Sean I wish the folks in my area would get what you're saying they won't put a seed in the earth to save their lives but are quick to know if I'm planting a garden they're so lazy

Just a few thoughts that helped me and others. Adding depleted soil to your raised beds may help with volume but it's nutrients etc. that are needed. When I was working with Growing Power in Wisc. before they closed they always added old soil to compost piles to add nutrients and microbiology to it then you have your source for repotting next year. This will give you better yields.

They are really beautiful plants to be around for sure.

Check with Har

I've had luck finding wild comfrey along small streams. I would recommend getting some Bocking 14 though, much less invasive.

It's almost a pep talk for me to not get overwhelmed, too!!

@@edibleacres Hi, have you heard of the method of Sepp Holzer to transplant fairly large trees ? And out of season, too ! In his climate zone (and likely in your neck of the woods as well) the traditional time for planting a tree is is either spring or fall, and conventional wisdom has it that you can't transplant them when they have gotten too big. As a boy Sepp (Joseph) was already a plant, tree and garden enthusiast. he once brought home a fairly large sappling that was overturned during logging work (he had found it at the street when he walked to school, and picked it up when going home, so that tree was lying around with at least partially exposed roots for at least 2 days, could have been in a shady place of course). His mother told him, not to expect it would grow, it had already lost the leaves. It was in (early) summer, and the thing looked just sad - never mind the wrong planting season and that it was too large to be transplanted. He had "leased" a piece of land from his father. Mountain farm, rocky underground not much soil in many places, extensive cattle farming (dairy) as main income source, and a hard life (he was born in the 1940s). His personal spot for doing gardening was a steeper hill (well the Krameterhof is nothing bit slope) his father was not interested in making hay off that place (which says something, if you consider how frugal these mountain farmers were and had to be). Which was the reason he let the boy have it for a nominal lease. But it was not close to the house, so no water. Some dew during night for sure, probably some rain (even in summer, this is in the Alpes), not not much water holding capacity in that soil, or it would have been used for hay making. Young Joseph was unfazed, and planted the tree and he did not water it, because he had no water. Low and behold, the tree had dropped, or did drop all leaves, went into survival mode and invested into roots, big time. So the boy was overjoyed to see that the tree got new leaves after a time (I seem to remember 2 - 4 weeks, it did not take very long), it had estbalished itself - shock treatment and all. Sepp Holzer remembered the happy accident later and tweaked the process. He also used it to plant larger trees in one of the oil rich monarchies in the Middle East (he had a consulting job, I forgot which country it was). He thinks that it was crucial that he did not have water. If he had given the tree water, it might have tried to grow leaves and this was not the time for it. It likely still had enough reserves to establish roots. Trees can survive w/o leaves (for a while), but not w/o roots. So his method is to dig out the tree WAIT until the tree drops all leaves ! Give it a lage hole with moist soil, but to not water it. Now if it is very hot and dry one might have to tweak the process, some mulching would be wise. But the tree should not have any leaves (so no investment there), and it should not get any liquid water so it was activate the roots big time. Which will save it. That shock transplantation may have cost the tree a year but on the other hand it was already larger than the usual sapplings.

@@edibleacres Since you have so many young trees you could test with one or a few that are diposable and see what happens, I guess it would be less scary to see it lose all leaves and not water, if you (the new owners) are not super disappointed if it does not work out. The hole is already dug, and if they do not get leaves within a few weeks you know the experimetn failed. IF it works out, I can see a new niche for you and a special offer for you potential cliens. People that have a lot of deer pressure - larger trees are easier to protect (and as long as the tree does not even have leaves they will not be interested). Or people that want a more advanced tree on an existing property. you could do a 3 for the price of 2 package for trusted clients and if they stick to your instructions (!) and none of the trees establishes itself they can come back for new ones (for free or at a heavy discount) later. Would also be an interesting video, with a catchy title I can see that getting a lot of views.(mentioned Holzer could help, and impossible tree planting, ...) I read that ancectode in one of his books, and he stressed. 1) No planting with leaves - keeping the tree unplanted until if drops the leaves. The tree he found as boy may even have been exposed to the sun, not sure about that. 2) No water. - Under the special circumstances, smaller trees are planted during the season and with (some) water. I remember that the tree was larger than usual and that he used that method for larger trees, and the planting was done out of season (but it was not cold). I seem to remember that episode was in the first book that he published (in German), not sure if that was even published in English. It describes his childhood, how he came to distrust modern farming methods - he got burned a few times following the latest silver bullet, and reurned to experimenting and observing as he had done as boy. Farming used to be very static, and farmers unwilling to use new practices, but after WW2 that changed (not only in Austria). Modern farming just took off in the 1960s (he took over the farm in 1962)and the professional representation of farmers and the government supported "modern agriculture" ....artificial nitrogen fertilizer into fish ponds, spruce monocultures and all. His first (German) book also descrubes the struggle with local autorities, because he violated the letter of the laws that protect the forests which protect the land (from too much rainfall, and also avalanches). So "agriculture" was and still is outlawed in land dedicated to forests, the trees cannot be all cut down at once in many regions. And all of that is even more sensitive in the mountains. So I get that the local authorities got nervous when he started teraccing and making ponds (also not allowed) etc. His style of farming did not compromise the protective forests (not on his farm at least, he messed up a consulting job much later that ended with a mudslide on public street) - he fought a lot of battles with local civil administrators about his earthworks and having productive elements (fruit trees, terraces, ponds, eath stables for pigs) in the mountain forest All of that is not relevant for the non-German speaking book market (They have similar protective laws in Switzerland and Germany) so I do not know where you could find the information about the tree planting method in the English books. But he has one with practical advice (Sepp Holzer's permaculture) which I do not know and there is a chance he has his tree trick in it. meaning a library nearby could get you informed.

I wouldn't mind a thunderstorm clobbering :). We're trending towards super dry again :(

Thanks kindly, I'd say almost to a fault!

Thanks

Thanks for the details :)

For sure. We have some tools we invested in that let us dig, hopefully we'll have time with a mild enough winter to move most of them and will share notes.

We do most of our 'reset' once the plants go to sleep in the fall. Sell, trade, expand elsewhere, donate, they find new healthy homes where they can expand like mad and have fun in a novel space. Feels OK, just need to keep up with that happening in many places!

My garden says "No hoomans!", too right now. Here it's nettles and bindweed. That is about the worst plant combo ever invented. I need a goat or two...

You are so welcome!

Hey Antio, nice to hear from ya :)

Important to give ourselves and our gardens some appreciation, latitude, and love!

Yay!

Fingers crossed. Make sure you have a good healthy male in the mix, they are easy to have die off!

After all the promotion of Seaberries on various permaculture channels, I planted 10 young plants in the sunniest part of my garden just a few months ago. I first tried eating these as wild berries growing on the Norfolk coast (UK). Really powerful taste. Like super-concentrated oranges. Eaten raw, they made the whole family wince, and then decide they were actually rather nice.

EdibleAcres yeah the one male I had needed a lot of TLC. It’s alive and thriving so far!

Great suggestion, thank you!

I will keep this in mind, definite plans for that soon !

You could just post raw video of the chickens and we would watch. 🥰

Personally I find Black Locust to be one of our favorite trees! SO many uses but yeah, definitely challenging!

Really fun idea!

ps. love the red swiss chard - we call them mangold, or in local accent "chrutschtilä"

We had crazy failure on cucumbers this year!

@@edibleacres ive heard that around But every year is a bad year i gave up lol But i love zuchinni and i use that like cucumber too so its all good

Search "Robert Purvis" online and look for his orchard. Lovely person!

A few folks mentioned that. I'll share that request with Sasha for sure.

Happened pretty darn fast for sure.

That is a lucky thing indeed!

So sad to see them go, such a unique collection and always a pleasure to order from them!

I am really hoping someone continues on with their work, is that the plan!?!

The last I heard on the issue was that there "may be a future incarnation of Oikos" but with no further details. Their nursery is closed and the guy who ran the place is retired now.

Really nice layering idea. Wine cap under raspberries makes a lot of sense since raspberries make deep shade and both love wood chips. Good thinking!

I'm not sure ifthere is a specific follow up... Hmmm. Maybe it's time to do an update tour of our backyard!

Most shiso we have come back as little seedlings, we need to save seed more so we have a bit more say!

Thanks for sharing in a thorough and thoughtful way.

The problem is our backyard is the 'zone 1' of our landscape, the most intimate and accessible, so having it release into later succession would mean we'd need that intimate space to exist now further away. Design problems that we set in motion ourselves :)

@@edibleacres Ok, I understand. So you should slowly move the almost mature "food forest" out of zone 1. But you don't have a zone 2 right next to zone 1. Well, at least you've shown us all this wealth that is possible in such a limited space. Just saw your Akiva video: that's a different kind of 'space'! (I'm really envious of Akiva's place.)

That could be interesting, but I'm not sure I'd buy one for it :)

For sure. Tons of pathways we can explore.

Make hugelmounds out of them and let them break down slowly! And/or make biochar out of the smaller sticks!

I think folks do both,but we tend to get better results in later winter, early spring.

Both super compacted and very wet.

Yep! Really like growing them from seed, they grow quickly and start bearing at 3-4 years of age!

I'd have to rewatch it to remember!

It’s just beyond the hoophouse with the watering trough outside it in your backyard.

It is always a back and forth. For sure in the high tunnels we can't have trees! Just hard because they stay growing SO long into the fall it's then hard to have the time to dig them up with shipping season. We'll get to it though. Outside, it's just a balance of wanting space back for 'new' things to happen but seriously running out of time to do it all! Could have worse problems I guess.

To me they taste like a tart/sour and intense but lovely tangerine/grapefruit with a satisfying oilyness in a subtle way. We press juice from them that we dilute in water and it is amazing.

@@edibleacres I'm so interested in learning how to extract the oil..went down a rabbit hole on Google last night.. now I'm wanting to make both ginger and seaberry oils for diffusers and wax melts..two of my fav scents..ginger and citrus. Have you or Sasha tried extracting the oils from either seaberry or the ginger flowers? (The ginger you showcased this week, I'm anxiously waiting to see in a video from you once they bloom)

We might have found a home for some/many in some folks who have recently had some seriously scary and nasty neighbors cause issues. We'll plant a nice 6' and taller living wall!

The plant in the photo I believe is Black Locust. Both Nitrogen fixing plants so that may be where the confusion is coming from...

Yeah, thats too expensive. We're working on it but it's taking time and it's hard to do all the things in a year! perfectcircle.farm is worth checking out...

@@edibleacres thanks. I shot them an email. Their site says they’re out of stock but hopefully they will contact me back when they have more available.

They definitely come but haven't been too rough.

We are allying fully and deeply with nature, it's the dominant model in that context.

Edible Forest Gardens by Jacke (if you search online you can buy directly from him) and The Permaculture Designers Manual by Mollison. The two best I know of.

@@edibleacres Great! Thanks! Already reading Mollison. Im a little stuck in the part about paterns... I'll check out Jacke next. Have a lovely weekend.

They are cool, I'd hope they get to eat some plants, too :)

@@edibleacres lol ya if you grow lots you don't have to worry ;) They are cool little insects :) My picture is actually a catterpillar like them but just that fake eye at the top

Slap em! For the most part they aren't bad, I think frogs do a good job on most larvae and that keeps things in check.

Feel free to send along our contact info to them and we can work something out I bet.

@@edibleacres Awesome, just sent an initial email to you and my friend, Sabre!

I have used an electric trimmer at our other spot to get around some areas. It is rough and coarse. A scythe is nice in larger areas, but in this context a good pair of pruners can do 95% of the work.

I do prefer to use secateurs, loppers, pruning saw and a bow-saw rather than electric hedge trimmers - even for the 1000ft of mixed hedging I have here. It's a lot of work, but with secateurs I can ensure those plants which need gentler or more rigorous handling get the appropriate treatment they need, otherwise an even degree of pruning favours the strongest plants every time. It really is easy to lose sight of something that bit more delicate which grows slower but needs sun/wind protection from another more boisterous plant.

Search robert purvis orchard

@@edibleacres Thanks alot

Incredibly prudent to focus on having direct connection to as much of your food/medicine as you can, and connecting with others to support your community. We are at the start of some very deep shifts and I can imagine things being very very different this time next year.

I love the smell!! Its my favorite smell in the garden. How could you not?

To each their own. Maybe there is something like cilantro to it, some folks love it, some think it tastes like soap. Maybe try other types in case you have a variety you aren't loving, or maybe you don't love Tulsi and so be it :)

I really wanted to like it. I like anise and it’s so similar. The only things I enjoyed it with was coconut or pho. Beautiful plant though and I will definitely grow it again.

THanks, but I think we have enough growing now!

We'll be trying to figure out what to do with a bunch of plants this later fall, we'l be doing sales on September 1st but if there are food justice or plantings for the people type work we're always open to hearing about wish lists and sharing!

Ha, yep, that is quite true

Thats one path towards opening up space!