Ville Mononen thanks a lot!

Might wanna hurry, it's been getting harder to find for some rain, at least in the US... Not sure why they would discontinue it, no official word either tho.

If you can afford it the 15mm f1.7 is one of the sharpest lenses for MFT and is faster than the 14mm while only being slightly bigger. There are dji versions of it too that are optically identical but you can pick up cheaper than the Leica branded ones.

Thanks for the suggestion Joseph! Looks like a fine lens indeed. I like the colors through it, it's beautiful simplistic in design plus the aperture ring. I appreciate the praised sharpness, but for me, it's not the be-all-end-all anymore. Even most quality vintage primes are certainly sharp enough (but rarely wide open of course), but with the vintage look that i often seem to prefer over the "digital". That said, quality vintage wide-angles are few and far between (often not that impressive on m4/3), so it's a bit of a different ball park. I wanted to mention that only to say, that sharpness isn't all that important anymore. Well, there's good use in both worlds, both appreciated. Manual delight when there's time and space to slow down (which i prefer), AF for faster moments / added convenience (and possible frustration with contrast AF) 15mm 1.7 is small, but not small enough for my wants. It's seems it's the difference between a small normal lens and pancake i'm interested here. Plus the price difference, i'm sure i can find the 14mm for very pleasing price in good time. It's a matter of time, patience, and some keen eye. And i'll be using it for video, so it's all good. Cheap, quality pancake that performs well, it's there with me wherever i "throw" it? Sounds excellent to me. I would jump on the Leica with no hesitation if it would have image stabilization and weather-sealing, but as it stands now, i'm not jumping on it per say :) But maybe the right moment comes around in the future, if i'm that invested. Thanks for the heads up, have a fantastic day now!

Own it myself and love it. Haven´t changed lenses since i own it xD. Only downside, not weather sealed & stabilization...that´s why iam thinkin of trading it. So scared getting this beauty messed up when i go outdoors.. Thought about gettin the 12-35 f2.8 instead, i know it´s 2.8 vs. 1.7 but, weather sealing and IS comes with it. I do own a 12-60 f 3.5-5.6 which is sealed as well.. Does it make sense to upgrade to the 12-35 and therefore give the two others away? Any thoughts/comparisons?

indeed great except for vlogging, it does hunt at times, but not even close to 20mm or 25mm in terms of focus hunting

What are you doing here my hero 😁

i have the Laowa and i bloody LOVE IT! :)

Apparently an even bigger secret is that Olympus (with 100 years of optical manufacturing history) also make Micro 4/3 cameras and lenses - not that you would know that from this video :)) Suppose JHG is an Lumix ambassador.@@JulianMakes

@@markhoffman9655 I wish Mark, i'm still pretty green when it comes to filming, but my Laowa is incredible really, considering it's miniature and F2 and SO WIDE (for a mft :) i've only got 4 other lens, all the others are lumix though :)

renevp2 me too which color grade app??

@@xianjohn9031 You can do it with any software. Premiere and Da Vinci Resolve are the best, and the latter also distributes a free version. Color grading is a matter of skill and knowledge, just like filming, directing, editing and so on. If you're lazy and have money to spend, buy LUT packs from KZfaqrs and other cinematographers. Ask Nigel, maybe he can give you some for free...

Olympus lenses are better than Panasonic lenses tbh

@@brodcastization Depends. I have only 45mm 1.8 and it's indeed great. But Panasonic 20mm f1.7 as well and 12-35 f2.8 and 12-60 f3.5-5.6 too. Last one is flawless as versatile travel lens and it's very sharp. I can name two lenses that are far from perfect and these are old 45-200 and 14-45 I think both from 2009. I guess Olympus has some worse pieces as well.

Gerald Prost that's good to know, I'm probably going to get the 42.5mm next!

Love love my 15mm 1.7

That is encouraging, I have the same combination but not used the lense in anger yet.

I've just got the 14mm 2.5 (v1) and sold couple 14-42mm (v1) in the past, so i don't have them to compare right now. The main reasons for selling the zooms was that i started to prefer primes / film lenses, optics were certainly "good enough" (but wanted something better), and 12-35mm 2.8 just rocks so much that there wasn't the need anymore. 12-35mm is costly though, and that's always a consideration. Primes such as 20mm 1.7 are optically great, small and that's what i prefer nowadays. Without direct comparison, i'd say optically the 14mm and 14-42mm are roughly the same for stills. "Good enough", but not great like 20mm 1.7, or 45mm 1.8 etc. etc. Is the speed jump from f3.5 to f2.5 big enough, i wonder... Maybe. But the jump from f3.5 to ~f1.7 territory is SIGNIFICANT, that's for sure! However, the 14mm 2.5 is really nice in many other regards. It's so SO tiny (even 20mm now looks huge), so light-weight but has a good feel to it. It seems like it's well-built, well thought-out. Simple and good. Very quiet, and the AF works nicely in video too. It has many good things going for it, and i think this will be a keeper. I will work around it's "good enough" optics to shooting styles that make it shine (maybe close-ups and BW for starters), and for video it's really great. That's where it think this lens really shines, shooting video. But it's good in general use aswell. So lovely on smaller bodies too, like the GM1 / GM5 etc. But when comparing to 14-42mm, how was it again? Prices for both are roughly similar (though the zoom is cheaper), both AF well and are relatively quiet. The zoom has Stabilization (which is certainly nice and a plus), but doesn't matter all that much at the wider 14mm end... In the end, i think it boils down to if you can appreciate the smaller (tiny!) form factor of 14mm 2.5 as a benefit, and the slightly faster speed as some possible bonus. Otherwise, i'm pretty sure you can expect the same quality and fov from both, the zoom might still serve you well. 14mm is still 14mm. Jumping to 12mm (or even wider) would be WAY noticeable in my opinion. Do you prefer shooting wide, and if so, how wide? Something to consider.

Ville Mononen awesome thanks so much bro! Where did you sell your 14-42 at and how quickly did it go? Thinking of selling mine

I live in Finland, so the climate for available items / prices is something else. Availability is typically more scarce, and whatever that brings about. Here the best place to sell is www.tori.fi. Perhaps the US equivalent would be Craigslist, assuming it's still relevant? I usually spend good time in producing stand-out pictures of the items i sell. Good lighting is the most important, maybe some soft gentle light like sometimes in the kitchen etc. Light diffuser / extra light helps at times. I also often spend good time in writing about them, in honest but uplifting manner. Others are the better judges. But it seems people respond rather well most of the time. Euros should equal to dollars in these prices: 1. Early 2016 the prices were around 100€. 2. January 2017 one was sold for 85€. 3. June 2017 another was sold for 60€ (it had a small scratch of the front element, bundled with another Sigma lens). I'd say, fair price seems to be around 80-100€ still. It's a kit lens, thus very common. But not as common as the Olympus equivalent, and out of the two, the Panasonic lens is more sought-after (I.S. does it). For me, lenses are easy to sell (usually buy and sell vintage lenses). Especially now in this time of heightened interest. Selling camera bodies can take a longer while though. Usually i sell lenses during the same day, or within few days. Many people contact, and i contribute that to the care i put forth on the pictures / description. I enjoy the process, and try my best to strike a balance between an ok price and good presentation. Nowadays i can charge a bit extra for the effort put forth, they go all the same. Still, i don't want to rip anyone off, so the best is to keep it fair and nice. I'm just a hobbyist.

Ville Mononen ah okay sweet, thanks so much man!

Nicolas Lachance he said g6

Nicolas Ladouce clean the shit out of your ears....

wow crazy how the internet makes people be so rude

Nicolas Lachance i know, for some reason he feels the need to resort immidiately start insulting you, kinda sucks...

Why are kids watching camera lens videos?

Quite late reply. I would not recommend 20mm 1.7 for filming at all. It's good for stills only. It focuses slowly, it retracts a bit during focusing and this has two huge cons: it's noisy and focus hunting is very visible (and audible). Loss of image stabilization is not a significant issue if you have image stabilization on sensor (G80/G85/G9/...). It might be ok in manual focus mode (fixed focus), but I'm not sure if it's suffiecient for you. For stills I'm choosing 20mm/f1.7 over 12-35/f2.8 mostly for "social events". It allows lower ISO or shorter times and less motion blur in low light situations and it has natural angle of view without zooming half way.

The 17mm f/1.8 additionally is nice because it has the manual focus de-clutch like the PRO ones. Focus-by-wire is such a drag and Olympus has found the solution, without having to go fully manual all the time. Unfortunately no such implentation on the absolutely gorgeous 75mm f/1.8. The 60mm f/2.8 Macro is one of the better macro solutions out there, it really is. The f/2.8 zooms are incredible, with the 7-14mm, 12-40mm and 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO lenses (and 1.4x TC) you can go from 7-210mm, 14-420mm 35mm equiv. with just 3 lenses (albeit pricey ones). You could argue that they have a tame, precise and a bit cold character to them, but you can't argue that they're just quality lenses. The 12-100 f/4 IS is a gem too, played around with that and an E-M1 Mark II at a Photokina afterparty sorta event last year. Though, f/4 definitely doesn't rock my boat personally. Great for daytime event type of shooting however. These Panasonic lenses mentioned in the video are fairly budget. The f/1.7 range is really good value. Of course that 20mm pancake is super small and the 25mm super affordable, but nothing that blows me away. I'm rather pleased however with the Leica 15mm f/1.7, for a Leica it's actually not at all overpriced, it's superb value! Great looking lens. The 42.5mm f/1.7 is very nice value as well and was the first Lumix prime to get OIS. Then there's third party. Not that a big fan of the Rokinon/Samyang/Walimex lenses, they used to mean very soft wide open and just not holding up very well and being all manual of course... supposedly nowadays there are a couple that really nail it though, but I haven't delved into that too much. But Sigma is doing awesome. Back in the day they had the EX DN 19, 30 & 60mm f/2.8 primes (the first two initially with grippy ring, later like the 60mm all flush metal). Mechanically they weren't the greatest, optically however true contenders and they were extremely cheap! These days it's all about DC DN. The 30mm f/1.4 DC DN is out and it's something else! They should officially launch the 16mm f/1.4 any day now. The ART and Contemporary series by Sigma are just such great value and quality, it's hard to go wrong. Then there's a whole bunch of others. Like Voigtländer... their 17.5mm f/0.95 is amazeballs! SLR Magic e.g. has the HyperPrime CINE 25mm T0.95. Zhongyi/ZY Optics/Mitakon has a very compact and more affordable 25mm f/0.95. Laowa has the 7.5mm f/2 MFT. Veydra has a cinema primes line-up of T2.2's around the 1000 bucks mark a pop. C-mount, or C-mount derived lenses are becoming a thing. 7Artisans, Kamlan, Zonlai, Meike, Neewer, etc. A brilliant thing of these mirrorless cameras: sensor stabilization. Even with 3rd party or vintage lenses, you can get away with some handheld shooting! Whether you're adapting a whole set of Contax Zeiss primes through a simple C/Y to EOS adapter and EOS to M4/3 Speedbooster or Lens Turbo (or the same that goes for Leica Summicron-R (E55)), going with the (Jason) 'Bourne lenses' (Nikon AF(-S) Nikkor ED 28-70mm f/2.8 D & 80-200mm f/2.8 D (throw in the 17-35mm f/2.8 D for good measurement) or the stills versions of the expensive Tokina Cinema AT-X range: AT-X PRO DX 11-16mm f/2.8 II, AT-X PRO FX 16-28mm f/2.8 & AT-X 535 PRO DX 50-135mm f/2.8 or legendary Angenieux design AT-X PRO II 28-70mm f/2.6-2.8. Or anything else vintage with M42 (Russians! Like the Helios 44-2 58mm f/2), FD, AI(-s), PK, MD, etc mount... you just have endless possibilities and joy!

Shiznutsz you should have a channel of your own :)

@@arneshsengupta4636 yea we both think alike

I have lut packs on my sellfy account that achieves a lot of these looks

All lenses mentioned on the video (except Sigma 18-35mm 1.8) are native, aswell as the 20mm 1.7 and 25mm 1.7 you mentioned. Optimized for m4/3, often in size aswell. Lens + adapter would show up in noticeably bigger size / bulk (especially in comparison to these little tiny wonderful pancakes). Pros and cons to both, each their own use. Still, there are some adaptable mounts that can be somewhat smallish in size too. Like the C-mount (TV / Surveillance) for example, but rarely used to for "serious" work. Or Leica L39, Konica AR, Canon FD etc. etc. Konica has had some nice pancakes / small lenses back in day. Soviet / Leica / Leica-clone lenses for L39, like the Industar-61 for example (great for macro). Not pancake, but small nonetheless. Furthermore about adapting lenses -> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZeqgrOUuLDco3k.html Well, welcome to the mirrorless community and happy shooting! You'll be capturing great shots in no time. Be well!

The 12-35mm is tack sharp even wide open at 2.8. I absolutely loved it and would say you really can't go wrong with that lens, and the original version is getting cheaper now that the mark 2 was released. I used to use C mount lenses on my EOS-m but with those, i feel like it's a hit or miss, like the Fujian 35mm F1.7 c mount lenses I've found to be really soft at the corners. but the Michael 35mm f1.6 is significantly sharper. but those are fun to mess with cause thyere so cheap. Thanks for tuning in Nate!

the 50mm 1.4 c mount lens is great

Sorry to take Nigel's spot here. The G7 is a good video camera, as a second camera i would suggest you would chose a camera that supports 4k and 1080 HD which the G6 doesn't. GX80 is a good alternative and affordable. Still the G7 remains an awesome choice.

All Things DanDan. No, I shot this on the gh3 and g6 they both don’t offer v-log or cinlike d. I shot in natural with all the saturation and contrast turned down. Hope that helps!

NigelBarros it does thank you Nigel! I’m just reading so many conflicting opinions with the Cinelike d profile. Not much information on -noise reduction to +noise reduction and haven’t done any tests myself yet. Thanks again. You the man!

Might have to try some stuff with the natural setting though. Have seen a lot of lovely footage with similar settings.

thats an oxymoron - "pull focus by wire" :-D

And yet you got the point ;-)

I think the same. That’s why I sold the 12-35mm, and I’m a little sad... It is an awesome lens, awesome focal range, fantastic stabilization and quality. The thing is that I use the GH4 for video, and I’m getting manual primes (I have a 25 1.8 and 12 f2, and I plan to buy the Laowa 7.5 soon and maybe a 45mm or so later) because AF isn’t an option, and the manual focus by wire is a disaster working with follow focus systems. If you use cinema rigs, it’s alright with the lack of internal stabilization of these primes.