"Which beast monster am I most attracted to?" This is a video I didn't know I needed. MAKE IT!!!

I’ve gotten used to it over the years, but Bagel somehow does all of these 30, 40, 50 minute videos in *one take*. Like seriously, that’s crazy impressive and it’s super cool once you realize it :)

2:48 *Werewolves* 7:49 *Warbears* 11:19 *Pixies* 16:56 *Fairies* 22:16 *Martial Cats* 27:28 *Inugamis* *_(Puppy Dogs)_* 33:03 *Griffons*

Bagel putting Icaru in C Tier DB12 Meta: *aight time to step in*

I personally feel Jultan is at least A for guild wars. Speed lead, both skill defense breaks, and can stun with skill 2. I stuck some speed on mine, nothing amazing but he's over 200 speed and I've been enjoying him more than just a damage sponge.

I would watch a waifu teir list. Lol

Even since 2a cats came out I started regretting every single time I fed a dark cat 😔😔

Icaru: You guys always act like you're better than me! Raoq, Kro, Belladeon, Ramahan: *wearing S and SSS tier sashes*

Thanks for making this it helped me out a lot so glad u made this

Its a very good tier list, but its a little problematic not having (A or A-). For instance, Spectra now is SO SO SO strong in ToaH that I can't see her in the same "level" or some others of the (A+ PvE) tier. Since its an "old" content people kind of overlook it, but for early/mid game she is amazing now, changed my runs from 4~5 trys (hard maps) to AutoPlay.

You tier list is actually very clever, and usefull: Everyone makes TIER list based on RTA, an there are only 1% of players who do that kind of PVP, the resto of mortals do C1 or lower. Thanks much appreciated.

This is really helpful for newer players. I just 6* Miho so I was pretty stoked at her rating. I’m pretty impressed by his ability to make things accessible and understandable even during segments such as these. He would be a great radio jockey!

I just want to say ramahan is great and no regrets about him

Boy how much this list changed through patches and monsters being added, list would be (mostly) all shuffled now

Man.. 4:19Am here in Italy, why am i watching this? I mean, i love you Bagel, but i need some sleep... Please.

JewBagle: I’m not here to say which monsters I am the most attracted to Also JewBagle : 27:07

4:50 Fire Werewolf got me through most of the story even before second awakening so now he is essentially a legacy character to me. Him Wind Dice, wind Lich.

Enjoyed this Tier list more than the other ones that you show us in the past

I wanna make Icaru work, I wanna know how the devs intended to use him, 'cause all the puppy dogs are amazing units, I refuse to believe otherwise !

Thanks so much for all the work and effort you put into your videos. This helps me out so much.

So glad Fire Inu is at the top. I was worried he would be at the bottom and all my effort would be for nothing

I like these long videos. I learn a lot (pretty noob), and I always get a little disappointed whenever you interrupt yourself saying "But I can't talk about that all day. Look at the time. Gotta go fast".

Icaru sitting in C Tier and now theyre speedrunning DB12

Dang was so happy when I heard waifu tier list...😔😔

The dark fairy gives a silence and glance and decent damage, so it's great for getting that awesome damage in the light rift :) I got rank 8 with her

Me- 2A tier list? Should be a nice and easy watch *sees 38 minutes* Me- I’ll take the challenge you evil bastard!

Hey bagel (and all), question, does water mystic witch and her 2nd (toad poison, if I recall) work well against DB10? Right crystal gives immunity, but her S2 blocks beneficial effects. Does it prevent the dragon from getting that immunity, or does it overrule that debuff?

My first ever time to comment on a tier list. Yo the wind werewolf is good!!! How dare you put the water war bear avbove him - that is tragic. Also Jultan is straight up awesome in guild content at the moment. He is great vs Loren and also Miho (def break, healblock, DoT, and built with low CR normally). WTF - Shannon! Above Jultan - I am crying inside.

Hey Bagel, does it make sense to redo this list as the b12 and the artifact dungeons just came out?

6:31 Very happy to hear that bacause i am building / leveling / 2a one right now 28:40 Glad to hear that too, because i am building one of those too

Bagel look at the 6 in the events page, what does it mean!?!?!

Wow I didnt know you were in a 7DS mobile ad until it played while I was watching this video, that's pretty cool man!

One of the Adamson brothers here! Love your stuff Bagel & eager to see your theories on the new 6 video!

Thnx for the usual, very accurate video. Would love to see you on Island grown's podcast ;)

I feel like Jewbagel's GW tiers are heavily influenced by being in really low level guilds lol. Loren is starting to take over higher levels, while a lot of Jeanne Skogul X defs are becoming less common. Probably also thinks he's worse because opponents have trash runes and never crit his Jultan. IMO he's better than basically every monster he put in A+ for GW, he definitely doesn't belong a full tier below. Also Aeilene's 1st skill damage is so far below the other debuff scalers. Guildie used her in R5 and, despite higher damage runes, she was lower damage than things like Hwa and Stella, let alone the big nukers like Kro, XL, Wind Martial Cat, etc. IMO She should be b tier _at best_ and only because she reduces atb on skill 1 which may be okay situationally, though I doubt it. I personally would put her in the bottom tier based on what I've seen.

Miho can also 1v3 Ragdoll, Artamiel, and Yeonhong This coming from experience

I use Naomi in Siege and Guild wars a lot. Naomi (L) Fran Loren is really good team against Khmun Skogul Vigor defences. With defense break and slow debuff, my cat one-shots 90% of skoguls, and vigor is a guaranteed kill. Also thanks for Naomi I finally finished Arena in C1

Funny enough i did try wind cat for rta/gw for awhile. 119 base speed and 100% crit is crazy nice. Now shes being tested for a front line r5 build. Which is going well.

Miho obviously the S tier pick for practical use and waifu tier list

Jultan is much more relevant in guild wars than fire werewolf though, budget rakan is yay but rakan is already pretty unused in gw for a reason :x Though I don't understand why Mina (also she's a miho counter if you put one debuff) isn't SSS, yes she's not great in pve but neither is miho and she's up there :s Same for elucia! Varus isn't great, maybe A+ Gw but not much better than that The rest seem pretty solid otherwise o:

Seriously, stop hating Icaru. His kit ABSOLUTELY makes sense. He is a Defense based Tank with utillity and still solid damage because he applies both a Defense Break AND an attack buff for himself. Build him full Def and still do ~15k Damage per hit. He is very similar to the Fire Monkey. but for some reason, fire Monkey is good while Icaru "doesn't make sense"? come on. I am using him EVERY SINGLE Siege Battle, almost every Guild war and he is part of a 15-20 Siege Def. 15-20 isn't great ofc, because its a mono Element team but still much better than most of the non-meta siege defs. (G1 btw) I even using him sometimes in RTA in a gimmick team. Only works until like F1 or F2 though ^^

You never talk too much for me bagel. You have to talk more, give me all of your wisdom and knowledge!!!

Cheers for the overview - great advice for focusing a second account - appreciated! Now go and make Labyrinth content!

FYI - Crushing hits kill dark cat easily. Orion, Gemini, and Draco all guarantee a crushing hit on S2.

I think Elucia should be in SSS tier even though she’s only solid in guild war and siege and RTA she’s so good in them it’s just makes her skyrocket I will pick her over a Diana

Last time I was this early I was able to leave the house

elle est cool ta video mec continue comme sa tes le meilleur

I sure hope one day people find a use for icaru

Love the content. I know it's mostly repetitive from the last 2a video, but things change and others are still worth repeating. :) Any chance of us getting a video like this about the rune types? :)

I have built an Icaru because I thoughtt he looks cool. Since then I have found out that he is a pretty good paired up with a Woosa to remove that one turn gap from the Immunity and also provide a speed lead and defense break. Not S tier or anything but actually usable.

Nice video great personality 🔥

Good job Bagel, enjoyng watching your content :)

Icaru (blue inugami) actually got me from B+ to an S score in fire rift beast, and that was before the 2nd awakening, when its MAX Def bonus that I could build was +2247. Now with the second ability, which takes on more partners, and with dark Harpu, I have gotten to a 1:17 time on necropolis B10.

Also Naomi has branding on her multihit and the same passive as Mina except 100% cr if the enemy DOES have debuffs.

Any chance we see an updated 2A tier list with the missing mons added? Or has it already been done and I just need to search through your content better? :P

Pulled a blue cat - thinks nice food for Miho - realized I hadn't deselected last mon too late and watched a nat2 eat both. Cried a lot and wrote large stickit note on monitor - "LOCK GOOD MONS". Cried some more

Icaru is good in the Tricarus strategie. It is one of the best strategies for cairos and fire beast

I use fire fairy a lot, but only because i have none of the good AoE strippers, and I think it's the case for many people. As soon as i get one of the good AoE strippers, storage! That said, she pairs extremely well with Savanna because of strip + slow : StripSlow -> Savannah(AoE def- and ATB-) -> cleaver -> Jamire (L) -> repeat

I use the water inugami with feng yan and emma for gw/siege offence, i honestly, love him, such an underated unit, that counter buff on every attack is underated, and he has self attack buff and def break as well, truly underrated

5 months later... Seing light griphon naomi and spectra in the tier list kill me inside😂😒

Thanks Bagel, was always confused on which 2A'd mon to build and didn't want to waste Energy/Time on a Potato Tiered Mon :D

Kahn is S tier for me. He is a fast HP bruiser with an amazing turn cycling skill two and a skill three delete button.

Nice video! Can you make a 2A Ursha video please!

This is not about 2A units, but i`d like to ask if you could do a showcase on the fire babaric king. I wanna know if his 3rd Skill ignores Triana, Miho and Garo Passive. Thanks!

Btw if you make a waifu tier list, you better make a daddy tier list for the female audience 😌

nice video dude! really good this tier list

I’m pretty starter into the game but I want to do a secondary awakening should I do it on Bella

which is the software used for doing the tier list? the black bars??? thanks

wind Inugami is one of my main Seige/GW offence team. along Gany/Olivia and Bella/any defbreak.

Spectra 2A should be way up on list I use it every where but mine is almost 300 speed .

i would say, even at the time of this video, jultan is at least gw/arena a+. he is an amazing cunter to seara, loren, perna. i use him with triana+perna or raki. he is super easy to build... high hp and high def, decent res... nothing else matters. doesnt need speed. his job is to let people break on him.

Good old days of 2A water doggo at potato tier instead of the S+++ dragon team

7:12 They really disappointed me with Jultan. Better stats (obviously), but no HP scaling on first skill, they just put a mere dot and nothing else. The only good Werewolf is Vigor, to me, because it has everything a good 2A Werewolf should have, there's nothing to complain about it (excluding Eshir which is god tier and doesn't need anything on first skill if he gets a oneshot with third one).

I builded a Cheryl and i use her on bomb stages of Laby. Not much of a use, but she's still fairly decent.

Like a vid on which monsters are worse as 2nd awaken w/o skill-ups. I.e., Bernard would not have reducing cool down and damage buffs so is he really better 2nd awaken?

I'm surprised at how low you put Jultan especially considering you've 2a'd 3 of them on your main

Short Summary: All Inugami are worthy to awake 2nd, Werewolf Blue and White, Cat Black and Blue, Fairy Blue and Red, Bird Yellow and Black

Hey Bagel, can you make a new video for F2P teams for TOA/H, Rift beasts, DB/G and which 4-5* that can replace? At least the F2P part!

I think dark fairy is used a little bit in RTA. The 3rd skill is nice to silence a monster for 3 turns, unless they violent XD

Did you take down your video that showed all of the future 2nd awakenings? Can’t find it for the life of me Edit: I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN HE PUT WIND INU IN S TIER I LOVE THIS DOGGO.

Cassandra best waifu Jew you know that.

As much as Jew likes Eshir, Jultan, and Spectra, I'm surprised he put them where he did. Also surprised he put Mei so high based on what everyone else says. I'd honestly put Shannon at the absolute top. I do go out of my way to use her everywhere. Except the base stats, Aeilene was actually nerfed with the second awakening.

What is this program you are using here to drag and drop units?

Light Griffin should be in the B-ok tier, because they use this in the mid/high level Guild Seige/War agains Mihos and Martina. Another niche but needed if competitive. Other than that, this list is well thought. Nice! Some might not really get how tier lists works but for me this is well thought. I just hope com2us fix the water doggo if it should be def type or speed type. they should just make up their mind. and/or fix the conditions in increased team up because it's really broken.

Just wanted to add to this tier list light griffin is definitely useful and against that SSS tier dark cat in siege try it out :)

In addition that 2A wind fairy do damage to R5 boss according to debuffs, her s1 also push boss atb to zero because the boss can not be stunned 🙂

I bomb dark cat because bombs don't crit and can do massive damage that ignores defense while stunning. Says after new 2a came out.

good to hear that 2 of my fav 2as are SSS Tier

is 4444 still active? watched your 2015 vid and found it and just wondering if it is still active.

Icaru in the garage verdahile steps in hold my beer db12 speed runs

Fire inugami is my favourite, he saved my time alot, clean and clean

Literally the only thing I have a problem with is Bernard being in S tier. What nat 5 can increase atb by 45% and give a speed buff? Pretty sure Frigate was considered one of the best atb boosters in the game because he had 50% increase, but Bernard might be better than him now. I don't know if the 5% extra atb or the speed lead is more valuable. I think Bernard should have been in the SSS tier.

y'know, I was just raging about my 24-26% crit light units ALWAYS critting on Miho in the arena, then I remembered light has element advantage which gives an extra 15%. But then, my Thrain, who has 20% crit, ALSO always crits Miho. This game is just busted.

Bagel: I'm not afraid of anything but that thing... That thing scares me Dark Cat: Hi there Bagel: sajdfgkaslghcqhcglui vqea

Bagel does the new Com2us video mean that the game is going to hell or we are in hell

I guess Icaru was pretty pissed after this video and decided to show us who's boss.

BAGEL I just saw a video from SW that says "66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666" I just counted, there are 100 6's in the still frame What monster is 600?

I wish i watch this earlier, I just began this game 3 days ago and lucky summon 4 star water, but feel so pointless now

this was indeed very enlightening. Given hoe precious second awakening resources are, it's good to know where to apply them best

New sub here.... New from sw fam :)