Got a basement-sitting Rappy 50, a Nano s3 that i abuse hard indoors, a belted raw 420 and a cheap 450 Clone-rex Kit in the basement… what Route should i Go and generally is my line up good? Beginner with some heli-x sim under the belt and my real sim is the Nano… poor masochistic dwarf it is What Route should i Go with my line up?😊

Would be a Honor to get help mates

@@ThrunRC thank you! I’m glad you liked the video and thank you for subscribing! Greatly appreciate that!

That is a old-school terminology and thought. That used to be the case but now with the modern FBL units and the helicopters we have a S2 for example flies just like a 600. Helicopter is really the best, but of course the bigger they are the easier they are to see and more presentable in the air, but cost is a lot more in a crash.

@westhobbiesrc8051 thank you for the extra insight, it's interesting to see how different heli pilots think

@@ryanrekz7744 everyone has their opinion, I can just give you mine and what I’ve learned over the last 20 years. The new helicopters are awesome and they really change the game for flight performance at any size level.

Simulator is a great tool to learn how to fly but this video was about your first helicopter. I personally didn’t use a simulator well there was no simulator when I learned lol SAB is definitely your first kit build if you try to build anything else you get discouraged. They have the best manual in the game.

Do you have a recommendation for a radio to pair with the simulator then move onto the goosky s2?

@@YoungDMZ Tx16s. You can use it even on a 700

@@YoungDMZ spektrum NX8 will be your best bet, ease of programming and can add a satellite to the S2 and fly any heli after that.

I still have a raptor 50! Incredible Heli in its day. Simulators are a great tool and they help a lot of people. I’m personally not a huge simulator person just because I find it harder in the simulator than in real life but for a lot of guys, it will help you tremendously.

Oh yeah it goes from left to right, Dumb!, Dumb!, Dumb!, Dumb!, Dumb!, SAB-Awesome...j/k 🤣

It’s crazy how great that thing flys. I was very surprised!

Yes they are! Brands and new helis are always coming to the market. You should definitely get a heli and get flying. There is so many great ones to choose from!

Simulators are a great tool to learn how to fly, but yes, this video is about your actual first helicopter not learning how to fly a helicopter. Crashing can be very discouraging and it drives a lot of people away. I was one of those, I learned the hard way no simulator a Flybar helicopter with no tail Gyro. I stepped away for a while because it was just too much. Then got an Align Trex 450 fly bar and I was hooked. I wish I had the options of helicopters nowadays back then!

I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

Yes, it is! Awesome little machine and can take a beating. Flying helicopters and learning them is definitely the hardest part of this hobby. But the most rewarding in my opinion.

Thank you Toby! I’m glad you’re enjoying the S2 and 420! Now we need to swap your 580 over!

Yes it is! Awesome little Heli! Yeah, you get around 3-4 minute flights. Witch is normal.

Thank you for watching! I’m glad the videos are helpful.

I bet it was! Blade helis where great from guys who wanted a BNF heli but now with the options today for BNF it blows them out of the water.

​​@@westhobbiesrc8051 Blade doesn't have a ton of helis any more. They used to have tons, now their site shows about a dozen options, most basically repeats bnf or rtf, so just a handful of helis available. I loved my blades especially for the local support that slowly died away. Now I'm going to move on to omp/goosky and everything else once I've crashed the rest of my remaining blade parts. My 150s and 180 fusion though are still solid birds. Might hang on to a nano cp or two as well

I learned with no simulator in an Old Cricket Nitro Heli that we had to make parts for because they were obsolete lol GPS gets a lot of hatred because people don’t understand how it actually works. And yes, GPS can teach you bad habits because it is so easy to fly but like I said in the video. If all you want to do is sport fly or just fly around? I see no harm in them.

I remember the Walkera helis! You can’t go wrong with them back in the day. I had a few Trex 450s. My first real 3D heli. That’s awesome! Which Xcell Fury? I’ve got a 60.

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I think it might be a 90. I’ll have to double check though when I pick it up cause my dad modified most of his helis

Definitely! But this video is about buying your first helicopter not learning how to fly. Simulators are great to teach you how to fly.

@@westhobbiesrc8051 I find a helicopter like an S1 is so much funnier than a sim. If you can just learn how to basic fly in a sim, get an S1 all the way. I find i learn much quicker and have a lot more attention span in real life than a sim too.

This video is about buying your first helicopter not learning to fly. Yes, simulators are a great tool and help a lot of people.

@@westhobbiesrc8051 yes , and I agree with everything you said in the video. Safety and cost . I got the RS4 now and I am so glad I didn’t buy this first. In the beginning you are going to crash. You will break a few things more than once . Even fly it a bit to close. It happens. I couldn’t imagine what kind of damage or what I may have hit if I started out in a 400 let alone 700. The 200 size is also a good size for someone who likes 3D but doesn’t want to buy a club membership to have to fly and see if they want to progress into a club membership etc. Just thought I’d offer my advice on another way to save money in the beginning. Practicing something new on the sim , completing it a few times. Then going out to try it on your heli and do them efficiently is so rewarding .

That’s awesome! Those where great flyers.

I remember when those first came out lol I see so many people buying older models that are absolutely obsolete and you cannot get parts for them. No matter what kind of flyer you are sooner or later you will need parts lol stuff wears out stuff brakes you have crashes, and nothing sucks more than having a helicopter. You cannot do anything with.

Yes true! And that is one if the reason why I love my Trex helis 450se v2 and my 500 ESP.

Yup. I learned on a Schluter Heliboy as well. No gyro, wood blades, and mechanical tail rotor compensation for torque. New helis are sooooo much better for learning.

@@user-py7lr5no2h after about $600 and let sit for about a year . I got a Futaba 5 Ch helicopter radio and gyro . Upgrade the rotor head . And I have to say it few really nice . Few it for about a year . Then my wife got a X-Cell 60 . For a wedding gift back I. 92 .That I still have .

My first helicopter was a GMP cricket. No tail Gyro fixed pitch and I learned how to fly on that thing lol my grandfather would make all the parts for me because you couldn’t buy anything for it at the time. I wish we had the helicopters today back then.

goosky s2. you will love it

Definitely the Goosky S2!

yes. you can use a kensun sat for it

The stock radio is locked, and they have a very dumb down. The S1 is so much more capable with a good transmitter. Follow my radio, set up video and get yourself a Kensun DSMX satellite.

On an M1 or M2 there won't be much to show. These little machines don't require any physical adjustment. Leveling the swashplate and Pitch setting is done using the radio. 😄

I have multiple videos on setting up helicopters and going over radio settings. But mechanical set up on the S1 and S2 is very simple because everything is fixed linkages. So as long as your service or 90° your swash plate is level. But I could definitely make a video on it because I have seen quite a few people ask.

Leveling the swash plate and setting your pitch is not done in the radio. It is done in the FBL Unit.

@westhobbiesrc8051 😄I said it was done with the radio. Not done IN the radio 😄 I know that the settings data are in the fbl module, but with OMP M1/2 you make the adjustment with the radio stick (GooskyS1/2 with app) .. I just mean than due to fixed linkages and brushless tail motor, there's absolutely no mecanical adjustment on these heli, so not much to show ^^ (Sorry for my English, I'm French baguette 🥖)

@@westhobbiesrc8051 great looking forwards to seeing the new episode.

What is the best SIM? In your opinion

​@@Dibilibix27AccuRc

@@Dibilibix27 I've used Real Flight, Hel-X and AccuRC. I enjoy Heli-X the most. Heli-X also has pirouette training mode which I found enormously useful in the beginning.

S1 is a sim

@@Dibilibix27 I like AccuRC, I've seen a lot of trash talk about it but it has done the job for me so I wouldn't let anyone tell ya no to it.

yeah the m4 was a killer in the black friday deals. just be careful from the stock electronics

The S2 is phenomenal! They got that helicopter perfect from the start. It flies unlike anything else. Sims are great but they are not for everyone! I’m personally not a sim flyer and find it harder to do in the sim than real life! Good luck on your M4!

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Yeah I find the SIM a bit... I dunno light? Like it doesn't feel right, and thanks, I'm already looking at other helis too haha, maybe a TB60 is on cards for my birthday

@@Twx97 what's wrong with stock electrics?

@@Zillawill each failed on me mid flight 2 times. Servos get burning hot. Take in mind mine is first batch so may not run into these issues. But if u want to use the stock i will highly recommend using a capacitor (plugs to any free port on the fbl), and what it basically does is help stabilize and smooth out the voltage fluctuations, ensuring a constant power supply to the electronics

Unfortunately I do not know of where or if you can buy just a airframe. You would be better and cheaper off to buy a BNF S2 and add your own FBL. As it would cost a lot more to try and build one. look for one used or Crashed.

I can! I’ve got a few!

Yes, the S1 is good to learn on but it’s half the size of the S2 so it’s harder to see.

@westhobbiesrc8051 The s1 rtf is on backorder now, so maybe s2 is better anyway .

That would be great if I had affiliate links lol 9/10 everything you see on this channel is paid for out of pocket.

I believe he purchases most of the helis we see on here, himself. Some are sent to him to build and then he does test flights and reviews with them before sending to owner. A couple might be sponsored, but I can't remember for sure.

Never had one or any experience with one, but heard they are good!

No, after what happened and how I was treated over a post about issues I had with a M4 I will never support them again.

@@westhobbiesrc8051 Jeff was this on Helifreak or somewhere else?

​@westhobbiesrc8051 just wanted to know, what happened? ignoring the m4 part