I wasn't ready XD

I'm Jarl Balgruff and I be ballin' ballin' Jarl Ballin', ballin' Woman, I'm Lord of the Rings I'm the Jarl of Whiterun Hollar if you need me. Haters gonna hate Owwwwwwwww Haters gonna hate Owwwwwwwww Bitches gonna hate Yo momma's gonna hate Swag. Swag Hollar if you need me Hollar if you need reefer Bitch

@@Xolcm I see you a man of culture of manslayer as well 😏😏😏

Agreed, my only questions are who taught him and why?

We'll bang ok.

Hulda Hulda I am shook

Jarl Jarl Balgruuf

@@itsclemtime2357 Don't worry about me, i get my gossips from a reliable source around town.

Hulda xD

Lol 😆 im going to name my future child President.

To life

To

Life

.

Oh that's it! I *knew* there was something missing there!

His children have fallen under the influence of Mephala through the Ebony Blade, which is kept in Dragonsreach. That, combined with the kind of spoilage that comes of being raised to privilege and the neglect that comes of having one parent missing (see the video we're commenting on) and the other occupied with affairs of state, and you have a couple of very angry, entitled brats. If they don't actively want him dead, they don't act like they'd mind very much either.

@@DaveC2729 Honestly, for such a nice Jarl, two out of his three kids are insufferable. The remarks they make about the Dragonborn being a 'new servant' is telltale.

That's kinda sad, balgruuf is a great guy

@@AmberTurdsShittyBedsheet At least siding with the Stormcloaks rips the privlage away from those brats, even if they don't ever really suffer from it Good job Bethesda, doing the bare minimum as always. 🙄

That ACTUALLY makes a lot of sense!

Wow good call. This can be settled by seeing if the child is also listed as a child to the Jarls other brother but I don't know where to see that

That was my first thought- and it makes sense

makes most sense. but hats off, this guy is a masterclass in milking skyrim content. rather makes a 20 minute video about it then going for the most obvious solution

@@hazardeur what? He's just going over all the possibilities

You don't visit the cloud district vary often, do you?

@@1catfan605 oh, what am I saying? Of course you don't.

Nazeem was the mother, because he is always in the jarls backside

@William Sly sob*

More like Naziem

Victory royal

@@elcomentador2853 get tf out.

@@elcomentador2853 you can take your Fortnite and childish intellect to Ninja's channel.

This XD

Irileth is the mother

and he got sick moves! best dude

Preparing for his dance off with the dragons

Also, Mikael calls her a “Fiery Widow.”

Yes also, in that quest where you are helping Carlotta make that bard quit hitting on her, if you brawl him he says "that widow is mine, she just doesn't know it yet"

@@nikkihuttohomes “That Fiery Widow is mine, she just doesn’t know it yet.”

I could’ve sworn she says her husband died and they moved to whiterun after. I could’ve mix characters up, I’ve played the game so many times I don’t really talk to most of the npcs so my memory could be off.

Wow. I never knew that. I'll have to look for it

That's what I was thinking! Would make more sense, why no one mentions it and her, and why it's locked downstairs. I like this theory.

@@laure2725 As do I

that's a really good theory

My theory was Balgruff once used the ebony blade and got drunk fell to the corruption of it and murdered his wife and in his guilt had the blade sealed a way and hired irilth since she worshipped maphala had her as a thane and to sense when the blade was calling out

And now it's doing the same with the kids.

If my wife takes me out that way, it won't mind.

🤣🤣🤣

Hahaha!!!

SWAG

so capoira basically

“Nah babe you just don’t remember havin this one trust me”

Yea I caught this too, I was like… wait what? Wouldn’t that make her hate him?? Hey, maybe she took that blade and tried to kill him….. oh wait.

I had to go back and listen to this like four times too. I think what he's saying is Balgruuf attempted to pass off the illegitimate kid as his wife's kid to the public.

Lmfao yeah a big problem if the woman don't remember having a child like how the fuck would that work exactly 😅

@@No1gamer several reasons why you dont remeber Amnesia Head Injury Alzheimer desease and in TES *M A G I C* But with the magic you could also remove the memory of this particular situation.

Yeah, it's very likely that's how the blade got there, but i suppose one can only speculate on whether she knew of its terrible power.

So Irileth takes the Ebony Blade and runs off from the MT. She meets Balgruuf, who takes her into his service. She returns with him to Whiterum and strikes up a friendship with Balgruuf's wife. At the same time, she and Balgruuf begin having an affair. That's when the Ebony Blade convinces her to kill Balgruuf's wife. Balgruuf probably would have executed Irileth, but they find out that she is pregnant. Somehow Balgruuf and Farengar learn of the Ebony Blade and steal it away. Being unable to destroy it by any means at their disposal, they decide to lock it away. Balgruuf, being a generally good guy, keeps Irileth on as his Housecarl. Irileth becomes obsessed with Balgruuf's safety, as a means of atonement. Too bad the vanilla children are all potatoes with hair. No way to confirm or deny this little thought exercise just by looking at the model.

@@nolgroth makes total sense

@@nolgroth Except there is no miscegenation in this world

@@mikeobama69 Canonically incorrect. Look into the origin of the Bretons, the Gray Prince, Lyris Titanborn and among others, I'm sure. The actual limits are that Man and Mer can breed with neither Khajit nor Argonians.

Well Bethesda actually made the ebony blade in a very smart way. It gets considerably powerful (for a unique weapon, which means not made or enchanted by the player) once you fully "level" it up. But as soon as you upgrade it by killing your first ally with it mephala essentially got what she wanted. She made you kill someone who trusted you for power. Or maybe not even power but curiosity. Many try it not because they want to use the ebony blade but rather because they just want to see what happens. Of course if you just take it and store it in some chest never to be seen again you screwed her over. But if you even upgrade it once mephala succeeded in corrupting you. Actually many daedra actually "beat" the Dragonborn. Clavicus vile wins either way. Wether Barnes dies or not he gets his power back. Only way to resist him is to ignore barbas and never start the quest. Same with hircine. Werewolf or hunter you killed someone in her name. She won. You'd have to ignore her quest. Same with mehrunes dagon. If you refuse to kill the mythic dawn guy he'll just attack you and force you to kill him. Gotta ignore the quest. Same with meridia. Gotta ignore the quest (although doing what meridia wants is actually the morally good choice) Same with boethia. Gotta ignore the quest. Same with hermaeus mora. Gotta ignore the quest (Well if you do Dragonborn you'll become his servant either way). Same with malacath. Let the orc get killed by giants or kill the orc afterwards. The weak orc dies. Malacath is satisfied. Gotta once again ignore the quest. Only daedric princes you can actually "beat" or rather cheat are: Namira: Kill her cannibals and fail the quest Mephala: Never use the ebony blade Molag bal: Kill the mage molag wants you to bring to him by yourself. The quest will fail and molag won't be able to torture him to get his revenge. Azura: Create the black star Apart from them you essentially loose once you start the quest.

@@dennisleonardo2992 Yeah. Basically, from a gameplay perspective the Ebony Blade does nothing to a player. However, from an RPG role-playing perspective, it IS your loss as the player. I like actually role-playing when it comes to stuff like this, so I actually did leave the Ebony Blade alone. Only later in the game did I come back for it once I was post-game and said "yeah so nothing I do now is canon to my playthrough since it's done". I know it's a bit nerdy lol

@@marisanya I think it's fine to nerd out here. Skyrim has interesting lore. And role playing is essentially what keeps this game alive. How else would you justify several playthroughs?

@@marisanya i took the blade but took it to my far away castle and locked it up in the underground dungeon after putting a seal over it. (really just a lightning seal, but for rp i was a seal for the item.. so the item never again be found by anyone..

@@dennisleonardo2992 honestly i only had many 4, but never once did i bead the game the main quest was meh at best and i had more fun exsploring the world and doing side quest with modded in quests.

Welp time to kill Mephala

That's a good theory 😶👏

Exactly my thoughts. His wife could be possessed by the daedra and tried to kill Balgruuf. Than he (or Irileth) killed her in self-defense. That's why no one dares to talk about Balgruuf's wife.

There's that pro balgruuf comment 🎉

Literally read this as it was said 😂

WHY!! 😁😂😂😂😁😁😁😊😊😁😁😂

Dude, that's not nice, messing with KZfaqs algorithm like that, I legit was going to freak out.

bowl graph

lmaooo

Ballad of buster scruggs?

@Jacob Locklear lol that reference really doesn't belong here, congratulations Jacob, you are now a madlad

Jarl Ballin can’t find his quicksave and has to live with his decision

@@VivaCristoRei9 wait you quicksave before going on massacares? I just go in and live with the consequences.

Yup, every npc is just a player with an ai, so the two children limit still applies

Yeah I don't think the brother thing means anything, I think it is either a simple catagory mistake or as you said there was an npc child limit so they just put him in the brother section. I also don't think Balgruuf cheated or did anything weird. When someone who is literally the Goddess of lying tells you that you're not from the same mom, then it's most likely just another lie. Jarl Balling is an honorable dude and people with honor don't cheat.

Oh yeah. This line of Irileth's was likely a lead-in for the original (bigger) The Whispering Door.

When theres a child i want to adopt but they have have parents i kill them both when the child isnt around to see me then wait a few days and adopt them at riftens orphanage

Same bro

I kill them to save the animals

@@user_name_redacted Hircine will be pissed

@@MeadowBrook2000 Remember he was ok with the dragon born killing the hunters

Yep. Yoink!

This journal is going on the bookshelf and the swords going on the rack in the house.

Lol, mine was the KFC chicken

Makes sense

could the devs really be that lazy to make npcs an exception to that rule? yep

i feel like Bethesda would’ve never been that lazy, however plausible your theory is. The dev team of Bethesda definitely enjoy going into depth and leave things for us to theorize and speculate about. i would’nt necessarily lean towards the theory of the only two children allowed speculation. I feel like Bethesda would’ve made an exception to the rule if that would benefit the lore and therefore theories and speculations about said character. however i do find your theory quite a interesting catch and consider it a good thinking material to unravel the mystery behind “the brother”

Yeah, but this is in vanilla and the db being able to adopt is added in Hearthfire, so that's not necessarily connected.

@@KarmasAB123 This.

What a great boss.

I'd do it for 30. Spongebob is untouchable.

Where in oblivion did this come from??

Imagine Spongebob in the Soul Cairn

@G G I don't even watch Spongebob and even I got a good laugh out of this. :) Cute pic btw.

same same

I hope to live long enough to see #7.

Did you find this in game or hear about this somewhere?

​@@witchyfirbolg yeah, you talk to Irileth and one of the options is "what dangers does the Jarl face" or something like that

I actually heard this line in-game today

I mean, she’s right. A literal Daedric Prince is living in his basement and hangs out with his kids..

@@witchyfirbolg if you talk to her in game she says that

Ok but can we talk about the fact that a Hagraven would even be interested in a human? They are pretty clearly disinterested in mortal races post transformation, so just by merit of her liking the player means that she was either a redeemable Hagraven or one who was so smitten they might want to change. Also, magic. Pretty sure she would know she isn't the best physical fit for a mortal and would alter her appearance so that.....ahem....things would happen.

Goddamnit Sam

@@clayxros576 Imagine if skyrim let you keep her as your wife

A Night to Remember indeed...

@@clayxros576 Actually, there's a ritual that turns regular witches into hagravens (but it involves a lot of murder). There's a side quest that lets you help a witch become one.

who are the poor kids lmao

Oh no! :0

lol I think a giant space mission is more dangerous than leaving your kids with a whispering sword.

Whoops

thats why you should download the dovakhins vault and keep all your deadric shit locked up deep in a mountain guarded by a dragon

God me too! Like, seriously they're ALWAYS right! Y'know?

Does Hrongar have a spouse? I'm pretty sure he doesn't but I'll ask just in case.

JustsomeguyIdk I don’t believe so.

THIS

Lydia is Balgruuf's niece.

Knight of the Nine Really?

I'm not going to be Pope because some watery tart lobbed a scimitar at me

His name is Biggus Dickus Wait, wrong film

That films ending is so anticlimactic

@@keygenlain That's the whole point though, isn't it?

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!!! THANK YOU!!! 😂😂😂

@@7ghjbf6ugd42 That actually makes a hell of a lot of sense, and would make a lot more of this story click for me personally.

Actually this makes a lot of sense in a way, what I would edit from your theory is the Mephala being displeased part, what I think happened was that Irileth, did her job for the Morag Tong and under the orders of Mephala brought the blade to Whiterun, during the time the blade was corrupting Balgruuf's family, Irileth and Balgruuf became closer and she eventually fell for him causing her to leave the Tong all togeter, the cheating happens and that triggers the wife, Irileth in love with the man does not recognize the subtle changes in Balgruuf's or just attributes them to him being a man, they did fight together in battle, so she ignores the blade all together or if she didn't she does not tell Balgruuf so he doesn't kill her or abandon her, when Balgruuf is forced to kill his wife who had the blade at the time, he suspected the blade probably because it was a weapon he did not recognize or that when Farengar was examining the corpse after the event, due to the sudden actions of his wife, he noticed that the blade had unknown enchantments, this lead to them sealing the blade with both having a copy of they, Balgruuf because he is jarl and Farengar so he can study the blade and find a way to destroy it since the skyforge did not work. The dragons come and they are both too distracted to notice that the blade is working on Nelikir. The reason why I say that Mephala is not displeased with Irileth is because someone has to be protecting her from the Morag Tong, I don't think you can just leave that organization and if Mephala was displeased no name change or mortal magic could protect Irileth, hell she could have used the influence of the blade to target her as revenge and not just Baalgruuf. Anyway that is my theory

@@KradXinam very interesting approach as well!! Oh boy do I live for the whiterun drama

Every time I go to dragonsreavh for the first time I just loot it straight away

I'm pretty sure that skeleton has something to do with those Maven letters. He did a video about those.

Yes there is.. I was wondering what the hell that skeleton was doing there... WOW!

I believe that’s a separate incident with Maven Black-Briar.

That's mavin black-briar and her letters, completely different association.

Gus Polinski Oh yeah thatd make her super wet man

Lol, hopefully she’s a TES fan and understands that reference. Otherwise you might catch a heel to the groin.

😂😂😂😂

"And I be ballin"

Halla if you need me

what is this mystical sidequest you speak of i don't think ive encountered it

@@franciosdauteuil4626 Just go talk to her at any point in the game, she complains about Sven if you ask her about how much attention she gets from dudes. Then you can either ask him politely to stop or beat him up for her.

@@franciosdauteuil4626 talk to Carlotta, and she'll mention men giving her trouble.. it's a quick little fun side quest.

@@brendanlowry247 everyone confuses Mikael with Sven lol. I guess it's because of their voice actor being the same.

@@brendanlowry247 Sven is in riverwood, Mikael is in whiterun.

LOL X'D

That’s some fucking Dragonborn Logic.

Ah yes, that must be referring to anyone but me.

@@insaincaldo well, you are the dragonborn, the strongest warrior in all of Skyrim, and the killer of Alduin, you're probably the best man to handle that sword...

I just wrote the same comment then saw it was already posted. Brilliant!

For free I'm sure!

@@blackandwhiteduo4971 Nope $20

@@VeganAncientDragonKnight as was I lol 😂

@@MichaelW52883 how

@@ursanan1839 If you don't get it your oblivious to EA's bs

I got a messenger ad

Too true.

Best opening to a video ever

One time he said hey guys its Skyrim here and nate wait a minute? *Glitch screen* I got a kick out of that

"HEY, Scott here!"

THE MANDALORIAN RULEZ I remember that! It made me laugh so hard.

"And Skyrim is a ______ game" >thicc

Mikael is the bard of the Bannered Mare, not the Sleeping Giant. You’re thinking of Sven, who has the same voice of Mikael but is the one actually involved in the love triangle. Mikael doesn’t do poetry or writing love letters, he just barks like a dog. “Some parting advice? Women. Love. Sonnets.”

Too funny.

"eh, it'll be aight"

I read this as it was being said

one detail I think should be considered is a small misc quest where you are asked to deliver a sword to Balgruuf that was special made by the local blacksmith, it's always a two handed sword so, even though he carries a one handed one with him, he does seem to like using two handed ones or at least has had prior experience. as to who stopped his bloody rampage? My guess could be Irileth herself since Drunmer are known to have knowledge on Daedra so maybe she could have some "cure" for it...or the court wizard since he is the other person with a key to the room...Just a guess though

This is what I was thinking too! Or Irileth killed her protecting the Jarl. I just don’t think Balgruuf would have been tempted by the blade

I was thinking the same thing too, if his youngest is actually his brother, that would have been great fuel for Mephala to lie to his wife to get her to try to kill him. Maybe he killed her in self defense and hid the blade away and tossed her under the bridge and kept it hush (killing her would be a bad look for a jarl even if she was possessed)

To build on that further, it would have made Mephala happy to see him kill his wife even if his wife was the one under her influence. Maybe Mephala is hoping for a similar outcome by turning his kids on him as well? Maybe thats why he died in the cut content, he didnt want to make the same mistake so he just let them kill him

Good take, his wife would certainly kill her children first, so Baalgruf had no choice.

I can barely remember names but that would have been so cool! Some of the Jarl most likely would have been related (like at least second cousins) and them being on different sides of the war would have added so much more depth to the war quests than just what it is. Also some of the Jarls would definitely be more likeable if they had more extended backgrounds. All in all, I’m just sad we were robbed of a nice and thick family tree somewhere in a fort or longhouse.

Hmm, died... or was killed by Balgruf

Or she could just be making up an excuse for why she has a child but doesn't have a husband (because if the other jarls or members of the whiterun court found out the truth that would mean that jarl Balgruuf would be greatly discredited.)

@@AnneWest_ and maybe the skeleton that we find below the bridge that leads to dragonsreach could belong to him as long as we don't know how it ended in the pool Sorry for my bad English lol

Carlotta killed her husband, he's buried in the narrow space where the Nightshade grows between her house and a city wall. No man will get between her and her child. I wonder why?

maybe balgruuf killed her husband 3:) there is, a mention of fear concerning a chase out of town

*balls

Insert iconic potato voice.

@@EvilPhoenix007 it’s too bad they’re gone

Good job

@@pearsemolloy9656 this is where the fun begins

Very interesting !

Imma try that now

Because they’re waiting for the Listener.

I'm guessing that's because they were lazy and made everyone in the sanctuary have a good disposition with the player

Well 3 put of 5 do power up Ebony Blade. Then Ritual Stone comes in clutch.

This actually made me laugh.

Lol

Time loop?

@@pradnya9976 Same!!

Hidden details you may have missed

or she lies about struggling to raise the prices without people complaining, when ysolda comments she can raise prices on green apples she is interested in doing so

This comment is too powerful... Wait... I know you...

Wait, that's not confirmed yet?

He shares the information too freely. An avatar of Julianos, maybe.

Long, drawn out words - check Knows far more than a mortal could - check Weird, tentacle like limbs...?

😂😂😂👍❤

I hope they redo Skyrim in 2030 or something in a version which is worth to be called remake, not the "slightly better graphics and same bugs as before" Legendary version...

@@serujioraiton2811 yeah and just go in deeper on character development

that would be so much memory that you would need a 150 terabyte hard drive

@@serujioraiton2811 Special Edition is barely a remaster and to put salt in the wound, the textures aren't even clean. Someone on the Nexus made a 7GB texture replacer that actually had proper cleaned out ones and when testing it, it used 500MB less VRAM

So an update

I was thinking this!!!!

that actually has it's own back story to do with Maven and having someone assassinated... nothing to do with the Jarl 😊 x

@@liamsimpson2702 Maybe Nelkir is Maven's son.

Liam Simpson could you elaborate?? I’ve wondered about that

@@maraazura sure ! so basically Mavan had a dealing that went wrong with somebody ( the note can actually be found on the table where you have fisticuffs with Uthgerd the unbroken, that will give you more details ) and it is HIGHYLY thought that the Skeleton under the bridge? is that of the man who betrayed or wronged Maven Blackbriar :)

And a huge mod option, monthly game altering updates. But yes, it's still a little pathetic.

Maybe they will put the unfinished quests in.... BEHIND A PAYWALL...

Get over it already, seriously.

*Fanbase Cash Grab* 101

@@jasonvisentin3984 Why would you say that... Dont give them any ideas damnit....but seriously though theres probably a modder some where out there thats just rebuilding/re-adding unfinished quests

I was thinking the same thing and combed through the comments to find someone who agreed lol.

Hmm.. I like it!

Or maybe he killed is wife because of the Sword ! and then he was drunk and had other children with another women!

This was my thought as well. Perhaps she got the blade, attempted to commit regicide, and was stopped. Perhaps around that time is when his youngest child was conceived, either before or after.

I was thinking the same thing. She attacks him with the blade, and he's forced to protect himself, but kills her in the process. There's also the possibility that she was pregnant to a different man and it was her infidelity that was the issue, but Mephala twists the truth into lies for her own nefarious purposes and so, instead, mirrors the truth of it to reflect badly on Balgruuf, since Nelkir still believes he's genuinely his father. So the hatred would be much deeper.

Looks like Whiterun’s walls still make you feel safe then huh?

Just like how you’ve heard things about Ulfric you don’t like, but you still know he’s right for Skyrim. Makes sense. Edit: PS

Ballin ballin jarl ballin.

then he's already got you

What are you? A cursed hybrid of Keannu Reeves, Ralof and Jhonny Silverhand?

This is the one I choose to believe maybe she died in childbirth. Balgruuf in his grief got drunk and slept with another women. Who got pregnant he than took In that child and hid from them that he wasn't his wifes.

Doesn’t mean that she can’t go one with someone less annoying than Mikael

Yes but that is rumored to be Maven Blackbriers doing and there's a lot of evidence to support it

@@rosascreed5124 lol how so?

@@fatty1040 You can find a note in the Bannered Mare, with some explanation. I'm sure you can find a video on it by Nate or Camelworks

Liam Hutton while I agree with most of this, keep in mind that during the civil war quest Balgruuf uses a One-Handed sword to defend himself from the stormcloaks. This would make it likely that the Jarl probably only experimented with the Ebony Blade a bit and probably didn’t use it as his first choice weapon.

His brother is using two handed and could possibly the one that needed to be kept their eye on

There was a scenario where the brother took the throne

Then again skyrim does have birth control

@@christianvanslooten3761 I expect that when he regularly wielded the Ebony Blade, it's magical power rendered it his primary weapon, even if he generally preferred a one handed sword. After discarding the Ebony Blade he may have chosen to go back to his previous style of fighting because he was just better at it.

And the youngest child was adopted after the Mrs. whacked his family. That's a heck of a secret. "You're not my son, my wife killed your parents."

Seems understandable, and makes the most sense

@@jamesbenthul4590 i like this theory

This was pretty much the same idea I had. Not that the Jarl killed his wife, but that his wife killed others. Perhaps the Jarl only survived due to the actions of his loyal bodyguard, who recognized the influence of the daedra at work.

That is the theory I want to believe as I don't want the jarl to be evil

To be fair the Dragonborn is probably one of the few that could actually safely use it. The Dragonborn is quite literally a divine being in soul; making corruption a moot point... Even without that considering all the dragon souls he absorbed; Mephala would be hard pressed to corrupt him indirectly through the sword- Maybe she could do it if she was literally palming his soul... Otherwise, I'm doubtful she has that much power outside her realm. There's a reason Daedra tend to take the gentle approach with the Player in Skyrim. Alduin isn't something even they can take lightly. The only reason that dragon is even fightable is because he didn't play by destiny's script; subsequently weakening him while in Tamriel. By the time the games finished the Dragonborn is someone they'd much rather have as an ally; to spread their influence. After all he could easily side with another Daedra... Or ruin centuries worth of plots. It's much simpler just to work with the dragonborn rather than against.

Balgruuf for high king now!