Loudspeaker Design: Anechoic Chamber VS. Listening Room

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Axiom Audio

Axiom Audio

3 ай бұрын

In the realm of loudspeaker design, there has been a suggestion from an industry insider that designing loudspeakers in a listening room, rather than an anechoic chamber, could be advantageous. However, this notion lacks practicality due to the inherent variability of individual listening environments, whereas an anechoic chamber provides a standardized baseline unaffected by room influences. This baseline is supported by scientific evidence by Floyd Toole, demonstrating a direct correlation between measured performance in an anechoic chamber and how a loudspeaker will be perceived in a typical listening room. While there may be instances of fortuitous adjustments or applicability for do-it-yourself enthusiasts in utilizing a listening room, an anechoic chamber offers a standardized testing platform crucial for the mass production of high-quality loudspeakers.
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@donc5423
@donc5423 3 ай бұрын
I will give you that there needs to be a baseline method of measurement. But I also know for a fact that speakers will almost always measure better in an anechoic chamber than a typical living/sound room. Ceiling height in North America and typical room dimensions with parallel walls for the average person means you will get standing waves, unwanted HF reflections and cancellations. The anechoic chamberl will almost always outperform the real end use environment. I think the average person may get better results if they spent some money on room treatments or DSP than upgrading their speakers. Just my opinion.
@Adam-bv5kt
@Adam-bv5kt 3 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me. Some of these "industry insiders" like to cause a stir for clicks it seems. Anyone with common sense would agree that you have to have a baseline.
@sudd3660
@sudd3660 3 ай бұрын
i like how you put it, and for my experience with loudspeaker design as DIY project: do the crossover and major things with as good measurements you get get, then do the room correction yourself by ear, or tuning as professional speakers builder do in those listening rooms. i need to eq any speaker in the end anyways.
@davewin1792
@davewin1792 3 ай бұрын
It's very logical what you're saying. You need to isolate the speaker for a Baseline measurement that has little to no room interactions. I'm sure these same people believe in double blind tests.
@edbrumbaugh9202
@edbrumbaugh9202 3 ай бұрын
Well put, thank you!
@sevenlayers7L
@sevenlayers7L 3 ай бұрын
Seems like some don’t necessarily comprehend the concept of ‘standardized’ or ‘controlled environment / experiment’?? -Welcome to Basics 101 They say ignorance is bliss - But in this case I would argue that ignorance is just plain ignorant..
@adsph
@adsph 3 ай бұрын
Well said. I have no doubt your research and products speak well. Keep up the high standards.
@marcelomarchetti5189
@marcelomarchetti5189 3 ай бұрын
Ears and measurements. It is not the propaganda or the cost of the piece that one is buying. Certainly not the drivel spewed by the "experts" of TAS, Stereophile, or KZfaq "influencers" whose focus is to preserve their livelihood coming. (Not to mention recommending expensive cables because "they" can hear the difference between an $8 and a $1,000 interconnect!)
@PM-zg6zv
@PM-zg6zv 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be great if you would come to my house and tweak my system for perfect listening pleasure. Maybe you could get that elusive eleven!!!!
@bergennorway
@bergennorway 3 ай бұрын
Downloading REW is free, and a measuring microphone like UMIK is not expensive. MiniDSP is not expensive either, and there are "tons" of videoes about these topics here on KZfaq. It is the cheapest upgrade you probably can do.
@drewwilson1477
@drewwilson1477 3 ай бұрын
Sadly science takes a back seat to marketing these days. Far too many pundits in the speaker industry with hidden agendas. Follow the money..... But first purchase Dr. Floyd Toole's Sound Reproduction Loudspeakers and Rooms. Then purchase a product appropriate to your room size and preferred listening SPL. Technically music genre should not matter.
@status101-danielho6
@status101-danielho6 3 ай бұрын
Would you rather own a loudspeaker that measures well and consistently win double blind listening tests due to evidence-based science and sound engineering, or would you’d rather trust an audio reviewer incentivized to maintain an aura of authority, advertising revenue, and ongoing future product review pipeline? Personally, I don’t bother with the true-believer drivel that comes out of Stereophile, Darko, The Absolute Sound, Positive Feedback, Six Moons, Soundstage Network nor Stereo Sound.
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