I love how he said, some notable meta-night players are bonk

Bonk is the person talking just so you guys know

Where. The heck. Is BRAWLER

Ah another proguides tier list where captain falcon has still yet to show up mii brawler, a character that can cheese your stock at 40% with one grab, frame 3 oos, and fox-like movement is worse than mii gunner who has projectiles with literally only one up close, get off me tool. While meta knight is in the B tier, I know Bonk is a meta knight main and knows significant more than I do about the character but an entire tier above falcon and brawler seem weird. Still exited to see the next one tho.

Bonk with the Meta Knight bias lol

The only part i disagree is with Mii Gunner, i think Mii brawler is so much better

Falcon still ain’t here. Bonk play fatality for me and see how you feel after

I dont understand how Falcon at least isn't here or higher, the character got game changing buffs that gave him a better comboing raptor boost, his recovery got better, he has a command grab, and there were so many optimizations like IDJ tokyo drift, no impact landing, ledge slip which allows you to 2 frame with knee, 2 frames with dair, attack cancel combos etc. sure does he have a bad turnaround yes but so many things have been improved that it's more manageable, Even Fatality has been performing more consistently now and NickC will too when he gets offline back. No hate this is just my criticism but it legitimately feels like you guys haven't actually kept up with the Falcon meta and you just think he's mid tier because of that.

So many entries I really have no idea how to play them. I have no clue what to do with Luigi, Rosalina and Steve for example.

"who plays a mii" Well you see I like to have my creativity, Like in Soul calibre 6, I like to use my imagination or just make meme characters and annoy people.

“Who wants to play a mii.” I have one world on why people play miis, and mii gunner pacifically. Sans.

Bonk: who would want to play a mii? Me: me... their fun as hell

“Lucases grab game is exceptionally poor” He has 3 fucking kill throws

Seeing as Bonk, the best Meta Knight, is the speaker, he knows what he is talking about. MK is very underrepresented and so because of that, many people think he is a bad character. I can say definitely not. How many Meta Knights do you play against?

Every weakness you described for Steve is literally incorrect how did you even manage to pull that off. His disadvantage is one of the best in the game. There's almost infinite possibilitys for recovery routes and getting down thanks to blocks, and the only real limiter is his low jumps. He's also not that much of a combo food character because hes pretty small and light. Hes tied with Wolf, Lucario and Villager for weight, and yeah he stays upright the whole time but hes also pretty skinny. Lastly sbair and sfair are broken oos options and usmash is very fast too and kills at around 100 which is amazing. Steves only true weaknesses are his bad movement stats (which he has ways of mitigating) and the fact that he has to manage his resources, which can be hard but is doable. Manage those 2 weaknesses and you have a unique character who you can play however you want with near infinite possibilities. Soon people are going to realize this character is the real deal.

This just in Mii gunner and byleth are better than Captain falcon

Steve is a high tier aka A tier IMO

FINALLY SOME GOOD WORDS ABOUT META KNIGHT. MK B META

They put META KNIGHT ABOVE RYU, IKE, AND STEVE I'm done

Great to see you uploading videos again

8:33 Ah yes, lucas's grab game is poor even tho he has 1 combo throw and 3 kill throws

Dude steve is sooo weird. I feel like he’s top teir when he has material but low teir when he doesn’t. Mid teir makes the most sense tbh

Okay, I wanna stop you right there on the Lucas part. 1. PK Fire is not a neutral tool. His neutral tools are Zair, Fair and FTilt 2. Lucas aerials (at least the majority) are actually pretty safe on shield. Fair is (-3 on shield), Zair is (-2 on shield), UAir is (-3 on shield), PK Freeze (if fully charged, -5 on shield), PSI Magnet (+0 on shield) and FTilt is (-10 on shield) but this his best move because if spaced, he can't get punished. There is a small group of fighters who can punish Lucas FTilt spaced properly but that's not many. He's one of the safest characters in the game. 3. His grab being *poor* when he can combo by dragging you across the stage with DJCZ and even has 3 kill throws. Sure his only grab combo is DThrow > Fair but that's only like a 0% but being *poor* is kinda doing it. 4. His projectiles are actually rewarding. It takes one mistake + The Lucas pulling it right with his advantage state moves like Freeze and Fire can be genuinely rewarded on hit and so as his disjointed aerials. Most of Lucas' moves are pretty rewarding on hit. 5. Being "worse than Ness" is what many people think and that's understandable but there are many people who play Ness more than Lucas (and even less labber for Lucas than Ness) but being "worse" is kinda strech. Each of the 2 PSI users have different strengths and weaknesses with different playstyles.

Let's go my boi luigi is almost A tier

Wow, I'm actually pretty surprised you guys put Gunner above Brawler. Offline Miis will definitely be interesting to watch

mega man is high tier at least

The way this guy talks about Ike makes me think he hasn't played for two years.

Ok but luigi down special isn’t actually frame 1. It just has invulnerability on its first frame.

Mii Gunner better than Mii Brawler? Byleth better than Captain Falcon? Mega Man in B tier and not in A tier? Pit and Dark Pit being in C tier or maybe even lower? *Huh?*

I had a match against a Rosalina. I killed like 8 or 9 lumas in the process taking away my opponent's "walling out" options. I still lost the match, but it was a great way to exploit Rosalina's weaknesses taking away hey one strength! I was playing Little Mac, lol!

Zelda not at least B Tier? I feel like with the buffs she’s had + the Zeldas finding more tech constantly (you wouldn’t know that from Quckplay lol) she should be at least B tier. Ven specifically has been showing what Zelda can do on his stream lately and Mystearica’s Zelda used to destroy back when she played her.

I didn’t even know u started uploading again

You: Puts Ryu in B Tier. Me: I literally defeated bots in less than 20 seconds with Ryu.

8:58 That's so fucking sad Buff Lucas

sheik is A tier trades happen less than you'd think, if sheik didn't struggle with trades she would be top tier

Steve is A tier

Um I disagree. Steve, Byleth, And Mii Gunner are not B tier

Lucas has better shield safety than ness. Ok fire is not a neutral tool because +15 frames of startup with an audio cue and small hitbox. It's an advantage state tool. Lucas has a better disadvantage than ness and an easier time against many disjoints.

Wow, Wii Fit Trainer not even B tier anymore smh

I agree on the mii point SO much

How did MK went from being one of the 3 that ever got to SS tier, to B...

He clearly doesn’t watch Fatality’s stream otherwise Falcon would be here

ok ryu from streets was funny lol. did not see that coming

with steve

As a Fire Emblem: Three Houses fan, I can confirm that we don’t talk about male Byleth in this house. Got it?

Awesome

This tier list is really cool... But ... We're is falcon x) ?!??!?!

The fact that Wii Fit hasn't made the list yet is really disappointing

Intel on the inside knows just how good MK is. Based af

2:13 why didn’t he mention Kiyarash Lol he was in the video

Yes

Why isn't Toon Link here

i hope next will be in 3 days

Falco high tier edgeguarding, combos, good kill confirm

5:13 they really gonna do tilde dirty like that and not include him in the notable falco players huh

Where is captain falcon bruh

Megaman in B tier...?

12:24 what do you mean by heavily telegraphed jump arc?

16:30 Yes, I do, and you're just gonna have to accept it Btw Brawler is best Mii BRAWLER MAINS UNITE!

Salem 6 0 maister

I like how Proguides considers Byleth female 13:25.

Proguides in their S tier video: wolf has agruable the best recovery of the spacies Proguided in ths video: falco has what maybe the best recovery of the spacies Me: well whos recovery is better... wolf or falco?

I like how he call Lucas lame but doesn’t talk about his djcz combos plus his normal combos

Dude, Steve has great out of shield options, his advantage is incredible, and he can kill you off of one down throw

Not so good tier list , there’s no way mega man is b tier.

They should add master chief from halo to smash maybe what does anyone else think

Incoming falcon stans XD

Corrin should be here

B TIER THE TIER OF COMBO CHARACTERS MELEE WHO MELEE WHO

I think sheik is really good because her combos are very good and annoying

idk if im the only one but samus is not A tier

why is steve b tier

Wheres Steve

Come on, bonk didn't mention Little z for falco, he's obviously the best falco player

The Falco agenda

So, Smash Ultimate contains tons of gaming icons, and the characters from the best selling Nintendo game aren't, then. Makes sense. Not hating on the video, but I do strongly disagree with your point on why nobody plays the Miis. Maybe I'm biased though as the Wii series is basically my childhood, and the fact that I mained Mii Swordfighter until very recently, but I still couldn't disagree more.

Lucas is not just a worse Ness! While Lucas is more geared towards defensive play and that may come as an overall negative due to the offensive nature of ultimate, that doesn't mean his toolkit is any worse. In fact, they are 50/50 when you compare move by move. While Ness has a better Side-B than Lucas, Lucas has a better Neutral-B than Ness. Ness has a god-like back throw, and Lucas has a better up throw. Ness has a better Up Air and Neutral Air (combos), while Lucas has a better Back Air and Down Air (spikes). For killing, Ness has Forward Smash, while Lucas has Down Smash. They also have different match-up spreads since Ness dominates on stage, while Lucas is amazing at edgeguarding. Give my man Lucas some respect!

The old list was better. Why is cloud above Ryu and ike

I really wish Steve was that bad

I really disagree with Steve. He should be high tier. Have you seen the combo videos he has?

ZOOMER PAC-MAN LMAO

STOP CALLING YOURSELF PROGUIDES WHEN YOU DON’T LISTEN TO THE PROS!!!

I’m not surprised about mii gunner because that’s my main

Awesome ssbu facts: Kirby is viable

Mecos hahaha no mames

If Ryu gets buffed on his Nair & Up-Tilt he literally would be in a High A Tier.

Wow. This tier list is actually terrible.

And here comes the Falcon players who are getting mad

Male byleth > female byleth

Mii gunner is the best

Lucas is B Tier? Must have never seen Blucas 😅