Baldur's Gate 3: Cheesing To Beating the Tutorial Boss Fight On Tactician Mode (Patched Method)

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Proxy Gate Tactician

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The tutorial fight in Baldur's Gate 3 is supposed to be unbeatable, but after over 10 hours straight of attempts I did it on the hardest difficulty. Here's how I did it, and why I recommend you DO NOT do this yourself.
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:30 Starting Explanations & Prep
1:08 Starting the Fight for Real
1:58 Mage Hand Rant
2:22 Back to the Fight
3:55 Show me the Loot plz
4:17 Outro
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@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
As of TODAY Larian Patched out the Infinite Mage Hands! Larian stop using my channel for ur bug finding QA job hahaha
@mrmozao
@mrmozao 10 ай бұрын
Larian Studios, you should HIRE THIS GUY! He's definitely has a mindset of a true QA means in the scale of this game hahahahah
@erwins_arm
@erwins_arm 9 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Mattis and sylvie still bugged since EA -_-
@darsynia
@darsynia 9 ай бұрын
Arghhhh I spent like 2 hours about a month ago trying to play 4 origin characters and I cannot get it to work! Is it indeed patched out, the ability to open more than one game version on the same computer? Thank you for all your hard work with these videos btw, you're one of the most interesting, concise, and informative BG3 accounts on here! Oops I wasn't trying to butter you up to get an answer, btw, bad timing :D
@AskZch
@AskZch 9 ай бұрын
I still don''t get why you did this unless it was a troll, I beat first fight incliuding Zhalk, Cambions and Mind Flayer 4 times because I rerolled 5 timesl, didn't kill them only the first time just n abbed the sword. I beat them even with bard doing like 2 dmg per shot and yes on Tactician, you were doing something VERY VERY WRONG EDIT : I am by no means some kind of tactical genius
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra 7 ай бұрын
Time to beat it again, mate ☝️😌
@Spyko-
@Spyko- 10 ай бұрын
now that's the kind of insanity I'm here for
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I thought when I found that mage hand trick I'd have that boss dead in like 30 mins lol didn't expect a whole day to be lost to it
@bendelaughter
@bendelaughter 10 ай бұрын
Same
@ninjastyle3846
@ninjastyle3846 3 ай бұрын
Hands hands and wait for it .. waiting for it.... loading... and more hands
@octosalias5785
@octosalias5785 10 ай бұрын
It was actually comical the way the demon almost immediately killed the Mind Flayer and started one shotting my entire party
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
With that sword he hits for like 20+ dmg a turn easily enough to 1 shot u all lol
@lionguardfan2019
@lionguardfan2019 9 ай бұрын
Am curious if you could technically just pickpocket most stuff off of him, might need a way to disarm to snatch his sword? hmm. I can't take a looksie myself, main computer that playeed this gone as hard drive died. Thankfully! Game wasnt installed directly on the main drive, as for my save files eh no biggy as always playing again to see what I missed out on. Plus, lots more to explore - even the origin characters, the different races and classes... @@ProxyGateTactician
@danemp4727
@danemp4727 10 ай бұрын
can i just say how happy it made me seeing the Dos2 cast in this? great choice of characters
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Right! They also didn’t look half bad right? I had fun making them lol I kind of want to continue that play through all the way now
@TheBleetbleet
@TheBleetbleet 10 ай бұрын
Except Fane 😔
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBleetbleet We got withers at camp he's like bootleg fane
@TheBleetbleet
@TheBleetbleet 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician Owlbear for beast, guess ur all set 😂
@jan6470
@jan6470 10 ай бұрын
@@TheBleetbleet There is a Fane easter egg in the game though :)
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
This boss was insanely annoying to do. I plan to work on another tip style video for the next one though! I have a lot more written from my play through so far. Hope everyone is enjoying the full release of Baldur's Gate 3
@iamjeramy
@iamjeramy 10 ай бұрын
U can use the loot boxes to block a doorway and the adds won't be able to get through. should be able to set up a kill that way as well
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@iamjeramy true but I wanted the full XP from all the mobs
@sorrowinchrist3387
@sorrowinchrist3387 10 ай бұрын
You must be doing it wrong if it took you that long...
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@sorrowinchrist3387 it’s not intended to be possible to beat the boss honestly
@sorrowinchrist3387
@sorrowinchrist3387 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician Ahhh you are wrong he can be finished off on tactician there is a strategy you need to do. :)
@Melchy323
@Melchy323 10 ай бұрын
I was so thrilled when the fight seemed unwinnable on tactician. Before I HAD to kill them all but now I can just move on guilt free cause its impossible without cheezing
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. It is 100% not worth attempting it
@Rosa_Neco
@Rosa_Neco 10 ай бұрын
wait what.... I beat him just fine... with 3 people lmfao on tactician?
@SkullMinePro
@SkullMinePro 10 ай бұрын
@@Rosa_Neco yeah i'm ngl i kinda just cleaved through him, what comes after him though was hell
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@SkullMinePro The original comment is talking about the dudes that come after yeah. Those dudes in Early Access version were pretty easy to kill and get XP for all of them very consistently.
@Rosa_Neco
@Rosa_Neco 10 ай бұрын
Ohhh gotcha sorry i was really confused hahahha thanks for clearing it up for me :) Great vid @@ProxyGateTactician
@gyletre675
@gyletre675 10 ай бұрын
I killed the commander demon all the time in EA, but since they buffed him, I've just commanded him to drop his weapon and then left
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I just kill him and leave now. Never gonna both with the cambions ever again
@Are109
@Are109 10 ай бұрын
If you're gonna post more BG3 challenges I'm all for it, fantastic job you mad man! Hope to see more like this soon!
@brerrabbit9307
@brerrabbit9307 10 ай бұрын
Won this as a duo with a more comfortable strategy, warlock + druid. Using hex dexterity(warlock) allows you to land faerie fire(Druid) way more reliably for advantage on all attacks, making the fight a much easier dps race, and druid has access to shillelagh so i get to ignore their resistances. Shadowheart was used to just bless party (druid/warlock/lae'zel) after command dropping the commander and having Lae'zel Pick up the sword. "Us" went and cleared all the mobs with Shadowheart, whilst everyone else focused on dps on the commander. Having advantage on all attacks, with bless and a fire buff from a candle allows you to absolutely melt the commander before the Cambions arrive - 70% chance to hit on average for anyone. When Cambions show up, I send in the magehand who juggles the 4 nautiloid tanks + a caustic bulb/void bomb to the 2 Cambions. Shadowheart Blowing that up lowered their hp to around 70 each, and from there you focus the Cambion that faerie fire lands on (25% for neither, 50% for one, 25% for both - before hex debuff). First cambion normally dies within 2 turns of entering melee range, but it actually is the 2nd cambion that is hardest to deal with as he knocks a party member out every one or two turns, so another member has to waste a turn healing them back up. We ended up finishing the fight with 5 turns to spare, allowing us to loot up the entire area before we exited to start act 1 :D
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Damn nice job dude that is impressive!! A much more legit way of doing it even. It feels like it needs a druid then right? This game is so damn cool good on you guys for figuring that one out.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Also curious if it's possible to do it as a solo character at all. I tried it for like 5 hours before I switched to this group method and it became much more viable
@wjmjr
@wjmjr 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician Did it solo in a reasonable amount of time with bard. Faerie fire seems to be the key ingredient, along with a healthy dose of save scumming. Also you can get some extra control on when the mind flayer goes aggro. If you leave one of the imps alive, he will not turn on you when the commander dies.
@brerrabbit9307
@brerrabbit9307 10 ай бұрын
@@wjmjr I think Faerie fire is the best way of doing it, but if you aren't using it you have to save scum each individual attack to clear it solo, otherwise you just don't have enough dps
@averagegamer4346
@averagegamer4346 10 ай бұрын
Hex give disadvantage to ability checks not saving throws. It doesn't make your spell easier to land it just gives disadvantage to enemy landing their skills on you.
@TheGlobalProfessional
@TheGlobalProfessional 10 ай бұрын
I use to play Ultima 7 back in the early 90’s and I would experiment by swapping out different floppy disks to give me insane amounts of explosives in my inventory and using them to kill unkillable enemies. It’s good know that 30 years later this sort of madness is still happening. Hahaha love it!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Haha that is awesome! I love finding the power in stuff like that. That would be tough to figure out that it works like that by swapping them on the fly
@wb8156
@wb8156 10 ай бұрын
Doing the lords work Proxy. Top tier BG3 content right here, sincerely. love this stuff
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! It was a fun challenge
@Tabledar
@Tabledar 10 ай бұрын
You can shove the commander to position him underneath the caustic bulbs to drop them on him for a fair chunk of damage, and smash some acid near him to drop his AC by 2.
@shukenten4191
@shukenten4191 10 ай бұрын
Love the BG 3 cheese videos :) Hope there are many more to come. Hi from the UK
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I love cheesing the game haha so i'll do more for sure
@noahparsons454
@noahparsons454 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate you taking this daunting task upon yourself, what fight are you considering for your next venture?
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to do some sort of challenge runs in the future. I'll see how the rest of the game is though. I have 2 groups I play with in act 2 right now in addition to trying videos so that might be a while lol I'll focus on another guide style I think for now
@noahparsons454
@noahparsons454 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician Awesome, can’t wait to see what other shenanigans you’ll get up too!
@Beechbeach
@Beechbeach 10 ай бұрын
Maybe a pascifist run
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@Beechbeach not sure if it’s possible yet lol that would be tough I’m sure
@stateatol9547
@stateatol9547 10 ай бұрын
Bro this is crazy hahaha you really destroyed this encounter,love it.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! I didn't expect it to take so long to be honest and after dying with the last mob on 10% HP I felt like I can't give up
@Acornkitchen
@Acornkitchen 10 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who makes quality videos!
@hallacson8535
@hallacson8535 10 ай бұрын
Lol. You are actually one of the three channels I watch BG3 from. Keep the good work please
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@DSlyde
@DSlyde 10 ай бұрын
Welp ive watched all your videos now and there's not a weak one in there. Definitely earned a sub and a sneaky comment for the algorithm
@BearsDenOneinVain
@BearsDenOneinVain 10 ай бұрын
Awesome shit bro! Good job! You're a beast!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! It was honestly so fun and frustrating at the same time
@Vatolicious
@Vatolicious 10 ай бұрын
Now this is some wild stuff worth views! Absolute madman.
@arielfetters5662
@arielfetters5662 10 ай бұрын
Yeesh. Dude went full "Dormamu, I'm here to bargain' on them. Props.
@bertschmert
@bertschmert 10 ай бұрын
Simpsons edit was 12/10 cherry on top of this amazing video and achievement. Cheers mate keep it coming
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Haha thanks! Glad to know it was worth it. It took me ages to learn how to do that with it looking okay
@rhodan74
@rhodan74 10 ай бұрын
Block the entrance (on the side of the fountain) and the Cambions won't use fly to enter the arena. Remove weapon with drop, use magehand + MC to throw weapons from high ground (advantage). Have Laezel use the greatsword and throw wpns back. If your MC has any casting use Acid to lower AC. Took me 3 tries.
@ivanangeli
@ivanangeli 10 ай бұрын
I have to save this post somewhere, if I fail on my own :)
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Yea you can put 2 chests in that hallway and it works too. I wanted to get the full XP and gold reward though
@Amyante
@Amyante 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician So what if you put the chests in the hallway to block them, along with a number of explosive barrels so you can boom them from a safe distance when they appear?
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
@@Amyante You need the mindflayer's damage. Those explosives can only do about 40 damage because the Cambions have a 50% damage reduction buff. The mindflayer adds around 20 damage per turn so without his help you can't kill all of them in time. He won't hit the cambions unless the cambions get in melee range of him.
@xaviiiiv
@xaviiiiv 10 ай бұрын
Man im falling in love with you… I mean your channel!
@Novariko
@Novariko 10 ай бұрын
Another great video, also like the dos2 cameos 😂
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Lol yeah I think you’re the first to notice surprisingly
@FitMachina
@FitMachina 10 ай бұрын
Big thumbs up for SC2 music. Classy
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Protoss main here who admits terran has the best music and can't get over it
@only2comment98
@only2comment98 6 ай бұрын
God that's hardcore dedication, my man. Not enough hours in the day for a humble fella like me.. I killed the little guys on Tactician and kept it pushin'
@MRthe50caldude1
@MRthe50caldude1 10 ай бұрын
You are mentaly insane.😂 Great video, the editing is on point👌 What is your favorite build at the moment?
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I’m running 2 groups in act 2 at the moment. My Sorc is twins Pell buffing haste on my paladin and fighter and it’s super fun
@CAILZZZ
@CAILZZZ 10 ай бұрын
Of course doing a 4 characters + shadow/laezel party is the way to go. I've beaten this fight so many time in so many way during early access but with the full release and tactician mode its another story. Manage to down the commander + mind Flayer with only one char but that about it. Enjoyed the sc2 song in the background and naming the char after DOs2 haha! You know your classics that for sure. 😂👍
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Sadly you can't take 6 :( It caps it at 5 characters. Which is really odd because this is the only fight in the game you can have 5 in your party without mods. Even if you make 4 they only let u recruit 1 of the others.
@boofgedder9809
@boofgedder9809 5 ай бұрын
Mage hand was clutch in saving the mushroom picker
@dumberdummer
@dumberdummer 10 ай бұрын
Best BG3 content I've seen amidst this current oversaturation of it. Subbed, good stuff!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@mikew9568
@mikew9568 10 ай бұрын
😂thanks for posting this! Looking forward to more videos
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
For sure! Working on another right now
@MichaelAndersen_DK
@MichaelAndersen_DK 10 ай бұрын
You are completely and utterly nuts and I freaking love every second of it. Props!
@peepeepoopoo7723
@peepeepoopoo7723 10 ай бұрын
I noticed the timer today, thought i was going crazy for never noticing before
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Possibly because it bugs out and u can’t see it sometimes
@TheSealDribble
@TheSealDribble 10 ай бұрын
All your vids have been class bro, Name of the Wind-levels of debut! 🔥👏
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@murilo.delgado
@murilo.delgado 9 ай бұрын
Love the videos. I can't get this out of my head: is the background song the Terran Theme from StarCraft? I'm getting the vibes. Cheers!
@williammartin7138
@williammartin7138 10 ай бұрын
Good job man, I used to always kill him and his goons in EA. I tried twice in full release and tactician and moved on right away lmao. Too much trouble.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
They made it SOO much harder lol before u could just stealth over and over with no turn limit
@nic6863
@nic6863 10 ай бұрын
"Ah a guide to beat the guy and get his sword, I've done that. But that was Balanced maybe Tactician is harder let's see." Me when I was naive and didn't know what the hell I was in for lmao
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Lol I don’t recommend anyone to do this yourself it was hell
@HappyAngrySquirrel
@HappyAngrySquirrel 10 ай бұрын
Nice content 🎉. Keep it up bro 😁👍
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@jasonthesnow
@jasonthesnow 3 ай бұрын
That’s gotta be the most insane crash report Larian ever received. “…There’s how many mage hands???”
@davidlee4068
@davidlee4068 4 күн бұрын
The Simpsons reference was brilliant. Bravo!
@krelekari
@krelekari 10 ай бұрын
Impressive work
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@anonmelclean
@anonmelclean 10 ай бұрын
I feel so much better about not being able to kill him on tactician on my first playthrough now knowing how many tries it took you to do it! I consider myself to be pretty good at DND so I'm running first playthrough on tactician but for my planned multiclass I needed to start my main as a bard and it was just super rough 😢
@farrel_ra
@farrel_ra 9 ай бұрын
Cool, mind to share tips & trick? Newbie here 🖐🏼
@rileymcphee9429
@rileymcphee9429 10 ай бұрын
Getting the boss to drop the blade and Lae'zel immediately loot it does seem doable. Thanks for the info!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
No problem! It’s probably the best way to do it without losing your sanity here
@damobeck1
@damobeck1 10 ай бұрын
Same Doubt I’ll ever try to kill him again, I swear they buffed him in the full release, but I’ll definitely steal the sword.
@casono
@casono 10 ай бұрын
thank you for suffering so I didnt have to. That's been bugging me for a while now.
@_TokiFanclub_
@_TokiFanclub_ 5 ай бұрын
What I did for mine is that I picked up all the chests I could find on the ship, and blocked the doorway to the "arena" so that the 2 Demons couldn't get through. Worked like a charm!
@trolltollz1317
@trolltollz1317 10 ай бұрын
Well played sir
@briankelly1240
@briankelly1240 10 ай бұрын
Great quality video, you need more views!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@C-Handle
@C-Handle 9 ай бұрын
Gather the purple objects/status things and stack them around the boss. After it reaches 8th round, use a flame attack to blow all of the purple bombs you placed around him up.
@fred-lol
@fred-lol 10 ай бұрын
cool stuff! keep it up!
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@HuggyBuddyOwO
@HuggyBuddyOwO 10 ай бұрын
Funfact: the 23% of "players" that has not passed the tutorial are people that either has yet to instal it/starting the game. Since achievement count every "owner" of the game, not every "player" of the game.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Ahh is that how it works! Okay makes more sense
@HuggyBuddyOwO
@HuggyBuddyOwO 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician happy to help!. It's quite common sadly, due to people buying games that looks cool but dont have the time, nowadays.
@d2cmp
@d2cmp 10 ай бұрын
absolute madman
@hexipo2352
@hexipo2352 10 ай бұрын
Great vid, The Bart Simpson edit had me lol
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@Labergemusic
@Labergemusic 10 ай бұрын
Oh man you really did a good one here
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@iKennectz
@iKennectz 10 ай бұрын
I used all of the void grenades/shoving/dropped containers to keep the mind flayer and the devil outside of each-other’s melee range, he’s hard targeted on the mind flayer so he does some stupid stuff when he can’t path to him providing you don’t set off his opportunity attacks
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Yeah if you get can some shoved in him the artacks of opportunity can be huge, but it’s hard to shove him with low str chars
@iKennectz
@iKennectz 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTacticianI just started a new playthrough - it's much more manageable multiplayer. with one more player or booting a second instance of the game and creating a character in the lobby and closing the game allows you to have a 4 person team including Shadowheart/Laezel or 4 custom characters.
@ScritRighter
@ScritRighter 9 ай бұрын
I actually managed to do this today in Tactician without cheese or extra playable characters. I chose a War Cleric for my starting class, boosted WIS up as high as possible, dex +2 for optimal AC. Got Us, Lae'Zelle, and Shadowheart. Prepared Command spell for all of them. Fun fact, you actually don't want the commander devil to die. Instead, you want his HP widdled down to about 50-30 by the time the other two Cambions come in. I had him drop his blade and gave it to Lae'Zelle like usual. My War Cleric picked up all the void bulbs and caustics in the area. You can throw twice with the War Cleric bonus action. Kept targeting the bulbs to suck the mind flayer and cambions together. If the cambions went after us, it gave the mind flayer an AoO. When they are grouped up, you can have Lae'Zelle use Cleave for big damage on all of them. You can also buff the mind flayer with Protection from Evil and Good as well as Shield of Faith between your two clerics. Spam sacred flame because it ignores their resistances and has about the same chance to hit (100% if they are stunned) The Mind Flayer will do a big stunning AoE on all three of them which can be huge. Focus down the other two cambions, try to make them drop their weapons too. Around 2-4 turns left, explode the barrels in the group, killing the mind flayer and commander, but likely leaving one or two of the cambions alive. From there, it's just a matter of cleaning them up. You can also start the fight with bless active. No need for other buffs since you will break concentration on them anyways, and you won't be attacked by anything dangerous until the other two cambions come in. The goal is to basically keep the Mind Flayer alive and let him do all the damage for you. Lae'zelle will do the most with the everburn blade, but don't overdo it on the commander. Without their weapons, you can go toe to toe with them so long as you've got rounds to do so. Always keep at least one character (shadowheart) near the console spamming at range. Sometimes it can come down to the last round and you gotta bail. If you wanted to, you could technically have one of your companions waiting outside the area spamming the healing tendrils and refreshing your spell slots. Command Grovel works really well. Sometimes you can find a speed potion, and that can be a useful buff, especially if you toss it at more than one person during the last rounds. You can also technically go as a barbarian and use the everburn blade yourself. I've seen it's pretty effective. If you have a friend, one Cleric and a barbarian would work really well. Rage alone makes you tanky as hell especially if they've all dropped their weapons (they only do 3-2 on a hit with their fists while you can do up to 19 and when you cleave that's HUGE damage if you manage to hit everyone) Optimally, you can try and get the mind flayer in a position to stun everyone, void bulb them together, cleave them with Lae'Zelle or a barbarian friend, chip away for one more turn, and then set up the explosives to be triggered by Shadowheart (she always has fire bolt due to elf abilities). If you did a good job and didn't get fucked on the Mind Flayer's damage output and targeting rng, you will either kill all of them in the explosion, or there will be one weaponless loser waiting to be bullied on round 5. If you got lucky enough to find a speed potion in your chest, it can make this process even easier. You can also have your War Cleric throwing potions with their action and bonus action for AoE healing and keeping the Mind Flayer alive. There is also a chance you can trick them with minor illusion, but I have not tried that yet. Plenty of ways you can do this, honestly. Even Warlocks with Eldritch Blast can do a lot of consistent damage with bless active.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 9 ай бұрын
Well done dude. Thanks for the detailed comment. Impressive stuff! How long did it take to figure all this stuff out?
@ScritRighter
@ScritRighter 9 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician It depends on when you'd consider the 'start'. It started with me wanting to know how to beat the commander and grab his sword. Then when I realized that was pretty easy and you could do it consistently I considered that you could wait for the cambions to come in and blow them up. Then it was just a matter of save scumming for testing purposes to see what was more consistent. I did not know you could have infinite mage hands in the fight, though. That would definitely make things easier and safer when you have 30 opportunities to push the cambions into one space for them to be AoE'd. It took me about an hour and a half toget a successful run on tactician, but that was mainly a run where I already kinda knew what to do. Even after I was left wondering if there was an even better method, but for singleplayer I think War Cleric is the best pick if you're not looking to save scum or cheese it too much.
@k2cr
@k2cr 10 ай бұрын
Part of the 23% who didn't beat the boss... I cast sanctuary and ran past everything
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
You’d still get the achievement then. The 23% are players who couldn’t even do what you did
@k2cr
@k2cr 10 ай бұрын
@ProxyGateTactician Ahh I thought that was the achievement for beating the boss, thanks for the response! (good video btw)
@unai49999
@unai49999 7 ай бұрын
This dude has exactly what I wanted. The knowledge without doing this herculean thask
@AlexAnder-dh8qz
@AlexAnder-dh8qz 9 ай бұрын
Got him down to 40HP last run by getting his weapon and letting mindflayer to burst him into ash, with little push from explosive tanks from other rooms you can finish him, it took around 8 turns before I actually get bored and 2 cambions finally get close enough. With explosive preparations I should have retreat and shoot firebolt to finish the job and activate helm at the same turn. Potentially, you can also bring some stuff from other rooms and barricade the door, so cambions can't even fly through, so no backup for commander. Also, you can "command: grovel" or inflict wounds to commander to ensure high damage from your spells or mindflayer attacks, or bring some water over commander and get 3 rounds or x2 cold and lightning damage to him from your spells and cantrips.
@vladm2364
@vladm2364 10 ай бұрын
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
And it eventually paid off! (After 10 hours of insanity)
@EveloGrave
@EveloGrave 10 ай бұрын
Somewhat figured this out on my own with my friends. We kill everything except the Cambions. Once the Mind Flayer falls we level up and just bolt.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s what I do every time now too
@Enzevil
@Enzevil 10 ай бұрын
You absolute madman
@am8776
@am8776 10 ай бұрын
I imagine all those mage hand doing Anime punching him to death like jojo muda muda
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
hahaha too bad they actually did claim quite a few of the killing blows too
@timxiix3864
@timxiix3864 10 ай бұрын
Someone actually did this on tactician the „normal“ way
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Killing all the cambions? Who? I know you can do it killing just the main guy pretty easily
@saphironkindris
@saphironkindris Ай бұрын
I thought killing just the commander was hard enough, nevermind the reinforcement cambions, I thought for sure that couldn't be done. Well played.
@sawtooth6679
@sawtooth6679 9 ай бұрын
holy i LAUGHED at the bart edit
@condorX2
@condorX2 10 ай бұрын
As I grow older, I realize playing on the highest difficulty is not a challenge, but a torture test. 😅
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I guess that makes me a masochist
@ValkynShade
@ValkynShade 10 ай бұрын
i'd rephrase it: it's a test of wits. I'm reading the same comment again and again and it's so true: people are still treating this as a regular video game, when in reality it's a DnD simulator that lets you test out everything. once you think outside the box and stop brute forcing things, it's way more enjoyable as well
@condorX2
@condorX2 10 ай бұрын
@@ValkynShade 👍😁 I forgot who mentioned this. "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." We gamers prove that guy wrong. And I feel like the Time Machine is already exist. We've been using it through saving and loading. This one is the most important break through. Trials and errors.
@timm8998
@timm8998 10 ай бұрын
This game is relatively easy on hardest diff. Compare it to the 2 pathfinder games on unfair this is like child's play. I wish there was a category above tactician.
@condorX2
@condorX2 10 ай бұрын
@@timm8998 I see. What's your current build that make this game easy even on the hardest difficulty?
@Aureolelegends
@Aureolelegends 10 ай бұрын
My partner and I did this as well just to say that we've at least done it, but we didn't want to kill ourselves so we save scummed. And it STILL took 2.5 hours to complete. If anyone else wants the rewards, just do this on Balanced and switch to Explorer once the other 2 Cambion spawn. You want to be in Balanced because otherwise the 2 Cambion won't appear. The EXP rewards are the same anyways, and the gold is randomly given at around 600 - 750. So good luck.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Wow that is funny I didn’t even know they won’t spawn on explorer. You guys for sure did it a smarter way since it took me like 10 hours without save scumming this
@Aureolelegends
@Aureolelegends 10 ай бұрын
@@ProxyGateTactician I know right?! It killed me when I realized they don't spawn on Explorer. 5 turns wasted. Hey you can still boost that you did this legitimately without save scumming! That's persistence! That's still so awesome! Also did not know Mage Hand did damage in this, even if it's 1 damage. Might have to throw the whole D&D 5e knowledge book out the window and properly read up on everything from the start.
@gigantomastiaCuddler
@gigantomastiaCuddler 10 ай бұрын
@@Aureolelegends Bold of you to assume there's enough accurate info out there already to read up on
@ladooshka
@ladooshka 8 ай бұрын
I killed the commander and cambions on tactician by saves cumming and using explosives. Larian indeed made then tougher than in early access.
@Mikeztarp
@Mikeztarp 10 ай бұрын
Mage hand zerg rush sounds like a good idea, but not without creep. xD
@MrNinfofan
@MrNinfofan 9 ай бұрын
That edit is gold bro, I laughed my ass off at the simpsons bit
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 9 ай бұрын
Finally someone mentioned it lol thank you so much
@TheShadowHatter
@TheShadowHatter 10 ай бұрын
The absolute MAD LAD
@kellyyang9022
@kellyyang9022 10 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA I have full faith you'll come up with more unhinged bg3 content down the line. Nice job! Edit: also love the DOS2 main character comebacks :)
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Glad people noticed! Seems like most BG people didn't play the Divinity series
@Ace_M.
@Ace_M. 10 ай бұрын
what a beast
@litefeather
@litefeather 10 ай бұрын
Mage hand has been really useful for me and I lone wolf unmoded run either opening doors while letting me stay far away moving stuff, throwing things at enemies it does suck that you could only use it once does short rest and it would be useless if I wasn't doing lone Wolf run
@InvictaUmi
@InvictaUmi 10 ай бұрын
This is a W video if I'd ever seen one
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@andybodle7560
@andybodle7560 7 ай бұрын
Use Shadowheart's other spell slot to cast Protection from Evil and Good on the Mind Flayer. Zhalk can barely lay a finger on him
@vladimirmaslivetc5244
@vladimirmaslivetc5244 6 ай бұрын
Haha thanks for suffering through this idea for us!
@ironcladcross
@ironcladcross 10 ай бұрын
We just had our druid cast mighty leap on the Paladin, who then proceeded to jump around the room stuffing the explosive barrels into a backpack, burnt the boss to around half HP then throw the backpack at him and hit it with a firebolt from Shadowheart. big boom, close to 100 dmg if you take the fourth barrel from earlier in the ship. easy.
@lendial
@lendial 10 ай бұрын
this fight became its own game
@leevah
@leevah 10 ай бұрын
I got him in tactician mode quite "easily" by using command: drop weapon with shadowheart, the boss drops his huge sword that you can pick up and use to smash his face, and he does a lot less damage
@JazzJackrabbit
@JazzJackrabbit 10 ай бұрын
I think the best an average run can hope for here is the Commander dropping his sword by using Shadowheart's Command spell (ironic). Then you can pick it up and use it yourself before you activate the console and end the encounter.
@MrNukealizer
@MrNukealizer 10 ай бұрын
You can also pretty easily snipe the mind flayer when he's almost dead for 75 xp, but it does get hard to do any more.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Agreed for sure. You can almost always get the commander too if you disarmed him
@benji2495
@benji2495 9 ай бұрын
No savescumming but spamming bugged Mage hands, very fair test 😂
@markusturunen7929
@markusturunen7929 8 ай бұрын
My currently optimal way to steal sword of Avernus is cast command spell drop with shadow hearth and take sword on ground and get out the scene. 45% chance of success.
@DamianJoseph661
@DamianJoseph661 10 ай бұрын
I might have just gotten lucky with the mind flayer rolls, but after disarming the demon I managed to steal it and kill him on my third try. It was just in the nick of time, though, because the cambions were up in my face while Us was distracting them and I killed him on the same turn I escaped.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Yeah if the mindflayer gets stuns on his turns it’s really easy but most of the time that doesn’t happen
@KrossBillNye
@KrossBillNye 10 ай бұрын
Totally making my dragonborn warcleric to command that bugger to drop my sword.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I love the way dragonborn look but I wish their breath racial scaled with levels. It sucks so much after like lvl 3
@Tunichtgut789
@Tunichtgut789 10 ай бұрын
It took me a handful save scum attack rerolls and the explosives to kill the general. Never would have thought there is a way to kill everything within 15 turns
@highrofellos6721
@highrofellos6721 10 ай бұрын
Doing it on "normal" is possible, but a pain. On Tactician? I Theory-Crafted and tested it for quite a while and never managed to accomplish it. I am actually shocked that someone got it done without an insane amount of Save-Scums.
@Salking85
@Salking85 10 ай бұрын
U are a sick sick sick man. Love it. 😂
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I’m putting unhealthy amounts of time into the game too hahaha
@gossymer.
@gossymer. 10 ай бұрын
If there was any argument for savescumming, this was it ; saves time and saves lives (both in game and IRL) due to avoiding the stress and hours of frustration lmao
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
True but I wanted to see if it was possible without. I’m not gonna try this again anyways
@Secretsofsociety
@Secretsofsociety 10 ай бұрын
That character creation boss is really hard.
@hamsterover
@hamsterover 10 ай бұрын
Well, of course you came up with it! everything is easier there, you collect all the barrels with explosives at the level, you take the brain into pets at will, you close the passage with a chest (OR BETTER TWO) so that new demons do not pass, you knock out the sword from the general and that's it, you are already fighting with your hands and no problems, you finish off the remaining 40 lives with barrels (approximately).
@davidclark765
@davidclark765 10 ай бұрын
This certainly was some delicious cheese, as promised. But now that it's been patched, I wonder if there's any other method? Not to make you suffer more, haha. Great content as always.
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I did read on reddit one other person did it by save scumming. He said it took 3 hours of re-loading literally every save to get only crit hits from him and every attack missed on enemies. Which sounds wayyyy too boring for me lol
@_Yazeed_
@_Yazeed_ 10 ай бұрын
Legend. Wish there was an easy way to cheese this, I wanna fight without forcing my friend to redo the fight with me 10s of times haha
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
I saw one other person post they did it with save scumming (But they took over 2 hours of reloading only when the got crits and the enemy missed)
@CptVein
@CptVein 10 ай бұрын
Command on shadowheart and make him drop him weapon Shadowheart uses bless on the Mind Flayer, Lae Zel and the third best fighter Clear the event behind him before the 2 other dude spawn
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Yeah you can do that for sure and then skip the 2 cambions totally
@matt46142
@matt46142 10 ай бұрын
I just wacked it a bunch with my sword while shadowheart sat by the controls waiting for the signal lol
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
You can get 1 of the dudes that way pretty easily but getting ALL of them is hard in 15 turns
@Alpha_Negus
@Alpha_Negus 9 ай бұрын
I did it legit once but as soon as combat ended i died to burn from the fire on the floor. Had no luck since then.
@HippioKass
@HippioKass 10 ай бұрын
Wow didnt even think to just make him drop it. Ya im never killing him but the weapon shall be mine next playthrough :P
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
That weapon is so nice! It's probably the best 1 you can find in act 1 (Unless ur a Githyanki)
@BlameBarky
@BlameBarky 10 ай бұрын
You can no longer have multiple Mage Hands active at the same time. - From todays Patch lol
@GaryHost-qs9pg
@GaryHost-qs9pg 10 ай бұрын
Good work! Devs will be patching that asap
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
Most likely they will lol
@yepyep2762
@yepyep2762 10 ай бұрын
You absolute mad lad
@ProxyGateTactician
@ProxyGateTactician 10 ай бұрын
That's the goal lol
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