Baghdad Carbine: Iraq's Super-Rare Copy of the Rasheed

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Baghdad Carbine: Iraq's Super-Rare Copy of the Rasheed

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In 1974, Iraq and Egypt were still on good relations, and Egypt sold Iraq a batch of 300 Rasheed carbines and the production tooling to manufacture them. Iraq quickly set up production and began making their own copy of the Rasheed in 1974 or 1975, named the "Baghdad". Production ran until 1978, with about 9,000 or 10,000 carbines made.
Information about the Baghdad remains very scarce, and only a handful of the carbines are known to exist in the United States. The production total comes from looking at documented serial numbers, which run from 103,000 to 108,000. Clearly production began at 100,001, and never seems to have exceeded 110,000. The fate of the bulk of these guns remains a mystery today, as relatively few seem to be documented in Iraq and even fewer in the US. Were they destroyed for some reason? Do they survive in storage somewhere in Iraq, or perhaps Iran? We just don't know.
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@ace_098 10 ай бұрын

It also appears they used the same mill without sharpening it through the entire production run

@tombogan03884 10 ай бұрын

Sounds like you may have made a chip or 2 yourself. 😁 Tooling marks are something I look at as well. 😁

@ptonpc 10 ай бұрын

I was wondering if they had got a beaver to gnaw on that steel.

@joesaad3089 10 ай бұрын

Good point

@avishai7830 10 ай бұрын

Machinists, assemble 💪

@simonrook5743 10 ай бұрын

It says they bought the tooling, I guess they continued to use the cutting tools….

@FRIEND_711 10 ай бұрын

At this rate Ian will review every modern firearm ever made, and i honestly have one thing to say to that. "Good"

@tiagobelo4965 10 ай бұрын

and at some point either we make more, or Ian will begin designing and producing new ones for the sake of reviewing them

@zzman305 10 ай бұрын

In 7 years he's gonna be left with nothing but workshop made African homebrews and hand cannons from the late 14th century.

@ghostpasha9076 10 ай бұрын

And then he can start on as many non-modern firearms he can get his hands on

@pb68slab18 10 ай бұрын

I certainly hope so!

@bradywalton1357 10 ай бұрын

Ian looked upon his KZfaq and wept, for he had no more guns to conquer

@SirBoden 10 ай бұрын

That poor fly cutter. They definitely got their money out of it.

@jontee3437 10 ай бұрын

Lol pretty sure it was just 50 dudes 1 file. Took rotations and finished one cut 2 weeks later

@JimsRustyOldNuts 10 ай бұрын

Building a rifle with an angle grinder..impressive.

@clothar23 10 ай бұрын

With Bubba's used discs.

@ianfinrir8724 10 ай бұрын

@@clothar23*Abdul

@waledharedy1370 7 ай бұрын

Disgusting jokers!!!

@bjrnegillarsen1380 10 ай бұрын

I would think the main reason there are few Baghdad rifles on the market is the massive losses of men and materiel during the Iran-Iraq war, Desert Storm and Iraqui Freedom

@AJadedLizard 10 ай бұрын

That and a bunch of them probably ended up with local militias or ISIS. These dudes were running STG.44s and Martini-Henry rifles, I'm sure they'd be perfectly happy with a self-loading rifle only about the same age as their parents.

@TheOriginalFaxon 10 ай бұрын

@@AJadedLizard and about the same age as many of the AKs they were also using, that takes the same ammo.

@edmoore1661 10 ай бұрын

I have 2 Rasheeds and they are very accurate out to 500 yards. More than my various SKS's. I think the action works better and both are very soft shooters. Every once in awhile you will get some gas in your face however from the DI. Also, spare parts are very rare so I only shoot them once or twice a year. Good solid carbines.

@shackslocatedinafghanistan6401 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely loving the Ljungman pattern rifles reviews. I wanted one so bad since the last proper review was 10 or so years ago. Hopefully you can review the AG42 proper next

@ButteredToast81 10 ай бұрын

Those sample rifles sold with the tooling show up on the market every so often. They can be identified by a Jeem property mark under the safety lever.

@starsjosephfrost 10 ай бұрын

looks like a gewehr 43 mixed with a SVT-40 and somehow… a M1 carbine..

@comradeurod9805 10 ай бұрын

The Ag m/42 does have that WW2 semiautomatic rifle look nailed down

@joshwagner4368 10 ай бұрын

I was not surprised that the SKS got mentioned. I was thinking it looked like the unwanted child of an SKS and an M1 carbine.

@psychopathmedia 10 ай бұрын

I'm fine with this

@ryanlang1548 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, I can see what you're seeing.

@BlackCat-tc2tv 10 ай бұрын

Yea those upper hand guard ports always say m1/m14 to my eyes

@rickymherbert2899 10 ай бұрын

I wonder which has the bigger capacity, Paul Harrell's jacket pockets or, Ian's under the table drawer? Certainly Ians' has more interesting contents.

@AJadedLizard 10 ай бұрын

I'll never forget the time he just pulled a China Lake out to flex in a completely separate video.

@anteshell 10 ай бұрын

3:15 The fonts are not the same. Similar, but not the same. The similarity comes purely from the fact that that kind of font is probably the most efficient to use when stamping. It is clear enough to make even a bad stamp discernible and the tool can be made sturdy enough to to make it long lasting. Not the same font. Just a working engineering solution producing similar letters.

@TheFanatical1 10 ай бұрын

Rasheed month! Always nice to see oddball M-E carbines from immediately after WW2.

@mrb692 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if 20-30 years later counts as “just after”, but it’s cool all the same!

@TheFanatical1 10 ай бұрын

@@mrb692 You are right, although I was referring to the heritage of the rifle from Egypt

@lordDenis16 10 ай бұрын

As to why? Probably the tooling was cheap 🤷‍♂️ there is a polish proverb that losely translates "if you don't know the reason, it's probably money"

@RedXlV 10 ай бұрын

Even with the tooling being cheap, it's likely that putting them into production was still more expensive than importing AKMs. I'd say the prestige of them being domestically built was a major factor.

@timbaskett6299 10 ай бұрын

The Rasheed is a "scaled down" AG42B originally chambered in 6.5x55mm, so I'm going to take another step, and say I would like to see a Rasheed pattern rifle in 6.5mm Grendel!! Oh, and yes I would like an SKS in 6.5mm Grendel. 😄

@Ac.MillitaryPrepper 10 ай бұрын

It's one of the few gun companies in Africa from late 1979 and they primarily first worked with bolt actions

@Coltbreath 10 ай бұрын

Would love to see these come to the surplus market! The Iraqi provenance would be a good selling point!

@user-dh6gt5jj3i 10 ай бұрын

Salute from iraq🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

@ianj8505 10 ай бұрын

Do Iraqis love guns just as much as Americans?

@user-dh6gt5jj3i 10 ай бұрын

@@ianj8505 Not just love but a matter of prestige.

@mattliebenau9083 10 ай бұрын

What wood was used for the stocks? Is there a local Egyptian or Iraqi species that’s suitable or did they import something?

@causewaykayak 10 ай бұрын

Thats a really good question. There must be some beautiful timber in the middle east. Unusual figuring is always nice to see. I think off top of head General Kassem might be a leaders name for that period. No time here to fact check myself on this one. He was a coup leader.

@Neverlietoapie 10 ай бұрын

I have a Rasheed myself and it's definitely Beech. The Baghdad looks pretty characteristic of Turkish Walnut although I can't say for certain.

@mikeblair2594 10 ай бұрын

The Bagdad looks like its walnut. Its got a figure and grain structure that looks like walnut. Plus, "Turkish walnut" is endemic through out the region. Though I don't know if its planted or just grows native, I "think" its native.

@Chaosrain112 10 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, what are the two different species of wood between the two rifles?

@JJW3 10 ай бұрын

From what I could see in the video, the Rasheed appears to be Beech and the Baghdad looks to be some type of Walnut.

@mixererunio1757 10 ай бұрын

How can you tell. They could have used some kind of varnish

@Neverlietoapie 10 ай бұрын

The grain patterns. I have a Rasheed myself and it's definitely Beech. The Baghdad looks pretty characteristic of Turkish Walnut although I can't say for certain. @@mixererunio1757

@TheOriginalFaxon 10 ай бұрын

@@mixererunio1757 There is a lot of info out there on the types of wood commonly used in different regions for different things. You gotta account for things like what native species are common in the region, or if none are, what is the most popular import. Also as noted, grain patterns on different species are usually pretty unique. You can spot White Oak from a mile away for instance if you've ever handled it, there are lots of different species of white oak but they all have similarities that are universal. I've got 3 different species of white oak firewood in my back yard and I can tell them all apart by the grain alone, even with them all being in the same species family. Dissimilar species are easier to tell apart than that. Their bark also all produces unique flavor profiles when I burn it in my smoker which is really cool as well.

@therideneverends1697 10 ай бұрын

@@JJW3 Thats my take on the Rasheed, definitely fits the boxes to be beech to me

@paullanger582 10 ай бұрын

We found alot of these in baghdad

@327Federal 10 ай бұрын

PLEASE REVIEW 327 FEDERAL MAGNUM !!S&W Model 632 comes to mind compared to the Ruger SP101 or Ruger LCR !!

@sharonrigs7999 10 ай бұрын

The machining was rougher than late war P38s

@limpetarch98k 10 ай бұрын

Cool video as usual, although it would have been fitting to bring Miles V from The Silah report. Which makes me wonder, what happened to him? Last time I heard about him, it was 2 years ago, just barely after the US troops withdrew from Afghanistan.

@RAMMSTEIN4HIMMER 10 ай бұрын

I forgot about Miles, but he was a really interesting guy. I loved his content. I'm curious as to where he ended up?

@alimanski7941 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if Egypt leveraged the '73 war to sell these to Iraq (in what they viewed as an Egyptian victory) while recuperating some of the war expenses.

@ahmadmorsy1561 10 ай бұрын

That's deep mate, great point.

@tombogan03884 10 ай бұрын

Pre Sadaam ? I'll bet they wanted the SKS. but had no relations with the Soviets, so went for the next best thing. Just my guess.

@AtheistOrphan 10 ай бұрын

I think you may be correct there. Ian states this was made between 1974 - 1978, Saddam H came to power in 1979.

@grantmo821 10 ай бұрын

In the 70's, if you wanted SKS rifles, you went to China. The Soviets stopped producing the SKS in '55, & sold their tooling & a ton of parts to China. The Chinese cranked out more SKS rifles than anyone, & they wound up all over the globe. SE Asia, Africa, Cuba, the Middle East, Afghanistan & Pakistan all wound up with plenty, either direct from China, bought or traded from allies, or captured from defeated enemies. I'm thinking the Baghdad was more a "Made At Home" pride thing, & was likely supplanted by the AK design for tactical reasons. By the mid-70's, a fixed mag, 10-shot semi-auto was much more in the "Militia" category than front-line military armament, & you could buy, trade, or steal AK's from almost everywhere.

@hobbstactv2571 10 ай бұрын

I actually got my hands on one of these during my second deployment to Iraq in 07-08. Unfortunately it was missing the magazine so I didn't get to shoot it. As an aside, the rules prohibiting service members from bringing home guns as war trophies is big stupid.

@displacedyankee7819 10 ай бұрын

I couldnt even bring home the slant cut muzzle brake from an AK. What kind of damage can that little piece of metal do??? Yup, stuuupid.

@jackalamir593 10 ай бұрын

There was cooperation between Iraq and Egypt for military production in the seventies, as Iraq began producing the Baghdad rifle.But the production project stopped after a committee of military experts did not approve the feasibility of producing this type of rifles for the army. For The information Saddam Hussein was vice president at that time

@DaveSCameron 10 ай бұрын

Banging channel Sir 🇬🇧🙏

@Neverlietoapie 10 ай бұрын

Well... there goes my chances of ever finding one. Thanks Ian. lol

@forkthepork 10 ай бұрын

Looks Elbonian in nature.

@TheRogueWolf 10 ай бұрын

Egypt: "Okay, you can copy my homework, but change it up so it looks different." Iraq: "No, I don't think I will."

@cynthiakoehne7004 10 ай бұрын

I just went back and looked at you shooting the DENAL NTW-20 please do a return to that cannon!

@wikikomoto 10 ай бұрын

so i commented this on the rasheed video as well. the numbers you're used to seeing on a day to day in the west are "western Arabic numerals" where as the numbers used on this rifle are an older, Indian style. typically known as "eastern Arabic numerals" both styles of numbers evolved from the same source. which is a base 10 number system created by the brahmi in india way back in the third century

@erikbowers0776 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, I was confused because I thought we (the west) used Arabic numerals and those were very different. I'd never heard of Eastern Arabic numerals, yay learning!

@rsoul7282 10 ай бұрын

From the finish on this thing, I would say the tooling that was given to Iraq consisted of a bastard file and an axe.

@chrissinclair8705 10 ай бұрын

My dad in 1978 bought a brand new Ford Pinto station wagon. This rifle is in much better shape...and less prone to catastrophic failures. My mom was pissed...

@tiagobelo4965 10 ай бұрын

so I take it the ford blew up on the way home from the delership?

@AxeGaijin 10 ай бұрын

I was born in 1972, this rifle is in much better shape, and less prone to catastrophic failures. 🤣

@CheshireTomcat68 10 ай бұрын

@@AxeGaijin 1968, same.

@causewaykayak 10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@lightweight1974 10 ай бұрын

I had a '73 Pinto with the exploding gas tank. Ford's fix was to put 1/4" thick plastic shield around the tank to prevent punctures in a collision. The car never self incinerated, but I did give it ample opportunity. I beat the living snot out of that thing. It still ran OK when I sold it.

@rebelscumspeedshop 10 ай бұрын

It's interesting with serial numbers. It seems that there was a time when many things had serial numbers that started with 10( not ten lol). I wonder if many firearms manufacturers followed this suit..?

@TheSatanel 10 ай бұрын

Looks like a beefed up SKS.

@rogerharacz5790 2 ай бұрын

Thank You Sir 😁🙏

@Guillotines_For_Globalists 10 ай бұрын

That flat screwdriver from the tool kit in the stock also has the firing pin protrusion gauge on it just like the Mosin Nagant screwdriver.

@lordbyron8927 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if Iraq was ever concerned about suffering from sanctions at that time, and that's why they bought the tooling? It's always easier to get materials rather than pre-built weapons

@mikeblair2594 10 ай бұрын

They weren't hit with sanctions till after 1991.

@WinterSparrow 8 ай бұрын

In Iraq my country we used to made a lot of copies of another guns. We also made a lot of sniper rifle like 14.5 mm and also 20 mm We make them from trash Like take broken anti-material guns or large machine guns And take those barrels and and attach DIY trigger to them. We used these DIY guns in war against isis

@riccardo.pratesi 10 ай бұрын

The finishes are horrible WWII last-ditch stuff, otherwise as always, an interesting presentation of a weapon that is certainly little known to many!

@Legolas15989 10 ай бұрын

Like these oddball surplus rifles, are we gonna get a Hakim rifle review, the last one was 11 years ago

@loupiscanis9449 10 ай бұрын

Thank you , Ian . 🐺 Loupis Canis .

@daviddudley1655 10 ай бұрын

As always tanks to the firearms owners

@bungmanagforty7959 10 ай бұрын

How are you supposed to use that cleaning kit without a cleaning rod?

@alexgrenlie862 10 ай бұрын

Did the svt come before or after this? That's what this looks like to me

@safetyharborfirearms 10 ай бұрын

I just learned something....Thanks

@TheCatBilbo 10 ай бұрын

Question: what was the first rifle produced that came with an integral cleaning kit, stored in the butt?

@user-iw4vu7oo4j 10 ай бұрын

I thought the numerals we use are called "Arabic numerals", usually in contradistinction to "Roman numerals".

@TheFanatical1 10 ай бұрын

They are, but the modern numerals are (as glyphs) modified arabic numerals from at least 800 years ago. Modern arabic numerals are of course very similar, but not quite the same glyphs as modern numbers.

@BitspokesV2 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for teaching me the word contradistinction

@BitspokesV2 10 ай бұрын

Also there is a west/east Arabic numeral split. These are Eastern Arabic numerals, the west uses… western Arabic numerals. I was similarly confused

@jensenwilliam5434 10 ай бұрын

Thank s

@KMY17PHX 5 ай бұрын

the numbers you mentioned are eastern arabic, the numbers used globaly are called arabic numerals.

@threesons270 10 ай бұрын

The number zero and the actual wheel were both invented in Iraq

@asmo1313 10 ай бұрын

its probably a dumb question but I fail to understand how that bajonet is not a hazard to the user when it is not ready to stick things, so my question: What am I overlooking here?

@BlackCat-tc2tv 10 ай бұрын

Only the side of the blade that is inside next to the barrel when folded is sharpened, the other side is flat and not sharp

@bobbylee2853 10 ай бұрын

The sharp side is folded into the stock. About as dangerous as a folded pocket knife.

@an2939 10 ай бұрын

the blade isnt sharpened i think?

@JJW3 10 ай бұрын

If it is like all the SKS blade bayonets I've seen, it isn't actually "sharp".

@therideneverends1697 10 ай бұрын

If its like an SKS beyonet then its not actually "sharp" the point is used to pierce and the rest of the "blade" fans open the wound, But if you took it off the rifle and had it as is its about as sharp as a butter knife

@whothefoxcares 10 ай бұрын

By the time we got a Woodstock, we were rifles. We were bored.

@Haimrik74 10 ай бұрын

Any chance of a Baghdad vs Rasheed shooting video?

@ForgottenWeapons 10 ай бұрын

I didn't take the Baghdad out to the range, but I did run an Egyptian-themed 2-Gun match which will post on Saturday...

@Haimrik74 10 ай бұрын

Awesome! wont miss it.@@ForgottenWeapons

@irishpsalteri 10 ай бұрын

Interesting to see something from the UAR. It didn't last that long.

@covjek1981 10 ай бұрын

Is it just me, or does the bayonet look like it came from a Yugo SKS?

@jkausti6737 10 ай бұрын

That bayonet though.... is it sharp on both sides?

@ForgottenWeapons 10 ай бұрын

No.

@3domiak99 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the nice video, I've got two Rasheeds (Nos 1868 & 8102) in perfect condition, very nice and smooth shooting guns, but I've got also STAR Z-84. Could you please create one video about Z-84? This is probably one of the most mysterious submachine guns in the history. Prepared for the Spanish navy' special forces. There was theoretically only 1000 pcs produced and, what is interesting, the effective firing range of this submachine gun, even at shallow depths, is no more than 5 meters, so it seems that they can be effectively used underwater. The video about STAR Z-84 would be much appreciated (I'm ready to share mine :) ) and if there is anyone that can sell me some spare magazines (I've got only one), then it would be much appreciated!!!

@TMFShooting 10 ай бұрын

Great Stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@mohammadalazawi2544 10 ай бұрын

In the video thumbnail, you used the right Iraqi flag used during the rifle production years, impressive

@Daniel-Weaver 10 ай бұрын

Did Baghdad Bob have one?

@thundercatt5265 10 ай бұрын

... that's kinda cool...i like it

@Mrgunsngear 10 ай бұрын

🍿

@artelislt 10 ай бұрын

Can you make some videos about Lithuanian guns?

@user-dc1dr9kr8x 10 ай бұрын

I second this.....please

@dun0790 10 ай бұрын

Wasn't there an Iraqi M4 at some point? Or am I remembering it wrong

@yt.602 10 ай бұрын

Yet another unicorn documented in detail.

@Thierry_La_Fraude 10 ай бұрын

*Saddam Theme starts playing*

@xxxlonewolf49 10 ай бұрын

Cool

@jameslawrie3807 10 ай бұрын

I want one

@Ac.MillitaryPrepper 10 ай бұрын

Please do a video of the some know it as jackson armorment group africa but it's name is not that that is a slang name I'm looking for a lore and shoot video of the africa variant tech9

@williamarmstrong1050 10 ай бұрын

looks bit better quality than the rasheed

@JesusvonNazaret 10 ай бұрын

Making your own guns and ammo locally is also relevant if you want to be independent.

@Chaotic-Chilled 10 ай бұрын

ran out of orignals so now hes doing reskins. when do we get loot crate unboxings? for the forgotten skins?

@vhjmvn 10 ай бұрын

The Iraki and UAR fonts are not the same, nor is the size of the Latin fonts. Sloppy, Ian!

@user-yn4bs2ut3h 10 ай бұрын

🇮🇶🇺🇲❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🇮🇶🇺🇲

@maximilianrpm2927 10 ай бұрын

Gun Jesus materializes guns out of thin air

@psychopathmedia 10 ай бұрын

Imagine if TheyTube were as good at not-holding-me-to-a-different-standard-from-everyone-else as Baghdad was at copying the Rasheed

@Freejoeyb 10 ай бұрын

I thought it was called a hakim

@kutter_ttl6786 10 ай бұрын

Hakim fires the 7.92×57mm Mauser round, while the Rasheed is a scaled down carbine derived from it that shoots 7.62x39mm.

@kingkay7058 10 ай бұрын

I think I need glasses

@AJadedLizard 10 ай бұрын

Let's be real, even if a warehouse of these is found in pristine condition with all the paperwork proving nobody ever did anything bad with them ever these rifles will *never* be allowed into the US. We can't even bring rifles back from allied states *that were made here.*