Avoid these travel backpacks. Get these instead.

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Avoid these travel backpacks. Get these instead.

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Күн бұрын

This is a super hot take! But these are my thoughts on why you should avoid certain particular popular backpacks and consider different options altogether. Backpacks discussed in this video are the Goruck backpacks, Nomatic travel packs, the Osprey 26+6 Daylite, the ULA Dragonfly, etc.

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@pmags1331 6 ай бұрын

Great video . No one on KZfaq talks about this . 7 kg is not a lot at all especially when some of the weight has to come from the backpack itself. You should do another video about this explaining what items takes up all the weight. Thanks for sharing

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

Oh that's a good idea!! I might do that for sure. That's a great idea!

@goinginzane 6 ай бұрын

Ah yeah other reviewers prob don't talk about this as much since these heavier bags are usually the most expensive ones (as insightfully mentioned in this great vid); pretty much every reviewer uses affiliate links for bags they review so covering heavier+pricier bags = more money for them. I'm not super opposed to this tbh since they gotta make a living somehow, but does make it make more sense why few of them preach the weight minimization philosophy that is held to a religious degree in some communities like r/onebag.

@koenignero 3 ай бұрын

Not to mention the 1,5 KG MacBook

@tbard 2 ай бұрын

@@goinginzane I mean even if they're heavy they have their uses, just not as a one bag travel backpack. They could just focus on what they're useful for instead.

@hyperpedro2868 Ай бұрын

I weighed the items in my backpack. Jeans and shorts with many pockets are adding some extra weight for nothing. And obviously electronics can add a lot. Going full usb with one compact charger can save some weight too. I saw some videos about 7 kg packing with fancy and heavy backpacks and the guy ends up packing only 3 shirts and 3 underwears because the bagpack and the electronics take all the weight. What is the point of the fancy bag when you limit yourself so much and have to wash your clothes every few days ?

@Ducayneau 6 ай бұрын

If it's too thin it'll be uncomfortable and won't be durable. You have to find the sweet spot between them.

@ricklbbbable 3 ай бұрын

Hi, I’m tired of watching KZfaqrs pushing to sell high priced, overrated and heavy packs.. Thanks

@jxemc Ай бұрын

Go look at the price of the ULA Dragonfly he’s pushing lol

@gavinmiller690 Ай бұрын

Yet my Gouck GR2 is 2 years old, looks like new & still going stong. Yes it cost alot but it is bomb proof & you can always rely on it. I would rathe buy once & travel care free, there is a eason it is still such a popular tavel backpack still where othes come and go.

@hyperpedro2868 Ай бұрын

@@gavinmiller690 Sure. But how do you pack it as a carry on in Asia with the 7 kg limit (which is the point of this video)? You really can't bring much when the backpack is already in the 2 kg range.

@dusaintel 13 күн бұрын

@@hyperpedro2868 yea exactly. And i bet since i dont see a reply he still is confused how do you do that math 😂

@Skate-n6w 12 күн бұрын

But that's capitalism for ya

@DaurenKurkenov 2 ай бұрын

Can you share list of backpacks that are lightweight and can be used for two purposes everyday carry and travel?

@hurleyfrancois4060 20 күн бұрын

I use a kid's backpack as my personal item, espeicaly on a budget airline. it's similar in size, and gets the job done all while being economical.

@fmzaidi2001 2 ай бұрын

Finally a youtuber with traveling common sense. None of those Nomatic and Aer peddlers

@snakejuce 6 ай бұрын

Idk who this dude is, but he made a great point. All the little ounces def add up

@tbard 2 ай бұрын

I mean... depends on the use. As a dedicated travel backpack for carry on luggage I agree that "a bag of fabric with some straps" is the best thing. Lighter and as big as possible, a 45lt is feasible with most airlines too. But they're just that, they have no internal organization and they suck for anything else. I think some of the others like the Nomatic (that is expandable to 30lt by the way, 20lt is just the "closed" capacity) are more of a everyday/business backpack that in a pinch can double down as a half-passable travel one. It's something I think you'd use everyday to go to work or stuff like that and if you need to do on a short work trip every now and then it can do that too, then empty it at the hotel, close it down and use it to go to the meetings/client office or whatever you traveled for. It also fits under the seat for most airlineswhen closed (except Ryanair in EU that I know of) So you could always just bring both. A good middle ground (imho) is the North Face Borealis (new one, not the classic). Plenty of organization and features but comes out at 2 pounds! It's not that expensive either.

@jakirahmcgillivray Ай бұрын

kay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations

@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 2 ай бұрын

what the fuck is an ounce?????????? hahahaha

@patrick1992 Ай бұрын

It's an ancient measurement system what people in America use 😂😂😂

@sh0 6 ай бұрын

Issue with the osprey is the comfort issue - no hipbelt and thin shoulder straps. Fine for a couple light trips, but if you're living out of your bag, something more robust is, for me, worth the weight. I travel with the Aer 3, and bring less shirts and underwear because they're all merino, and I can hand wash them in the sink anywhere I need to, so I don't need as many. I also pack my shoulder sling/underseat bag inside my Aer, so when I get on the plane, I slide this out, put my Aer in the compartment, and I have what I need during the flight, but when I am traveling to and from hotels and destinations I have a single bag made of rugged XPAC

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

I agree with you. It's why I feel the ULA has better comfort than the 26+6. But agree that if the trip is a bit longer than something sturdier and more comfortable would be preferable.

@Heimdall-hb5it 6 ай бұрын

Well these ultra light packs are oftentimes uncomfortable as f...

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

Don't get Decathlon :D ULA Dragonfly ftw! :D I'm joking but I'm actually not. Decathlon is really bad on comfort.

@Heimdall-hb5it 6 ай бұрын

@@Dracomies isnt the Dragonfly like 18L? My travel Packs usually go between 30 and 40L ^^"

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

It's like 24L for the main pocket and 8 L for the side pockets. So about 32L, it holds a deceptive amount though.@@Heimdall-hb5it

@Renni-kg6vf 3 ай бұрын

This is cool and all, but my backpack has never been weighed traveling, even the dozen or so times I've flied frontier I've been able to avoid even having my carry on measured

@hyperpedro2868 Ай бұрын

In South East Asia they frequently check the weight so you can end up with huge fees if you are over 7kg with lowcost companies.

@mrcvry Ай бұрын

So get Minaal bags. The carry-on is light but still expensive. Perfect! 😄

@Dracomies Ай бұрын

Or an Osprey 26+6 which is $100. New version came out a couple days ago.

@goinginzane 6 ай бұрын

This is a very well done video. Super insightful thoughts with zero fluff, got your helpful point across with great brevity. You've earned a sub from this travel enthusiast!

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

Thank ye!! :D

@LongworthLucyM 18 күн бұрын

Yes the color of the kislux is beautiful and it is a great decision, maybe one day they will add feet and straps. It would be nice to have a bigger bag during the colder months when we have to store gloves, beanies, scarves, etc…

@junun007 Ай бұрын

Backpacks are so heavy now! I'm actually looking into and hoping to pick up a KotaUL travel pack to try it.

@hyperpedro2868 2 ай бұрын

Haaaa finally someone who makes sense. Many recommended backpacks are more than 2 kg and it makes things complicated when you want to stay under 7 kg. Osprey has some interesting options ranging between 0.8 and 1.5 kg.

@klgc4690 2 ай бұрын

The look does count too!

@mdubb4855 3 ай бұрын

The Osprey 26+6 Travel Pack is a real gem. I has two compartments, one 26L and the other is on standby, 0L until you need it and unzip the expansion zipper. Brilliant! Opens lid style, all the way around, not halfway down each side like a day pack. If you want to go even lighter (but lose some capacity) the Patagonia Ultralight Black Hole Tote Pack is 13.5 ounces, getting you a true 27L. Better be prepared to swaddle your laptop or iPad in clothes though, no real laptop slot although I've used the panel where the optional backpack straps stow as a slot before.

@Martina-io2zy 29 күн бұрын

Hello, I bought Patagonia tote bag for this reason (weight 361g and size 27 l), but the comfort is terrible. So I switch to Thule Subterra 34 and now testing it for travel.

@mdubb4855 29 күн бұрын

@@Martina-io2zy yes that is the serious trade off. Osprey feels a little cheap, but size by size, they generally save half a pound. Don’t get me started on ultra HEAVY Go Ruck, Mystery Rsnch and similar tank like bags. I don’t object to Paty Tote 27L comfort issues because I just use it for flights and to hit their 7kg limits.

@shred_pow_pow 19 күн бұрын

I have an Evergoods CTB26 and just got a Dragonfly with X50. Not only is it almost half the weight, but I love the simplicity of it. Just out if curiosity, what do you normally use the exterior pocket for?

@ThatsPety Ай бұрын

This is a great point to bring up, but it does not apply to everyone. If for example you live in the US and only travel domestically it doesn't matter at all. If you're flying within South America only using your bag as a personal item bag than it very likely doesn't matter either.

@bluezzer Ай бұрын

1) Nobody weights your hand luggage. 2) Use metrics. At least stick to a one scale. 3) There are cabin size wheeled bags. So backpack is not the only option. 4) When it comes to picking a backpack, there are so many aspects like the shape, quality, practicality etc. Weight is the least concern.

@Dracomies Ай бұрын

The irony is that people who tell me to stick to one metric are the people who say they never get weighed. You do get weighed. I'm not making this up. You just haven't flown around 7 kg restriction airlines, that's very apparent from your post.

@bluezzer Ай бұрын

@@Dracomies I do fly with the cheapest airlines mostly. They sometimes check for the size of the cabin baggage. No one ever weighted my backpack. Maybe I am lucky. I don't know.

@robinsandell427 Ай бұрын

You’re right about avoiding heavy bags, but under no circumstances take 11 pairs of underpants - 3 or 4 pairs of merino underpants are enough. Hand wash every night. Lightweight clothes will be dry next morning.

@Dracomies Ай бұрын

Merino underwear is a no go for me. I like their shirts, not their underwear.

@viperz888 2 ай бұрын

totally useless since the limit is in kg but you're weighing everything in lbs and oz.... how do you correlate that.

@matthewsinger 6 ай бұрын

Are there really airlines where this is a problem? Size is really more of a concern. 7kg is 15 lbs. If your carry on bag weighs more than that, you'll want a roller bag, or to just check it. Lighter bags are nice, but only if they come with adequate support and suspension.

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

Yip! It's mostly budget airlines. So AirAsia (15 lbs), Air New Zealand, Cathay, Qantas, China airlines, Jetstar, Malaysia Airlines, Philippine Airlines, Singapore Air, Thai Airways, Emirates, EVA Airlines,

@matthewsinger 6 ай бұрын

@@Dracomies I never really considered most of those to be budget airlines. As an American, if I'm traveling that far, I'm probably bringing a larger bag to check.

@comradecrunch 4 ай бұрын

@@Dracomies Cathay, HK Express, Scoot & all the Indian LCCs. I am told that as soon as they see a GORUCK or 5.11 bag, they pay extra attention to the pax. Expect this sort of stuff to happen in the US soon as US carriers are beginning to nickel & Dime people post pandemic. Great post and i'm glad someone finally said this.

@hyperpedro2868 Ай бұрын

European and Asian companies start to go crazy with the carry on luggage. You need more and more a light bag in Asia (under 7kg) or a small item in Europe if you don't want to pay a big extra. The small item with Ryanair is very small (around 20L).

@haroldg1688 Ай бұрын

yes and no airline travel no. and at full retail price also no. but other travel (land, sea) and at discounted prices, i could use a new 1680D ballistic nylon bag. its a give and take higher heavier priced options are usually (not always) more durable. so depends on what you are using them for. plus 1680D is sexy

@lvchubby Ай бұрын

Totally agreed. Those heavy backpacks are overrated by some youtubers and content creators. Most people around me dun carry a laptop or camera around and dun really need those features, ruggedness or high level of protection. I always take public transport and walk a lot during travel. Those heavy paddings are a burden to my feet and caused recurrence of my plantar fasciitis. I'd rather have a light backpack with a slightly padded removable hip belt for heavier loads.

@snusmumriken232 21 күн бұрын

You just fired shots at all of my favorite lifestyle brands I like to do online shopping for

@pentwo22 6 ай бұрын

Some people are willing to trade that weight for better organizational compartments and a slicker appearance. Personally, I prefer bags that look better.

@dusaintel 13 күн бұрын

Ive been very careful for years now when I choose traveling bags. Youre right the osprey daylite kills all other bags in the industry. Nomatic and other for around $300? Bullshit and you cant fit shit in there. Im glad youre explaining the way you are - down to the underwear.

@rail7646 Ай бұрын

its about size not weight, every additional pound just give you more back gains :D

@anonymousmouse1032 10 күн бұрын

I google the two packs, 26+6 and dragonfly, and they both cost over 200 from what I could see. Gorucks seem to be over 300. In the later half of the video you say the heavier packs are pricey but I was looking at some Tumbuk2 packs and things like the Spire 2.0 weight two pounds and cost about $100. I'm no pack expert though. The recommendations just seemed off to me.

@Dracomies 10 күн бұрын

Osprey 26+6 is $100 everywhere right now.

@Salty_Biscuitz88 2 ай бұрын

Yes yes yes. This is my biggest issue with the bags that are hyped. They are too heavy. You can actually feel the difference when you carry the same amount of items. I have those for EDC as well but for traveling, i stick to Osprey Apogee or Aer go pack.

@afzaalahmad4457 2 ай бұрын

Please make a video, which would cover a branded backpack with 2 pants, 4 shirts, a laptop, and a sleeper within 07kg. Thanks.

@Dracomies 2 ай бұрын

Check r/onebag

@donvielenio8956 17 күн бұрын

2:00 that math might be a good selling point for the metric system.

@mrboobo3436 6 ай бұрын

Where have you been held to a 7kg weight limit on a carry on? I know there are rules in rare instances, I am just curious where you went that it was enforced. Also why do you switch metrics back and forth? You talk about the 7kg but then quote pounds on the back packs. If weight is so important why not get 28 liter bags or so that are just 12 oz.

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

EVA Airlines, Emirates, Air Asia. Here's others who share the same experience: www.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/18c4860/which_airlines_airports_are_strict_about_the/

@Dracomies 5 ай бұрын

Frankly at this point our experiences are very different. I've been measured at EVA Airlines, Emirates, Air Asia. Many others as well. @@scubasteve1555

@hyperpedro2868 2 ай бұрын

It is quite common in Asia to have this 7 kg limit. I got frequently checked with Air Asia, Vietjet and other lowcost companies. It depends on the airport obviously. Some don't care, others are hunting at it.

@WeiFinder 27 күн бұрын

My default load (for any duration) is under 7kg with the Alpha 31, I'm always amazed how I can live indefinitely while traveling out of 7kg. Makes you reconsider all the (nice) crap you have at home.

@Dracomies 27 күн бұрын

Dang but that backpack is $400 though :D

@WeiFinder 27 күн бұрын

@@Dracomies Yeaaahhh, and 70+$ shipping to Canada, plus replacing some of the buckle with fidlock hardware ^^ But it's like you're gone while traveling, I don't look at cost so much for this, for better or for worse

@jooky5 4 ай бұрын

Yeah but if I don’t have a 4lb bag I won’t be able to tell folks I use the same backpack as elite military operators 😅

@mysteryman33333 Ай бұрын

Get yourself an ATS RAID II pack. Weighs 2.5 lbs and was *actually* used by combat troops (unlike the Goruck pack).

@patrick1992 Ай бұрын

So give some recommendations...

@JunkieVirus 29 күн бұрын

sorry to be rude, I bought a couple of these lightweight bags. but there are not durable, non of them. they always tear no matter how good they claim they are. take some sewing lessons, and fabric knowledge and they all make the same stupid mistakes.

@Dracomies 29 күн бұрын

How much are you putting in these bags. I literally traveled with these everywhere. That said I use the ULA Dragonfly.

@arlencarlson 6 ай бұрын

another word of advice-avoid the airlines that insist on being cheap and weighing your carry-on.

@goinginzane 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately not always a choice for those traveling on a budget 🫤 more and more airlines getting picky these days.

@mdubb4855 3 ай бұрын

Easier said than done. China Airlines is particularly fussy outbound from USA (but don't check inbound) and so are Lufthansa and Condor.

@niranjansm 2 ай бұрын

whats 5 ounces?

@TheBigBlueMarble Ай бұрын

The majority of the time....the VASt majority....carry-ons are not weighed. This is particularly true of backpacks. The airlines just don't weigh them.

@chadh6815 2 ай бұрын

I've flown hundreds of times, never once had anyone ask to weigh my backpack. I'll agree, a lighter bag is better to save some weight on your shoulders. But I also wouldn't let weight be the top concern.

@Dracomies 2 ай бұрын

I'm literally the opposite. Fly just as much as you, but they check. If the website specifically mentions 7 kg as the total weight allowed you can bet they'll check.

@chadh6815 2 ай бұрын

@@Dracomies The US or international? Lately most of my travel has been in the US and Canada. But I've also flown some in Asia, Europe, and Africa and never had a carry-on weighed. But it's been a few years. I'm also not taking the budget carriers that make you pay extra for the carry-on and every other little thing.

@carlboucher6847 4 ай бұрын

Excellent video. Thanks

@AnonYmous-yu6hv 24 күн бұрын

So what backpack do you recommend?

@Dracomies 24 күн бұрын

Anything under 4 lbs. Ideally anything under 3 lbs.

@AnonYmous-yu6hv 24 күн бұрын

@@Dracomies can you be specific? Like what models for example? And I prefer 40 liters

@Dracomies 24 күн бұрын

@@AnonYmous-yu6hv I would go 28-35 L. I don't really go for 40. Check r/onebag for a huge array of backpacks. I don't like the Farpoint 40L though.

@AnonYmous-yu6hv 24 күн бұрын

@@Dracomies thanks. Isn't 35L too little for more than 3 days though?

@Dracomies 24 күн бұрын

@@AnonYmous-yu6hv Not at all. 35 liters can easily last a whole week. Check out r/onebag for strategies.

@Kira.raw. 5 ай бұрын

What gets measured gets managed!

@fabriziogargiulo7435 4 ай бұрын

Gran bel video come sempre. Sarei curioso di vedere un video sull inatek ma versione grande che potrebbe essere una soluzione low budget per molti quello che cercano uno zaino grande da portare in cabina

@ForLegalReasonsThisIsAJoke1 2 ай бұрын

mixing freedom units and real units of measurement is low key R worded mate

@PhilipStruthers 3 ай бұрын

Can you please just use metric units! Half of this video was you converting from stupid units to other stupid units. Use grams or kg, reference everything in g or kg. It's not hard to do math when we can just add it all up to 7000.

@Dracomies 3 ай бұрын

Everything was measured in ounces and pounds because that's what most people measure in r/onebag

@Martina-io2zy 29 күн бұрын

@@Dracomiessorry, that's not true. What's about us, from Europe.

@j_crust4582 6 ай бұрын

You'll never be able to seperate me from my 5 lbs A19 Evade 2.0!

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

haha! Of course! :D.

@Medsas 12 күн бұрын

what you say makes sense, however the osprey and the ula look ugly to me 😂 oh well

@Dracomies 12 күн бұрын

Bellroy Transit 28L or literally anything below 4 lbs :P

@Medsas 5 күн бұрын

@@Dracomies check out the new bellroy lite… 2lbs 38L 😮

@mscot 3 ай бұрын

Simple. Don't wear underwear.

@turner02 2 ай бұрын

wow, you is good at maths

@arthuslim Ай бұрын

Glad I'm not alone in my obsession with weight of backpacks.

@codak29 6 ай бұрын

Nobody is weighing your carry-on. Roller luggage doesn't even fit in the little cage, no one cares. If it fits in the overhead bin, it flies.

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

It heavily depends on which airline. Emirates, Air Asia, EVA Airlines, Jetstar etc will weigh you. Here are others who went through the same thing: www.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/18c4860/which_airlines_airports_are_strict_about_the/

@patrick1992 6 ай бұрын

Come to Germany or Poland 😂

@Dracomies 6 ай бұрын

Germany is definitely on my checklist. I'll go there someday!@@patrick1992

@Dracomies 5 ай бұрын

I think when it comes to onebag reddit they've been very knowledgeable regarding ways to lessen weight for travel. Also I experienced firsthand the issues they mention regarding 7 kg restrictions, so I wouldn't discount what they're saying. The point of the vid is that with some of these heavier backpacks you run the risk of the 2-hour metal carousel and it's better not to take that chance.@@scubasteve1555

@Dracomies 5 ай бұрын

I have been personally measured, ie AirAsia has done it numerous times. EVA Airlines quite a few times as well. You likely aren't going on the same flights as me. Qatar as well.@@scubasteve1555

@bungabening3530 4 ай бұрын

You only need one pair of underwear for a 12-day trip. After three days you turn them back to front. After another three days you turn them inside out. Three days later you turn the inside out pants back to front. Voila! Same applies for shirts! Glad I could help