Same here, after the investigation, I'm sure the airforce will bring a B1-B from the boneyard and have a replacement flying again.

Glad the crew is safe but that tail was junk

Why are planes bombing Syria taking off from SOUTH DAKOTA?? That's WAY too far away, the planes wear out too fast, like on the way back.

@@brianbrandt25these are tactical aircraft which can easily exceed over 24h of flight time, these bombers can be re fueled mid air extended the initial scheduled flight time

@codyfrisch4378 Yes, some of them are over 12,000hours, . Structural upgrades are underway at Tinker. They are doing amazing work. The 17 that were retired required $10-30 million each, they had over 14,000 hours on them. There's B-1s undergoing structural failure testing as we speak, the wings take 2 years and the fuselage 6 years of testing. There's a big push to fly these beyond Raider IOC. This wasn't done in the 80's. Their AGM-158A/C JASSM/LRASM missile mission ensures they'll be around for a while. 24 internal with new Boeing weapons rails extending that with 8 further mounted external. The B-1s just got new comms/avionics upgrades before the fleet went down to 45 airframes as well. The smaller fleet is supposed to help maintainers take better care of the fleet that's left.

What if I told you it was used to murder innocent men women and children? Would you still be sad?

@@Rider.WhiteHorse It's not the fault of the aircraft.

@@PistonAvatarGuy of course not, it's a murder weapon STILL in the hands of the same murderers.

@@Rider.WhiteHorse A weapon is just a thing, bud, it's not inherently good or bad.

@@PistonAvatarGuy once again, of course, no further explanation needed considering I agree and understood the first time. Looks like you're interested in lecturing and or debating. Sorry not interested. Good luck!

As a former firefighter and medic I’m legitimately jealous of you and your step dad. That must have been an incredible experience to be a part of building something that was / is so crucial for our national defense.

@@cruisinguy6024 i must admitt i was blessed to grow up in a family that based their lives in aerospace. My real father spent his career as a UAV project manager 38yrs. My step dad as i said was a design engineer for rockwell. His first projects were on apollo space craft along with the X15. When Rockwell was slow Rockwell would farm him out to Lockeed where he worked on several projects L10-11 and the ac130 gunship and more. I still have original drawings from apollo and the X15 with his name assigned to them . My brother made a memorial to my father with his achievements to include more than 20 comendations from presidents and vice presidents and pentegon staff. Yes sir truly blessed i was .

I also think the people who designed the fusilage/wings/aerodynamics should be very proud too. The B1-B is one of the most gorgeous planes out there. Working on it must have been a joy.

my dad worked on them as an electrician. But was also involved with the crash of rockwell.

@@KJV0812 thats was my job discription also

Entertaining story, thanks.

Instruments, 1977 to 1980. Buffs,kc and ec 135s.

Yep, that accident occurred 17 November 1988, late evening. I was in the 28th OMS, working swing shift in bomber phase the night. We heard the news from one of the Eagle trucks and walked out onto the flight line. We could only see highlights of the fire, the ice fog had really reduced visibility. It was an eerie situation that night and I remember later seeing the tail radome sticking straight up was strange to see.

Yes, I was on duty that night and heard and saw the crash. The next day I was sent out by the Crash Safety Team to search the wreckage for the Crash Data Recorder (CDR) for analysis. It (the CDR) was damaged so badly that it could not be read by the standard equipment so the remains were sent to the manufacturer to recover a the data from the memory chips inside. This cause of this crash will likey be tracked to poor crew coordination/training in the non-simple approach as was the first crash at Ellsworth. Note that all B-1 "new" pilot training is done at Dyess AFB in Texas. The CDR has long since been replaced with a newer technology device with much greater survivability in the event of a crash. It will take quite a long time to publish the conclusions of the Accident Investigation which is punitive in nature and the Safety Investigation (whish is a separate and independent team) which is non-punitive to prevent recurrance.

I remember that

Do some research there was no weather in visibility was at least four or five miles maybe higher no fog the military is hiding something there are pictures from our surveillance camera at a business where you can see the plane burning and it's at least 3 to 4 miles away

God bless you, EVERYONE

Thank you much appreciated! Working on more content for next week. Cheers!

Not really.

I was at Ellsworth August 1976 to December 1979. 28th FMS welding shop

@@russvoight1167 2148 comm squadron here, ATC, yes best years of my life, Thank ourselves for our service brother

What are you talking about? Most everything can do that It's not a special capability.

The early shuttle differential braking/steering would have been useful in that case. I couldnt imagine derotating a shuttle Orbiter Vehicle without the NG.

It is very loud. Sounds like a Saturn V. Crackles and such.

The White Swan is the most beautiful 💙🇨🇦

@@crevis12 Ah, and also Canadian Goose! 💛🇨🇦

Looks just like the B-2 and isn't that unique a design. The B-1B is way better looking than the B-2 or the B-21.

​@@ImpendingJoker 100% Bad To The BONE 💪💪

Interesting.

Did you watch the video at all? It tells you exactly the information you need to answer your own interrogative regarding an escape capsule.

@@richwightman3044 Did you understand my question? 1:21 says that they "soon changed to 4 ejection seats TO SAVE MONEY". Whether they had a pod or seats is irrelevant in this accident.

No. Get a brain.

Problems would have happened long before the landing in this mishap.

It won’t be.

Surely it couldn’t have anything to do with lowering the standard for DEI and all the woke BS that poisons the military branches? Where was the SecDef? You know what I mean? 😔

Right!

And even more ironic that they did training exercises when they probably had access to weather information that would have predicted a possibility for icing when the crews were returning to land.

It’s most likely correct that your assumptions are the most likely explanations for what happened here.

Captain obvious has posted.

Very true. Due to the sleek, fighter type look the Bone has, from a distance it appears to be a smaller bomber. However, it's not. In fact it's surprisingly large (and heavy). And if you've ever had the privilege to be near one when it takes off, you will hear and FEEL how loud those 4 afterburning jet engines are. It's earth shattering - and awesome!

Protect your freedom?? Have you been sleeping the past 4 years? Trump eviscerated the bill of rights in 2020, shut the country down, made the clotshot, Biden then came in and forced the entire military and health care workers to take said shot. You're delusional if you think this country is free!

Yup down to 44, missing one from the fleet wont affect much as the lineup is long to get through their service life extension. Some of the retired birds in the last cull had over 14,000 hours on them required $10-30 million each in rework just to maintain safety of flight. Their joints are sore, the last 2 decades of crazy ops tempo has worn them down, they need rework. The remaining fleet has 12,000 hour aircraft. There's an assembly line that is in the process of reworking the fleet and structural testing that wasnt done in the 80's, IS being done now on an airframe(wing and fuselage, we're talking 2-6 years of testing. Another airframe was disassembled and had digital copies of all parts created as to not have to engineer new service parts from 1980's drawings. I find it impressive just how much they are investing into the bomber.

didn't know b1a ever in service , that thing flys well over mach 2 at twice as fast as b1b

@@Funktastico B-1A's were never in service, but they did a lot of continuous test flying between the program cancellation and the start of the B-1B. It was during this period that one B-1A did crash.

@@MrCateagle With the capsule failing resulting in a test pilots death(Doug Benefield). A riser guillotine failed causing the capsule to miss landing on inflated airbags on the capsules front right corner. Crash was in 1984 during #2's 137th test flight. Only the first 3 B-1As have the capsule, the 4th B-1A prototype and the following 100 production B-1Bs have the 4 individual ejection seats, 1 for each crewmember.

WOW......

Two of the B-1s and the B-21 are named in honor of my father, Richard O. Joyce, A/C-Pilot, crew 10, Doolittles Tokyo Raid. April 18, 1942

Are those in the new prius???

Diversity, Equity, Inclusion

Updated in what way?

You have no specifics but you think they should divert. Why didn't they wait for a clear sunny day to fly.

Great question!

I'm pretty sure this is the first ever Beatles reference on my channel - Bravo Zulu!

ouch

Maybe Lloyd Austin was flying? 😅

I was there too and this sounds like this is about that crash

More importantly, were either of the pilots forced to have experimental untested gene therapy procedures within the last 2 years?

@@msmeyersmd8 👽

Hmm, woman pilot?

@@avigator 👀😇👀

lol diversity hires ...... you know it's a growing factor. Diversity over Merit. Today's mantra

lol, amen brother! You know it

How much integrity they have to do what is right regardless of what is going on

I say we start a new petition to get rid of this white elephant. Call your Congressman to have this program terminated.

@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp while I can understand why you want the project cancelled now and funds diverted to other projects, it has to stay in service until the B-21 raider is fully operational. Bombers always have been used by politicians for showing resolve and projecting force. B-2 is too complex to deploy in areas that may not be suited to hanger it and to apply the radar absorbing material it needs. The B-1 can be deployed anywhere and it has been.

@@scoobysnacks8544 "The B-1 can be deployed anywhere and it has been" - where? What war has the B-1 been decisive in winning? NONE! Would the US mainland be any less secure if these expensive turkeys were sent to the bone yard? Of course, it wouldn't. Every flight of these planes steals millions of gallons of irreplaceable precious fossil fuel that our grandkids will need. And, as these current wars are showing, in 2024 - US "force projection" is meaningless. The carriers in the Middle East are being withdrawn. Useless! And if a shooting war started with Russia or China, this 40-year-old airplane will be irrelevant. Shot down by missiles before it even gets to its target. The US needs the zillion dollar B-21 like a hole in its head. Stealth is a scam. Our enemies already know how to defeat it. Besides the US does not need the "Nuclear Triad" anymore. With nuclear subs, in 2024 a concept that is way past its sell-buy date. Let's cut the US military spending in half. Stop the US bankrupting itself. Already $32-trillion in debt. The US is on exactly the path the USSR was on in1991. Destroying itself with out-of-control military overstretch and spending. Pretty soon there will not be a US left worth defending.

@@scoobysnacks8544 Yes, major avionics upgrades have been completed and major structure life extension works are underway at Tinker AFB. they've set up a little assembly line and working through the fleet. Dont forget about the US$5 million tents that can hangar and air condition the B-2. The B-1's swing wing allows B-52 loads to be flown at 1% the RCS, and from shorter runways with Mach+ capability. Of course nothing like the RCS of the B-2/Raider LO platforms.

They are already paid for and there are surplus aircraft

Was the bomber GPS compromised, like the resent crash of the F35

Because that system isn’t more precise than the Standard ILS available at Ellsworth, which will take you to 200’ and 1/2 mile viz. I don’t know if the B-1 has auto land for Cat 2 and Cat 3 approaches that would allow landing in lower viz conditions. The bottom line is, unless there was some sort of avionics or mechanical failure, the pilots should have flown the approach to its minimums and if there wasn’t sufficient viz, executed a missed approach. Most likely pilot error. The fact that they were able to eject calls into question whether they descended below minimums. Oops

The weather caused ice to cover every square inch of the plane. Nothing can keep a plane aloft under these conditions.

A PAR approach is a “Navy” precision approach. Ellsworth AFB being an AFB has a cat 2 ILS approach which uses similar minima as a PAR approach. This class A mishap was most likely due to WX vs mechanical or exceeding approach minima. It’s probably due to flying an approach in moderate to severe icing in which exceeds the aircraft’s weather capabilities.

@@Ceemysix Hmmm, my late bro and I used to fly 'coupled' approaches into Selfridge Air National Guard base in Michigan for practice. The controllers there enjoyed using private aircraft to practice their skills. This was all verbal guidance from the controllers, no classic ILS-CAT 2 or otherwise. They may have also had a VASI, this was 50 years ago-hard to remember.

@@brianbrandt25 Has that been determined yet?

What?

@@johnp139 read my lips: God Bless America!

That issue was resolved decades ago. The initial restriction was not a fault of the aircraft. The Air Force did not like the presentation of the ILS data display in the cockpit and therefore prohibited the crews from flying an ILS to ILS minimums. After the data display was changed to a standard type of presentation, the restriction was lifted. The requirement to not fly an ILS to minimums was a significant factor in the previous accident at EAFB back in 1988. I know all this because I was a B-1 pilot during that time frame.

@@user-fe8bf2lj2y Thanks.

@@user-fe8bf2lj2y Wow, that's so cool, what's your favourite memory of flying the B-1?

@@rickskellig4652 Hand flying (no TFR autopilot) the jet at low level through the mountains of Montana and Wyoming. It was amazing. I don't think they do that anymore due to restrictions on the airframe.

@@user-fe8bf2lj2y Yes there certainly are restrictions on low level flying. I don't know if that will change once the fleet comes out of its latest round of structural upgrades. Some of the 17 last retired jets were up into the 14,000 hour range. They've done/are doing structural testing taking at least one wing up to 29,000 hours and a fuselage up to 28,000 hours. They've taken another jet, took it apart and were making digital copies of all the parts to create new parts rather than using the very hurried design drawings of the early 80's.

13 thousand foot runways don't grow on trees........that's why.

The pilot

You heard wrong. Very wrong.

@@user-fe8bf2lj2y enlighten me please, it was all classified at the time, like I said that's what I heard it shouldn't be classified now if you know something I'd like to know

Not sure how you got 104? When I was working on them it was 100. 6 Had crashed since my time there, this makes #7. At the time we had the entire fleet to maintain. When I was honorably discharged in 2000, they shortly there after mothballed half the fleet because they knew they couldn't maintain them all anymore without my help and expertise.

Irrelevant, they are being retired.

Because video footage of a Secret strategic weapon is hard to come by.....Red Flag is war games held in Nellis and that's where that footage came from.

He didn't say that fog was the cause, only that the accident occurred during extreme fog and freezing weather

It was a training mission, with all that entails and implies. No report of an emergency declared while airborne (which could have ended with an emergency landing). Weather reports of dense, freezing fog. The aircraft came to a rest in the grass close to the runway with the landing gear collapsed or unextended. Either they tried to land with the gear up or it collapsed on landing or when the aircraft departed the runway. In no way did the weather 'cause' the mishap (mishap, because it was avoidable, as opposed to accident, which is unavoidable). There would have been multiple sources of the weather at the field, from the ATIS to Tower reports and possible PIREPs. Runway conditions would be known, including braking action. If the combination of the weather and the field conditions were unsuitable (weather below minimums for the available instrument approaches, or the runway braking action reports too low), a diversion could have been accomplished. Rapid City Regional is 11 miles away. Both Ellsworth and Rapid City have precision approach procedures to the northwest, Ellsworth also to the southeast. There are numerous requirements for a runway to have a precision instrument approach procedure, but they include lateral and glideslope information (critically, you are not allowed to fly below the glideslope unless the runway environment is visible and a safe landing can be accomplished). Additionally, the runway must be grooved, and if freezing precipitation is present, it must be treated (by precip removal or other means). Tower was open at both locations (approximately 1750 local at the time of the mishap). Did the crew 'push it' by trying to land below weather minimums? Possible, unless the weather was too bad to begin the approach, or they were doing a 'practice' approach with the hope/aim to breakout and continue the landing. Were the runway conditions worse than reported? Possible. The runway at Ellsworth is 13,497 feet long by 300 feet wide. The photo in the Popular Mechanics article (try a Google search) appears that the aircraft was attempting to land to the northwest (assume the photo was taken in the early morning hours the next day from one of the buildings at the field that are on the northeast side of the runway). Hopefully the aircraft can be repaired and is not strike damage (military speak for total loss), but unlikely. If there was not a mechanical failure that would have led to the mishap, the only other plausible cause is pilot error. If the weather was too bad at Ellsworth they could have diverted to another field with better weather/runway conditions. IN NO WAY COULD WEATHER HAVE BEEN A CAUSAL FACTOR IN THIS MISHAP. Maybe they just wanted to land in Ellsworth because it's a shorter walk to their cars in the parking lot. Maybe they wanted to 'see what she would do.' Maybe the pilots were both wannabe fighter pilots (more likely than you might think). Maybe they wanted to avoid the paperwork/inconvenience of going somewhere else. Maybe they were hungry and wanted to go get a burger. Maybe, maybe, maybe. And a million other maybes. But, UNLESS THERE WAS A CATASTROPHIC MECHANICAL FAILURE, it all comes down to pilot error. However, the real failure in all of this is inadequate supervision/leadership, to allow a culture in the unit that could have led to this mishap. But the Wing Commander/Deputy Commander, Training Supervisor (and all the 'higher ups') will likely not be held accountable. Hopefully there will be some accountability, more than with just the pilots. The same with the P-8 mishap in Hawaii, recently. Bottom line, pilot error, but that was only the last link in the mishap chain. There was a lot more that led to up to this. The latest estimate for a B-1 is $317 million. Your tax dollars at work (and mine and a lot of other people's). And the people we entrust with our national security just made our security a little less. When I was in the Navy, the worst judgement you could make was to call something Unsatisfactory (or just Unsat). This entire evolution was Unsat. @@tombutler7726

Pretty good, Tom Butler. But as A Navy Pilot I have landed in true Zero Zero conditions: Not something that should be done without special equipment and conditions And need. Retired a long time ago, USN.

@@jhconjr I also served and I agree with you, on most all your points. I think we are starting to see the fruits of our labors toward woke trends of Diversity hires and pushing the agenda of inclusion and equity. Time will tell. It used to be you had to have the right stuff. Now it just seems you have to have the right sex organs in most cases. I was there 93-2000, debriefed crews, saw the extreme level of professionalism on display. Top notch pilots.....now, don't know, who's to say?

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