5:09 “bare shafting is just something you never really explored.” my 2 kids say otherwise
@mgaus4 жыл бұрын
More hunters ought to learn a little physics. As a late in life hunter who's always been a tutor and teacher, I love seeing the physics understanding behind all of the gear tinkering and strategy.
@CarlosRamirez-kq2bd3 жыл бұрын
Troy I have learned so much from you. I did what you said building high f.o.c. arrows, the poor man's way. Due to a shoulder injury I switched from a 60-70 lb bow to a 50-60 lb bow. I took the arrows (cx300) for 60-70 bow and 8 .22 caliber lead pellets, for a pellet gun, swaged the skirts open and glued eight of them together head to tail. Each skirt on the pellet was slightly larger than the i.d. of the shaft. I took a wooden dowel and pushed them down to the back end of the insert. With 125 grain Broadhead or Field Point. I got slightly over 23% FOC. Arrows truly fly like darts off of my Hoyt Prohawk @53-55 lb with a 29"drawlength. I did the same thing with some inexpensive no name carbon arrows for my Mongolian horse bow @ 50lbs. 225-250gr seems to be the sweet spot like you said, I don't know why but it is. I am a disabled veteran with a very small fixed income I can't even afford to hunt now, but I'm grateful for you and your Channel. I have spoken to my friends about Dr. Ashby and the ranch fairy Channel. Thank you so much for the inspiration, if at some point I can afford to hunt one day, I will be sure to let you know how it turned out. Keep putting out those awesomely informative videos. God bless and take care.
@richarddean31544 жыл бұрын
Great video. My tuning steps: 1) get the arrow pointing straight in the rest, 2) shoot up close, 3) shoot far away, 4) adjust rest as required. I like Mr. Ranch Fairy's simple methods - the proof is in the results. Ted for President.
@markr.15474 жыл бұрын
Troy the Ranch Fairy is awesome! He guided me through the process of changing to a higher FOC arrow and would respond to my questions or results very quickly! Sometimes faster than going through your local fast food drive thru! Remember there is the ranch fairy test kit available with the different weighted tips to see what weight your bow likes. I went to a 300 spine arrow and 250 grains up front so I went with the 100 grain brass insert and 150 Magnus Ser Buzzcut.... mini spear!
@stevepauley24373 жыл бұрын
What is your draw length and poundage, just out of curiosity?
@timbow503 жыл бұрын
Seriously, a great simple informative video. Years ago there was little to no heavy inserts. I used to epoxy brass rod pieces to the end of the point insert. I did make the pieces exact in weight with the insert on the weight scale to get exact measurements. 50-75-100 grain plus the insert to within 1/2 grain. Back then bareshaft tuning was really not well practiced but grouping was the goal. I did try nock tuning some as I shot a whisker biscuit so it didn't matter. There weren't any fancy drop away rests. Mechanical broadheads weren't invented. Two and three blade fixed was about all there was. Fletchings were either very small for basically indoor or 3 to 4" for hunting and in retrospect they were pure junk. The goal then was to keep hits in a 3" circle at 30 yards was excellent results. We all just figured nearly everything we shot was around 30 yards. And in reality a 5" or 6" area is usually in the " kill zone ".
@briandurbin44944 жыл бұрын
28” 300 spine @60 lb 150 brass insert 125 Montec works for me. Great video, great advice!
@EA.714 жыл бұрын
That was off in two ways...off the chain education!! And around 13:40 was off your rocker! You're nuts RF, I love it! Thanks THP!!!
@AndrewLakey3 жыл бұрын
300 spine, 225 gr up front, 19% FOC is absolutely a sweet spot. That has been my setup for many years, nothing but stellar results.
@thomasanderson17834 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this in a way I could understand it. Not all of us have 1300 dollar bows. I don’t! This was cool!
@jaycollum24764 жыл бұрын
That slot mo shot of the bareshaft arrow coming out was incredible, pulls all the things Troy is talking about together
@ejsocci26302 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great old school.🏹
@marklaskowski53684 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The slow motion clips really show arrow in flight and what it looks like tuned vs not tuned.
@timkaldahl4 жыл бұрын
It appears that Ted's bow hand could be a little bit more relaxed. It doesn't look like a death grip, but he could be introducing torque with a closed grip.
@joehorton014 жыл бұрын
I wish these videos were like 4 hours long.
@EA.714 жыл бұрын
I sat in a tree 11hrs and 45 mins one time. I can't do no 4 hr video though! But I see what you mean, it's good stuff!!
@philmcafee3434 жыл бұрын
Your wife doesn’t ! 😂
@joehorton014 жыл бұрын
@Jason Johnson hahaha im 36 dumbass.🙄 I havent lived with mommy in many many moons.
@Jordy_joefishes1223 жыл бұрын
I wished they can make more videos of them buying bows and a lot of accessories but there ain’t no point of buying a new bow
@stick__shooter4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Similar results with my Bear Status and my Bear Legion single cam before that. 65 pounds, 28.5 draw, 300 spine with 225 to 250 up front flies great!
@ShaneSimpsonHunting4 жыл бұрын
I think I have my final FOC setup finalized, thanks to RF's help, but I think I will film it in slow-mo to see how it's actually flying. Keep the vids coming y'all!
@Jimmy445able4 жыл бұрын
I’m a first timer at this but I started tinkering with my arrows after watching RF and I filmed it in slow mo on my phone. It really seemed to help me pick the best point and shaft especially since I didn’t have a rig to paper tune with.
@justinmailloux5494 жыл бұрын
Love seeing your comments on this channel Shane. You all have good things to teach, even to each other. You, The Hunting Public, Ranch Fairy, Average Jack Archery, Catman Outdoors, DIY Sportsman, and The Hunting Beast are just about all my subscribed channels, and Born and Raised Outdoors for the Elk tips and hunts. Keep it up Shane, this community is awesome and moving hunting in a positive direction. Thank you for what you do.
@ShaneSimpsonHunting4 жыл бұрын
@@justinmailloux549 appreciate it man! Your fav channels pretty much match mine. 😁
@johnsailor62602 жыл бұрын
Ted is always so quiet. Not the "I know" type. Somebody raised him right. I'm 51, and have a lot of respect for them. Class act Hunting Public, keep it up! ..You too Troy, Ha..Ha..Ha
@j.cooper22464 жыл бұрын
Nooooo. Its the hat!!!!!! Teds proved that..love the channel boys. Thanks
@tylerjones18144 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the info and this is a tuning method that the average dude can manage. Definitely snorting the fairy dust
@UncleBob3693 жыл бұрын
I was trying to order a couple 250/300 spine arrow and found I could only purchase by the dozen! That's a couple hundred bucks for something I would only use a couple of out of a dozen. i remembered hearing Ranch Fairy saying something about "Ranch Fairy test kit" so I Googled it and found it. Two of 250 spine arrows two 300 spine arrows nocks and inserts plus field points in different weights for testing. Awesome! Thanks RF!
@tarheeloutdoorexcursions55803 жыл бұрын
Lots of great information and thanks for sharing. After this season has ended I will start the process of moving to this type of arrow setup.
@DS-vo8me4 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting 2 years strictly target making the move to live target & wanted to learn about arrow selection I learned more about bow set up in 2 videos from you than I learned the 2 years of research & shooting .
@archeryonly56294 жыл бұрын
Grant and ranch fairy look like twins with the visors ! 👍
@agi65214 жыл бұрын
Ted's shooting a whisker buscuit......Imagine that!!!
@mohunter683 жыл бұрын
Back in the early days this is why we paper tuned our bows, the tear in the paper would show you if you had perfect arrow flight or not off the arrow rest. Ranch's way makes a lot of sense as well because it shows you how well or not well your arrow is flying further down range. That extra pt. wt. made all the difference in the world.
@sed6 Жыл бұрын
Paper tuning is the next step you take after bareshaft tuning.
@joshk9195 Жыл бұрын
@@sed6 In my opinion that is not true. Why would you bare shaft then go back to paper? Paper will help you adjust spine and bow to get bare shaft or fletched arrow bullet hole. Then you can go to distance and shoot bare shaft and fletched shaft to make micro rest and/or spine adjustments to get them hitting together and straight. The paper is just to make sure your arrow is not getting launched out of your bow sideways before shooting it at distance. You can then go on to group tuning or broadhead tuning depending on the arrows purpose
@jchris38414 жыл бұрын
Ted shoots well. I’m looking forward to tinkering with a stiffer arrow spine and heavier broadheads. Thanks for teaching me!
@carternotogooglespying68564 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't argue with accuracy success, however he definitely chokes his grip. I got to think it's 70 or 80 yards he's going to have enough bow torque to have Broadhead planing out....
@delculbertson23694 жыл бұрын
I liked the comparison of hitting a nail with a hammer and the way an arrow leaves the bow. Great shooting Ted! Now, I'm ready to see you put some bacon on the ground! Good luck guys and stay safe! Cubby
@strawnoutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I started the process a couple weeks ago and went from a 380gr arrow with 8% FOC to 510gr arrow with 17.5% FOC! Cannot wait to take it in the woods this fall!
@johndenver5029 Жыл бұрын
How you feeling 2 years later?
@strawnoutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@johndenver5029 I have kept around the same number just changed arrow and broadheads for tinkering purposes! Still running around 15% FOC! How’s your setup?
@ewoknative2 жыл бұрын
built some arrows last year 575 grains with a 350 spine and a 3 degree right helical. 70# draw at 28” every fixed 3 blade had a slightly left or right pull. granted could have been me, always except human error. the only thing i have changed this year is going to a 250 spine you will not be disappointed! i even drop down to 65# draw. this years arrow build was:- (sirius archery “volcon” 250 spine 100gr insert AAE max 2.6 fletching and a fixed blade 125gr). 15% foc total of 617gr. first knock tuning grouping at 20yrds i was damaging fletching. it’s not rocket science but but before hearing of doc. ashby and ranch fairy i was always hesitant and wondering if i was making/ taking a good shot even if it was a perfect situation. good job guys keep up the good work!!!!
@mattwilliams30103 жыл бұрын
Appreciate common sense advice & humor from a life long sportsman... Thanks RF
@bmcdoobie8354 жыл бұрын
A wrist sling and a relaxed grip will tighten things up.
@harlanpooley29074 жыл бұрын
Shooting GT Hunter Pro 300 with 100g insert and 150g tip 28.5 inches. Rock-solid. Missed the target in the basement at 12 yards and hit the concrete wall (don't ask why). Arrow shaft was still good. The insert slipped forward from the shock. Tapped it back in and ready to go.
@paulcrave31124 жыл бұрын
In that slow motion video of that first bare shaft shot, you could see the arrow was flying towards the target sideways when it hit the other arrow. At the end of the video, you could see the heavier bare shaft arrow was flying pretty sideways too when it hit the pig and wobbled back and forth a lot.
@joshk9195 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the arrow flight did not seem great with either setup. Seems like the bow may be a bit out of tune
@wbates7974 жыл бұрын
Helical through a whisker biscuit? Great seeing ole Troy showing how high foc works! Kudos guys to the last few videos including this one! Nothin better than seeing the 2 best KZfaq channels working together! It’s great to see guys preaching broadhead sharpening and arrow tuning!
@timl8302 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's scary.
@Mackahroney3 жыл бұрын
Just built my sirius apollos 300 grain with 225 up front and they fly beautiful with my new ventum 30. Bareshaft tuning is a must!
@justinmailloux5494 жыл бұрын
I would like this video series 1000 times if I could.
@reaganriddle2 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning that FOC also helps accuracy. If you took a broomstick and put a weight on the end of it and threw it, it’ll fly straighter than if the weight wasnt there.
@davidfleer53074 жыл бұрын
Got some 200 grain cutthroats and they group better at 30-40 yards then my field points what’s up with that Troy , I guess I better stop playing now total weight 743 grain 31.5 draw length 65 pounds pull Day Six arrows ✌🏻👍🇺🇸
@northeastathlete23764 жыл бұрын
I use a 100 grain insert and actually use an excalibur boltcutter broadhead (they are meant for crossbows, a little shorter blades but a full 150 grains). Helical vanes, broadheads shoot just like the field points
@Ranger_Hunting4 жыл бұрын
I loved this video I have the same draw and weight of bow and did the same setup and it worked awesome im hitting tacks with my fixed broadheads at 50 yards!!
@terrynicewonger5434 Жыл бұрын
I Appreciate Ranches Fairy’s Time invested in the entire process… Ranch Fairy needs to Write a Updated Book
@ApexPredatorOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Great info 👍. Ashby doesn't lie. No matter how you build it, FOC is king.
@justsomesaltyboi87164 жыл бұрын
bows have fascinated me much more than guns in terms of physics. definitely looking forward to getting my first bow to use all around for hunting all over the country! (might not happen but it would be cool!)
@richmerlo27693 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip for tuning , thanks.
@the.reel.mccoy.4 жыл бұрын
I tuned my breathing with his.
@Jtown45912 жыл бұрын
Shot a hog for the first time two weekends ago. Absolutely DESTROYED the liver with a rage broadhead. Ran 30 yards and dropped. Not a single ounce of blood on the ground and it did not pass thru. Ordered a 6 pack of single bevel iron wills that night. Skinning that hog it was utter carnage in the chest cavity but no blood anywhere on the ground. Hoping to have better luck with the iron wills.
@bjcoveney53064 жыл бұрын
Love having a golf bag...490,714, and the big boy....
@jamesbogart70134 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for for deer season
@davidknoble12014 жыл бұрын
This video was awesome! Last year i purchased the same bow ted has... (Bear Species). Took down 2 deer last year with it but with this info i believe i will be taking down more this year. Thanks guys! 🏹
@fattybourgeois10144 жыл бұрын
You guys have always been there for the working man's hunt
@cjr44972 жыл бұрын
I like how he spray painted where the pig vitals actually are. They are much more forward than that of a deer.
@johnschmit9944 жыл бұрын
Great information!! I like the step by step process makes it easier to understand for us simple folks. Maybe Ted should try and relax his hand his bow when he shoots?
@ethanh49734 жыл бұрын
Your pretty much always going to apply a little bit of torque, and bareshaft tuning will exaggerate that. Plus they were shooting in the wind which causes even more pressure in the grip
@nicktatum30084 жыл бұрын
I hope there are more pig hunts coming!!! Can’t wait until the 2020 Deer Tour announcement and videos. Only 62 more days until Kentucky opens.
@djackson11204 жыл бұрын
I know you guys have lives, but we want more!! Lol. Keep it up fellas
@kendallinman6064 жыл бұрын
Love the arrow tuning
@curtisj.pacejr.5794 жыл бұрын
Lots of great information. I'm old school, taught a new set up which I am going to try. Going to be using this setup or close to it.
@Camp-run-a-muck4 жыл бұрын
Dont know if mentioned, need a Hunting Public and Ranch Fairy combo t-shirt made. Enjoying the results and series on the RF test ranch.
@jlbland4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Also love my Sirius arrows. Been shooting them since the company started. They hit like a tank.
@tobywilliamson52134 жыл бұрын
Troy sent me some info today and I ordered a test kit , pretty excited to get a better foc arrow
@kennycarpenter89614 жыл бұрын
Great info. I've been thinking about building up a heavier arrow. Really close to my specs too. Thanks!
@nataliedeyton68294 жыл бұрын
I have watch a lot of hunting things over my 30 years of hunting and NOT 1 person has made as much Sense as the OL Ranch fairy..... crazy or not the dude makes tooooo much sense. If you just sit and think about his approach it make perfect sense..... you wanna shoot a deer with a 55gn 5.56 or would a 300gn 45-70 do better ? 😂 yeah no baby weights for me 👍
@alphapapa53834 жыл бұрын
Thats sort of a strawman though. The emphasis on speed is normally to offset the animals reaction to the sound of the bow. Whether 556 or 45-70, the animal has no chance of reacting, its simply not a concern. As far as killing potential, KE is an almost universal standard. Speed is squared in this equation, mass is not.. I said all this to agree that LESS emphasis should be placed on speed, and more on literally every other factor involving arrow/bh performance. The "problem" is more nuanced than just "use a 700 gr arrow". There's a middle ground, and a lot of it is personal preference.
@zeroedinwithzeke40594 жыл бұрын
Alpha Papa Heavy arrow=less noise= delayed reaction time so it’s all the same.
@masterkysar4 жыл бұрын
The fairy has me just a touch shy of 700 grains. Adult arrow no flappers. Super quiet and very deadly!!!
@alphapapa53834 жыл бұрын
@@zeroedinwithzeke4059 I have thought that, and agree with the logic. Heavier arrows should result in less wear to vulnerable components as well. I would like to see a deer react to a "heavy" compound set-up compared to a "heavy" recurve set-up. I dont own one but every one I've seen was eerily quiet with seemingly ordinary set-ups.
@mikecarr94904 жыл бұрын
So awesome, the guys from my 2 favorite channels all together
@michaelbruns38704 жыл бұрын
Last video was such a hit that Innovative Outdoorsman sold out of sharpening jigs in like two days! Unfortunately, that was before I could order one myself haha
@joehorton014 жыл бұрын
Haha. That sucks
@jendro12124 жыл бұрын
Nice i bought mine and will get them tomorrow
@TheKajunkat4 жыл бұрын
That's the great thing about America. They will always make more!
@dieterwitt49653 жыл бұрын
Troy. I also think your a great ambassador for archery. If you ever want to come hunt in Canada. I will email you my information.
@haskelljackson72294 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, can’t wait for deer season !!
@pippencreekproductions4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that Texas humidity’s getting to Jake a little bit. At least you know the microphone works. 👍🏼😂
@MikeyWoomer4 жыл бұрын
I had a set up off so far that when I shot a bare shaft the arrow snapped haha. This is one of my must do to tune my bow now. That and walk back turning. If I get those two things just about perfect and I get my ezv lined up right.. I cant shoot the same target twice or I'll blow my arrows up out to 50 yards.
@Waty84134 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of guys are going to get the wrong impression that all that is ever needed is to swap around heads until you find the shaft and point combo that flies like magic. People need to realize that you may need to tweak your yokes, control cable, etc. Even the timing on you drop-away rest can affect flight. Having your bow in specs and your rest centered and arrow squared is not necessarily enough.
@Bob-ti9hz4 жыл бұрын
Great trip/video THP. Another of the little known guys. Ranch Fairy seemed a little off tune when I first saw him. Now that he's slowed it down a bit. the guy makes perfect sense. Pays to do your homework. Going to switch it up. You guys are bringing it. Thx
@999gloryhog Жыл бұрын
Thats a Whisker Biscuit!
@jameshunt79723 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video holy shit.. thanks for demystify 20 years of confusion for me.
@kevinb63964 жыл бұрын
I used a similar arrow for my 28/60 bow. Worked like a champ. I did use Quickfletch, which unfortunately at 50 gr total weight, kept my FOC at 13%. Blazers or feathers would have kept the FOC higher.
@elsenoutdoors30054 жыл бұрын
I love you guys, keep it up
@TheHuntingPublic4 жыл бұрын
Love you too 😘
@EA.714 жыл бұрын
@@TheHuntingPublic whoa...no kissing
@mikesanford13854 жыл бұрын
You will never regret learning this keep it up thanks
@joshuasherman99674 жыл бұрын
The music that you guys play is awesome. But... Was wondering if you guys had some music from Teds band lol
@EA.714 жыл бұрын
Yea I wanna hear em too
@sethstrickland37394 жыл бұрын
Hey to the hunting public you’ve influenced me so much and I know you probibly get a lot of comments of people asking you questions but I am 17 years old and watching your videos has influenced my hunting style greatly I just graduated high school and with all this covid stuff it has made my plans for life go crazy I’ve got to wait at least a year and a half to even start college for a electrician degree or I could just start working but I just watched the “how we make money” podcast and it has influenced me to start a KZfaq channel not because I want the money but because I love hunting and fishing and really want to be able to share the memories with my kids all the fun I had when I was 17 years old like my dad did with me but he had to do it with pictures and stories and I want to be able to show my real expressions threw video what is your best advice as far as cameras to buy and KZfaq in general
@TheHuntingPublic4 жыл бұрын
Canon g30 is a good starter camera. We also use a Sonya6500 for vlogging and a Sony x80 for filming game
@kylebailey84982 жыл бұрын
I think the last two slow motion shots of teds arrows new and old looked exactly the same!!
@Orr_s4 жыл бұрын
Only thing here is you severely limit speed and have a chance of the animal moving and making a bad hit by the time it gets there. Unless of course you are cranking poundage up, but thats the beauty of all the tinkering you can do with Archery hunting setups lol endless possibilities. And with these setups you just wanna keep it 20yards and under. So it limits you, its only an issue when people dont realize that and start pushing 25 yards and out with those light poundages and heavy setups
@chrischristenson35194 жыл бұрын
You need to help Ted with his grip on the bow. Get the angle of his grip down the life line and relax the bow hand.
@davidfleer53074 жыл бұрын
Chris Christenson agreed death grip but it looks like it works, Ted shoot 40 yards and it may show it face then🤔
@cdp503594 жыл бұрын
His group's are great and he is consistent. Don't ever kick a sleeping dog
@chrischristenson35194 жыл бұрын
@@cdp50359 With all that they do to help and teach others, I just thought I would pass on some knowledge.
@seanlebourveau65984 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff. I've had so many broken arrows with low penetration. Mostly dead deer but this stuff makes alotta sense
@paulshumate29044 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff guys!!! That arrow is gonna bust thru alot of animals!!!
@billmcconnell17374 жыл бұрын
Black Hornet Ser Razors has been filling my freezer for years. Great flick
@J155P4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Would've liked to see a slow motion of the final arrow setup to see if there was less arrow wobble.
@the.reel.mccoy.4 жыл бұрын
Man do I love Magnus broadheads haha
@jennikoetje89134 жыл бұрын
Happy 5th of the 4th fellas God bless America
@jerrywhite88103 жыл бұрын
Great. Thank you guys!!!
@jonbrown94904 жыл бұрын
I would think( and maybe it's my ignorance) that you should shoot the field point first and the broad head second. The field point is known to fly more accurately...if you can't repeat the shot with the broadhead then you'd know your flight is off. Am I missing something?
@daviddriscoll32293 жыл бұрын
Field point less likely to ruin fletching of broadhead than broadhead cutting fieldpoint fletching off.
@jonbrown94903 жыл бұрын
@@daviddriscoll3229 that's true, but this video is about bare shaft tuning...so no fletching is involved.
@nickd68164 жыл бұрын
I feel i learned alot tonight! Good stuff!
@JonnyHs4 жыл бұрын
What about the sweet spot for a 30 inch draw at 65 lbs? Should I start with 300 spine and 225 gr insert/tip?
@kyledonaldson18194 жыл бұрын
The next THP Shirt - "Shooting Flingdingers'
@natureboy0084 жыл бұрын
At what point would you knock tune the arrows? Or would you with them shooting that consistent?
@rayestrada51952 жыл бұрын
Had ruined all my arrows nock and fletch now I can't find that combo glad to see someone going heavy increassd accurany and penetration less vibration wind drift
@ag0nizingdemise4 жыл бұрын
Need to hunt Louisiana this year ladies
@waynestevenson96137 ай бұрын
Cool info bro fairy!
@briantrimboli21924 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@brandonbodi75784 жыл бұрын
Did Ted do a knock tune and insert tune before doing the shooting tests??
@ericwiitala54074 жыл бұрын
That would work on elk. I got a 28.5" draw, 65lb draw... Will look into this. Great video. 👍