Bands That Changed Their Sound... Did It Work? An Analysis...

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26 күн бұрын

In this video, my buddy Trevor and I go over 10 Hard rock/hair metal albums in which bands changed their sound. We discuss the change and decide... did the change work or not? Come along for the ride!

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@MetalJesusRocks 24 күн бұрын

I’m born and raised in Seattle and so the 90s Grunge movement is dear to my heart…but I still genuinely enjoy KISS’s Carnival of Souls because Paul Stanley is such a good songwriter. Is it the best in their catalog? No. But if you sit down and listen to the songs, they are very good and way better than what people give them credit for.

@mattc560 24 күн бұрын

Metal Jesus watches the Guru??! Awesome! Got to meet you at SCRGE 2019. Guru's gotta get you on the channel

@HairMetalGuru419 21 күн бұрын

Hey, I'm a KISS fanatic. I've done a couple videos strictly on the band. That being said, I just can't get into Carnival of Souls... and trust me, I tried. I would've loved to have seen them continue in the vein of Revenge--one of my favorite Kiss albums of all time. Hey, man, appreciate you watching and supporting the channel, seriously.

@krashkoursemetalshow 24 күн бұрын

Thanks again for having me . I never tell whats in the party cup ! Plenty more albums to talk about as well 😁🤘

@MetalJesusRocks 24 күн бұрын

You were great dude! I enjoyed hearing your perspective as a younger metal dude. That was fun 🤘

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

love the dimension you added to this video.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

@@patrickreeves4650 I appreciate it Patrick 🤘 cheers!

@TMINE100 23 күн бұрын

You were a good guest,hope to see ya on here again.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

@@TMINE100 thank you , hopefully sooner than later 👀😁🤘

@winstonslone2797 24 күн бұрын

Perfect timing. New guru content. Evening is now planned.

@winstonslone2797 24 күн бұрын

I'll check out you're compatriots channel. Can't go wrong with more Rock N Roll.

@mattc560 24 күн бұрын

Awesome vid, just subscribed to Trevor's channel! Roxx Gang's The Voodoo You Love is one of my favorite mid 90s albums. A couple of albums I have to mention are Tigertailz - Wazbones!, TNT's Firefly and Transistor, Love/Hate-Let's Rumble, and Phantom Blue - Built To Perform. With Tigertailz, Love/Hate, and Phantom Blue, they definitely went with a much heavier sound on those albums. With TNT's late 90s albums , they went more alternative, but I really enjoy those albums. However, I was glad when they returned to form with My Religion. On a similar note, it would be cool if one of you did a video on metal bands that went hair metal, like Celtic Frost, Accept, Judas Priest, Tokyo Blade, Raven etc.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

Cheers matt , let rumble is great but I still think is sounds like love/hate , not much sounds really different imo . But yes that’s a good list of bands that went hair metal 🤘

@mattc560 23 күн бұрын

@krashkoursemetalshow I can agree, Let's Rumble is probably a major stretch for this. I just love how that album is even more raw than the first two, though.

@HairMetalGuru419 15 күн бұрын

Matt, you added a bunch of albums to my revisit list, like Tokyo Blade and Let's Rumble. I'm all about Wazbones, Phantom Blue, and I fuckin' LOVE Roxx Gang. Why couldn't they have released their followup earlier?

@krashkoursemetalshow 15 күн бұрын

@@HairMetalGuru419 in short , infighting ☹️

@jeremylauer2939 23 күн бұрын

Love the Vain album in the background.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

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@Ouijawii 21 күн бұрын

Gonna throw 1995s 'Change' from Pink Cream 69 out there as an album that went grungy and featured a new singer as one that I really like. Light of Day has some crunchy, pitchy guitar riffs that I think are really cool. New Control has some really cool hard hitting riffs and vocals. And Only the Good is a great mellow tune that shouldn't work as well as it does on an album like this. This is by far PC69's least revered album but one I always go back to. Their next album Food for Thought was great too and if you only listen to one song from that one make it Until I Wake, just an epic song that grows and hits hard at the end and is about the struggles with alcohol addiction.

@birdab.6873 21 күн бұрын

Great show! One example where the change in sound - IMO - brought out a really good album was Shotgun Messiah with their 1993 album Violent New Breed.

@toddgambrel4316 24 күн бұрын

Another great episode. I actually like your discourse on the type of Hair Metal you prefer. While I love the sleaze bands, I also branch out into the European AOR. Von Groove, Gotthard, House of Shakira, L.R.S. and Art Nation, etc. So much more to Hair Metal than people realize! Keep up the great work. I'm approaching 50 and still love finding about bands that I had missed growing up. Because of your channel I now own Sleeze Beaz, Electric Angels, and many others. Keep it up!

@patrickpowell1375 24 күн бұрын

WASP's KFD is one of, if not THE darkest albums I've heard. Another album you have to be in right headspace to listen to. I love it! Another album comes to mind is Extreme's Waiting for the Punchline(1995). A tad bit grungy, and the guitars are downtuned some, but Gary and Nuno can write great rock songs, and this album is no exception. Fantastic video, Guru!!

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

i got the import of kfd when it came out. great record with a great bonus track on it.

@mango1boy 22 күн бұрын

Thanks for the reminder of Strypers reborn! Gave it a listen today - I loved it

@krashkoursemetalshow 21 күн бұрын

💯🤘

@stephensanchez9590 23 күн бұрын

Really enjoyed the episode great topic and it's great like you said to have younger people such as your co-host enjoy the music we love

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

Just need more younger people 😁🤘

@nohopeinsight5790 21 күн бұрын

Great selection, guys ! To me Ultraphobic is truly an underrated gem, Warrant's most accomplished album with Dog Eat Dog. It's a shame Warrant doesn't play any song of this record in concert... There was some great stuff at that time, I think of Mike Tramp's Freak Of Nature albums, Dee Snider's Widowmaker second record (Stand By For Pain), Vince Neil second solo album (Carved In Stone). And, of course, THE masterpiece : Mötley Crüe '94 album.

@eddiepavlore9500 21 күн бұрын

Awesome episode! 🔥🎸🤘🏻

@Assimilator702 22 күн бұрын

Stryper has shown on their recent releases show they have true Metal in their DNA. They can get back to their musical roots and still sound fresh.

@blairthomson4719 23 күн бұрын

Kik Tracee's 'Field Trip EP' (1992) which followed 'No Rules' (1991) was quite a deviation from that monstrous (totally underrated) debut.

@inmyhouse11 19 күн бұрын

Great to see Krash on the show.

@HairBandBasement 23 күн бұрын

Pantera’s shift from glam to heavy awesomeness with Cowboys From Hell. Love/Hate’s Let’s Rumble was darker and heavier than their 1st 2 albums. And definitely Whitesnake changing from a blues/rock band on Slide It In (there were 2 versions.) Or the total change from the ‘87 album.

@craigwisnom 21 күн бұрын

Fun as always. Seeing Sebastian Bach here in Tucson Tuesday night! Saw Lita Ford Friday night

@billyaltvater2238 23 күн бұрын

My Top 5 1 Native Tongue- Poison 2 Chinese Democracy- Guns N Roses 3 Slave To The Grind- Skid Row 4 Motley Crue 94 5 Generation Swine- Motley Crue Generation Swine and Chinese Democracy are two albums i used to hate with a burning passion but grew to love them more and more as i got older. Native Tongue is my favorite Poison album.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

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@1Vettefan 23 күн бұрын

From a sales perspective these are mostly misses but I still really like them: Dokken "Shadowlife", Winger "Pull", Van Halen 3 with Gary Cherone, Shotgun Messiah "Violent New Breed", Warrant "Dog Eat Dog", Fastway "Waiting for the Roar". I'm sure there are more but that is all I can think of at the moment.

@PaulTheglamguy 22 күн бұрын

great video! I LOVE the motley crue 94 album, and have been liking Native tongue more and more recently

@winstonslone2797 24 күн бұрын

Danger danger was on the turntable today. I love their debut. I live in the hood in the Bronx. Its all rap till you hit my building and its constant hard rock/ hair metal. I still have hair down to almost my waist. I'm looking to start a glam band. I play guitar, bass guitar and drums

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

that first danger danger record is an absolute masterpiece.

@winstonslone2797 23 күн бұрын

@@patrickreeves4650 bang bang

@camilomontoya7412 23 күн бұрын

Hell yea brother

@Pokinbrat 20 күн бұрын

I just listened to Crue 94 for the first time last week. I was amazed. If it was the same album but Soundgarden had thier named slapped on the front of it, i think 3 to 5 of those songs would be in rotation with with the top grunge songs that are still being played today. Its that good.

@MetalMan73100 23 күн бұрын

Here´s a thought experiment: Young people today having to choose between hair metal and grunge, how many of them will feel compelled to go for the dark and depressing, even suicidal, ethos of grunge over the bubbly and fun mentality of the hair bands? Not a rhetorical question, by the way.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

I battle this question everyday of my life … with no real explanation , I have theories but the shortest one is that : people are retarded 😁🤘

@hothjawa2509 23 күн бұрын

Skid row sub human race is a band killer for me, only one good song on there, would love to see a sleaze metal special, great work as always

@rob1tnt 22 күн бұрын

I think some bands have pulled off a change in sound better than others. When it works, it works well but when it doesn't it mostly come off as desperation to stay relevant. In most cases tho i tend to prefer the early work from bands. Albums like Too Fast For Love to me are the most honest and true genuine No influence from a record label or a to stay relevant.

@kikiki4592 24 күн бұрын

I love the Native Tounge record, and I am a huge Poison and Kotzen fan. Yet, that was not a Poison album, it was a Richie Kotzen featuring the members of Poison album.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

😁🤘

@chriswheatley3146 23 күн бұрын

Definitely a good description of the album. I love the Winery Dogs stuff and gave Native Tongue a second listen (outside when I got it on release) due to digging through Kotzen's discography. It's a lot better than I originally thought; albeit a bit too long.

@chriswheatley3146 23 күн бұрын

With Poison- Native Tongue, I did not care for it back then as well to where it felt like a wasted purchase when I first got it on release. I just recently decided to listen to the album again after digging through Ritchie Kotzen's discography (I love his Winery Dogs stuff). It's actually a decent album; just very different than their other albums and too long (as mentioned). As for a band that feels like they changed their sound and I stopped listening to, it was Bon Jovi post the New Jersey album. I loved the early stuff up to Slippery and thought New Jersey was kind of a weak album; but still fit with their other stuff. With Keep the Faith, it felt like an absolute snoozefest. 7800 fahrenheit was peak Bon Jovi imo.

@dontaylor9630 24 күн бұрын

Hey Anthony digging the channel so far.I haven’t seen you do a head to head in a while so I have a killer idea but it’ll be a tough one.How about comparing Wildside UTI against GNR Appetite for Destruction.2 of the best debuts in hair metal history!

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

I would say roxx gang ‘things you never done before ‘ would be a better battle vs appetite cause nothing stands a chance vs UTI 👀😁🤘

@dontaylor9630 23 күн бұрын

⁠@@krashkoursemetalshowtrue man!UTI is a beast of an album🤘🏻

@mikepratt6481 24 күн бұрын

I loved KFD!! W.A.S.P. always had a harder sound so I didn't think adding a little Industrial feel was too far from what they were. I put it up there with Alice's Brutal Planet as successful changes in sound, for at least one album.

@christianhansen2288 23 күн бұрын

I personally love k.f.d by Wasp. I remember at the time it blew me away. Still love it.

@lucaswilson1701 22 күн бұрын

You should do non Hair Metal bands that put out a hair metal album, or changed to hair metal for a few albums

@HairMetalGuru419 15 күн бұрын

Fuck, sorry for the late response... but that is definitely going in the list... thanks for the recommendation, Lucas!

@williamlevin239 24 күн бұрын

This is James great episode my favorite album from Warrent is Dog Eat Dog my seconed favorite Warrent is Ultraphobic Jani sounded killier like he always has one of my favorite singers of all time great video Anthony as always

@stephensanchez9590 23 күн бұрын

I agree with everything you said about stryper I am a huge fan since to hell with the devil and I must say reborn is a great album I bought it around the time it came out. Michael sweets vocals you are rite,he sounds great and he can sing just as great as he did back in the 80s an even though Timothy gains is not in the band anymore replaced by firehouse,their bass player left that band and joined stryper

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

michael sweet had a killer song in 1995 from the album of the same name. song was called "real". what a killer song.

@stephensanchez9590 24 күн бұрын

$60 for a t-shirt that is outrageous even at a concert no way would I pay that amount ,that's why I didn't go see motley crue, Def Leppard, and poison I thought the tickets were too high, I had my friend pick me up a t-shirt from motley crue and I should have gave him a limit because that shit was $50 and I think that was high

@user-ex9lb8mq1d 22 күн бұрын

Great episode check out a band called tommi Gunn album called toast of the town

@mikeb.7183 23 күн бұрын

The MC 94 album is a Top 10 90's record and would have been huge, had it not been called Motley Crue.

@Chaz4543 20 күн бұрын

It didnt fit in with what was huge in rock and metal in '94 so it wouldnt have matter. Hooligan's Holiday just isnt a hit song.

@ashesantics 24 күн бұрын

lets go!!

@HairMetalGuru419 24 күн бұрын

LFG!

@stephensanchez9590 23 күн бұрын

Reborn by stryper was a solid album I really like it

@Nothing4u489 23 күн бұрын

Maybe even Enuff Z Nuff? After the first two albums they never really got the rock edge back. Especially after Frigo left.

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

the tweaked album was a little different than the norm, and the production was awful (cmc records). the song "its too late" was insanely good though.

@davidstrong1850 21 күн бұрын

so Jeremy White throws on a head band and inhales some helium and now has an alias named Trevor.... ok.

@lakeportpictures4098 23 күн бұрын

Ultraphobic RULES! Jani Lane is the most underrated songwriter in metal and this is definitely some of his best work.

@TheMultiStanKpopFan 24 күн бұрын

I grew up with an awesome glam Rock/hair metal band called Ambush from Millville and Vineland NJ. I would send links of their KZfaq videos but I don’t think KZfaq will let me. KZfaq the following if you want to check them out. Ambush - on your knees Ambush - Play Ruff Ambush - still in love with you Ambush - I’m on fire Ambush - sos Ambush - Nowhere in Site Ambush - dreams They had the look, the songs, moved to LA too late and they never caught the rad wave. Curious to hear your thoughts. Can’t wait to watch this video. Love your content!!!!

@HairMetalGuru419 24 күн бұрын

Hey, thank you, Brother! I do have a Hair Metal Guru Facebook page--people message me there with links and stuff. But I will definitely check out these songs soon. And thank you for your support, seriously, I really appreciate it.

@TheMultiStanKpopFan 23 күн бұрын

@@HairMetalGuru419absolutely! Keep posting. Your channel is my new fav. I grew up worshipping hair metal and rock. My mom supported me in my quest for all things music and would go with me to all the concerts. She swooned over Brett Michaels lol. I played guitar in punk bands and was a trained classical guitarist. I wasn’t pretty enough to be in a rock group Lol. But anyway I love all music….my love for Warrant matched my love for death metal and thrash and doom and punk rock. I was someone who welcomed grunge and still love grunge. BUT….I openly loved it all. I still think it’s stupid that the genres couldn’t co-exist. Why couldn’t someone love Nirvana AND Enuff Z Nuff? Oh well. I happily listened to Obituary then popped on Poison and Tigertailz and then threw on some Morbid Angel and then some grunge and indie college rock bands. I love music not genres. The media made fans draw a line in the sand and it made bands do the same. I’ve been to over 700 concerts. Got to hang with so many groups and have enjoyed every second of it all. Curious what you think of Ambush. AND since you love like punk…check out the band Hagfish. Their album, “Rocks your lame ass” is all killer and no filler. It’s pop punk anthems. Anyway. Thanks for the content. Can’t wait for the next upload.

@scottcoburn3577 24 күн бұрын

I always thought KFD was a good musical direction for WASP to explore. For 1997 it's a great example of a hair band trying to sound modern

@misterknightowlandco 24 күн бұрын

Does WASP really fall under “hair metal”?

@tcb7098 24 күн бұрын

I liked native tongue. First 3 are my favorites still

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

after year of living with native tongue in 1993, it became my 2nd favorite poison album next to crack a smile. i love the great songwriting on native tongue.

@tcb7098 23 күн бұрын

@patrickreeves4650 yeah I liked crack a smile myself

@squeakycooler 23 күн бұрын

W.A.S.P. KFD is one their best. If you don't like heavier music you won't like it. It's simple as that. But that album truly rocks. And at the time they were out to prove to rip offs like Marilyn Manson that they were the most extreme band in the world. And if you look into what they did on that tour. You'll see that they proved it. That tour, they only came to a couple venues in the states. Because they weren't allowed to bring their stage show with them here

@stephensanchez9590 24 күн бұрын

That singer Steven Adler has is amazing

@Hwy13La 24 күн бұрын

With lead singers aside for the obvious , CC Deville is one of those guitarist that was his bands sound . Kotzen is some kind of special talent , followed his solo and the Winery dogs , but way way too roots for Poison. With that said , Theatre of My Soul and Fire and Ice are great on their own .

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

You are right . CC has a distinct tone 🤘

@keithcurley6760 23 күн бұрын

One band that comes to mind is a Canadian band called Sven Gali. First album from them is killer hand band. in the vein of Skid row. their second album 'In wire' is horrible, totally changed their sound.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

Yea their debut is awesome but never found the second , so maybe I’m glad I didn’t 😁

@trevor-johnsen 23 күн бұрын

Chris Van Dahl just put out a new record with Angels in Vain called "Long Time Coming". And put your "American Hardcore" bias aside because it's a SOLID rock album. It surprised me big time.

@TheSonsofHorusx 16 күн бұрын

Icon had a sweet debut album, then it was downhill. Lillian axe early stuff was great then they changed for the worse. Shotgun messiah debut was amazing, second album good, then went industrial and sucked. Loudness was a badass heavy metal band that went pop for a bit in the 80s and sucked. Got better after thought, same with Dead End. Enuff z nuff evolved but I like all iterations

@NYUK-x-4 23 күн бұрын

Poison's Native album, the song "Blind Faith" was the best off that album imo, it should have been the first single

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

I do dig that song a lot 🤘

@lovejoyb20 24 күн бұрын

So, does the shirt no longer fit the man, or the man no longer fit the shirt? Wildside's self-titled second album is definitely not Under the Influence, but if you separate them, it's pretty good. You can't expect anything resembling UTI when you take Benny and Brent out of the picture. I think the responsibility for the sound of that album falls harder on Tony Nicole Tony Records than it does on the band. You're both pretty aware of my Wildside bias though, so there's that. Very much like separating the Wildside albums, if you throw out the band name (and the previously established expectations that come with it) and just listen, Chinese Democracy is actually pretty good.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

I agree with your points 🤘

@user-yc4os8gi3k 23 күн бұрын

Eye 2 eye and humanity change alot

@droidgunner3840 4 күн бұрын

Danger danger said they were in fact influenced by the grunge

@stephensanchez9590 23 күн бұрын

As for as dokken goes shadowlife if you get thru it puppets on a strin,hard to believe, and bitter regret are really good in My opinion the rest not good I am a huge dokken fan I seen them 7-29-23 and I knew what to expect with Don's vocals and you are rite his voice is not very good but the music is great Jon Levin is an amazing guitarist,and the rhythm section of Chris and DJ is great and like you said anyone can look their recent concerts and people should know what to expect and yet they do get a decent size crowd and I would go again,I did see them in 2000 with poison,Cinderella,and that was great they had reb Beach at that time and donns voice was fantastic

@tcb7098 24 күн бұрын

Saw stryper, much heavier live

@Nothing4u489 23 күн бұрын

Shotgun Messiah

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

the sound change on violent new breed is amazing. that is one of the best albums of the 90's, and was ahead of its time.

@raygunromance772 24 күн бұрын

Detonator rules. American Hardcore is an embarrassment to the genre. Any genre really. Love Native Tongue, as well as Crack a Smile. Poison evolved in a natural way that made sense. It didn't feel forced or fake like so many others at the time. Plus they stepped up their game musically. Obviously the original chemistry with C.C. wasn't going to be the same, but they did such a killer job of not letting it drag them down in my opinion. Few bands can pull that off as well as Poison did at the time. They really don't get enough credit for it.

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

for a band like la guns...tracii had no business doing that record under the name. CMC only would release the record under that name, and Tracii knew he also wouldn't be able to get people to come see them if he didn't use the name. riley did it because there was no other gig for him to do. that album was terrible, and chris van dahl trying to act like a phil anelmo at the concerts was hilarious. he is not a tough guy, and he tried to be one. it failed.

@krashkoursemetalshow 23 күн бұрын

I really like crack a smile with Blues on guitar , super overlooked 🤘

@Nothing4u489 23 күн бұрын

Faith No More

@droidgunner3840 4 күн бұрын

Fun fact Krash is only 4 ft 9

@winstonslone2797 24 күн бұрын

Its the LA Gunns on the shit show. What a crock. Its funny you mentioned pantera there glam stuff was great. There is a video on here called all over tonight. Its like van Halen, early def leopard and Judas priest had a baby. Its killer

@winstonslone2797 24 күн бұрын

You don't dig Zepplin Guru?

@staceydavidblades29 24 күн бұрын

Thank you for the props guys! Krash- Time Bomb was actually the first single and video. That’s a trip you live by Roby! We chat ever so often, we had a shit ton of fun together when he was still in the band Love that guy! I wrote Time Bomb as I was trying to steer the band in a more modern direction at that time Kevin’s vocal is very cool on that track! Worked perfect Cheers guys

@LockjawEntertainment-qi5ty 23 күн бұрын

I am the actual Grunge Guru now that I think about it lol as well as the evil Ricky Rachtman ..The REAL grunge isnt Ntrvana ot PJ 1991+92..ITS their Sub Pop demos..TAD. SKIN YARD. MELVINS.L7.

@seangerant653 23 күн бұрын

tnt - firefly .....great cd !!................bruce Dickinson - skunkworks !!.....great cd !!,,,,,,,,,,,kiss - Carnival Of Souls.....dark and heavy .....i like it !!......Lynch Mob - smoke this .......everyone hates this cd and yes it is bad !!.......

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

tnt - firefly was an album i bought off the cuff, and didn't expect much from back in 1997. from the first notes of angels ride, i was shocked and blown away. tripping is a fantastic song.

@seangerant653 23 күн бұрын

@@patrickreeves4650 yes ....does not follow the 80s sound .......a dark cd ......"heavens gone" is great too !!!

@Chaz4543 20 күн бұрын

Skunkworks is great. I get why people always rank it near the bottom of his discography but its way better than that boring last album he put out.

@seangerant653 20 күн бұрын

@@Chaz4543 love it ....Skunkworks.......got it when it came out .........its different !!......but its still heavy !!!

@jeremylauer2939 23 күн бұрын

I special ordered that 2nd Wildside. Disappointment 101. Garbage. Same deal with L.A. Guns. I want to like it, but I just can't do it captain.

@patrickreeves4650 23 күн бұрын

that 2nd wildside came out my senior year of high school. my buddy and i cut school that day and drove all over portland, oregon in search of that album. finally found it after travelling all over, and popped it in the discman (the kind with the cassette tape that went in the tape player). good god that album was terrible.

@stephensanchez9590 24 күн бұрын

I am not a Ritchie fan for poison I rather hear CC DID NOT LIKE native tongue not my cup of tea now dysfunctional By dokken I like alot,shadowlife is different their are about 4 songs I really like the rest don't care for that wasmore a lynch and pilson project ,Don said in an interview he would not even put his dokken name the way it is on the rest of the albums

@LockjawEntertainment-qi5ty 23 күн бұрын

I have an idea to stop this madness.HMG cannot wear flannel ..I shall invoke the stench of RATT's tour bus 1986...