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Still waiting for Riot to realize that they could make the funniest thing in the game by adding Max HP scaling to Kog’s passive damage

A death passive on a hypercarry that isnt suposed to die is always going to be badly designed, no matter how you go about it

Activating W can also lower Kled's ceiling. His W is one of the reasons why Kled is hard to master because it takes a lot of patience and perfect timing to use it. If you accidentally hit the wrong target with your W1, then good luck for the remaining seconds. Quite a lot of players (including me) wished W could be toggled but that's a bad idea to practice.

Nasus's Wither is one of the abilities I have the most problem with. With how slow it makes you, it's basically a 5 second point-and-click root that also lowers attack speed for no reason.

As someone who used to main Yorick, his W is surprisingly good ability. If you play him enough you get used to hitting E:s constantly which will give you free wall most of the time. Also it is an amazing escape tool seeing you don't have dashes, just run to the jungle and block the whole pathway with the wall (don't try to block the enemy inside of the W, but block them outside it so they need to break the wall or have two dashes). Also best feeling in the world is when you have an vladimir against you and you get him stuck inside your W when he pools. Also if you have your ult and minions out and you get enemy stuck inside the W, you can run in to Q, then run out to wait for the CD to come back while your minions do all the dirty work. Yorick wall is one of his best abilities.

Teemo's kit in wild rift is amazing. Everything in there feels cohesive, feels like an actual well thought out kit with a clear identity. Hit and run. In wild rift Teemo has his passive and his e switched so instead of having to stand still to activate it, you can now activate it on demand and you retain invisibility while standing still, instead you get to keep the in is for a few seconds after u move. This already gives Teemo so many new ways to play by being able to choose whether u want to lie and wait or go for damage and then run away. This also allows him to put points into other abilities instead or being forced to put all his points in his e to do his main for of damage. Ofc his w is a small dash (a cute little roll) and then a movement speed buff after the dash. His ulti is a instead a small area of effect that lingers for a bit rather than this big explosion, making it so it reduces people's frustration with him, you are no longer punished for your teams mistakes. Basically his wild rift rework makes him less frustrating to play against and more rewarding to play while giving him a multitude of diffrent playstyles. It also allows him to go jungle which tbh fits Teemo a lot more anyways.

I wouldnt call Kleds W badly designed. Its not satisfying to be bound to its cooldown and involuntary use yes but its the one balancing lever Kled has. The whole design philosophy of Kled is to go absolute ham whenever and when it works you more or less win. So cranking down the damage on W damages the point of the character where you get rewarded for playing risky.

I feel like golden aegis isnt a badly designed ability. Its a good idea, just to weak

I kind of like Kled's violent tendencies becuase of how well it fits kleds charecture. It also forces you to play smart in lane around it, using your q to farm instead of autoing.

I think a badly desinged _abilty_ should _primarily_ be about the said ability’s interaction with the rest of the game. Satisfaction and cohasion with the rest of the kit should come later. Because a horribly designed ability can still be “fun to use” or “coherent with the champ’s kit” like Akali’s first shroud that hid her from towers. It was _horribly designed_ despite being coherent with the champ’s kit.

im sorry but singed's non confrontational playstyle is his mark and what makes him unique. I love him the way he is

if yorick e grounded enemies, even for just half a second, all the yorick mains would coom

I am not a singed main or player but I really like singed's q / poison ability. It encourages me to play league in a different way concretely. It adds some interest and spice to the game, much more so than the gimmicks riot later added such as dancing around Fiora's ult or Jhins and Graves reload mechanics.

As a yorick main I love his w, once you hit e it is almost a surefire way to hold them But a lot of the time you can control much like an anivia where the enemy goes but with allies having freedom to pass, great for disengages or for zoning and a pain to deal with.

As a singed player, I think you miss the point of singed. We like him BECAUSE he's indirect. He's so unique you need to unlearn the whole game to master him. Poison trail is amazing because it's opposite day for league, and it gives us an edge because it breaks normal player brains

Singed Q is the most unique ability in the game. No other champ attacks behind themselves.

something you forgot to mention about Shaco's W that is super toxic I'd argue the most toxic part actually is that if you are a melee champ you literally cannot disarm Shaco box you have to walk into it because scanning it doesn't disable it

No, Singed is perfect.

I appreciate that you used my clips for the Shaco W example, that's so cool to see

I think some of the choices kinda missed the point of the video - Kled W and Singed Q are might be difficult to play around, but thats exactly what makes them well designed, as they have very high skill expression. Overall good video, but some questionable choices.

My main issues with shaco boxes is that even if you detect it with an oracle melee units can’t destroy the box unless they have a skill shot because the get feared if they try to auto it

As wild rift player, I can confirm Teemo's W is a dash but the dash is so short and slow to the point it looks like he is just walking fast. If you ask me, it's basically still the same.

kog idea: when he dies, he latches onto the champions face and blind them before blowing up. Still does barely any damage, but idk mix it up riot!

Kled's W is actually very well designed and is part of his balance. He's unpopular because he's hard, but that doesn't mean W is badly designed. You just have to learn how to engage correctly since he has one of the strongest all-in's in the game.

Yorick's W is hard to use as every are cc of it's kind has to be. You always can expect morgana's Q and dodge it but it doesn't make it a badly designed ability. You don't use Yorick's W until the enemie is either locked on an animation or alredy fighting you

I was about to lose it when I saw singed Q on the thumbmail. Ready for conflict but the guy's not completely wrong. Respect

I think your view of yorick W is maybe a bit too closeminded in its usage. It might be just a portable wall but that by itself has a lot of uses be it cutting off chokes or cancelling charged abilities. You can even stand in it yourself to help make space against melee enemies. I think that it is a far more impactful and useful ability than you give it credit for

Just as a form of contrast with positive intentions I feel that abilities that can be fixed with numbers tweaks (increase the range of Yoric and Jarvan W) can’t really be described as badly designed so much as just badly tuned.

i feel like the wild rift version of move quick is better, it may not be that significant since it is one of the slowest and shortest dash in the game, but it’s still better than it’s current form

I feel like violent tendencies should still activate on its own but only against certain targets (towers, champs and large monsters only let's say) to make it still uncontrollable but at least slightly more consistent

Master Yi's entire design should be here, lol. Great video as always 👌

As a Yorick enjoyer the main point of his W is that it blocks the autopathing completly. Since everyone always clicks on you to move when you block the way they instantly turn around, just like with anivia ^^

That moment when singed tooltip says it does 100 damage per second but a 33% magic damage reduction enemy takes 15-20 damage instead I love playing singe so much, especialy when you have 3 items and get instakilled by a 1 item Yi because he presses E and you get hit for 1500 true damage...

With this video Vars said "I am a top main who plays Darius, Sett, Garen and the sort" lol

I forget if you've already discussed it but...veigar's cage. It's literally a big part of why he is my least favorite champion. It's just a better version of another champion's ULT. It traps you in this tiny area where it's hard to dodge all the skill shots flying at you and if you fail to dodge one you get stunned and one shot anyway, and oh you thought you could just dash over it with something like tristana w? No it technically goes all the way up so no you are 100% stuck.

Hard disagree on the singed ability. Here we have an actual unique way to attack an opponent and one that’s been in the game since 2009 and still, it’s somehow viable and in the game and not overbearing. Just because it’s not interactive does not make it a bad ability, annoying does not equal bad or you could make a case for every single ability in the game

"W tends to be the one champions max last" *laughs in Sett...*

As a Yorick OTP i find the Wall a very useful and fairly easy to use ability. Your point about "if you miss the E you will miss the wall" is mute because if you miss the E, your not getting ghouls to attack, meaning you are missing a massive portion of your damage, making walling someone pointless as it wont really help you. Aside from working very well with E, you can use it against slow champions like mord, as well as a general wall to block chokes, cover retreats (especially covering a retreating maiden), slow down an enemy whose trying to all in you (very good against jungle ganks) or to punish champions who use their dash to engage. Its a pretty good ability with alot of use cases. (You can also use it to make nunu players cry as it destroys their snowball lol)

I like Yoricks W, it's basically a hard CC ability that isn't a cc ability, so it doesn't trigger spell shield and similar abilities

2:53 With that said Vars is looking forward to Cogmaw turning into saibaman upon death

I disagree about poison trail. singed's entire identity is that his playstyle revolves around kiting people with poison trail. without that he wouldnt be singed

Singed is a well designed champ. He runs around. Goes in, disrupts. Jarvan's shield used to be OP on release. It's not badly designed, just a matter of numbers. J4's been gutted throughout the years.

As a Yorick main kinda funny how you find the best part of his kit to be the badly designed one.. Sure Ghouls, Maiden have bad AI, He technically has no passive since Q is used for graves and you can't even make graves once maiden is out but.. W is still his best tool because it's very versatile in how you can use it, granted it can be frustrating since it's range is short and cast time is long and is almost useless in some matchups..

Forcing the game to play differently is something I actually value. Fighting Singed is different, it shapes the course of the game differently. Variety is good

Hi Vars, I really like your videos. The only ability i would not agree with is the one from Singed. I mean, i understand what you said, but i do think that is not only Ok but desirable to have abilities that contradict with the main state/mentality of the game right now (that is actually based on direct confrontation), specially for Anti-carries, Enchanters and, obviously, specialists such as Singed. The ability is what makes singed unique and do have a lot of counterplay to it (i mean, any CC makes him not able to move which counters this ability, reducing to almost zero its pressure). I guess it does offer an almost unfair advantage for champions without CC, but a lt of champions have unfair advantage against Singed, so it maybe cause him to be kind of situational. I still think it is a well designed ability though. Kogmaw on the other hand.... Oh my gosh, sometimes i even forget that he has a passive.

As an ex kled main, I think that Kleds W is absolutely a well designed ability, you essentially said he has too much countercplay to his W. It's a key part to Kleds skill expression and very much relates to his character. It's a difficult ability to master and I don't think that if it were an activatable ability I would love him nearly as much. I don't mind my champ having uncontrolable obvious windows of vulnerability, that's where his depth comes from.

It actually happened. Another episode. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

Goodness did we actually run out of badly designed abilities only after 3 episodes? None of this was bad or even poor design.

When I first dropped a skin for Yorick, I played him for the first time ever. I had taken down nexus towers at 14th minute, enemy team started flaming "you should enjoy the game, tryhard" etc. I went on a couple of more games, mostly bullying people on top lane, then I got a Jax matchup. Of he didn't give a single f to my W, I so terribly lost that game I didn't touch Yorick for a while again.

As a Yorick main, I'd like to say that his W is honestly great and adds a lot of skill expression to him. Yorick's W is a great offensive and defensive ability that opens a bunch of opportunities for him to both engage and disengage. It is also a great zoning tool and even a pushing one too. A few uses for Yorick's W that I'd like to note: -Trapping an enemy to prevent escape and/or make landing his E easier. -Trapping an enemy to prevent them from engaging on Yorick or chasing him down. -Blocking off an entire opening in terrain to prevent rotations and ganks. -Surrounding the maiden to prevent enemies from attacking her. -Placing it under turret to absorb an entire turret shot to allow your ghouls and minions to deal a small amount of extra damage. -Stopping enemy recalls by placing the edge on them. There might be a few uses I missed, but I delivered the general idea I had in mind. The only time this ability feels bad is when you're up against a high mobility champion that can simply dash around like its nothing or a champion with auto resets that allow them to instantly break the wall early on. Usually, you want to max this 2nd instead of your E to let the wall last longer, but in situations where the enemy doesn't care about it, you don't. Sorry for the ramble, thank you for the video @Vars

If yorick w was easy to hit it would be straight up broken. It preety much guarantees a E hit, which is a lot of dmg. You cant give a stat stick a reliable way to start a fight. Otherwise you have hecarim

On the matter of Singeds Q. The ability may be badly designed when it comes to conforming to the playstyle of most other champions, but it is also what makes him unique. His way of hit and run and indirect confrontation is so very different from most other champions in the game that it would feel refresing if it wasn't so frustrating to play him. Personally, I would not even want to change his q, or his run down playstyle, but rather his cirumstances. The worst part about playing him is usually being forced into the kind of direct confrontation he likes to avoid on toplane, because it is easy to do so in a constrained lane setting, especially for champions that excel in these kinds of things and before he has items that solve his many weaknesses. Which is why, instead of changing his q or kit entirely, I would simply prefer it to increase his q dmg against monsters, thus making him a jungler, which would not just solve his crippling mana problems early, but also make it far easier to avoid direct confrontation when you are not ready as well as farm when your team has even a bit of early pressure. Even more so, when you consider that his high mobility and safe crowd control are great for ganking and his poison trail far more effective in the constrained pathway of the jungle. So, please riot, make him 68% less degenerate by making him a jungler.

I feel like aside from kog'maw passive, this guy just made a rage list of things that make him tilt. League wouldn't be the same nor a better game if Kled lost his randomness, Shaco lost his box, Singed lost his Q, Yorick lost his cage and Yi his W. All those habilities made those champions set their marks in the game. It's not about not agreeing to the list, I completly disagree in every possible way. Those kits where not badly desingned, you just want every character to feel boring >:(

Master Yi himself deserves a whole video of "badly designed" for himself ngl

First time i disagree with a point, singeds poison is the porpuse of his gameplay been interesting, the run around making ppl adapt is THE pleasure i have playing singed

Yorick's W should really interrupt dashes because the way it is now it gets completely ignored by 9/10 modern champions

I'm surprised Fizz's E (trickster) hasn't showed up in this series yet. It's an ability that: 1) has 2 separate redirectionable dashes, 1.5) that can pass through walls; 2) becomes untargetable, 3) deals AOE damage, 4) deals AOE slow (even if a short one), 5) with nice AP ratio's, 6) and all of that on a short 8s (or less) cooldown. You could pick 3 of these isolated points alone and they would already make for a good ability. As it is it's just oversaturated.

“Run around in circles spreading poison instead of taking enemy head on…” ??? The only way to do damage with singed is to run head first into an enemy, that’s his whole thing. He’s a movement/positioning centered champ

as a shaco main i think that the real problem with shaco's w is the duration of the fear, for example qiyana also have 2 stuns in her R and the ¿Q? i think, when she has the ice augment but the stun of the Q is short and the R is pretty skill based, shaco can have u in basically a 5 second stun if he times correctly his boxes and his R, that's way too much time for a asassin to have, but with all that i think that is a good ability in paper, it's just the execution that is lame xd

My biggest frustration with shaco box is that once it disappears after 1 or 2 seconds of being placed you can’t hit it with skillshots so you need sweeper or control wards if you want to go through it without tanking it.

Yorick have a ground on E would be very reasonable, but have you heard LS talking about him? He figures a few hundred range would make the W a worthwhile engage ability. What would you think of it having the range of a Trundle pillar?

Well, as a J4 main, I love his W for the slow. The shield is the secondary effect, for me. Kog'Maw's passive could be modified like this: When Kog'Maw's HP drop below 10%, he becomes invulnerable for 1/2/3 seconds (upgraded in levels 8/13) and moves freely. After the effect, a blast of true damage is unleashed around him in a short radius. So you have a great escape tool instead of a useless suicide passive.

The Persona 4 music in the background is giving me flashbacks... I feel like I've earned a shuffle time but one isn't coming.

Ill say it again Singeds fling is way more infuriating than poison trail as this one is pure interaction denial and barely any opponent can do anything about it

Veigar's cage. Such an uninteractive ability. Discourages engage or rushdown. Just e and walk away. If flashless, blinkless or spellshieldless you are a sitting duck. Sure veigar has no mobility, but you can't catch him either if you don't have very specific tools to catch him. veigar has one of the best cc and defencive tool on an infinite scaling champ.

Nah yorick wall is crazy. You can use it just a zoning ability that you walk thru for safety, like in morde ult.

I always felt like Yoricks Procession should give a little speed boost when he passes through it, like Jayce's Gate. This would make it to where he gains a little bit of sticking power even on a miss and diversifies its utility when enemies are out of range.

Concerning Yorick's W, my opinion is that, instead of Morning Mist grounding for 1 sec, Dark procession should stop dashes. It would make it a worst Event Horizon (wich is good, nothing whould be as good as event horizon). This suggestion comes from someone that hates everything with dashes.

As a singed main i disagree Yes its a funky playstyle where you have to run from the enemy in order to win, but thats an oversimplification, singed is melee, with no way to do any damage infront of him outside of everfrost and rocketbelt, so in order to actually kill anyone he has to keep on going back in to reapply poison, this combined with the huge mana costs of his abilities (his fling costs as much as an ult, and his w is similar) and the fact that most toplaners have a way to sustain vs singed (sett passive, garen passive, morde w, fiora passive, grasp, aatrox, lifesteal, etc.) means that singed is in it to win it baby, he cant afford to actually back out of a fight or he just loses based on resources. So it ends up being a fun little game of cat and mouse but replace cat with your generic toplane bully champ and mouse with a feeble old fart man. All in all, singed q allows for a unique and fun playstyle that allows both parties to duke it out, just not in the same explosive way you would with other champs perhaps

I actually think Kled's W is a greatly designed ability... it's actually a minigame where you can choose to give up a minion to keep the ability and trade, and/or your opponent can capitalize on the fact that you used it on a minion to trade In a way, its very similar to gp's passive(in that he can waste it on minions), or fiora's passive(where she can give a minion or two to go back and reset the mark - and you can do the same)

Sejuani's W uses her weapon, prevents her from landing basic attacks, deals physical damage, but somehow it scales with AP instead of AD

One of the worst designed abilities you should talk about is veigar r. It point and click that has insane scaling and coupled with his passive becomes a death sentence for any squishy in mid and late game. A champion designed to get infinite ap shouldn’t have a point and click ability with high scaling

I maintain that HOTS handled the implementation of an ability like Kog's passive infinitely better. One its on Tyrael, who is a tank. Two everyone hit deals something like 50% reduced damage for a few seconds. Three everyone hit also lowers his death timer. That last one could be huge if it was added to Kog

Happy to see Teemo's W finally in one of these. He's a squishy top laner with the bare minimum for a movement speed ability, PC Teemo needs WR Teemo's dash just to be able to have a chance to survive since most top lane champs can just dive him and he cant get away.

Teemo entire kit: P:do nothings for AS and invis, can only move in brush...happy infernal dragon. Q: dmg and Blind slightly more range than his aa. No not Quinn blind, or Graves kind of blind, but just no aa blind. Abilities hurt normally. W: Move faster when not hit, on press move fast for 3s. E: Twitch passive, slightly better. R: cleansable Shrooms that don't count to vision score. Shaco box minus Fear but longer duration. One could move his E into a Passive, P could be fused with W, and this would open up a new E ability. FYI Akshan's Passive: DIRTY FIGHTING Every three hits from Akshan's Attacks and Abilities deals bonus damage and grants him a Shield if the target was a champion. When Akshan Attacks, he fires an additional Attack for reduced damage. If he cancels the additional Attack, he instead gains Move Speed.

Bit of remind: Xerath had simular ability to meditation, locust of power. Ir didnt heal him but it gave him magic pen after cannel was over.

I'm a kog main and its kinda disappointing how people assure with such confidance changes to fix the passive's issues, when the passive itself is the problem. You wont fix the fact that a hypercarry has to die to use it by adding some scailing, by making it easier to land nor increasing the damage. I can't even say it is worth it the funny moments because there were so many times where i almost killed a champion but couldnt, moments where even flat additional damage on auto attacks could have made the difference.

This series will inevitably include every yi ability I’m sure of it now

I’ve always had a problem with Yoricks W just breaking my game, basically stunning me.

Hi, another Yorick OTP here :D I think Yorick's W is one of the most not understood ability in the game, people literally use it to: E-W, yes thats it. But for me: Yorick W is the only real source of tankiness in his kit, when you are dueling with HUMAN (no "bot") his W is used for kitting around/ create more space between you and enemy because, what we know, yorick is not a bruiser, he is an AD mage/spell caster.

I would say that Yorik's Q is badly designed. Charged attack and summoning zombies on the same button means sometimes you summon zombies by accident. It would be much more correct to make Yorick's passive active.

Draven has the same ability as teemo, but there are no conditions atached and the cooldown resets. I think it's worth mentioning

i think kled's w is great to characterize kled. kled's playstyle is "me go in" and an ability that basically forces you to trade while its up is one of the best ways to include a character's personality in gameplay and therefore a core part of his gameplay. it's like saying jhin's passive is bad because he has to reload, which gives enemies a timer to kill him. if you want to be good at the champion(s), you need to learn how to play around it. kled is a great example because players come up with tricks like not skilling W until it's needed for the first time. that way you avoid losing your main damage for a large part of early lane.

I'm willing to nominate yorics whole kit for this series, definitely a top 5 champion that makes me second guess waking up

Just thought i'd correct this: 11:50 Meditate still only runs for 4 seconds. You can't channel it indefinitly. You can safe mana by canceling it early.

The yi just made me think of the long cooldown that bel vet's move has in comparison. It also made me think how she's kinda underwhelming rn, and how we originally thought she was going to be this minion master empress. Well, what if she could spawn her children at E anytime based on a passive? She could be reworked to have her little voiding come out after her E so it has more use! Just a thought...

I feel like you could change kleds w to work similar to gnar transform, maybe like: it activates always after 4 attacks in quick sucession, or you can activate it with e/q. That would keep the theme of "angry outburst" of the ability but would make it more usable.

dude!!! i used to watch your old maplestory videos! i clicked on this video randomly and recognized your voice lol. i remember your Jinli night walker. hope all is well !

As a Talon main, I really think you should consider his E as a potential candidate, the reason being is that it feels both unsatisfying to use and to face. Talon's E is very buggy and even with numerous "bugfixes" it still feels like it does not work 30% of the time, as you either backflip, just jump in the air, or go in a different direction than intended. While it can be used in certain combos such as redirecting his ult and W, it still feels useless besides running away or following a flash in a 1v1 scenario. However, from an enemy perspective it feels like it has no counterplay at times and is the reason why the rest of Talon's kit has to be weaker than other AD assassins. It is easily the best roaming tool in the game, and sometimes it feels like even though you played the lane well versus him, he just presses E bot and gets a double kill. Yes it does have obvious counterplay with pings and vision, however the fact that it can go over any piece of terrain allows Talon to seemingly jump out of nowhere, oneshot the carry, and get out. Even when he was overpowered in jungle do to his W, the number one ability people complained about was still his E and how awful it felt to get ganked by Talon. Even though it is a fun ability to use and is what makes Talon such a high macro-intensive champion, it is arguably one of the sole reasons he is disliked.

Thing about shaco W is that it needs to be set up ahead of time. But even then, with low cd, it's not that much of a problem, especially since you can use stealth to place it ahead of the opponent

I will not tolerate this Singed slander

got a penta with kog passive once, that’s the only time i’ve ever found it useful

AP Shaco is and should be his true playstyle. His job is not to run people down with backstab and obliterate them. He is ALL about strategy, he is the most strategic champion in the game, his job is to analyze surroundings, use them against you and use himself to trick you into his moves, he can either blunder or ace. It's a chess game when it comes to AP shaco which is why the best Shaco's in the worlds are master strategists.

Jarvan's case reminds me a bit of Chamber from Valorant - J4's shield sucks because his other abilities are so good. Chamber has 2 abilities that are very underwhelming/weaker versions of other abilities and 2 that are insanely powerful in a hands of skilled player. If you're good at aiming, you basically never have to buy any weapon ever, because his pistol is dead accurate, has no damage fall-off and instakills on headshots, while his sniper rifle is similar to the one that instakills on body shots and you can buy for hefty amount of credits, which is risky because if you die not only you lose the credits, but also enemy can pick it up. However Chamber's rifle cannot be picked up so it's risk free. In addition, because he doesn't have to buy weapons for himself, he can instead buy them for his teammates, which is very valuable. I didn't understand it at first, but it dawned on me why his other 2 abilities suck so badly - because they have to, otherwise he would be a menace to fight against.

vars suggesting yorick e to ground, while pisslows cannot even dodge that ability

Teemo in wild rift indeed has that skill as a dash He also can go on camouflage (instead of invisible) upon command His poison darts are passive

Clarification, Meditate has a duration and the first .5 sec is 90% damage reduction and 45% after that. This damage reduction persists for .5 after meditate ends. They changed this because most players didn't use it for healing, but for a quick reset and damage reduction for abilities. So the cooldown was for this and the mana cost change to compensate. It also healed less before as flat, and they increased it. Basically it was resigned to help facilitate the style of play people were doing. The original purpose before was sustain as that was the idea, but now it is better to tap only and not maintain. It is so incredibly cost inefficient for how much it heals it is better to use for damage reduction than to actually heal.

that persona 4 backround music gave me vietham flashblacks omg

why does the persona 4 music go so well with the intro wtf