcing it?

Good job!

Logical and incontrovertible instruction about the pronation assertion on the serve.

great video. another great player to watch is boris becker. the way he holds his left arm at the end of the serve is just perfect.

Thank you so much for your great tips. Your explanation of pronation is one of the best. Keep up the good work. GBU.

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EXCELLENT content in an easy to understand explanation coach Ryan! I know what famous KZfaq coach your talking about, I found it pretty surprising also. I will put your tips to work! 👏👍🎾🎾

Very helpfull, thank you

This viedeo wiil help me out, to get better tossing. Thanks a lot.

Amazing video

it help me a lot improving my serve

Great video ryan! Having your arm pronate at the end of the serve is so important! Really gives you that pop. Are there drills that could help reinforce that?

You are a great communicator and instructor!

The birthday hat analogy threw me for a while until I remembered a similar tool from 'Feeltennis' about one continuous motion and a serve trainer with a ball on a string, then I understood what you mean. This helped me visualize the pause in my serve as a negative. I am working on a more fluid serve. Wish me luck

Thanks!

Wow - #5 I knew nothing about that. I don't think I do it (have never been taught that) but will check tomorrow on the court! And will ensure I'm tucking arm under! 👌

It took me a long time to understand the waiters tray as you call it. I worked as a waiter and I was stunned, that when my serves worked, I would go exactly through the waiters tray position. However, not at the beginning as you showed but actually shortly before coming forward where the elbow tip is already in front and high up. The waiters Tray is not straight up but a little to the left and the fingers are a little higher than the wrist pad. But waiters Tray was exactly what I thought and told myself again and again when my serves started working.

Great Solid Advice... for real players.

¡Gracias!

Love the whip sound

15:45 I find that the tossing arm automatically tucks in if it stayed up longer before. If I drop the tossing arm too early, it will tend to "get out of the way" and not form the X anymore by the time I have hit the ball. But if the tossing arm stays up longer, my body will turn into the arm drop, and then I get the X-like barrier. Everything is connected!

thx a lot。It does do me a lot of favor.

Ryan: Really GREAT video. So insightful and practical. I have one question/observation that I would love to hear your thoughts about. What you say about pronation makes a lot of sense, and the analogy to throwing a football or even baseball (assuming one isn't throwing a curveball) is on point. However, the point you make about the tossing hand tucking/pulling in at contact in the service motion to help accelerate the racket head speed, which also makes perfect sense, to me is an illustration of how the service is very different from those throwing motions. When throwing a football or baseball the free arm behaves much more like the tennis forehand - i.e., it rotates away, ahead of the throwing arm, to translate torso rotation into speed and power. No one would suggest that when striking a forehand, the free arm should tuck in at contact, although the foregoing logic relating to the serve might beg that question. What is unique about the tuck-in of the tossing arm in the service motion is that it helps arrest the body rotation (as you correctly point out), thereby accelerating racket speed. I don't know of any other sport where this happens. So a serve starts out like a baseball or football throw, but then ends very differently. To me this further illustrates why the service motion is uniquely challenging. What do you think?

I have 4/5 of these sins and working hard to fix them. Thanks! Also I recommend watching an entire pro match only watching the pros nondominant hand. You will be blown away at what is happening.

Ryan, I love these videos so thank you for sharing your insights. I just want to clarify one thing about the continental grip. Doesn’t it inherently put your racket in a “strings slightly down” position? I’m left handed, but I think I understand which bevel is number 2 for me. It seems to me that holding my racket straight out in front of me and then rotating one bevel to the left results in a slightly closed face - or have I completely misunderstood the grip?

Too great

rocking motion (forward back forward) in regards to knee bend

Wow. I make all these mistakes. Watching from Zambia❤️

I saw the same misleading serve lesson. When I saw that tip I couldn't believe it. Sometimes the pros when they try to slow down things to explain them they just teach all kind of things that they are not doing. Not to voluntary mislead but due to a lack of analysis about what they teach.

So talented

Agree with 1 to 4 , but I have to disagree with the 5. Top players when they finish serve always kick back the non dominant hand. Are you sure about the hugging ?

Hi Coach Ryan, I've always been wondering: when serving, does the back leg intentionally kick back or it is just a natural follow up after the serve? When I serve my back leg always goes to the side instead of kicking back as pros do. Thank you!

Is it possible to do an inside out serve?

My serve has improved a lot recently but the only way I find that i can hit a good second serve or 'kick' serve is to try not to hit across the back. Instead i try to hit the serve exactly the same as my first serve (which is very flat) BUT I keep my torso very much sideways on to the target which seems to force my racket across the back of the ball without me having to try it. This way I can still get power and depth on my second serve (including loop and swerve) whereas if I try to hit across it the serve is very feeble and often goes in the net. Not sure this is good technique but it workls for me at the moment! My second serve is much more of a weapon now and I can use it to serve out wide or hurt lefties.

This should be the most viewed tennis training KZfaq channel... also, thank god is not, so I keep winning matches ;D

Hi Ryan, this is all great and helpful to recreational players (with thanks). But they are still bio mechanics, mostly relating to arm swings being seen mostly at social levels. When will you make a video about the most fundamental aspect of tennis serve to get real power - the whipping motion and effect? Once one mastered this concept, the rest are basically given as well. It is not easy to explain and demonstrate. But with your excellent teaching way it will definitely deliver.

ENLIGHTEN: to give them more knowledge and greater understanding about something. I feel enlightened every time I watch your videos, man.

as far as coaches go who were your mentors and who inspired you , old school like Vic braden , Dennis Van de meer , Bollettieri? Macci would be in that class as well , I saw some great footage from Oscar Wegner who coached Kuerten to 2 french open titles. Let me know thanks!

what kind of raquet do you have?

that was good.

You are best

Valeu!

hmm what do you mean by forehand grip I use continetal for the forehand

I thought it was useful to rotate the body to gain power on serve, at same time i asked myself why i can't fall only with the left leg on the floor. 😄 Thx a lot!

My upper arm hurts when I try to do pronation, how can I fix it?

Right edge is usually in front on a slice but not always. Swinging out to the right with square contact will result in slice spin. No problem with your explanation as that is the norm but technically one can get slice spin with a square racquet face. BTW, although long axis rotation past contact is nice it is far from necessary as shown by Pliskova among others. For many people there is a trade off between accuracy and long axis rotation past contact. It is a natural move and trying to force it can be counterproductive unless a player is obviously holding on to the detriment of their serve. For some people it doesn’t affect their accuracy and it is preferable. Isner and Federer certainly don’t lose any accuracy.

Ryan: is this how u teaching to use the forehand grip ???😊 Other than that 1st part ; ur physical body is designed by nice tennis skills correctly! But u didn’t mention the serve is supposed to show the first serve and second serve; is this the second serve?

Good video. However you need to dig a little deeper on serve mechanics. forearm pronation is only a quarter of the story. Internal shoulder rotation is the driver.

yes, patric said that and I was confused!

Hello! Super video as Always. The pronation on slice serve. Mouratoglou is teaching the way you mention as incorrect. ;-). This one is complex. I understand the theory. But i would have liked to see a demo. With slow motion. From you of course! Not Roger :). Thanks a lot if it's possible.

The tennis serve is a crucial shot that can greatly impact your performance on the court. Learn it

Im going to me mindful of my racket movement tomorrow and will check if I‘m doing the „birthday hat“. If anyone is bored you could check my serve videos too, thanks 😇

you still didnt explain how pronation works for slice serve?

Again: YES, you can go around the ball from right to left for a slice serve. Actually that exactly IS the slice serve. The other one is an adapted pronated serve, which admittedly is hit almost all of the time by the pro players. That does not discount the slice serve though. The teachings are different and the players reflect that.