Some units that will help you easy clear the new Steel Fortress B10 Dungeon!
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@d1d2k3g4 жыл бұрын
The dungeon AI in this game made PVE more infuriating than RTA...
@GLIEPNIR4 жыл бұрын
The more I play Summoners War the more I appreciate the Ai and qol stuff in Epic 7... And that game is crazy as fuck.
@tlkfanrwbyfan87164 жыл бұрын
Fran’s AI just died. I think they did something with her AI And LUSHEN AI IS STILL SCREWED
@cherriagana4 жыл бұрын
The amount of times i see my 2 vampires just cycle skill1-3 and ignore the skill2 is just infuriating.
@rhealize4 жыл бұрын
bella and eirgar AI makes me face palm most of the time after the updates, well theres other too but this two are ridiculously stupid AI.. i cant...ughhh
@u-law81494 жыл бұрын
That means go to come to us blog and tell them you want a buff to monster AI with beneficial effects blocker
@immrjonesyy4 жыл бұрын
moral of the new dungeons: Com2us still needs to improve AI
@affenaxt36474 жыл бұрын
@@anewfuture Have fun trying that. Its not a necessity for the majority to keep playing, so unless every youtuber mentions this in every video they wont give a f. Better AI=less runs fail/runs are faster=less people need to buy runes with real money=loss for com2us We should be happy that they give us the 6* only opportunity.
@karkasos4 жыл бұрын
Com2us actually designed these dungeons to make manual farming faster and more consistent than auto farming, hence the choice of requiring buffblock, a rare effect that is NEVER on S1. Improving the AI would be counterproductive.
@immrjonesyy4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Laplante I dont think thats what they're for. They're to add a new mechanic to the game and give us a wider varitety of units to use. Its also not even just with these dungeons, the AI is garbage in everything else aswell. It should atleast recognize when its optimal to use a skill such as a strip or defense break when its needed and corrolates to what u need to do to kill a boss. Galleon shouldnt use his third skill when theres one unit left in giants waves. AOE skills should be prioritized if there is more than one monster on the field, and the unit should be able to recognize when their skill will actually take effect, such as Rica not using her thirs skill if there is immunity up, or prioritizing a strip when theres benificial effects on a unit
@karkasos4 жыл бұрын
@@immrjonesyy Then why their long talk about the fun of farming and of playing manually? ;)
@Sinnersslayer4 жыл бұрын
We hear and say that since the beginning of the game. They give a $shit. They just want $$$
@mc_gravity694 жыл бұрын
I've watched my Eirgar not use his S2 for 10+ turns multiple times, the AI is ridiculous
@failandia4 жыл бұрын
Zinc is wayyy better in that regard
@PooPooPawChew4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is super frustrating
@GLIEPNIR4 жыл бұрын
And yet Come2us keeps on ignoring the problem...
@FarazKhan-dr5ow4 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that Bagel's "wacky leftover" runes are straight up dream runes for half the viewers on this channel.
@BellyBacon4 жыл бұрын
half? you mean 90%
@lil1ice1864 жыл бұрын
Compared to Bagels runs our runes are completely crappy.
@alduinthetyrant52253 жыл бұрын
After watching a handful of his videos I had to sell most of my runes because I realized just how crappy most of my account was.
@soratsubasaki87493 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't need to watch his videos anymore if you had runes beeter than his xD
@mhh01114 жыл бұрын
Summoners war: "We want to make this a fun, strategy based game" AI programmers: "Naw"
@teachersama4 жыл бұрын
The Steel Fortress' runs depend exclusively on the block beneficial effects skill. That's why you might always need two units that have that skill to guarantee a succesful run because Eirgar's AI is dumber than Lushen's...
@TheHollowBlade4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this dungeon but the entire focus on stopping beneficial effects is kinda really stupid. the entire run depends on how fast you can get that debuff on the boss. if you fail to get it on you die if you get it on you win. Its so basic and really stupid. Changing it so he doesnt do more damage per debuff and making the towers a bit stronger to compensate will make it much better i bet. in other words 4 buffs makes in almost unkillable 0 buffs means he dies. Could open the idea of strip teams instead of buff block units?
@TragicPlayer14 жыл бұрын
2 mons with beneficial block doesn't guarantee a win. I have Pungbaek and Silia, and still can't beat B7. I threw on Elsharion, so if he does get beneficials they would be mine. Still cant 100% win.
@k.a.greeley52543 жыл бұрын
Jewbagel: You guys don't even have 180 speed violent rune sets. Me: I'm insulted by the truth of that statement.
@adamjackson85144 жыл бұрын
Bagel doing videos faster than we are clearing the dungeons lol 😂♥️♥️
@Ashasverus4 жыл бұрын
What's up what's up, I'm Bagel and I haven't slept in two days!
@aekatorance4 жыл бұрын
Get some sleep silly!
@berndwieboldt50974 жыл бұрын
You don't need 2 units with beneficial effect block, just one that uses that skill. Eirgar hates his S2 and avoids it at all cost.
@abimaeldiaz27404 жыл бұрын
That's why Zinc is better, he uses his 3rd all the time and lands debuffs
@joshuahutchings43054 жыл бұрын
tbh they want us to block beneficial effects and land dots but the accuracy system dose not work so its just more rng
@Hordil4 жыл бұрын
This night I made an unawakened wind vampire 6* .. he has no s3 so much more s2.... so good!
@manyeown4 жыл бұрын
woahhh thats a really good idea
@blackkyurem7204 жыл бұрын
But after he lands s2, his s3 good for the dmg speeding up the run
@Hordil4 жыл бұрын
@@blackkyurem720 Too Many Ifs, If you ask me. 😅
@frumpyglint4 жыл бұрын
yoo i may have to do this too, thats a good idea. was already getting ready to build a wind witch.
@fyuira95854 жыл бұрын
So same idea with abigail for nb10. Unawakened for no s3. Nice idea bud. Haha
@senyoraplaygames47274 жыл бұрын
I love how you showcase other units beside from the common teams. That is the reason im watching ur vids because u are so unique and always fun to look at.
@AG9884 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Bagel! ❤️ It was very helpful. I’m so glad I have Chiwu. I cleared B10 with Chiwu, Loren, Raoq, Fran and Colleen.
@kingbyouchoob24884 жыл бұрын
Good job pumping out all these videos Bagel. People appreciate it man
@mircocubaine12004 жыл бұрын
Bagel : leftover runes Me : wow i wish i have this runes
@SSKev1214 жыл бұрын
+180 spd loren. My very BEST set I have in the game is +176 lol. Cant afford to have them on Loren either.
@Linkforlife1994 жыл бұрын
I've been using Eirgar (L), Fran, Loren, Raoq, Laika and so far it only begins to fail when Eirgar dies before he can Weaken the boss (he is still a 5*). He is still 5* as he sat in storage until this update came out.
@Seanidor4 жыл бұрын
For people who only have accounts that are a few months old maybe try Verdehile(lead), Fran, Loren, Silia, and either Kro or Naomi. You may get better runs with Naomi because Silia's AI can derp sometimes and not cast Curse soon enough. When that happens Silia and Kro might stack too many dots and take up the important spot for the anti-buff debuff.
@TheJVAproductions4 жыл бұрын
Bagel: Blacks the screen so we cant see the channel Chat: shows the channel he entered immediately
@foivosanargyros27874 жыл бұрын
He didnt wqnt us to see the channel he was before
@Royfokker734 жыл бұрын
After 6 years, Chiwu gets some devilmons
@MrGouldilocks3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for showing me a strategy that I can do with multiple nat 5s, so helpful.
@jamierogers96954 жыл бұрын
Just need to summon pungbaek and chiwu and I'm set
@bleakheaven92784 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video? There are literally so many f2p options
@jamierogers96954 жыл бұрын
@@bleakheaven9278 yep :) my team uses dark vampire Lord and wind vamp atm, it was a joke
@revenantmuffin47304 жыл бұрын
Maybe they could buff Water Vampire now? He also blocks beneficial and could use it for the Attack Type change due to artifacts.
@F1reshard4 жыл бұрын
Even though it's not f2p at all, i've been finding great success using Rahul as a lead for steel fortress. His leader skill, turn cycling + team survivability with skill 2, strip + block on skill 3 and overall pretty decent AI led him to straight up hard carry me here. I finaly found a use for my only ld5 in 6 years i'm so happy lol
@valseedian2 жыл бұрын
this man told my story a year before I got here. Rahul in 2016 was garbage. I was so disappointed. came back in 2021 and he's actually usable
@christopherfiore9603 жыл бұрын
If I ever get back on my alt I'm throwing Morris into the mix on this and loving the ridiculousness.
@MrFrisMich4 жыл бұрын
on the punishers crypt i found a pretty safe team, with your help and ideas. So i just stuck, aside from fire vampire and rica (u can use the fire homie here), mantura emma and fire panda, runed with r5 runes, back when we still used him in r5. Really just mixed sets on him, a set of guard one new set where everyone gets +8% hp and another one of the new sets just with the deff one. Deff, Hp, Hp he has +56 spd, so optainable for everyone
@AsiaN_Pride34 жыл бұрын
Eirgar’s AI is straight garbage.
@philipbeadle64463 жыл бұрын
Finally a place where I can use my Rahul and not be embarrassed by the horrible runes on my ld5
@DummyCrosS4 жыл бұрын
If you use any vampire and the derp, stick imesety inthere. His ai will give a turn to the vampire so he gets an extra chance to use skill 2. Speedtune him to move right after the vampire, or anyone who block effects.
@q227.4 жыл бұрын
I watch you're videos while I grind giants b 12
@DailyThingsInLife4 жыл бұрын
I use the wind vampire without awakening it He will be the fastest unit and always use the second skill when it's available
@anderszimmerman24284 жыл бұрын
oh my god... YOU ABSOLUTE GENIUS!
@mal420friendly34 жыл бұрын
Chiwu is my only bloc ben at momment so i use Pang in there to make sure that effect stays all up on there. side bonus, she reduces beneficial effect turn on boss and atk slow.
@winloveg56194 жыл бұрын
I really like it when he says fire puppy
@googoomoomooxD4 жыл бұрын
Dark Mystic Witch is also good! Use the not woken up version.
@user-td4fv2ov4i4 жыл бұрын
enough for us these new bosses and light commands. show me how to get through a new dimensional hole!
@JesseJames-zk7eu4 жыл бұрын
wind beast hunter doesnt block beneficial he only removes
@wariocart354 жыл бұрын
He does apply block beneficial effects
@wariocart354 жыл бұрын
Nvm he doesn’t. I misread the description
@NochnVideo4 жыл бұрын
He used to do, but now he doesn't
@DrunkPanda2394 жыл бұрын
Noch'n Video sigh wish he kept it.
@wafflemon18584 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Nisha. Might be time to take her out of storage. She has buff block, attack bar reduction, and buff reduction. Plus she is a fire unit. Also, I have not tested yet but I'm building 2A Aeilene for this dungeon. Her S1 can potentially keep boss out of fight and she bring massive bonus dmg from her passive. Pair her with Kro and the boss will go down in a few hits.
@mikecampau4384 жыл бұрын
Just for people to know my experience. Ive been doing verdehile lead, fran, loren, eigar and mav. The reason im using mav is cause i dont have kro or roaq. I know i need one but i just joined back recently but if you have a kro or a roaq id recommend putting them in for mav in this team. Between the vampire lord loren and fran, i already have 5 debuffs. Combine with kros 3rd skill and basic putting brand and dots, he will be constantly pumping out dmg. Roaq is nice because he lowers more peoples skill cooldowns and all the people on this team have good useful basic attacks. Fran and loren attack break, spd break, def break, and att bar lower, verdehile attack bar increases, and eigar deals dmg and gets his 2nd skill off cooldown faster in case he missed.
@madiieliza13434 жыл бұрын
The most trouble I'm having is with the AI, you just have to watch as the vamps continue to use their first skill when you know the second is up x'D
@spencerwillson94034 жыл бұрын
Another strategy is to use the ben. effects against the boss with praha/juno's predict future. It kills the boss in 2 hits
@Crocodilfirefly4 жыл бұрын
Light pirate captain worked pretty well too
@proxsea74964 жыл бұрын
In case people dont tell you enough, thanks for the videos you put out.
@devin39554 жыл бұрын
I started using Chiwu and Pungbaek together too made for really consistent runs.
@thomashudson51924 жыл бұрын
are they both full devilmoned up because my chiwu pungbaek keep using s2 before boss... its annoying asf
@devin39554 жыл бұрын
Thomas Hudson Nope that’s why I’m using both if I had Chiwu maxed I’d probably just use him. And yea they do derp but I also run Xiana and Masha so even if they get dismounted and need to wait for chiwu/pung to buff block I can still get a ton of damage off
@ginoelbasha76054 жыл бұрын
Remember: you dont need the speed if you sync your team well you can use att crt dmg att teams also
@rimtautaszilenas88414 жыл бұрын
For people who have zinc, he is mvp for this dungeon: extremely safe option: zinc, fran, loren, kro, verde (verde lead all poop runes and around 99% win rate) slightly faster but not as safe: zinc, fran, raoq, kro, verde Zinc needs to go first to block beneficial effects event before first boss shield so its goes faster. Kro is better than raoq because with all debuffs he kills the boss in couple of shots :)
@i3yaz4 жыл бұрын
15:50 Jewbagel: Can we edit this whole part out? Editor: No
@Koukin874 жыл бұрын
i'm using 5star Zinc right now, ai working quite well - he always prioritises the 3rd (spellblock and atk-break aoe) only downside, he has 1 turn more cd then the vampires
@TheCaptainHERO694 жыл бұрын
i use vamp lord fran loren raoq and zinc ( zinc is not even 6* ) it never fails, pretty easy to obtain, does its job. may not be the fastest team but it works
@Mathmani4 жыл бұрын
If I'm not wrong the Suri does not have beneficial effects block.
@simonsmn34914 жыл бұрын
If u take the old Korean lushen 4 raoqs nb10 and replace lushen with fran (not even on vio) and it works really good!
@theryuuksensei90854 жыл бұрын
i think could be interesting Pungbaek(L),kro,loren,sillia,fran so pungaek as a clearing of waves
@olliefishlock26494 жыл бұрын
Do you get stunned with more chance if you have beneficial effects? The 3 star team seemed best because the only beneficial effects you have is attk increase with fran's immunity, which means you can't be stunned? With the dark vamp lord you have the vamp effect so more chance of getting stunned?
@lil1ice1864 жыл бұрын
I knew Silia had potential no one never saw it until the day steel fortress arrived.
@infamouswolf66554 жыл бұрын
mystic witch, called it
@emmanuellopes77364 жыл бұрын
You're right man , my gina can be useful again lol
@sath60894 жыл бұрын
good thing i kept my gina in storage for years..... these lnd nat3s might just save your day, you just never know when.
@thisweatherisbullshit2 жыл бұрын
I have the pungbaek team and you'll never guess what happens when I run it. I don't win because my runes suck
@runemannaerts2454 жыл бұрын
its pretty easy to make the ai work tbh just make it buff always has +2 priority then you can have +1 priority towards what is calculated to do the most damage or the debuffs can both be +1 priority and then it can just let the ai work and that would make the pve ai be pretty good
@u-law81494 жыл бұрын
Hey Bagel wht about fire and wind sniper for Punisher, or does she not glance They could potentially be good for Steele Fortress as well......thoughts?
@ZombieAteMyBrains4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jew can you try Beast Hunters and Sniper MKs monster woth ignore damage reduction effects. It goes through shield.. Wonder if you can make a spd team out of that.
@iggytekula4 жыл бұрын
What about to bring Rakshasa? To extend harmful effects specifically blocking benefits and shorten buffs?
@lovestruck37734 жыл бұрын
Works very well from what I've heard
@ronaldgoodman68084 жыл бұрын
Been testing out Zinc and found him more consistent than many of the other units because his block beneficial effects is s3. AI seems better for using it
@F1reshard4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed the same with Rahul (I know not f2p unfortunatly :/) but yeah having it on skill 3 makes it much more reliable i think
@breezybee96934 жыл бұрын
Can you plss make a video what to do or what to focus on the new summoners war 6.0.. Many of us Early game players dont know what we should do now... GB10 has GB12 already but 45-60% chance to finish for us beginners.... Please make that video to guide us... More power
@oxx-fit4 жыл бұрын
Pang is mvp for keeping the beneficial effect removal & dots in place
@lukewright91453 жыл бұрын
No Pang, who do I use ?
@nichelbichel64643 жыл бұрын
I just realized, wouldn't the wind twin combo work as well? Melissa ignores all damage reduction effects (also effects the boomerang) and Zenobia prolonges the harmful effects on the enemy. And then a unit which takes beneficial effects and puts a block for beneficial on the enemy for example Megan. Now, for a f2p "friendly" team (since it is helpful to have a bommerang), Let's take Mellissa, which is a Hall of Heros this month, if possible a boomerang (Zenobia was an HoH as well) Megan, Loren and X (X could be Verdehile, Kro/Raoq, Spectra, or whatever, I'm not sure) I'm definitly no expert, just sayin XD
@michaelmyers54964 жыл бұрын
I think this is the point com2us was trying to make. Maybe we should manual battle to use the skills that require a success, instead of an A.I. that can’t/ won’t use said skills when you need them to.
@crazypigguy70654 жыл бұрын
Not many people will want to manual farm for the hours required. But I get your point,
@superconqueror12814 жыл бұрын
Bagel I was looking through my monsters and it seems that fire samurai looks like a good dps for sf because his secret skill goes through any damage negating abilities
@justsitwatchpimp43534 жыл бұрын
8:09 my fastest vio set is +90 on triana lol 😂😂😂
@lovestruck37734 жыл бұрын
Ooof. I consider myself early mid game and my fastest vio set is +153
@fiestafire57814 жыл бұрын
I dont have raoq but i use hwa, and since i dont have fran i just use ritesh for his lead skill and the occasional heal. Boss doesnt take a turn
@beauchampfrancois151 Жыл бұрын
I'm just starting and haven't had time to level all basic units. Can I replace the fire inugami with Kro? I'd rather level only one that has more uses... Thank you.
@Mistrah34 жыл бұрын
Dat face flex for 32 speed 21:39
@korvix95364 жыл бұрын
Com2us channel: *U S E M E G AN*
@TragicPlayer14 жыл бұрын
This boss is too bulky with a shield every time he is attacked. It should be every time he attacks. My team is Fran, Pungbaek, Elsharion, Silia, and Roaq and I still cant easily beat B7
@lil1ice1864 жыл бұрын
I may not have pungbeak but at least I have Chiwu, Silia, Fran, Roaq And Kro. And they get the job done.
@wymattison4 жыл бұрын
I know her other kit isn't as useful but wouldn't Gina be better as a buff blocker than Silia because the block is on a three turn cooldown s2 that has perfect ai?
@lukewright91453 жыл бұрын
No pungbaek, what to do? I just summon over 100 wind scrolls, no luck
@wi11iam2x4 жыл бұрын
My light dark account could use some help with the strategy please put up a video soon for the new dungeons on that account. Would love for you to see my account its made alot of progress here recently
@moist_soup72154 жыл бұрын
I finally get a team for all 3 rune farming areas. Im rage quitting for a week since i have to START ALL OVER AGAIN
@thatrandomguyo14 жыл бұрын
Start all over what? It's literally only an improvement. Just farm like usual and work up to this.
@RoxasAU4 жыл бұрын
I bet ya BeefStu is stoked his wind vamp will shine now haha
@179317932486504 жыл бұрын
Lushen is brutal with his AI but Vermos screws with me more consistently by constantly not using the second skill when I want him to. I saw him use the first skill 6 times before he finally decided to use his second skill to finish off an one enemy with no hp...
@stephaneehouman1924 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you.
@destoc56614 жыл бұрын
All these years, I feel like I am fighting against the AI (autorun) more than the dungeon .....
@kaseykyle6954 жыл бұрын
Suri used to have a anti buff till his nerf
@nishblaze3 жыл бұрын
omg with those 3 main units and dark vamp and pungbek i beat steel 8 for the first time!
@sexyhinatahotty4 жыл бұрын
This dungeon is the easier of the 2 tbh.. the other one my main success team have been elsharion lead, veromos, 2a raoq, rica and bastet.. give good sustain and dots for the boss but is kinda infuriating some times when the aoe give the towers attack bar sadly.. but have been pretty consistant from what i have been doing at least not that much fails
@rodneypearson11294 жыл бұрын
All the damn vampires I am going to fuse
@xylzengaming64684 жыл бұрын
Ignore damage reduction buffs doesnt work on boss. Laika and suri won't work
@condescend67724 жыл бұрын
zinc is the best one imo, always prioritizes s3, very good ai
@nukestorm79174 жыл бұрын
No one is using the water string master i would like to see her in this dungeon
@ma58804 жыл бұрын
Because is useless for this dung, when she gets a new turn the effect over
@nukestorm79174 жыл бұрын
@@ma5880 maybe in speed team to kill the boss in 1 turn
@ma58804 жыл бұрын
Maybe work, but you will need a good RNG everytime as well
@chaisewallis71103 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think Com2us secretly has a RNG on if our units will use the skills that are ready 🤔
@marcusbroady61413 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on the 2a pixie in steel b10? s3 block beneficial
@mannex54514 жыл бұрын
Suri? that the beast hunter is your list of "regret to 6*"???
@Cpt.Str4ng34 жыл бұрын
HAH! Finally Silia gets some love. Called it!
@chrisf.b.10564 жыл бұрын
Love it how my boy raoq is getting mor n more attention now!!!
@jost99644 жыл бұрын
Why I feel like this dungeons is also good for fire sniper 🤔
@mike656344 жыл бұрын
So I am using fran, pungbaek, vamp lord, bella, spectra. I might switch the lord for woonsa(dark pioneer) or zinc
@natedogg17774 жыл бұрын
I'm friends with Durand, too. What a coincidence!
@israelsanchez83664 жыл бұрын
I had a thought about using Gina unawakened since she only has her S2 for Beneficial Block. Has anyone tried this yet? My highest unawakened Gina is 5* atm and I don't have the resources to 6* her atm
@TheVanillaViking4 жыл бұрын
best update in yesar imo. i love being able to use too many monsters i love but never can use.
@pdly80364 жыл бұрын
Your videos is so helpful ty I pass SB10
@backonlazer7914 жыл бұрын
My Pung won't use skill 3 to clear waves when an enemy has def break =/ He likes to skill 2 them instead and then skill 3 when they don't have def break.
@fyuira95854 жыл бұрын
Just finished building wind witch, just need to buy witch pieces in guild shop for skill ups then off to farm for argen. Haha
@Bulkaslol4 жыл бұрын
One question, in the event i was going for miho but didnt get her till now, but could pick a zinc, should i pick him? I could then do the daphnis zinc team