Banshee Review, Kings Island Bolliger & Mabillard Inverted Coaster | World's Worst B&M Invert?

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Canobie Coaster

Canobie Coaster

3 жыл бұрын

Banshee at Kings Island is the longest and fastest inverted coaster built by Bolliger & Mabillard. This invert features a unique layout with seven giant inversions and a brilliant use of terrain. That sounds good on paper, but I think Banshee is the worst B&M invert because of how it runs today. Find out why in this review!
Video Credits
Banshee Announcement (Sean Flaharty)- • Kings Island - Banshee...
Banshee Cedar Point (Sean Flaharty)- • Video
Banshee POV (Kings Island)- • Banshee at Kings Islan...
Mantis Off-Ride (coastercrutchfield)- • Mantis (Off-ride HD) C...
OzIris POV (Coaster Hipster)- • NO COPYRIGHT OzIris - ...
Son of Beast Demolition (Kings Island)- • Dismantling of Son of ...
Son of Beast Off-Ride (Sean Flaharty)- • Son Of Beast Off-Ride ...
Background Music
Track: Suspense Scary Music
Music composed and recorded by Oak Studios
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@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to note that this review was filmed after my 2020 rides. My rides that have taken place since have been much smoother and enjoyable.
@NecroVane
@NecroVane 3 жыл бұрын
I visit this park 2-3 times a year... literally NEVER had a rough ride, ever. In fact this is generally way smoother than the other invert in ohio, raptor at cedar point. Never even heard of this being a rough coaster from anyone i know. Very weird hearing that others have had consistent rough rides and rate it so low.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's train related.
@marvffin1677
@marvffin1677 3 жыл бұрын
Hey ride the beast LOL And youll find out what “rough” on a coaster means
@marvffin1677
@marvffin1677 3 жыл бұрын
I almost hit my head on my cousin ridding it
@brucegibson1813
@brucegibson1813 Жыл бұрын
@@marvffin1677 well of course, it’s an old wooden coaster dumbo
@marvffin1677
@marvffin1677 Жыл бұрын
@@brucegibson1813 why are you so sensitive. Plus this comment was 1 ago legit move on
@JamesonThomas24
@JamesonThomas24 3 жыл бұрын
I love the frequency of your videos. I feel like there’s always something new to watch!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@coasterhockygamingboy9549
@coasterhockygamingboy9549 3 жыл бұрын
IKR
@jking340
@jking340 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I literally posted my new video 2 1/2 hours ago called “This is Why Banshee is the Best B&M Invert.” I love this ride! The rattle isn’t bad at all.
@noahkessler5500
@noahkessler5500 3 жыл бұрын
Fr I never had a problem with this ride
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth rides on Banshee makes it a mid tier invert.
@jking340
@jking340 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I just think that with no pre-drop, so many massive inversions, and that insane in-line twist, it’s so much more unique and exhilarating compared to other inverts.
@noahkessler5500
@noahkessler5500 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I think I only rode it in the smooth blue train bc I had great rides on it. My mom rode after me and thought it was rough so that could be it.
@ethanhcomposer
@ethanhcomposer 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very polarizing invert. Some people love it and some people hate it. It depends on who you are!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It depends how its running to me.
@KIKoasterKid
@KIKoasterKid 3 жыл бұрын
I love the ride but a little rattle
@kylebetz9684
@kylebetz9684 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I’ve ridden on every train and the rattle doesn’t bother me, so I’d say it depends on preference too
@theninthheart4736
@theninthheart4736 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because it’s more akin to one of their fliers or wingriders than their typical inverts. They tried to do something different
@Mattia_Genuardi
@Mattia_Genuardi 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing some old footage of Son of Beast just made me wonder of what RMC could have done with such a massive structure...
@chachacharlieh6873
@chachacharlieh6873 3 жыл бұрын
The crappy RCCA structure would have collapsed on the first test run 😂
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It could have been an elite ride.
@lordmanshaft1112
@lordmanshaft1112 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not much, considering many of SOB's problems stemmed directly from cost saving measures related to limiting the number of concrete footers in high stress areas. Reusing footers is where RMC makeovers save millions. With RMC Ibox coasters featuring lots of negative Gs which = tension on the foundation, that limitation would probably be even more apparent
@quentk8886
@quentk8886 3 жыл бұрын
RMC sob would be great, but the structure kinda was the cause of all of SOB’s problems
@MD-bk8uy
@MD-bk8uy 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee is great, especially in the front row. The first drop in the back row is one of my favorite first drops! I never notice the B&M rattle on Banshee.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Some trains are fine.
@theninthheart4736
@theninthheart4736 3 жыл бұрын
The first drop in the back left is the greatest drop on an inverted coaster period. You actually get a stomach drop
@frannie1815
@frannie1815 2 жыл бұрын
I have never had a rough ride on Banshee. This is my first year riding it. I’ve ridden it in the front, back, middle, I’ve ridden on all the trains. I haven’t felt anything.
@joshlynch5676
@joshlynch5676 2 жыл бұрын
@@frannie1815 this is just bitching to bitch lol
@davidvironet6344
@davidvironet6344 Жыл бұрын
@theninthheart4736 nothing like looking at the back on someone's head what an experience.
@nateharrah3517
@nateharrah3517 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I always love seeing just how different everyone’s opinions are of this roller coaster. I think it’s an amazing ride and super fun, but I can see if some people are more into non stop intensity it wouldn’t be everyone’s favorite
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind rides that aren't super forceful. When comfort becomes an issue, I take issue.
@SuperHITMAN9000
@SuperHITMAN9000 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up riding mean streak....so riding Banshee was butter smooth for me lol...I don't understand what rattle or shakiness people are talking about....I rode at probably 4x so far and it's a great coaster
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
A lot is smoother than Mean Streak.
@jamessobczak5726
@jamessobczak5726 15 күн бұрын
Banshee is without a doubt starting to get rough. It was glass smooth at first. Ultimately the trains are directly at fault and not the track
@nickbaldwin8189
@nickbaldwin8189 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. I can't say i've had a bad run on it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Even a smooth ride is a mid tier invert for me.
@nonononononononononononononope
@nonononononononononononononope Жыл бұрын
I was at the TPR Banshee Bash the year this opened. Even that early in it’s life, the bash was dominated with conversations of how bad a brand new invert was rattling. Damn shame too, layout it great.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I agree the layout is awesome. It ran smoother for me in 2021 than 2020.
@Fazcoasters
@Fazcoasters 3 жыл бұрын
I think the roughness is because of the ground, KI always had a problem with B&M rattles because apparently, the ground isn't stiff enough, I think this same issue also contributed to Son of Beast's nasty ride.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Has this been confirmed the ground is different in some way?
@Fazcoasters
@Fazcoasters 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I think Coaster Studios mentioned it in his Orion review. He gave a better explanation than I did
@AirtimeProductions
@AirtimeProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I still have yet to ride a rough B&M! I think a lot of people like to complain about B&M’s coasters having roughness hence why B&M get hate- which is why I think they are underrated! Likewise this makes me think Banshee is another example of this... (I’ve ridden X-Flight which people claim to be bouncy yet it’s butter smooth)
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Most are fine.
@everyday_maycia
@everyday_maycia 20 күн бұрын
Rode Banshee for the first time wednesday before the incident occurred. I absolutely loved it, I didn’t experience a rattle, I rode on the teal train.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 15 күн бұрын
Glad it was running smooth and it was tragic what happened.
@everyday_maycia
@everyday_maycia 15 күн бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster it was unbelievable that i had rode it before it shut down for a couple days
@luralandoll6609
@luralandoll6609 Жыл бұрын
Rode Banshee today at season pass holder preview day. Even rode the teal train. No rattle, no chatter. It was my daughter's first time on it and she said it was so smooth!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It ran much better in 2021 onwards.
@RemixedVoice
@RemixedVoice 3 жыл бұрын
I love Banshee. I especially think the pretzel knot is so cool; in an industry that always uses the same cookie cutter loops and corkscrews and cobra rolls ad nauseam! I haven't ridden Banshee since 2015 though, so it's a shame to hear about the rattle trains.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
My smooth ride in 2020 was great but most beat me up.
@aninterestingpenguin9374
@aninterestingpenguin9374 3 жыл бұрын
I really don’t think the rattle on Banshee is nearly as bad as some people claim it to be. The pretzel element is also a lot more forceful than I think you gave it credit for.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the day and train.
@nycama
@nycama Жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster nonsense
@bandmfanboy
@bandmfanboy 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the rattle might have been because of the dirt at KI. I've heard some that have said that Orion has a slight rattle when it's literally brand new. I also have heard of Diamondback's rattle also, so I don't think the trains are the biggest problem.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Orion was smooth for me last year.
@ralelunar
@ralelunar Жыл бұрын
My favourite coaster, Nitro, is a victim of the B&M rattle 😔 One day, I'd like Six Flags to retrack it
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
The only shaky part for me with Nitro is the first drop pullout.
@UofLFan1224
@UofLFan1224 3 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is Kings Island's ground. All the the B&M's there have issues with a rattle. It's strange for sure
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say that is EXACTLY the issue! I've done commercial construction in Mason, and every site I've been on in Mason has terrible ground. In fact I heard one guy tell me on one of his sites they had to sink pilings into the ground to stabilize the structure due to how soft/unstable the ground is. But then again Im sure this isn't an issue just isolated to Mason. Mt. Adams in Cincinnati constantly has landslides.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Orion tracked smoothly to me.
@theninthheart4736
@theninthheart4736 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster it’s brand new
@theninthheart4736
@theninthheart4736 3 жыл бұрын
The rattle on diamondback is absolutely comical
@mithramusic5909
@mithramusic5909 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster i only got one ride on Orion so, grain of salt, but i think it's going to rattle too, and pretty quick. It didn't feel as glass smooth as Leviathan to me and i rode it in its first month.
@zachboothe6405
@zachboothe6405 2 жыл бұрын
The vest restraints really staple you to the seat and you feel every imperfection of the coaster. It has been running very well this year, signed a long time local.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it ran well in 2021.
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan 3 жыл бұрын
I don't find Banshee to be smooth but I also didn't think the rattle was terrible. I thought Diamondback's rattle was worse. The rattle is enough to knock Banshee down to my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu. Banshee has my favorite layout for an invert, but that's just my preference. I know not everyone would agree. I also love the vest restraints. I have had many issues with headbanging on B&M inverts in the past, so they were one-and-dones for me back then, except Montu. I have since gotten better at avoiding headbanging with B&Ms hard OTSR, so I can enjoy the others now as well, but it took some practice.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the rattle on Diamondback since it's only in a few valleys for a second. Banshee in a bad train rattles for a large chunk of the ride.
@DuecePiece
@DuecePiece 2 жыл бұрын
I've never felt any rattle on a B&M except a little while going down Diamondbacks first drop- and it's never bothered me or taken away from the experience at all. I love Banshee, not familiar with the rattle you mention- hope you get better rides on it next time!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
It rode well in 2021.
@denone5327
@denone5327 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t dislike Banshee, but I prefer the older, snappier B&Ms like Raptor or Kumba. Sometimes Banshee’s positive forces are too much for me and in the middle of the pretzel knot, I’m ready for the ride to be over. I rode it twice on opening day 2021 and it wasn’t as rough as it had been in 2020.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy Banshee's layout.
@Bigbluespoon
@Bigbluespoon 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I heard about banshee and Diamondback both have a rattle. Also thanks your channel is helping me update my list of things to ride and where to sit
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Diamondback shakes at the base of the drop but that doesn't ruin the ride.
@Bigbluespoon
@Bigbluespoon 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I’m not saying it does just saying what I heard
@mithramusic5909
@mithramusic5909 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I can't even re-ride this
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It's frustrating since some trains are fine.
@marvffin1677
@marvffin1677 3 жыл бұрын
I dont feel rattles i feel like im missing somthing or not normal
@kaboomer5727
@kaboomer5727 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee is my fourth favorite coaster of all time. I love it so much.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@JoshB333
@JoshB333 2 жыл бұрын
This was the first coaster I followed the construction of.. checking those livestreams everyday ☺️
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@badlycroppedalanschilke9531
@badlycroppedalanschilke9531 3 жыл бұрын
Have you read it this year? I dont know what they did, but although i might have agreed with you last year, this year the few rides i got on it were really smooth! It still has a slight rattle but i barely noticed it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to go back to Kings Island later this year so I hope it runs better!
@Joypyf
@Joypyf 2 жыл бұрын
The rattle can be quite bad 😕 Is the service looking road behind Banshee/Son of Beast where the animal section was in the 70s?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
It ran better in 2021 for me.
@KingWill04
@KingWill04 10 ай бұрын
I was just at kings island this past Labor Day and I thought banshee is probably the most intense invert I’ve ridden and that includes a pretty solid list. I loved it. Very smooth ride
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
I've heard it's running smooth this year.
@shadycharacter94
@shadycharacter94 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see this topping Montu for me when I get to ride in June, but damn is that a top 5 color scheme.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Montu is one of the best inverts.
@pixelythegamer3260
@pixelythegamer3260 3 жыл бұрын
Which New England woodies would you rank worst to best Wildcat Yankee cannonball Thunderbolt Excalibur Bolder dash Wooden warrior And roar o Sorus
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Best is Boulder Dash. Followed by Roar-O-Saurus, Wooden Warrior, Excalibur, Yankee Cannonball, Thunderbolt, and Wildcat (distant last).
@jaycillisfacial7391
@jaycillisfacial7391 4 ай бұрын
I used to consider this ride having a teeny little rattle, like in comparison to diamondbacks rattle that you can hardly notice. I had this same opinion for a while, and I even considered banshee better than Orion. Then, in 2023, I rode it a couple times, and it was ROUGH. I don’t know if I got bad rides mixed with bad luck, but I eventually started passing opportunities to ride it. Now I genuinely prefer invertigo over banshee. I can’t wait to get back to kings island this year and see if it’s smoother again, because I used to love banshee so much.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 4 ай бұрын
My 2021 rides (after this was made) were mostly smooth, but that's a shame you got bad rides.
@jardins43
@jardins43 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! My favorite B&M invert.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@mhtube01
@mhtube01 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised at the mixed attention Banshee gets. I rode it twice on my first ever visit to Kings Island in June 2019 and I loved it. My wife and I agreed it was the best invert either of us had ever ridden. Now I'm not saying I'm the most seasoned in riding B&M inverts but I've ridden a decent amount and I found Banshee tons of fun and smooth. I vaguely remember their being a slight rattle in some sections. I generally prefer wooden coasters to steel coasters though so I'm not going to complain about some steel coasters being more dynamic. I actually enjoyed Vortex and was sad to hear they were removing it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It really seems to be train related.
@urbex_coasters
@urbex_coasters 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found Banshee a little rough. I found it rougher in 2016 than 2017 so I think the theory that it has to do with the trains is likely correct, although I'll also mention the possability of it being the ground it's built on. Son of Beast was built on the same ground so that's the constant.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
I got good rides this year.
@urbex_coasters
@urbex_coasters 2 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster The inconsistancy probably has to do with the trains and how they're rebuilt in the offseason (as we know they are). The constant rattle is probably related to the ground the coaster sits on, and that same ground probably contributed to the roughness on Son of Beast too. It's nothing that makes it unridable but let's say I could not do multiple-ride ERT on Banshee without taking 15 minutes between rides.
@Austin_Wells
@Austin_Wells 2 жыл бұрын
I love this thing, but I too had one notably rough ride in the back row. I usually prefer the back due to the airtime you get being yanked over the main drop. What coaster forum is the most up-to-date/ would you recommend regarding KI to find out which train is janky? Will be visiting soon
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a season passholder group on Facebook? Those have helped me recently for different parks.
@Austin_Wells
@Austin_Wells 2 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I'm sure there is. Unless they got banned for disagreeing with Zuckerberg's favorite loop shape. FYI: it's "the lonely teardrop." Thanks again, CC!
@mythicgamingmk1105
@mythicgamingmk1105 9 ай бұрын
The B&M’s at Kings Island are the ones with the rattle but every other B&M does not have a rattle and if they ever did it might be the train wheels that might need to be replaced but most B&M’s are very smooth
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
I agree most B&Ms are very smooth.
@EnoughRhetoric
@EnoughRhetoric 5 ай бұрын
I normally ride inverts once for tge credit then move on as they’re not my cup of tea. But Banahee really wowed me when I finally got to ride it in 2022. It was butter smooth in the back row but also, that layout was great! Definitely the only invert I’d like to revisit.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 5 ай бұрын
It rode better in my rides after I made this review.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
How many trains did you find to have a shaky rattle between the purple one, the teal one, and the blue one?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
The ride was running smoother in 2021. I think it's train dependent.
@nickcube4
@nickcube4 3 жыл бұрын
I rode banshee in October 2019 and it was perfectly smooth. I wonder if I lucked out with the train or if they got all the trains running smooth that fall. I hope it's not rough next time I ride.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I got some bad rides in 2019 and 2020, but got a few good ones too
@TheSourNinja
@TheSourNinja 3 жыл бұрын
For whatever reason, I really feel like kings island is such a polarizing park and people judge the rides more because of that. In no way is banshee rough. Is it smooth? Of course not, but rough? No. The worst invert? Absolutely not. I respect the opinions of others, I just don’t agree at all and think people really judge kings island over harshly. Personally, I have ridden 3 inverts, Banshee, Afterburn at Carowinds and Raptor. I consider Banshee to be the best just barely over raptor and substantially over Afterburn.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee when smooth is a mid tier invert.
@mithramusic5909
@mithramusic5909 3 жыл бұрын
It's rough to me. I wouldn't discount people's opinion just because the park is polarizing. I'll genuinely get a headache if i ride it more than once. And it's not some kind of bias against the park because Diamondback doesn't have that problem and it's a great ride. Mystic Timbers is my favorite woodie I've ever ridden. But Banshee is just a rough ride
@Thuggysmurf
@Thuggysmurf Жыл бұрын
I've ridden Banshee a lot since this video (most recently in August 2022) and haven't noticed a rattle. Maybe they fixed it? This is my favorite U.S. B&M Invert, ahead of Montu, Afterburn, and Talon. Banshee even cracks my top 20 coasters overall. Love the experience it provides: 3 trains, friendly staff, quick dispatches, long ride, awesome first drop, nice scenery, and I can marathon it vs. I'm usually done after 2 rides on other B&M inverts. The trains on Banshee feel well designed - like B&M learned from past mistakes and listened to feedback. Usually if you sit anywhere but the front row on a B&M invert, your view is the support of the seat in front of you - not ideal, so the best seat by far is always the front row. But Banshee trains have 2 supports per row instead of 4, so you get a decent view in any row. I still prefer the front row on Banshee, but barely, as the back row is more intense but without the substantial "view" penalty like on other B&M inverts. My only complaint with Banshee is they still have a bunch of unused Son of Beast land. Add a B&M Wing in there Kings Island!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
My 2021 rides were smooth.
@doncasey732
@doncasey732 3 жыл бұрын
Row 2 this past Sunday was extremely smooth.
@doncasey732
@doncasey732 3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Lindgren Blue
@doncasey732
@doncasey732 3 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Lindgren I've tried narrowing it down by train but the "rattle" is so inconsistent that I think it has more to do with the weight distribution among the length of the train. Rows 4 and 5 accommodate bigger riders and I believe it's for a reason. Ops should direct larger riders to those rows if possible. Not an engineer or anything just a theory of mine.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I hope it rides better when I go back.
@suttonthebakervlogs6460
@suttonthebakervlogs6460 3 жыл бұрын
The 3rd seat in each row is butter smooth. Sit there, and it’s fantastic.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to give that a try
@isaactierney5132
@isaactierney5132 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed Banshee over Raptor. I’ve only ever had 1 ride that rattled to the point where I got a headache. Every other time has been very smooth, or had a slight vibration, but nothing bad. It’s one of my favorite B&M coasters!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I usually like this ride.
@SlimFury
@SlimFury 10 ай бұрын
Banshee is my number 1 B&M Invert, and my number 8 overall. I love high intensity and Banshee delivers. My only issue is the vest restraints, but not much as i just move around as needed.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
It rode better for me in 2021.
@maxhagenauer24
@maxhagenauer24 3 жыл бұрын
Iv ridden Banshee about 4 years ago and 7 months ago. Banshee was very smooth the first time I rode it but it sure had that rattle the second time. That B&M rattle doesn't bother me that much though. I remember this ride being pretty intense and overall, this ride imo is just so underated. It's not whippy like the other inverts on the inversions but the drop in the back has good whip. But this ride isn't like the other B&M Inverts, instead of whippy inversions, they are hangtime filled. And that uniqueness is just so different but so good. Having a streched out layout with 7 inversions and still strong positive Gs and ending it with an amazing hangtime filled in-line twist, this ride is just so different and such a creative layout.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind a shake here and there, but Banshee's rattle is worse in a bad train.
@andrewthomas9968
@andrewthomas9968 2 ай бұрын
Just rode this yesterday. It was smoother than Diamond back in my opinion. We sat in the back on both
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 ай бұрын
That's good to hear.
@ZPierce767676
@ZPierce767676 3 жыл бұрын
Man Banshee disappointed this weekend. Such a bad rattle this year.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
That stinks it's not riding well this year.
@gilbertceballos8674
@gilbertceballos8674 5 ай бұрын
This is my favorite invert I've ridden 😂 The drop is great. I didn't find it rough but there was a slight rattle. My rating: 1. Banshee 2. Montu 3. Top gun at carrowinds??? 4. Alpengeist 5. Silver bullet 6. Batman clone at sfmm 7. Batman clone fiesta texas 8. Batman clone seaworld san antonio 🙂 Raptor was closed during my 3 days last August:(
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 5 ай бұрын
It rode much better on my 2021 rides thankfully.
@zacg_
@zacg_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about your thoughts on Banshee vs Alpengeist. I find that I absolutely love Alpengeist in the front row but everywhere else I really don't like it. I don't find the difference to be quite as dramatic with Banshee between rows but I think they have some similar advantages and disadvantages overall.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
Alpengeist's first half is super intense and I find it's smoother more consistently.
@coasternerd6978
@coasternerd6978 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a funny story. I met a 6/8 coaster nerd at Kings Island one time and he was measured and was inches above the 6/6 limit but the op let him ride. He still made him take his shoes off probably to be extra safe. Unfortunately after getting off he couldn’t find his shoes but he saw a short person walking down the ramp with them. He confronted him and the thief jumped at his height, dropped the shoes, and ran. He was later thrown out. In my opinion if you see shoes that large lying around don’t steal them cause the owner likely isn’t a person you want to mess with.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
I never thought someone would try to steal shoes.
@coasternerd6978
@coasternerd6978 Жыл бұрын
I texted a bunch of people about it and they all said the same thing.
@lawnboy8461
@lawnboy8461 Жыл бұрын
I was at Kings Island 2 months ago and I rode Banshee 4 times my first 3 rides were in the purple train and it seemed very smooth, but when I took my forth ride I was in the blue train and it seemed a little rough but other than that Banshee is my favorite roller coaster at Kings Island next to Orion and Diamondback.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
It ran better for me in 2021.
@HoliestDoughnut
@HoliestDoughnut 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee's rattle is polarizing. When I wrote it it wasn't noticeable whatsoever, In fact I'd call banshee butter smooth. However, this was a few years ago. The size of banshee compared to other inverts is what makes it special to me. The 150-ft drop when paired with the 209-ft high difference makes this feel almost like a hyper inverting coaster. Every element takes ages to get through because its such a huge ride.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to be train related.
@antonytsai6611
@antonytsai6611 Жыл бұрын
If the inversions had more whip it seems like b and m is using different heart lining? Seems a bit less whipping compared to other inverts
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the Gs in the valleys are strong still.
@justiceleaguebattleformetr9239
@justiceleaguebattleformetr9239 3 жыл бұрын
I probably had the worst experience on this ride. I only got 1 ride in 2020, and I don’t remember which train it was. I do know that I was stuck with row 5 since the worker didn’t accept my request for the front. As a result, it’s my 2nd worst coaster I’ve ever ridden.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
At least the vests prevent headbanging.
@justiceleaguebattleformetr9239
@justiceleaguebattleformetr9239 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster true, but it still wasn’t a good experience by any means. I desperately need the front row of the blue train to get a better experience
@coasterhockygamingboy9549
@coasterhockygamingboy9549 3 жыл бұрын
1:04 “It always seems strange that the park didn’t have a full circut inverted coaster” *shows and off ride shoot of The Bat*
@nickcube4
@nickcube4 3 жыл бұрын
That's not an inverted coaster, it is a suspended coaster.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I view that one as suspended. I agree it hangs below the track.
@sakerocket
@sakerocket 3 жыл бұрын
The gp can't tell the difference tho. Just because you view it as this or that as an enthusiast that runs a channel on coasters.... Doesn't mean they were missing this before. ;) Good vid tho
@bonjernoorr
@bonjernoorr 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed similar shaking on Raptor that was really loud and made for a horrible ride. However, it was gone on my next visit. I assumed it had something to do with wheels that needed to be changed out, which they do several times a season. Maybe KI doesn't change the wheels quite as often as CP?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Raptor has always been smooth for me.
@invertedthrills144
@invertedthrills144 2 жыл бұрын
In 2019 I did not like this coaster whatsoever which was unfortunate because I've always loved loved loved b&m inverts. However, I got the chance to reride this a few weeks ago and now it's my #25 overall and I absolutely love it
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
It ran great for me this year.
@46lespaul
@46lespaul 10 күн бұрын
Ive riden every train just this summer alone and have never felt a rattle in fact its become a family favorite coaster. But thats the cool thing bout coasters each persons experience can be different
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Күн бұрын
I've gotten wildly different rides by year.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
What are the differences between those three colors, purple, teal, and blue?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
The ride was running smoother in 2021. I think it's train dependent.
@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037
@wickedsickfunkyfreshroller2037 3 жыл бұрын
I usually love inverts, especially the 7 inversion monsters, but this ride is a bit much for me. The valleys are super forceful and the inversions are very drawn out, these combined with the rattle make me pretty dizzy by the end. And it’s not helped by the vest restraints which really don’t belong on inverted coasters.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I do love the layout.
@RobertoBollijr
@RobertoBollijr 10 ай бұрын
This whole comment section is made up of angry KI fanboys lol. I've been going to KI for 5 years now, and every single time I get at least one unimaginably rough ride on banshee. As in, shaking my teeth out of my skull rough. I'm glad you have the courage to voice your honest opinion, thoosies just love KI/CP way too much.
@RobertoBollijr
@RobertoBollijr 10 ай бұрын
My home park is Kentucky Kingdom, and I can say with 100% confidence that apart from the thigh crushing, T3 was smoother than Banshee. And it's not even close.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
I got better rides in 2021, but the ones in 2020 were not ideal.
@karenburt8268
@karenburt8268 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I should try other seats to feel the rattle. I'm always in the front. Idk its tied for my favorite ride. I just don't like the tight feeling after the ride waiting to un load.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to be train related.
@roxynano
@roxynano 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to have great luck with Banshee as it is in my top 5 favorite roller coasters. The last ride I had on it was in 2019 and I had a great time on it! I’m nervous heading back as I don’t want Banshee to break my heart.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say to try multiple trains if needed.
@roxynano
@roxynano 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster I remember riding many different trains like the purple, teal, and blue and had no issues in 2019. And I (beeping) hate B&M rattles especially on Rougarou. (That’s a B&M shaker) Because of that shake, Rougarou is my least favorite coaster period. (Worst than any Vekoma I’ve ridden) It would break my heart if I re ride one of my favorite coasters then it turns into one of my worst coasters.
@mateoalvira3514
@mateoalvira3514 10 ай бұрын
How many trains are there on Banshee? Which colors are all the trains?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
3, purple, teal, blue.
@cfrankbii9613
@cfrankbii9613 3 жыл бұрын
Rattle has never bothered me. I'm not sure when that became such a thing for enthusiasts, but to each his/her own. Rough, as in headbanging, is a different story lol. My experience on Banshee in 2019 wasn't bad at all, but it just didnt do anything for me. The first drop was great though. I guess I prefer the 90s B&M inverts. They have an intensity that the newer ones don't imo.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I love the layout, but some trains seem to rattle very badly.
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan 3 жыл бұрын
B&M rattles can give bad headaches to some people. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it unfortunately does to me. That headache is the worst feeling to have for me. Rough woodies jackhammering don't cause me pain, but a strong B&M rattle does. I wish it didn't.
@leannafarmer1759
@leannafarmer1759 Жыл бұрын
Best ride at kings island hands down. I have vertigo and I have ride this several different times and it has no affect on it at all. Wooden coasters seem to have a lot worse affect on it. If given a choice between one coaster to ride through out the day this would be it. Also detected no rattle at all
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
The bad rattle I described in 2020 was not present in 2021 thankfully.
@marcussheen
@marcussheen 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, 6. Such a shame about the rattle though because the layout is so original. I hear a lot of people talk about the 'B&M rattle', but the only time I experienced it was on Black Mamba. It used to be one of my favourites, but one year it was totally unbearable, I came off seeing stars.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee is particularly frustrating since it varies so much by train.
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 3 жыл бұрын
The restraints are the biggest killer for me. Love Banshee, but I absolutely can not stand those stupid vest restrains!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
The vest restraints are fine to me. It's how it tracks.
@ohmygaga89
@ohmygaga89 2 жыл бұрын
I went to kings island yesterday. The rattle was loud but I honestly thought it went well with the theme. Because it does kind of sound like a scream
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
It ran well for me in 2021.
@indynugs
@indynugs Жыл бұрын
I love Banshee, don’t understand the hate some enthusiasts throw at it. Other than most so-called coaster enthusiasts hyper analyze every inch of a coaster and criticize the tiniest little bump, shake, or shimmy. Just sit back and enjoy the ride and be happy parks keep building these awesome machines.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
My 2020 rides were brutal, but I liked it again in 2021.
@Legendarygaming-wu5pc
@Legendarygaming-wu5pc 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I had a real rough ride yeah banshee is rough but my ride was much rougher then you would think. It was rough like the Boss at Six Flags st louis! I find the Batman clones to be better then Banshee
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Banshee has a good layout
@timhunter1214
@timhunter1214 5 ай бұрын
Y'all are DRAMA about the "rattle". You make it sound like a Vacoma SLC.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 5 ай бұрын
My rides since I have made this review have all been pleasant.
@austinwoods5858
@austinwoods5858 3 жыл бұрын
The shaking and tight vest restraints ruined it for me. Definitely my least favorite invert
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It has a lot of potential if smooth.
@thenuccichannel5742
@thenuccichannel5742 2 жыл бұрын
I rerode it last weekend and there was a vibration but it didnt ruin the ride but i felt like it kinda lacked intensity outside of 2 moments
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
It ran smoothly for me this year.
@parkersparkreviews2394
@parkersparkreviews2394 Жыл бұрын
Kings Island isn’t far from my house and I ride Banshee all the time. The rattle never bothered me much and it always takes me by surprise when people call it rough. Regardless, it’s still my least favorite invert because the elements are too drawn out to do much for me. I prefer smaller, more compact inverts for the whippy and feet ripping inversions.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
2020 was the worst year for it. It was fine in 2021 when I rerode it.
@schumi246
@schumi246 2 жыл бұрын
So, it’s the closest thing to a inverted hyper coaster with the difference in the highest and lowest points??
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
Alpengeist is close on height alone.
@Harrys.Truman-fanpage
@Harrys.Truman-fanpage Ай бұрын
I hate being a coaster enthusiast with motion - sensitivity, the rides layout is amazing but I wish B&M fixed the rattle on these things
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Ай бұрын
It was better on my rides after this was filmed.
@mikeham73
@mikeham73 Ай бұрын
I rode it twice yesterday and it felt like it was going to rattle itself apart. Unsurprisingly it was a walk-on all day. Cedar Fair needs to fix it because it didn’t use to be this way.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Ай бұрын
It seems so hit or miss.
@jackknueve4645
@jackknueve4645 3 жыл бұрын
I rode the teal train in the back this year and it was smooth, whereas last year it was awful. I think they must’ve done something over the off-season
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It really shows how important the trains and when you ride Banshee is.
@jackknueve4645
@jackknueve4645 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster oh yeah last year when I rode the teal train I would’ve ranked it below Invertigo, it was that bad
@wharfier
@wharfier Жыл бұрын
I don't find it rough at all. It's actually my favorite inverted coaster. Actually my favorite all around. To me the "roughest" B&M is Incredible Hulk at Univerals Islands of Adventure. And that's after the rebuild.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Жыл бұрын
Banshee ran smooth for me in 2021 thankfully.
@maybeifyoustannedloona
@maybeifyoustannedloona 3 жыл бұрын
waits for banshee are always long the days i go. then again, i normally go at the start of the season.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Ah.
@EastCoasters
@EastCoasters 3 жыл бұрын
3/4 of of the time this thing just doesn’t do it for me! Dunno why, It’s very temperamental but beautiful to look at.🤌🏽
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I do love the layout.
@First-Drop-Studios
@First-Drop-Studios 10 ай бұрын
I don’t mind the roughness on banshee, but my thighs and the surrounding areas were completely crushed. It completely ruined the ride and that’s honestly really sad, because the layout is one of the best on any invert. Especially when the crew was in no rush for checking restraints and I was stuck on the brakes for 3-4 minutes, practically suffocating.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that.
@everwilkins3158
@everwilkins3158 3 жыл бұрын
I rode Banshee just three days ago and I did get the blue train so I did not notice anything except that slow twist made me scream so hard my friends in front of me heard it.
@everwilkins3158
@everwilkins3158 3 жыл бұрын
I do also love shaky wooden coasters so maybe I just did not notice it since I have fun on adventure express.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I love that twist.
@everwilkins3158
@everwilkins3158 3 жыл бұрын
It was my first time writing and and I just wasn’t prepared for that twist
@WapoStudios
@WapoStudios 3 жыл бұрын
No rattle on Banshee will compare to the car crash that was Raptor in 2020. To this day it’s the only coaster that has made me sit down for awhile after one ride. Truly awful.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! It was smooth for me in 2019.
@OklahomaCoasterFan
@OklahomaCoasterFan 3 жыл бұрын
I've had smooth rides and horribly rough, headbanging rides on Raptor.
@mitchellries256
@mitchellries256 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow this ride lost to Flying Turns at Knoebels for best new 2014 ride. But if that ride wasn't in the poll, which coaster do you think would've won? This or Goliath at Six Flags Great America?
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Probably Goliath.
@Ohiocoasterenthusiast
@Ohiocoasterenthusiast 9 ай бұрын
This is a 9 outta 10 little rattle on some trains crazy pacing and great layout best invert in Ohio
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 9 ай бұрын
I like the layout. The rattle I've gotten in the past was very bad.
@tjmthegreat4009
@tjmthegreat4009 3 жыл бұрын
I love this invert!!!
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I love the layout.
@ArthurTerry-we1uv
@ArthurTerry-we1uv Ай бұрын
From outside the park the size of this coaster is intimidating wait till you go there it's massive like alpengeist at Busch gardens
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster Ай бұрын
It has quite the presence.
@alantrotter2077
@alantrotter2077 3 жыл бұрын
Our opinions are very similar with Banshee. My 2020 ride on Banshee wasn't good. It was in the back row and it jack hammered all over the place. Pre 2020, I really enjoyed Banshee and it was my second favorite B&M invert, but if it keeps riding this way it will be my least favorite in the US.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
It's frustrating because the layout is so good.
@alantrotter2077
@alantrotter2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanobieCoaster The drop is incredible and the I love the last inversion. I agree. I will be watching which train I get more closely if I go in 2021, which looks like it will be the case in late August.
@RedHitMarker1
@RedHitMarker1 2 жыл бұрын
banshee made me grey out twice, almost thrice. This thing is a powerhouse, I'm convinced if that pretzel knot was just a little bit faster or tighter, I would've blacked out.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 2 жыл бұрын
The ride definitely has good forces and it ran smoothly last year.
@MrCrash-hz8xy
@MrCrash-hz8xy 3 жыл бұрын
This situation reminds me of steel phantom. Some loved it and some hated it.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
Except that was an issue with the profiling rather than specific trains.
@JacobB451
@JacobB451 3 жыл бұрын
The restraints absolutely ruin it for me. Those vests don't give off the same intensity as a normal OTSR would. It's a shame, Banshee could have been world class.
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the vests.
@amareleggette35
@amareleggette35 11 ай бұрын
i did not have a bad ride when i went earlier this month i love the back row 8 anyday
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jaydenchrist6152
@jaydenchrist6152 3 жыл бұрын
Dam worst B&M invert I defently dont think that but i respect your opinion. I'm acually fine with rattles they dont bother me and banshee has great elements so yea 2nd best invert in my opinion after Montu
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 3 жыл бұрын
When smooth, it's a mid tier invert.
@ThrillsofColdplay
@ThrillsofColdplay 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how this would be if it was built in the 90’s it would definitely be whippy
@CanobieCoaster
@CanobieCoaster 7 ай бұрын
Probably.
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