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B&W PHOTO PAPERS | I compare 3 baryta photo papers from Hahnemuehle, Canson Infinity & Red River.

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Craig Bergonzoni Photography

Craig Bergonzoni Photography

Күн бұрын

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@68arclight
@68arclight Жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed your video. They all look like great papers and your description certainly gives a good indication of the similarities and differences. I have used both Hahnemuehle and Canson papers in the past and have found them to be top shelf. These days I print almost exclusively on Ilford papers Gold Fibre Gloss 310 GSM is excellent and the less glossy Gold Fibre Pearl has really surprised me. It's not as heavy as the other papers at 280 GSM but it is a superb paper. And one of the vest value papers around! Ilford's Smooth Cotton Rag 310 GSM is my go to paper for Matt. Anyway, keep up the excellent work. i really enjoy and learn from others experiences with papers and printers.
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
Hey Geoff, thank you so much for your feedback. I'm happy you enjoyed the video. I've tried one of the Ilford Gallerie papers but I need to try more. I'll have to give those 2 you mentioned a shot. Thank you for watching and for sharing your experience.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo Жыл бұрын
Inkjet finally catches up to silver darkroom paper. But it still doesn’t get you the experience of working with your hands back. Sitting at a computer sucks, that simple. And wait until you try a fuji gfx camera ! Unbelievable dynamic range
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
Very true. There's no replacing the tactile element of working in the darkroom. There are things I definitely miss about it but there are things I don't for sure. And good point about the GFX. I cannot wait to try them! Hopefully soon I'll get a hold of one of those cameras. Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo Жыл бұрын
@@CraigBergonzoni I still use a darkroom at home and have two enlargers for 35mm up to 4x5 but the clean up is a pain in the ass and the rinsing times doesn’t seem responsible imo. I use both and love options
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 8 ай бұрын
I don't miss the darkroom for a second. My eyes used to take hours to adjust back to normal light from the infared.
@nickfanzo
@nickfanzo 8 ай бұрын
@@Neil-Aspinall a safe light isn’t infrared, it’s just a red light. And again my point is that a physical thing (negative) is easier to utilize thirty years for now vs an obsolete computer file. This is already a problem for museums trying to keep up with file changes throughout time. That’s why most archives prefer negatives, vs digital work.
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 8 ай бұрын
@@nickfanzo Oh thank you my pedantic one! I refuse to believe that museums and alike can't update their digtal files from time to time to the latest format?
@lymancopps5957
@lymancopps5957 8 ай бұрын
Saw an interview with a Hahnemuehle rep. She explained they paid $5000 for a shipping container. Today they pay over $20,000 for a container.
@jfphotography69
@jfphotography69 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. Always looking to see what others have to say about certain print media. For myself, I pretty much print in color. I have been printing on Epson and Canon luster papers "both are one and the same" for years with great results. For my best prints I have been using for years Epson exhibition fiber paper, until recently when the prices almost doubled on the 17x22 size papers, good thing I stacked up a couple of boxes before the steep price increase. Recently I ordered some red river Palo Duro SoftGloss Rag 315 and UltraPro Luster 300. First on the UltraPro Luster 300, it compares to the Epson and Canon luster papers but is significantly thicker "have to use the manual feeder on my Canon pro 1000 printer" and the texture has that oil painting look, the texture is sublime. This paper most likely will be my go to paper for pretty much most of my prints for the foreseeable future. The Palo Duro SoftGloss Rag 315 is comparable to the Epson exhibition fiber paper, with pretty much the same thickness, the Palo Duro SoftGloss Rag 315 has a slightly more textured look than the Epson exhibition fiber paper. The Epson exhibition fiber paper has that as you said leather texture look to it, the RR SoftGloss Rag 315 has a nice texture to it as well, but it's different from the Epson exhibition fiber paper. If I would rate these four different peppers from one to four. Numbers one and two could be interchangeable. 1. Epson exhibition fiber paper 2. RR Palo Duro SoftGloss Rag 315 3. RR UltraPro Luster 300 4. Canon/Epson Luster papers. Number one and number two could go either way depending on the subject that is printed on either paper. The Epson exhibition fiber paper and RR Palo Duro SoftGloss Rag 315 are so close that either one could have been number one on my list.
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni 11 ай бұрын
Wow, this is great! Extremely valuable info and opinions. Thanks so much and for watching and sharing!
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 8 ай бұрын
Hahnemühle papers are the professional world standard and it shows you mean it when selling your prints. Why did you chose a Epson over a Canon and why not print on archival pigment ink?
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni 8 ай бұрын
Both Canon and Epson make amazing printers. (I previously had a Canon Pixma Pro-100) When I was researching which to buy it seemed the Epson edged out the Canon when it came to B&W prints so that was one big reason. Also, I like EPSON’s software they make for their printers and scanners. And in terms of printing on archival pigment inks, the EPSON P700 does in fact use archival pigment inks. So I am currently working with that.
@trotomas
@trotomas Жыл бұрын
I still think a wet fb paper print looks better than an inkjet b&w print, great video by the way
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
I get that for sure. And thank you for watching and commenting! Much appreciated!
@jean-claudemuller3199
@jean-claudemuller3199 9 ай бұрын
Nice review, I miss the comparative default rendering with Epson advanced B&W modus, how are the transitions, the richness in dark and light tones with the same files ? Weight and thickness does matter much for me once the prints framed, as well as surface glossyness when the prints receive 2 layers of Hahnemühle protective varnish. I find the rendering of this varnish really top.
@Hebhansen
@Hebhansen 10 ай бұрын
Great work and demo… thx
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and for the comment!
@lompas
@lompas 9 ай бұрын
Hello, I have two questions. I also have an Epson P700 and print mainly B/W. I get some very good prints on Hahnemuhle Fine Art Baryta, which is my favorite paper, but if I look at them from certain angles I see a blue reflection that I find intolerable on a grayscale print. And which also makes it impossible to use the print hung on a wall for an exhibition. Doesn't this happen to you too? The only way I have found to remove it is to spray the print with Hahnemuhle protective varnish but it is an extra expense and this increases the gloss of the print and dust and lint often remain under the varnish. The second question is related to the planeness that can be seen in your prints, they are absolutely flat, whereas my prints on Fine Art Baryta are all curved. What trick do you use to get them so flat? I would be very grateful if you answered my questions.
@Neil-Aspinall
@Neil-Aspinall 8 ай бұрын
Have you set the printer to B&W/Grayscale when printing instead of Color?
@lompas
@lompas 8 ай бұрын
@@Neil-Aspinall Yes, ABW. It is not a problem of color cast it is a sort of interference problem due to the black or grey inks infact the problem is increased by using the BEO (black enhance overcoat). The more black and grey inks the printer uses the more the issue is visible.
@hansformat
@hansformat 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - good video. Which paper has the least gloss differential?
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I'm not sure. I haven't analyzed this aspect. I will work on it and let you know. Thanks for watching!
@garyrowe58
@garyrowe58 Жыл бұрын
Why no Matt finish - such as Arches 88? Or if you want it close to the darkroom, the Epson Traditional photo paper?
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
I’ll be trying all of these as well. I’ll make videos as soon as I do.
@garyrowe58
@garyrowe58 Жыл бұрын
@Craig Bergonzoni great - I'm waiting on a pack of sample sheets, but sounds excellent- bright white smooth fine art Matt!
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
@@garyrowe58 awesome! Let me know how it goes
@charliemiller5831
@charliemiller5831 Жыл бұрын
you saved the best for last! great point made about the camera, film, digital method used to get the picture... the finished print is all that matters. I'm starting to print using the little brother to your Epson, (XP15000) fun stuff, I'm leaning to use the Red River paper because they give ICC profiles. And not crazy pricey. All the best sir! Toronto Canada
@CraigBergonzoni
@CraigBergonzoni Жыл бұрын
Hey Charlie!! I've been loving the Red River as well. I think I need to invest in more paper from them. Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I truly appreciate it.
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