This is par for the course for this type of reviewers.

he can usually make good videos but this entire video was a huge miss. It isnt often two of the worst takes (that arent on the level of "Super is when dragon ball got good" or "Great saiyaman RUINED gohan's arc (because its not like gohan already completed his arc or anything) are in the same video (thise takes being ssj4 design is bad and that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games, when mechanically it plays and controls so much more smoothly than budokai tenkaichi 3, a game he praised seconds earlier)

@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO There's nothing wrong with thinking SS4 design sucks because there's nothing objective about its quality. You can dislike it and that's completely valid. I think it sucks because it doesn't even look like a Super Saiyan transformation, it looks completely unrelated and yet it's the fourth stage of Super Saiyan.

@@okagron That's because it is unrelated, and just had the SSJ4 name tacked on. The SSJ4 is more like a different transformation path based on the Oozaru form rather than the golden haired super saiyan.

@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO > that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games To be fair, if you're comparing it to BT3 (the last PS2 game the same dev team made), it is really bad. The animations (and thus action) are significantly slower, the roaster got cut in half, the combat got streamlined in the sense that it got remapped and several moves were removed, and the customs mode utterly broke any sense of balance.

@@OldMemesDieHard He's a troll, ignore him

I liked the SSJ4 design, but with that being said, when Battle of Gods was in the works, the initial design for the SSJG form looked SOMEWHAT like a Golden version of the SSJ4 form from DB GT....And also the only Saiyan to ever obtain BOTH forms naturally was Goku, in the case of Vegeta, he obtained SSJ4 via a Blutz Wave machine and trained with Whis to obtain the SSJGSSJ form or SSJBlue

@@JadenYukifan28 SSjG looked like Golden SSj4?? HOW!??? When I first saw SSjG I nitpicked the shit out of if because Goku "downgraded" and became skinny, and the plus side was it changed his hair to red, which reminded me too much of Kaioken. Now, I still feel the same, but it is far more refreshing than Blue, but I'm still upset there aren't multipliers or even consistent fights (Vegeta apparently could go SSjG the whole time, but actually decides to use SSj1/2 throughout Super against Anaraza, Cabba, etc even though it is supposedly more energy consuming according to the headcanon.) Vegito SSj3 was supposedly no match for SSjG back when BoG was new, but then Kale/Krillin/17 tanks/match Blue Kamehameha. WTF. Oh, it's not "Full power"? No, it's lazy. Oh, and then there's Kaioken Blue, Blue 2, Rose, Rage, Berserk, Berserk but calm, Berserk but calm+, Omen UI, and "mastered" UI...like how many forms are there!? Oh, and then there's the manga, where Roshi has UI, Mastered SSB is a thing, and Black SSj1 is a thing as well. It's just a mess and we have to live with it. But all of that is irrelevant. How do you confuse Base+Red+Skinny for SSj3/4-like long hair+Golden Fur+Buff?

@@Goblin_Hands No no, before the actual SSJG form was chosen, they wanted it to look more like what the SSJ4 form looks like, but with Gold hair and fur...then when they chose the way it looks now, someone mentioned that it should look more slim lined rather than muscular..hence why Goku's SSJG form looked as if he was in his Base form..sans the red coloring

@@JadenYukifan28 ​ Hmm...pretty sure the Golden form existed in theory even before SSj4: "Gold was considered to be the head hair color of the Super Saiyan 4 form (like the core Super Saiyan forms); however, it was decided that black head hair went better with the red body hair." dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_4#cite_note-TGW-6 Plus, you'd have to imagine people thought of using gold before silver for SSj5 in AF, but you might be right in that they considered it for SSjG after all that. I guess I just misread your 1st comment.

Kochlor 08 what about xenoverse

That’s what I’m sayin, Budokai 3 was the best DBZ game, while all of the Tenkaichi games were massively overrated. The only thing that was good about the Tenkaichi games, was the amount of content in Tenkaichi 3

Nah, he's right.

Hell, Hyper Dimension has things to say. Even if you skip Budokai 3 you've still got Super Dragon Ball Z.

Frost Gaming Ironic, I find B3 to be massively overrated while I find BT2 and BT3 (Plus Raging blast) far superior.

raging blast 2 was amazing though

I loved raging blast!

Budokai tenkaichi 3 isn't bad

@@dontcallmerudy9044 He never actually said it was bad...

@@phantasmuh Are you deaf?

gotta get views somehow

This is so sad,alexa play ultimate battle

He got me with that shit. He puts the imo best dragonball game ever created in the thumbnail so people click on it because everyone knows fighterZ is a good game.

*Triggered. But well done.

it was clearly clickbait

Here, take this heart medecine. It's bacon flavor.

@@BloodyMaryV it taste like grape

Achilles Productions ツ Same

Ss4 > ssb

@@mikeoxlong9583 AMEN

Yeah no super sayian 4 was shit. Super sayian blue was shit. And honestly super sayian 3 is raditz with blonde hair dye and no eye brows. Out of the big 4 shonen anime (dbz, naruto, one piece, bleach) dbz is the most uncreative shit ever. Not saying I don’t like dbz, I fucking love dbz, but when the first super sayian transformation (which becomes common as hell) and ultra instinct (gets fucking spammed in super) it just shows that dbz is a shittier anime than the other 3. And I like dbz more than bleach

Nah it’s awful

@@ZacharyHampton Ok, instead of shitting on designs, criticize it. What would you change from the designs?

@@ZacharyHampton yep 100% true. One piece and naruto are better in this regard. Bleach and dbz, particularly buu saga and dbs, suck. It's basically color swapping character's hairs at this point. It was a fun premise at first but now it's shit because of the power levels, ridiculous names ie ultra instinct and all the bs. Ss4 was bs too like tf oozaru to ss4?

I can see why people didnt like it, I personally like it. But, at least it was original. Not like what theyre doing now with their pallet swaps.

Your 100% right

Happy to hear someone else who played Raging Blast 2

Raging Blast Two was my first PS3 game :)

But I told some people who were looking to get RB2 at gamestop that B2 lacked a story mode and its a giant arcade.

@KingOfLegends23 Raging Blast 1 felt like it was more focused on the story. But i honestly think it's good.

Are we getting MGS Remake soon?

And then everyone clapped and cheered

This is amazing ahaha

It looks better

True fam

There is like one recoler dude ssj1 thru 3 were the same colors with different designs god was a slimmer form and my personal favorite blue is the only recoler

It's not, though.

When dit he say dat I missed it...

Rofl ^this dude is literally just copy pasting his shitty -opinion- flame on any comments that don't shun SS4. Also what the fuck is up with that jank ass capitilzation and _terrible_ attempt to look intelligent by sprinkling "big" words throughout in a very forced and clearly ill-educated fashion? Either this is omega troll or you need to hit them damn english books homie.

While I admit SSJ4 is a good form, the series it was in ruined it. Also there is no SSJ4 sprite that is good in this video.

​@@hashi258 I'm somewhere in the middle but more or less agree. As a kid who loved DBZ and was just ecstatic there was a continuation (I didn't really understand canon/noncanon back then but I'd have still enjoyed it for that reason alone regardless) my memory is pretty absent of bad memories for it. Between seeing some clips sprinkled and just being objective about flaws where they are regardless of my enjoyment for something now that I'm grown, I probably would be bothered by alot if I rewatched I admit. That said, the moment SSJ4 and not to mention SSJ4 Gogeta/100x Big Bang Kamehameha hit the screen were legendary moments for me and my friends. When Gogeta deflects the final enemies most powerful attack with a single finger, eyes closed, and didn't move an inch- my friends and I were absolutely losing our minds lol. I choose to keep them in tact instead of ruin them with my adult brain that's realistic and wants continuity because there's slim to zero chance I'll be able to find many shows I love enough to have those level of emotions for without appeasing said brain, at this point in my life. I do think it's a victim of the hate train, but it's definitely not exempt from criticism or absent of things to criticize by far. It had some good idea's and that's what I think is most significant to take away. Pan will always be annoying as all hell though. That has never been not-true lmao.

@@hashi258 Also, soothe your eyes with this one. Someone made it with yarn crocheted on a plastic grid (I think it's yarn) and it's sexier than any digital one I've seen has ever been. It's bootyful i-h1.pinimg.com/474x/45/c3/66/45c36673c360042505a3a618655c98ac.jpg

*Woah there, watch your L A N G U A G E*

Polverine74 That isn’t really saying much tbh.

Crono Sapien yeah you’re probably right 😔

To me GT is a alright okay anime

GT is an anime that had a lot of great ideas, but they weren't fully executed.

Super really isn't all that much better than GT.

Steven Drake More details does not equate to a good design. I like God WAY more than SSJ4...but eh. I don’t HATE it. I just find it inferior. Better than Blue though.

@@xavierparis2789 ss4 is better design than those other power up cheif and unlike the others ss4 is actually a *TRANSFORMATION*

I'm kinda with Xavier on that point. Or rather I hate ss4 in GT because all of GTs designs (especially Vegeta Pan and Trunks )are bad to mediocre at best. SS4 Xeno Goku though? That's the best

Benny Bluestacks Gave trunks a bad design? Did you see what they did to him in Super? GT trunks looks leagues above super, especially that tacky green shit bulma put on him.

RajOfColumbus Yeah? Uh...okay. So is Super Saiyan God. His hair burns red, his eyes become a bit wider and have pupils instead of none like Goku usually has, and most importantly he VISABLY becomes slimmer. That’s a very clear transformation, but doesn’t force Goku into a fur suit with eyeliner. Again, I don’t hate SSJ4, but I find it inferior to almost every other form not named “Super Saiyan Blue”.

Za Fishy it isn’t misspelled

That's how it would be spelled if Disney wasn't always towering over everyone, breathing mach 5 winds down their necks and staring into their souls without eye contact. They sued a daycare, don't think for a second they wouldn't go after Shonen Jump or Funimation.

Budokai 1 is okay but pales in comparison to its sequels and the BT games.

Take off the nostalgia goggles, it really isn't that good. It's pretty OK at best.

@KingOfLegends23 I dunno, my bro always preferred BT2 instead.

I think Budokai is a good gmae, but i don't think it's aged well.

@@e1iteyoshi998 Yeah, Budokai 1's aged worse than milk.

Your opinion. I don't like SSJ4 either

It’s nice to know I’m not alone

He's great! Bandages is a lie!

The idea that there are apologists for Yamcha is weird. Ain't like he's a controversial character.

I mean not in the traditional sense no, but I still encounter a lot of people who make dated jokes about 'Yamcha's so weak lel' or whatever.

@@rej3ktstudios986 Yeah, he became kind of a meme as 'the loser', which is honestly baffling to me. Dude is am multi-millionaire baseball player, he ACTUALLY uses his abilities for monetary gain, he's probably the smartest dude there.

Dragonball z Ultimate tenkaichi. Worst dbz game in history. nuff said.

Raging blast 2 had alot but didn't know what to do with it most of the time

@Felipe M. Ultimate tenkaichi was a rock, paper scissors type of gameplay.

The music for that game was badass

My favorite DBZ game is still Budokai Tenkaichi 2

GT was cancelled though.

Noah Spaulding No it wasn’t. Where did you learn that from?

It's pretty public knowledge. I recommend watching the Geekdom101 video talking about GT as he explains it better than I ever could.

@Shaggy Blanco And SSJB Goku is called SSJ1 Goku colored blue in paint

Say it louder for the people in the back please

No, it's more like this: MUI > SSJG > SSJB > SSJ3 > SSJ4

Not stronger though

@@vlinnstone6919 That's just SSJ4 > SSJ3 > SSJB > SSJG > MUI backwards

AlexTenThousand Yeah I definitely like the design of the form. It’s just a shame that Goku was borderline useless in GT outside of it.

No trust me alot of people like the ss4 design

AlexTenThousand Yeah, I definitely agree with you there. I also hated how Vegeta went SSJ4 by using this machine that Bulma made, ‘cause the real prince Vegeta wouldn’t just throw away his pride to reach a form that Goku attained on his own. At least we got SSJ4 Gogeta out of it, who is *badass.*

you are never the only one

The problem is that Vegeta had conquered the Great Ape form all the way back in the Saiyan saga because he was in full control. So it makes no sense for SS4 to be that when someone already had done it.

ultra instinct shaggy should be in every fighting game

alex He got killed off in Dragon Ball ZZX

@@E_F4 don't you mean he killed off everyone

KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE

Shit you right.

Ikr

If they added more in rb2 and kept it good or made another one that was good i could stand to see it once more for old times sake

@@Dabajaws they did

@@blgdoesthings4122 No...they didn't...

@@Kezzex if I remember correctly rb2 added a lot of shit

Suburban Trash you got a problem with somebody having an opinion

But it does, though. Haven't you heard Akira talk about Blue? Geez go and educate yourself.

@@vlinnstone6919 blue is a recolor

Omg I had completely pushed this game out of my memory till now. Being a poor kid was rough... Im sure I nearly 100%'d this piece of garbage out of necessity. God was it bad

I recently played the game and good god it is horrible. Like top 5 worst games I have ever played.

Kaioken.

@@megagustman thats a move not a form

*+painhellemental 9000* Oh come on, really!. Even then, it is still a Goku recolor, nothing more. So if people are gonna shit at the Blue transformation for being a recolor I can do the same with the Kaioken.

freeza 2nd form: the same thing as the first form but bigger and with bull horns 3rd form: same as the 1st form but with hydrocephalus

Or don't give it credit as it made no goddamn sense as a Saiyan transformation.

Ironically SSJ4 looks more like a Saiyan god more than any of the Super transformations.

@@uncensored008 hahah tru

@Shaggy Blanco can't be a furry if you're not always in a suit

@@Dabajaws just for ya to know. Being a furry is about art and not suits

That's because you're ignorant. Go and search up why Akira created the SSJG form(s). It's interesting, and far better than SSJ4.

Literally the same except never even had a chance to play the dbz card game lol.

I WAS WONDERING WHY I RECOGNIZED THEM

I already feel that way when he started trashing on Final Bout. Yes, it was not a good game but I like some of it's mechanics (Meteor strike combos) and fighting Oozaru Baby was one of the best thing that game has to offer.

Ye I kinda hate this guys guts

Final Bout is way overhated. It was the FIRST 3D Dragon Ball game and had things that even more recent games sometimes lack, like beam struggles and tournaments. And Meteor system was unique.

I stopped when he said their wasn't any Super Saiyans in the game which is a lie. There's Super and Super Saiyan forms of Little Goku, Goku, and Trunks. And there's Super forms of Vegeta and Vegetto which showed he was talking out his ass

@@orochiken7453 I Think He Ment The Intro

@@hereticX67 There wasn't really a point to any other of the forms either. It should've just stayed at SSJ, but since GT was a new thing back then I guess they wanted to add something different. The design looks fine off the bat but from other conversations I had, the color choices don't seem to make sense but honestly I'm not sure what other colors the fur would work with. I imagine brown fur looking weird with black hair, the only one to pull that off was SSJ4 gogeta since the colors of the fur and hair were switched.

11:11 rip 2014 :(

You hated Raging Blast but haven't played a Dragonball game since Budokai 3? So you never even tried Raging Blast but still hate it? Either you aren't making sense or you are too stupid to have your own opinions and just go along with other people say.

Daddy Robin if Raging Blast 2 had a story mode and GT characters, it would be the best DBZ arena brawler with the exception of ZBR

@@Zaylovesu2 it already is

Fiinix 24 i’d say Tenkaichi Tag Team is

...I love how the comment is liked even though I fucked the sentence up with "looking ass" instead of "loving ass". Anyway, you liking the comment made my day.

stop talking shit I just think it’s too cluttered, as someone who sees simplicity as VERY important for a design. Throwing too much onto a design hurts the eyes, and makes it hard to appreciate. Doing more with less is what I love. It’s why I love original Super Saiyan and God so much.

@@xavierparis2789 super Saiyan 4 is not really that complex in details Black hair, red fur and a red tail that's all really

@@xavierparis2789 You just called ssj4 cluttered? How tf

Stephen Carter Compare it to Super Saiyan for a second. All it did was make his hair spikier and turn his hair gold, and give his eyes a new tint. That was it. It was simple and appealing. SSJ4 has their hair grow, change into some random color (why is Vegeta’s hair brown? WHY IS GOGETA’S RED?!), coat their body in red fur, obviously they have their tail change too, they get this weird eye outline, their eyes turn orange, their shirt is popped off...that’s way more detail than we need. It’s CLUTTERED.

Xavier Paris SSJ4 is a bit big in terms of design, but it is NOWHERE near cluttered. Literally the only major changes are long hair, red fur, eyes, tail. It’s a callback to what the Saiyans *were*. Humans with monkey attributes (tails, oozaru, etc.) not godlike beings who can destroy planets like it’s a LEGO set.

Oh no! That little misinformation about a Japanese game none of us will ever play affects his opinion or points about Battle of Z. Internet probably fucked that up lol and dude battle of Z is literally Gundam VS but not as good so I don't know what you're talking about in that regard. Battle of Z feeling like a moba??? Have you ever played a moba? Yikes. It's about as far away from a moba as you could possibly be. If youre talking about a multiplayer BRAWLER, I can agree. Does Battle of Z have minions and lanes and pushing and tower and all that jazz? No you go in an arena and fight, like what?

​@@RekashalGames MOBA is an acronym for Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.... Minions are not a necessity for the genre. The arche-type is team play by META, in BoZ you have Melee, ranged, and support type characters and the game tells you as such, It's a MOBA. There's not a single mechanic in BoZ that translates to or from Gundam VS. Gundam Vs you are constantly pulled to the ground and must use boosting and hopping to move your character you have 5 melee attacks rainbow steps, shot cancelling, etc I could go on. Battle of Z was not trying to be Gundam and its silly to think that it was with the way it pushes you to play. You can see the clear difference when you compare Zenkai to Gundam VS how you can pick from the elements. Zenkai and Gundam VS both force the player in the air to the ground. The only difference is Zenkai stops the player from decending if an input is being read. BOZ however does none of this. In BoZ you can target your teammate to feed them energy so they don't get tired, and put at a major disadvantage, In BOZ you get a reward for simply meleeing the same person that your team mate is hitting, and you have Chase follow ups, that reward the team for responding to them by giving them a larger Ki pool. I could go on. Case and point is. Not every game with a Lock-On and a behind the back camera is trying to be Gundam Vs jfc. and a Multiplayer Brawler is Anarchy Reigns, that game does not force roles onto characters and gives you large stages to fight in. Also no one said a damn thing about his opinion on BoZ the fact that he still provided incorrect information on Zenkai Battle isn't changed by his damn opinion.

that is when real niggas click downvote

LMAO

even Toriyama likes SSJ4's design

Super saiyan:yellow Super saiyan 2:lightning Super saiyan 3:raditz hair Me: oh boy i wonder what form goku is gonna get *red base form* Me:ok but there must be something else *blue super saiyan* Me:anything good *goku blanco* Me:.....i miss gt

@@Dabajaws imo UI looks way better than SSJ4 (I still do like SSJ4's design)

STEP INTO THE GRAND TOUR

@@austineruption its not that bad bruh, you were kinda over exaggerating but it's your channel.

funny thing I watched Gt Dubbed with a dubbed translation of the Japanese opening on dvd and wondered why did america decide tio go with Goku gangsta rap

@@IllMatic97 'not that bad' it was worse than the Pokerap. POKERAP

Lol, why'd I always think, "STEP INTO THE BATHROOM"

Finally, I have found my brethren

@@toonandy2189 I know right? 😂🙌🏻

@@rukus7661 hello brethren 🙌🏻

Finally! Someone with a brain! Thank you!

i belive budokai is mid, even as a kid i thought the best aspect of it was the story mode, but this video is just full of bad hot takes. Which sucks bevause austin usually makes good videos

ultra instinct is probably the best thing from super ui sign atleast

@@hypenerd6062 not saying UI was bad, it was just unoriginal and from the looks it was just Base Goku with grey eyes and SLIGHTLY spiker hair. And Mastered version the same, just with white hair. GT Designs in general I prefer over most things from Super. every being on their space Journey looked unique, some more, some less, but still. Baby had a interesting Design. You can say he was Prototype Goku Black, just called Vegeta Black. He was Baby inside Vegetas Body, like Zamasu being inside Gokus body (just how they got into said bodys was different), and much like Goku Black, Baby Vegeta, at first, looked just like Vegeta (just with some marks on eyes and face, and white hair), but the more he made this body his own, the more different it looked, until it had a completely unique design that not even resembling Vegeta anymore. Unlike Goku Black, who looked like from beginning to end =/ And Babys Design and his evolution was also good and interesting. Same for the Shadow Dragons, each look different (Well except Nova and Ice of course), have different Characters and even while some of them where just throwaway villains of the week, they were still interesting and what they can do and what personality they have. I say only Super 17 was kinda meh, but I can't say I hate him. Compare this with 90% of the Super Cast, and you will see that most of them are plain and boring looking, or just ripoffs of other Characters. Cabba is looking like Tarble, Vegetas Brother, with a different face. Forst is pretty much Freezer 2.0 but without his awesome personality, Botamo is discount Winnieh the Pooh and Magetta is actually nice! His Design and his Abilitys are quite nice, and he reminds me of some Chrono Trigger Designs, which is always good! But they did not much with him, tough what they did I liked. Hit looks kinda plain and simple, but for him that works, since that is his whole schtick. He is a assassin, hired to murder, he is not supposed to look fancy and unique, he is supposed to look plain and simple to blend in and not draw needless attention. So he gets a pass! ALso he was one of the more interesting characters, and especially since he is an assassin, his mysterious Character and Abilitys are deserved and it actually compliments him that we don't know too much about him. Sadly, he got ruined in STUPID Filler Episode, when Goku hired him to kill Goku himself, and they kinda nerfed his whole ability and stuff. The Universal tournament just put the nail in the coffin for him. Awesome Character, terribly wasted. Caulifla and Kale are also just boring designs. Especially Caulifla, who looks just like Buff Trunks Hair put on Little Girl with the WORST possible Personality you could have given to her. Kale is even worse. I like her base design, still way too small for my taste (I mean, for being Saiyans, even if it is alternate universe ones, they look NOTHING like Saiyans at all!), but overall not as plain and boring as caulifla, but then she goes Berserk and it is female Broly... LITERALLY BROLY WITH TITS! I facepalmed so hard at this. And let us not talk about the fusion. some Nice scenes, but that was it. The Manga handled at least Kale a little better, showing that in terms of skill, she is actually not behind the other warriors, and in fact, might even surpass them, especially in speed. Also her Character and transformation made more sense in the context of the manga. And no, I won't get into the pride troopers... and certainly not Jiren.

@@NeroDeAngelo dont get me wrong ssj4 looks far better than the forms in super but by super standards ultra instinct sign is probably most unique looking

i think frieza said it best, Super Saiyan with blue hair dye lol it really is just lazy, GT may have been not all that good but some designs we're epic. and Ss4 is exactly that.

I agree minus ultra instict part. UI is actually just as good (not counting MUI that one looks like shit)

@TrueGamerOpinion are you sure I'm the comment you ment to respond to?

Thanks man! You have a good new year too!

I NEED IT

No. The only good part of SSJ4 was when SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Gogeta, and SSGSS Vegito is overpowered, but that's what you get when the 2 strongest warriors in the series fuse together. And you call yourself an "enthusiast", of Dragon Ball Z? No way. You're no enthusiast. You seem like a snob or a troll to me. Can't you just accept that people out there like SSJ4, hate SSJ4, like SSGSS, and hate SSGSS Blue, and their fusions?

@@shawnfields2369 says the geeza with a crappy opinion but ok

@@dbzenthusiast8152 Great, nice talking to you too.

@@shawnfields2369 oh my days, well if you wanna start a debate over it, then I’m down

@@dbzenthusiast8152 But I do want to say sorry about the whole saying you're NOT an enthusiast thing a few minutes ago. I think I just let my own love of the entire DB series blind me there for a minute. But I genuinely don't hate the SS Blue Super Saiyan designs. And while i love the entire franchise, it's not 100% perfect, but it is pretty close. I mean, I grew up with it when it was syndicated on Toonami in 2004, when I was only 10 or 11 at the time(I'm 28 now),it was great. And I did have a like/hate relationship with GT for a while, because of how it tried to repeat actual arcs from DBZ, instead of being it's own thing; but when it got cancelled, after only 64 episodes, I began thinking, maybe GT was unfairly criticized. But the villains did have good backstories. Like Baby wanting revenge against the Saiyans because they eradicated the Tuffles and their planet, so they combined the Red Ribbon Army's revenge against Goku, and added another layer to it, by having Baby win by literally controlling the entire planet. Scary stuff. I mean; Baby was consumed by his own hatred for the Saiyan Race. But that arc did have Hercule and Majin Buu trying to help save the earth, and Goku having to fight all alone, which was hard to see, seeing Goten, Gohan, Trunks, all kicking the crap out of Goku, was hard to watch. But after thinking about it and seeing the best GT villains make their way into Dragon Ball FighterZ(Baby Vegeta, Super 17, Omega Shenron), yeah, I mean I did like their characters, even if they do seem like repeats of other DB or DBZ villains, those 3 are some of the best villains Dragon Ball has had, because Baby Vegeta actually mind controlled the entire planet, and destroyed it, Omega Shenron beat everybody and made Goku and the others realize that they relied WAY too heavily on the Dragon Balls, and needed to solve their own problems, without them, and Super 17 was just the conclusion to the Red Ribbon Army stuff, from the original Dragon Ball. And again, sorry if I crossed a line or touched a nerve by saying you're not an enthusiast or anything like that. I mean, I genuinely do like the designs of all the SSJ versions of Goku and Vegeta, I just wish Trunks or Gohan had one, you know? And I definitely wish that Trunks would've gotten his sword repaired too... I mean, Tapion gave him that sword because he reminded him of his brother, and Trunks cut down Mecha Frieza, King Cold, and the last remnants of Frieza's Army with that sword. And, I mean, Future Trunks and Gohan are 2 of my favorite DBZ characters, so you know, a little SSJ4 or SSGSS designs for them would've been nice too...

Otaking Mikohani I personally like the Tenkaichi Games more than Budokai...but that doesn’t mean they’re bad XD

neither of them are truely better than each other. Each reach a point of being fully solidified and well thought out mechanically.

@@Domined3 Flight controls do not belong in a fighting game. Unless it's that Cho Aniki fighting game, but it can get away with it because it's 2D

​@@otaking3582 Any control belongs anywhere if done right. Flight controls are in Super DBZ which mechanically, and game-feel wise absolutely trashes Budokai in everyway. Both Tenkaichi and Budokai are solid for what they wanted to introduce. The flight controls in Tenkaichi do not hinder a player who knows what they're doing. And as a counter to this silly statement whenever you're forced into the air in Budokai you lose most if not all cancel Juggle combo options because of how the characters wake back up earlier. So you should be complaining about Budokai NOT giving you flight controls. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/namce6Rp2te5qYE.html "Flight controls don't belong in a fighting game." kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7GDnauiptS8g30.html

Agreed, both games are good by Tenkaichi is just vanish enemy attacks and then charge ki, do a knock back combo into a super, and for me the only real difficulty was artificial like the Hirudegarn fight where you used Saiyaman who only had rush supers which don’t work on giants, but even then you could power down into regular gohan and get access to ki supers

wut. Is he serious? Is he actually serious? So Toriyama just contradicted himself again? Screw it I'm going against him, the potarra fusion is more powerful and always has been.

Look up the translation of the article I mentioned above, "Dream Match!! Gogeta vs Vegetto!! Who is the Strongest in the Universe?!" The article was released in early December. Though the article still states that Potura fusion is still permanent, even though that was retconned for "Mortals" during Super.

@@marbles8641 my gess it takes the part of its permanet if one is at least sk

So vegito just got to play smart to get the win

Jiryn you’re wrong. Both fusions are equal in strength/power.

Igneeka because it got cancelled

@@Luisreza12 What ? It wasn't cancelled, it was supposed to end with the Baby saga but they added two more arcs

Source?

@@Igneeka Not responding are you? Are you silently admitting to being full of crap by not responding to my request for a source?

​@@AidGum Wow wow no I looked it up yesterday for a few minutes don't worry but forgot to respond, what I said came from the DBWiki dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT but I couldn't find anything in the sources (hell half of it is either a dead link or things I can't find translated online) So yeah it looks like I was wrong, after reading the kanzenshuu however there's also nothing said about it being cancelled and it appeared that it was pretty popular at the time, somehow (www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ if you want to check) So yeah no "end during Baby saga" stuff but it wasn't cancelled either

Bupiest Boi it’s not bad, as long as you didn’t like Taiketsu you’re good because that game was hot trash

@@LeMuDX Never played it, it sounds pretty bad though, so I probably won't try it.

Bupiest Boi good don’t waste your time on it

@@SomeboodyIusedtoknow It was basicially a portable fighting game with horrible graphics, bad controls, and pretty bad everything.