"Violently neutral." Love it! All 3 of my 9Fs are Hornby tender drive examples, 2 being silver seal versions. They all still run superbly and navigate the tightest of curves, and will pull pretty much anything and everything I throw at them (after a change of traction tyres). They are poetry in motion. Always good to see a range of reviews. As long as people "speak as they find", and give a balanced opinion, then they are most welcome.

My Hornby railroad 9F at £109 runs really well, so I think for practical purposes at 3 ft distance, it is the best 9F.

Videos like this are really important because, just like you said at the Dublo Flying Scotsman video, you don't always need the newest model. There are many older models that are actually fine and, in some cases, even better than the latest offerings. So it's always good to know about them

“Look up what melanin is and get back to me” Too real

Oh nice! a new Flying Scott video! Also on that Hornby 9F, I actually have the super detailed Evening Star from Hornby. And yes, while it does slow down around corners at times, 2 years into my ownership of the loco and it still runs rather nicely. Although, that Bachmann 9F does look very good, especially with the weathering.

Hi mate I hope you are well I have a hornby super detailed one and had no issues so far it actually is smooth no motor issues had it over a year. Respect your opinion Thank you for sharing your models with us Keep safe ARP

I was lucky enough to get the Hornby 92097 with Westinghouse pumps at my local model shop's summer sale. It's the best locomotive in my collection. I was looking to find a Bachmann one, and will probably acquire one a few locos down the line.

I hope you will extend the track and set up for a long preserve main line, Flying Scott.

Fuc|< what any certain KZfaqr thinks. Make up your own mind. Nothing wrong with this model at all. In fact, it's a brilliant model, in my opinion.

Did you know that KR models have WD 2-10-0 for sale

My guess is that Sam got a dud, as everyone else has had a perfectly good one. The point issue may just be a lack of back EMF control in the DCC decoder. I'm sure if it mattered that much about the torque, a cheap replacement motor, or rewinding the current motor would fix the issue. As for the drawbar, the only issue I see is that the wire connection point is terrible. The plug should be inline with the drawbar so that there is no 90 degree bend (which is where they always fail) and so that the wires aren't very visible. A normal goal post type drawbar, while not as good as a kinematic one, is good enough and less fiddly than dealing with many of the more contemporary integrated designs.

The motor with the 9F and B12 is also the same as the J15, I believe, as well as the new Standard 2. I think the trend I have noticed is the older motors tend to be good but the newer ones are suspect. But then again I have a motor in each category that is the opposite of the trend. Albeit, the bad old motor was second hand. It is a shame, because when they work they are great motors.

Is the railroad 9f any good for budget modellers? I heard bad things about the railroad black five with the heavy weight on the tender, and I'd like to know if the 9f is fine

Fantastic job man and I think it's a good model 6:01

Based 9fs

I also have a striped fingernail lol

Which youtuber is he talking about?

Indiana jones locomotive

I hope you’ve had that thumbnail stripe checked out by your doctor. Possible subungual melanoma… hope I’m wrong, of course.