Rolex Daytona: Zenith, In-House vs Ceramic

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The guys over at Chronext allowed me to get hands-on with three of their Rolex Daytonas. I compare the latest 3 versions of the Rolex Daytona: Zenith vs In-House vs Ceramic.
Rolex Daytona 16520 (Zenith Daytona)
Rolex Daytona 116520 (In-house Movement)
Rolex Daytona 116500 (Ceramic Daytona)
The Rolex Daytona is probably the most iconic chronograph, alongside the Omega Speedmaster. In my opinion, the Rolex Daytona is a better-looking watch than the Omega Speedmaster. However, the Omega Speedmaster is significantly easier and cheaper to buy.
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@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

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@FredoWfpb 3 жыл бұрын

What watch are you wearing on that gray Nato Strap at the beginning of the video?

@juniorjr5328 3 жыл бұрын

Rolex didn't modify it. The design was specifically done by zenith on rolex requests

@florianeckert2573 3 жыл бұрын

@fredo: Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical 38mm White Dial

@Tyrannimo89 3 жыл бұрын

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@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

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@jackyoung7097 3 жыл бұрын

116520 - I absolutely love the steel bezel. That would be my choice

@joshuaan5396 3 жыл бұрын

The best Daytona is the one you can buy

@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a good point.

@jacksonk75k95 3 жыл бұрын

So a citizen?

@owenmccord5078 3 жыл бұрын

AD put me on a waiting list just yesterday. It’ll be my first Rolex. Should be any day now🤞

@owenmccord5078 3 жыл бұрын

@Sleve McDichael The platitude versions are even harder to come by.

@ernestojurado3977 3 жыл бұрын

Preceramic Black dial, ceramic White dial that's my choise 😉

@PeterZandorff 3 жыл бұрын

A 16520 Zenith Daytona cost a brick jouse to service! Just sold mine unserviced since Rolex AD claimed that service parts are becoming scarce on the Zenith 16520 movement and the service price is 60 % more expensive than on the 116520/116500 which is already not cheap. Another reason for the steap service price on a Zenith movement is that it consists of a lot more (non Rolex) parts, in total more than 30 % additional components to service for Rolex i.e. takes longer time to disassemble/assemble/clean/exchange etc. ADVISE/WARNING: Only buy a Zenith Daytona if you plan NOT to wear it!!!

@vlyoz6088 Ай бұрын

how much was it

@Poukadoric100 3 жыл бұрын

116520 - white dial. Prettiest watch ever made, period.

@andyusa 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 116520 black and regretted not getting the white too when the price wasn't as crazy... I remember seeing one for sale on a AD store but I just didn't have the money to afford another one back then...

@Ilikeavocados822 3 жыл бұрын

Ceramic Daytona is the only watch anyone will ever need. Dressy, Casual, Sporty. You can wear it anywhere, anytime. Theres a reason why they are 2x list price. Demand demand demand. The people have spoken. As far as I am concerned all models will continue to increase with no end in sight. Great content as always

@truxton1000 Жыл бұрын

All of these are stunning. When I decided to get one I looked at everything, went and held everyone of these in my hand. After weighing up all the differences I went with the 16520, it was between the two older models as I feel that in the long run they will hold their value best. I went with the 16520 ad not only did I like the small details better, the size of the subdials, that they are a little bit smaller and placed a tad lower on the dial, that they do not have the shiny silver surround. That the left subdial is the running seconds, something I feel is more in line with where I think this should be as Speedmasters and other have it there too.The thinner more elegant hands, the smaller time markers. Some say as tritium lose it's shine after a couple of decades the luminova version is better but I like that the tritium change colour and also change the way it works, makes it more vintage, more interesting. I will ALWAYS go for the tritium version of any watch given the choise. The last years fall of the prices specially for the ceramic model whilst the 16520 has lost much less value I think shows which model that will gain more in value as time goes by.

@alexhoksbergen6161 3 жыл бұрын

My favourite is the Zenith-Daytona, I like the thinner hands (which you occasionally find in some 116520, but rarely), and the finer and longer "boat shape" hour markers, I feel it looks more refined. Also love the sub-dials location, they have a better placement, more symmetric and aligned with the 3 hands mov. The 16520 has so many variance, the 4 lines, floating dial, inverted 6, porcelain dial, and the various bezels marking... This is the oldest "modern day" Daytona as we know it today.

@joaari1 Жыл бұрын

As someone who had some wrist time with all 3 versions, i a gree with you 100%.

@meone8949 3 жыл бұрын

I have 4 daytonas. Both of these newer steel daytonas & a bi metal zenith. I cant get my head around why people prefer these zeniths. The watch feels so much flimsier. Favourite for me is the ceramic without a doubt.

@Thankyou_3 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Adrian, the movement shots was so amazing. We love your videos related to amazing knowledge on differences on models numbers of Daytona.

@maxjohnheng 3 жыл бұрын

A super userful video! Always wanted a comparison video on all three Daytona models! Thank you Adrian:)

@user-mg9he3qj3n 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adrian, informative as ever, every day is a school day for me as I’m still learning about the differences 🚒👍

@BastienKoert 3 жыл бұрын

I love the black ceramic, but I think I'd end up with the 116520. The all around steel is just understated in a way that the ceramic isn't

@bartversteijnen1084 2 жыл бұрын

I own the white dial 116520 and the bezel plays the light in different ways. Sometimes it is sparkly white, sometimes black and sometimes it looks like the polished metal it is. The C-tona just has a black bezel that is less dynamic in regards to how it plays the light. The same argument can be made for the white dial vs the black dial. White is just bright and pops on the wrist whereas black is just dark in all light conditions.

@hansmuller4770 3 жыл бұрын

High quality video, love it! The Daytona is such a beautiful and legendary watch!!

@aromaticsnail 3 жыл бұрын

1:57 Although you're right, there's actually an easier-to-remember way to distinguish a Zenith from a non-Zenith model, one that can't be unseen: draw/imagine a line from the 9 to the 3 marker. The sub-registers' center is not aligned properly on the non-Zenith models to the diameter of the dial. Ugly AF imho...

@kueweijun8785 3 жыл бұрын

What the actual fck? There’s no going back from here haha

@DutchClawz 3 жыл бұрын

Oh boy

@stuartniven1220 3 жыл бұрын

My OCD radar has just maxed out at 11 ! That is on par with being told about Santa Claus ! 😢

@aromaticsnail 3 жыл бұрын

@@stuartniven1220 Believe me, I know how you feel

@loaded2820 3 жыл бұрын

There is no rule that says they must be crossing that horizontal line equidistantly. Making the subdials larger was one of the things they managed without increasing the case size, the tradeoff was making those subdials slightly higher.

@Viallineo 3 жыл бұрын

Love this video. Not only does it feature my grail watch but it’s such an informative video and expertly put together by Adrian 👍

@JonWS55 3 жыл бұрын

I had the Zenith version for a while and eventually let it go as I just didn’t connect with it on an emotional level... that said, it’s amazing on the wrist and I loved the feedback of the pushers and crown. A great watch to wear - even if for some models it’s challenging to tell the time :)

@nomansland120 3 жыл бұрын

The 4130 movement is just so smooth it's unreal. You can run the 4130 all day long and it will only affect the 70 hour power reserve by a measly 2 hours!

@TheDesertracer62 3 жыл бұрын

I just got the 116520 a week ago....and I absolutely LOVE it!!

@duncanwood4489 2 жыл бұрын

I actually own the 116520 white dial and steel bezel and it’s an absolute masterpiece, works very nicely alongside my ceramic Submariner

@marcosmcc2562 3 жыл бұрын

I think I would go for the 116520. Looks incredible, wears really well, the movement is great and it's very slim for a Chronograph. It's a near if not perfect chronograph imo. 👌🏻 Great Video Adrian!

@triman82 2 жыл бұрын

The exact video I was looking for. Great info and awesome authentic reaction to which watch you'd prefer!

@FOVKRO 3 жыл бұрын

Had a 2007 for 12 years now and love it. Would buy a ceramic, if only my AD would sell me one, alas I’m not a good enough customer!!

@chipmacgill 3 жыл бұрын

I've dropped over $100k at my AD and he asked me for a "trade" "my original 50th anniversary Sub or my Hulk)to get in line for a new 41mm something or other. LOL, I don't want to trade anything so I guess I'll be waiting to stumble across one in some AD in East Bum F.

@limajuliett3406 3 жыл бұрын

@@chipmacgill your AD doesnt seem to appreciate his customers...

@LlyleHunter 3 жыл бұрын

As has always been the case with any Sub, regarding the current Daytona if you’re planning on wearing it with suits on a regular basis it’s best to select the black dial variant.

@smal1014 3 жыл бұрын

3 of the heavyweights of the Rolex division for sure.....very iconic watches. I've had a Zenith bi metal, 116520 and would love the latest ceramic bezel one love the black touches on the sub dials has to be a white dial for me. Great watch comparisons Adrian!

@johnnyguitar6697 3 жыл бұрын

Had both a (white) 116520 and a (black) 16520 for a number of years. While superior technically (movement, bracelet), I just sold the 116520 to keep only the 16520. It is more refined, and that Zenith movement just make it a bit more special in my view, despite its limitations (non-hacking, smaller power reserve).

@morganthedruid1 3 жыл бұрын

I love the Zenith purely because the centre of the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock subdials line up perfectly with the 3 and 9 on the dial where as the later versions don't , they are raised and it doesn't even get close for me.

@benjameshodges 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I prefer the horizontal alignment on the bezel of the 116520. And the more subdued silver sub-dial rings. I kinda wish the chronograph sub-dials aligned with the centre pinions. But it still looks great. Despite the Rolex specs, the case is more like 38.2mm. And there were different marks within each reference with the 116520 receiving Chromalight indices and hands. Keep up the great work!

@Iron-Father 3 жыл бұрын

The latest production 2014-2016 of the 116520 has chromalight too.. The 16520 is amazing with its story regarding the zenith movement and I really like the more symmetric look of the subdials. I opted for the pre ceramic version simply due to the more classic, elegant looks.

@i1p2p3o4c5a6m7p9o9 3 жыл бұрын

I like the first two steel bezel more, and i would choose the 116520 for : Super luminova (tritium is dead after 20 years or less) , 72h power reserve and (as i red on watch forums) simpler movement to service (so fewer work hours and so less expensive). Now i need 17.000€ or more to buy one on the grey market ! :)

@bhpbhau 3 жыл бұрын

Great topic Adrian! Any idea of indicative prices one can expect to pay for each?

@eglantinefrancoisg.9243 3 жыл бұрын

Golden year for the Daytona is 1998: 16520 with tritium dial and SEL bracelet. 1 year production. Grail.

@mikebauernfeind7024 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Adrian. Ideally , it would be nice to have them side by side and try them on. Rolex watches always look so much better in person and I suspect it would be much easier to decide between the 116520 and the 116500 simply by comparing black vs shiny silver bezel. Picture and video I prefer the 116520 but I suspect in real life it would be the 116500.

@stevenuk 3 жыл бұрын

116520 all steel is the best one for me... saying that, what you really want is all 3 !!

@limajuliett3406 3 жыл бұрын

The later versions of the 16520 did have super luminova and solid endlink bracelets. I think they were both introduced in 1999.

@thomassierp5583 2 жыл бұрын

I'm confused y why the reduction of bpm is a credit in a chrono meant to run race time at 10th of a second intervals. Would like some info. :)

@GustavoRSantos 3 жыл бұрын

My next Rolex will be a Daytona. However, it’s been impossible to get and grey market is crazy 😢

@simes333 3 жыл бұрын

Great knowledge thx for sharing

@willdallas9761 3 жыл бұрын

20k on a Daytona... one thing stops me, A. Lange and Sohne 😶

@nevillegrimshaw7758 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely spot on sir! I’m always drawn to ALS👍

@chipmacgill 3 жыл бұрын

not really the same watches though. I am kind of done with Rolex as well and looking at Breguet and Lange, but aren't they really "dress" watches?

@watch_MrG 3 жыл бұрын

Lange’s chronograph costs double of Daytona

@ArmiIngratta 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!! I actually have the latest panda Daytona but selling it to fund a proper watch!! 😈

@grokker99 3 жыл бұрын

The Datograph isnt a steel sports chrono. When you buy a Daytona, youre buying heritage thats imo more interesting and cooler than a Lange Datograph.

@nicholasalonso4648 3 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right!!!! the ceramic is sporty while the none ceramic is possibly a bit more dressy. I agree I would own both 116520 & 116500.

@mikec3454 3 жыл бұрын

Ever since I saw video pointing out the fact that the Daytona has asymmetrical lugs, I can't un-see it. Still love this watch ... simply the best proportioned and easy to wear chronograph out there.

@nomansland120 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely go Black Dial Steel Bezel! It's just so shiny and nice in real life. I have a 116500 and I'd swap it for a steel bezel in a second!

@mirkorizzuto139 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Adrian, if I had the choice and money, I‘d go for the ceramic one. I love the black and white contrast between the bezel and dial plus it is less prone to scratches. Great presentation of differences between models

@martinstephenson4311 Жыл бұрын

That's the one I'd pick too.

@donkremer6019 3 жыл бұрын

Love that all steel version.

@gzmdesign 3 жыл бұрын

I love that ceramic one... probably the only Rolex that does anything for me... that white face with the black rimmed subdials is just incredible... stunning imagery as usual Adrian!

@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I needed up falling for the ceramic one. It’s just so cool.

@dickydarmali7861 3 жыл бұрын

How about the Daytona APH Error Dial? Is it more valuable?

@Btx_77-80 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting vid. It would have been worthwhile to include the two tone as well. Those are actually still available without paying absolutely insane over retail.

@Pilkie101 3 жыл бұрын

That's a really interesting dive into one of the coolest watches out there.

@jeanlefranc3817 3 жыл бұрын

Steel bezel for me.

@dssgoddard 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, it's between the 116520 & 116500 fo me :) What watch is on your wrist?

@spaced270 3 жыл бұрын

Great video dude. Thanks again for creating content.

@balazsgalambos4458 3 жыл бұрын

Ceramic for me, awesome video again thank you for sharing Adrian

@egyedk81 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video ! Thank you

@felixborissilvesterter887 3 жыл бұрын

Not to forget, also a change self-winding movement . To start with 16520

@ragnaroker85 3 жыл бұрын

The daytona is definitely a grail watch for me. Also I'm a big fan of panda dials. So the 116500 checks off so many boxes for me.

@Halfmoon67 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid as usual ! Cheers !

@jackevans9615 3 жыл бұрын

I'd go for the 116520, the ceramic is too blingy for me. Why are the watchmakers in the chronext pictures not wearing fingercots?

@1018Frankie 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite is the ceramic one, it’s suites better my laid back lifestyle, nice video, greetings from Puerto Rico!

@geot5367 3 жыл бұрын

116520 black dial and a 16520 white dial on a leather strap would make a great pair.

@lamaludwig1470 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice comparison. For me the one in the middle. But too expensive currently.

@johnmcdonagh1607 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adrian 👍.

@robbstone5866 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual. I noticed that the lug-to-lug dimensions for the 11650 is 46.5 mm compared to the two other models that are 47 mm. You didn’t highlight this detail so I am uncertain if it was just a typo? All the best!

@nikielhanna7401 Жыл бұрын

I personally own the black dial 116500. LOVE IT!!!

@davidcarol345 3 жыл бұрын

I went with the Zenith because, tritium, black sub dials with steel bezel. I like the contrast. :-)

@creamdisco 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video! New Ceramic Bezel 116500 is the best.

@TheKwaze 3 жыл бұрын

I had a ceramic bezel fitted to my 16520 and it looks fantastic. Retro watch with ceramic bezel works a treat!

@Laguna2013 Жыл бұрын

yikes but I think I like it

@gileskerr5699 3 жыл бұрын

A little bit off topic here, but I received a bark and jack Nato strap today black 22mm, folks I strongly recommend these top quality and very comfy 👍😊 will buy again

@TimedSquare 3 жыл бұрын

Out of these 3 Daytonas, the award for the best looks goes to... your haircut! Then, the 116500 takes the crown for me. Cheers!

@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@sleepeatdrive7619 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a 16523 Zenith Daytona 2 years ago. It has been an amazing watch and wears nice. It has risen in value but I have no reason to sell it. Its always a good day when it’s on the wrist!

@The_real_Mr_Ghost 3 жыл бұрын

116520 have the best value for the money! 👌👌

@arthurmontiel2665 3 жыл бұрын

The brushed lugs on the zenith are the standout for me.

@troogroove9318 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a Daytona 116520 a few years ago and love it, the weight is right and it wears well with a suit and jeans. I find the black dial is easier to read in the sun.

@robww5921 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Next up...can you help me understand exactly what a Paul Newman Daytona is?

@richardn.5854 3 жыл бұрын

Yet another great video. I would like to see a video of the Lange 1 🙏

@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard. I’d love to get hands on with a Lange 1. 👍🏻

@SoCalWatchReviews 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you Adrian, the new versions look so much better!!

@BarkandJack 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching buddy. 👍🏻

@SChapps 3 жыл бұрын

1.5% discount that’s generous of them

@IULENZA 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion the 16520 white dial is the most beautiful modern daytona, followed by the 116520 black dial. The ceramic gives its best with gold cases, f.e. the 116515ln is simply gorgeous!

@RelojesYRelojes 3 жыл бұрын

is that a kahaki mechanical white on your wrist?

@camillcebulla5580 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video, thanks Adrian! What are your thoughts on the Zenith Chronomaster Sport? I didn't have it on my wrist yet, but it looks stunning and sort of like the pretty cousin of the Daytona.

@c.w.9615 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the Parnis version. It's a great design for sure.

@English2Elvish 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Zenith movement - that floored me that a Rolex was using NON Rolex parts / movements. Which, alright, they massively re-engineered it so I can get onboard. I MUCH prefer the black subdials on the 16520 over the 116520 silver ones, perhaps without even compromise. BUT, indeed that bracelet and tritium make it a pass (next one) from me... The 116500ln is just the best of damn well everything. Double MSRP? Sigh, so it is...

@julianmouton3 3 жыл бұрын

If it’s a Zenith with a Patrizzi dial, then I’ll take one of those. Otherwise, I like a ceramic Daytona (any dial color).

@watches2329 3 жыл бұрын

If only I needed this information for such a decision

@felixleong6920 Жыл бұрын

Hi. I had brought 116500 two weeks ago.. It's a beautiful timepieces.

@brt356 Жыл бұрын

Adrian, I'm biased - but I would also have to pick the 116520. I was fortunate enough to get a new one over ten years ago. I love its classic look and yes, the movement is fabulous. But for me it was simply the classic elegance of this watch that I like. It is by far the most comfortable watch to wear. I can safely predict that I will never part with it.

@markmatthewnjo 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely would go for the ceramic daytona with the white dial!

@huanngo7299 3 жыл бұрын

The slimmer hour marker on the Zenith gets me, but the newest panda is the one I would buy.

@johnbenton5102 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone explain the appeal of Levis clothing in Europe. I went to Italy last year and saw so many Levis shirts. I don't get it. (I'm American)

@aparetix 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite Dayton is with the Maserati blue dial.

@GameOverSNAAAKE 2 жыл бұрын

I traded my DeepSea for a white dial 116520. I initially felt I was settling since I wanted the Panda. The more I wear this watch, the more I’ve grown to love it. However, with that said, I’d still trade towards the Panda if the opportunity came up! Both are amazing!

@Daytona89 3 жыл бұрын

I've the black ceramic Daytona and love it

@wataki_watcheswatakiwatche3160 3 жыл бұрын

Love this and the return of the tables (the geek in me). Would also love to see a pre ‘88 video. Love it; I can’t decide either...

@faizhashim 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice review Adrian. The Steel Daytonas are very difficult to get hold off. Would be nice if you could also share your thoughts on the Gold/Steel variants like the 16523 which also house a Zenith movement.

@mrbroofing2306 3 жыл бұрын

Faiz Hashim yeah good question I’m also a fan of the 16523 it’s the underdog that’s not mentioned a lot, it’s basically the same watch with some gold ...