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@lloydwilson8995
@lloydwilson8995 2 жыл бұрын
I added audible beeper to indicators on both my old bikes because I have seen so many motorcyclists (including myself) forget to turn off after turn. The sound is annoying when waiting at intersections or traffic lights, so I fitted a relay that disconnects beeper when brake is applied (stop light circuit). Put on brake when you stop and sound stops. Starts again as soon as you take off. Simple solution.
@tenders
@tenders 2 жыл бұрын
I like this feature too and added it to my Aprilia. No relay needed - just a $5 beeper with diodes on the positive to the two turn signal + leads, and the negative to the brake light + lead. Beeps when signal is on and brake is off. No beep when signal is on and brake is on.
@Whitejesselink
@Whitejesselink 2 жыл бұрын
Hand singles only for a few years.
@G58
@G58 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing on my CB250G5. Your improved version is better. Thank you for sharing.
@Qrnl
@Qrnl Жыл бұрын
I tried (but failed beacuse relay is needed) to attach vibration motors from gamepad so you can feel vibrations when turn signals are on
@DaMoserDone
@DaMoserDone 2 жыл бұрын
Decompression Levers are still quite common, you just don’t see them anymore as they are engaged/disengaged automatically.
@antonyhughes4702
@antonyhughes4702 2 жыл бұрын
I lost interest when you said that vintage lights ran on Kerosene, they were actually Carbide gas lamps. Do some research will you.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
Had one on my KTM 620cc single. You could always tell if the exhaust valve tappets needed adjusting by the chatter it would make at idle.
@lukewarmwater6412
@lukewarmwater6412 2 жыл бұрын
my old yamaha dirt bike has one. I use it when I go down steep hills as a brake... dont know what else it would be for. maybe a non-electric kill switch? two strokes dont usually require a whole lot of kick to turn over.
@lukewarmwater6412
@lukewarmwater6412 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonyhughes4702 not all were carbide lamps. ... german engineers.... some had to be pumped up like a camp stove.
@benjaminpont220
@benjaminpont220 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukewarmwater6412 well I got an old Vespa bravo with no electric start or kill switch, or kickstart. It’s only got pedals, so running next to it and releasing the decompression lever is a good way to start it. And I can tell you from experience, that a decompression lever makes that a heck of a lot easier than it otherwise would be.
@drsinixt9269
@drsinixt9269 2 жыл бұрын
3:40 In Switzerland we have almost a kind of tradition of driving around in small 25cc motorbike-bicycle-hybrids (we call them "Töffli") which are always pedal started. Many teens drive them as your allowed to as soon as you're 14yo but there are still many enthusiasts which like to put bigger engines and tune them because those bikes where made to be easily tuneable. So at least in Switzerland you see those pedal starters very often, especially after school when all the teens start pedaling up their Töfflis to drive home.
@parbxi100
@parbxi100 2 жыл бұрын
We had mopeds called "Luna" in India until the 90s - early 2000s.. which had a pedal start.. I remember using my friends Luna in my college days...
@isallah1kafir196
@isallah1kafir196 2 жыл бұрын
@Dr Sinixi Grüß Gott aus Österreich. The Puch MS (50cc) may have it it too. It was one-seater. Well up until the late 1970, don't see them around anymore, so it may be a dying thing....
@Jaffa1951
@Jaffa1951 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty certain that Royal Enfield still supply a tool kit with their bikes. I've got a 2018 Himalayan that came with a tool kit. Come to think of it I've also got a 2018 Honda NC750X which came with one.
@searchingforelysium
@searchingforelysium 2 жыл бұрын
They do. I have a 2020 Conti GT.
@Burns748
@Burns748 2 жыл бұрын
Yes my 22 Royal Enfield came with a tool kit which I was surprised about, it was pretty cool
@KostenfreiGratis
@KostenfreiGratis 2 жыл бұрын
I used the one that came with my Int 650 quite a couple of times 😁
@SirBalageG
@SirBalageG 2 жыл бұрын
Bought a BMW in january, it had the kit
@Xros123
@Xros123 2 жыл бұрын
Even the Honda CB350 (made for India) has one.
@TriumphBeezaman
@TriumphBeezaman 2 жыл бұрын
Jawa used to have Kickstarter that doubled up as the gear lever & operated the clutch also even though it had clutch lever as well, self lubrication on swinging arm bearings & interchangeable front or rear wheels were other strange features.
@A_S_100
@A_S_100 2 жыл бұрын
You've absolutely read my mind. Also in addition to this it has a fully enclosed chain drive to protect it from dirt and make the chain last longer. The exhausts are also slip on and slip off from the downpipes when unbolted and can be swapped to either side of the bike.
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin 2 жыл бұрын
Remember the ks gear lever. CZ s had it ( though that probably was a Jawa with a different tank. ). MZ filler with measuring cup under for two stroke oil, that was a good touch
@TriumphBeezaman
@TriumphBeezaman 2 жыл бұрын
@@highdownmartin seem to remember the Jawa going from petroil to oil injection then back to the old pre mix then oil injection once again.
@A_S_100
@A_S_100 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TriumphBeezaman I think you're right and they made a 350 with oil injection probably around the mid 70s called an oilmaster and then later models were premix again but the 350 twin they currently make has gone back to oil injection.
@andrewallen9993
@andrewallen9993 2 жыл бұрын
The buggers that stole mine couldn't figure out how the electric start worked as it obviously didn't have a kickstart. They did cut and short most of the wiring though.
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 2 жыл бұрын
3:15 You don't just pedal and badabing magic happens engine on. You spin up the flywheel separately from the engine with the pedals and then drop the clutch, dumping the pedals momentum into the crank whenever you think it's fast enough. It's a lot like the way some tanks can be started with a handle you cranked by hand
@GTAIVisbest
@GTAIVisbest 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you had pedals connected to the crankshaft and just tried pedaling normally in place of a kickstarter, it wouldn't do anything. Anyone who's ever kickstarted a bike incorrectly knows what I mean. It requires a lot of sudden momentum to be able to kick over, a relatively slow steady movement does nothing
@thandren7437
@thandren7437 2 жыл бұрын
On that with tools, my soviet motorcycle did not have any, but a fun little fact is that you can take both wheels off with a wooden stick or a screwdriver.
@VNExperience
@VNExperience 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Enfields still come with toolkits. My 2021 Interceptor has got one, the same with Continental GT and the Himalayan. I wouldn't call RE a boutique brand, they're just doing a hell of a job. 👍
@john_barnett
@john_barnett 2 жыл бұрын
I have three new Hondas (CB125, Rebel 500 and CB650R) of different shapes and sizes and a 2016 KLR and they all have tool kits in various locations... I didn't think they were so rare.
@andypughtube
@andypughtube 2 жыл бұрын
One thing missing from the list: Anti-dive forks. (I wonder if the lack of tool kits is just a US market thing? I think bikes sold in Europe still have one. My R1 does)
@frogsshadow4189
@frogsshadow4189 2 жыл бұрын
My 2022 Ninja came with one, no idea why it was included on the list
@CamTarn
@CamTarn 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to report that even my pal's Honda CB125F came with a toolkit! I was pretty surprised. It's a nice bonus for such a small affordable bike.
@bikewolf7455
@bikewolf7455 2 жыл бұрын
i worked at a yamaha and ktm dealership and i think the kits are in general getting smaller but i cant recall a single bike that doesnt come with one. maybe the big scooters? not sure if ive ever seen a tool kit on a yamaha tricity tbh ive had plenty of bikes and i can count the amount of times the tool kit was usefull on one hand.... basically only when someone else needed a screw driver, i gave them the one from my tool kit. otherwise the kits are pretty useless. often you dont even have the tools you need also anti dive forks still exist. just in different forms. like electric forks can do that, bmw telelever does it and ive read about some drop in cartridges for my DR650's forks that pretty much prevent diving too
@RockandrollNegro
@RockandrollNegro 2 жыл бұрын
All bikes sold in the US come with toolkits, except for Harley-Davidson. Either this guy has never purchased a new bike or he's only purchased Harleys; either way, he's completely wrong in his assessment.
@Wingnut_Stickman
@Wingnut_Stickman 2 жыл бұрын
Every bike I have ever owned in 51 years of riding has come with a tool kit of some sort. I have one as recent as 2018 vintage. This "lack of tool kit" is a complete shocker to me. I typically add tools to my kit, but how one uses one's tools depends on the person, not the tool, of course.
@marcof1430
@marcof1430 2 жыл бұрын
Piaggio "Ciao" has pedal starter and also a decompression lever, so it's easy to use the pedals!
@tifrap
@tifrap 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be common to add a decompression valve and lever to the second spark plug hole in single cylinder 2stroke dirt bikes, not to assist with starting but to provide serious engine braking. It was the best way to slow down quickly without locking up the back wheel on slippery terrain.
@burkestorti4586
@burkestorti4586 2 жыл бұрын
I remember 2 stroke dirt bikes with an added compression release. I installed one on my 68 DT1 250 Yamaha. This was done under advice from my brother who had a similarly equipped Bultaco Matador. It turns out that the Bultaco had poor brakes, my Yamaha didn't.
@DarrellCook-vl6lm
@DarrellCook-vl6lm 10 ай бұрын
@@burkestorti4586 Bultaco definitely had inadequate brakes. It was ment to go not stop. Stupid engineers ruined the brand that way. The brakes were so bad I'd not be surprised if that was the plan all along. Destroy the brand.
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 2 жыл бұрын
My 2017 Ural has a tool kit that will just about allow you to rebuild the motor. It's even got two great big steel tire irons that weigh about a pound and a half apiece. Not to mention the spare wheel and tire pump.
@dieselguy62
@dieselguy62 2 жыл бұрын
That tool kit was a huge marketing thing for them. I had two of them, back in the early 2000. Actually pulled a transmission out, replaced a bearing and put out back in, 150 miles from home. With just the tool kit in the bike
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieselguy62 back in the seventies Lada cars (made in Russia), even came with a tin of touch up paint!, we could do with that today with all the car park scratches, even a paint pencil would be nice.
@udenszirnis1644
@udenszirnis1644 Жыл бұрын
@@CrusaderSports250 ladas came with a paint can because they knew the painters were sloppy and if the owner wanted their car painted propertly they have to do it on their own. Many did. Not because they wanted to, but because they had no other choice.
@neilmchardy9061
@neilmchardy9061 2 жыл бұрын
Headlights never ran on kerosene, they ran on acetylene, p.s. sometimes called carbide.
@Wingnut_Stickman
@Wingnut_Stickman 2 жыл бұрын
yup.
@ludditeneaderthal
@ludditeneaderthal 2 жыл бұрын
Carbide is the mineral that, when decomposed by water exposure, produces acetylene. So your headlamp would have a water tank, a dripper, and a carbide cup. You set the dripper to produce just enough acetylene to keep the lamp lit.
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen1051
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen1051 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of mistakes this guy makes is kind of shocking. Should call him fart
@sidmarx7276
@sidmarx7276 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the steering damper knob that stiffened the turn handling on most 1950's bikes.
@daylightsensor8695
@daylightsensor8695 2 жыл бұрын
isn't this still a thing on big litre street bikes?
@fivespeed3026
@fivespeed3026 2 жыл бұрын
@@daylightsensor8695 they generally don’t have a knob from the factory. Stunt riders often use them however.
@edwinbruckner4752
@edwinbruckner4752 2 жыл бұрын
My Honda CB77 (1966) has one. Pretty cool feature
@aquarianmoonproductions5566
@aquarianmoonproductions5566 2 жыл бұрын
I wish this was a more common feature
@spiriteddrive6309
@spiriteddrive6309 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that was because in that era it was very common to have a sidecar mounted to your bike and with that you want to have the steering easier to turn as opposed to riding solo.
@daveallen8824
@daveallen8824 2 жыл бұрын
You need to have someone explain the decompression lever to you. Except on very early motorcycles, it does not work as you describe it. Actually, you bring the bike up on compression, pull the lever, ease the piston over the top, release the lever, then kick.
@Richard_Ashton
@Richard_Ashton 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. Without the lever, it was almost impossible to get the piston over TDC with enough momentum to fire. Easing over TDC while decompressing meant that a hearty jump on the kick start gave the speed needed to get the engine started.
@Foodgeek
@Foodgeek 2 жыл бұрын
Both my Honda Monkey (2022) and Honda rebel 500 (2020) come with a toolkit :)
@lam1991hahaha
@lam1991hahaha 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter cubs as well
@greenboy256
@greenboy256 2 жыл бұрын
So did my 2015 Yamaha TW200!
@EyebrowsMahoney
@EyebrowsMahoney 2 жыл бұрын
My 04 Honda Shadow has a toolkit too.
@devonshire458
@devonshire458 2 жыл бұрын
my Kawasaki W175 too!
@MuddyMoccasins
@MuddyMoccasins 2 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki KLX 250 (2018) does too
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 2 жыл бұрын
I rode a tank shift once, with a long lever it was super easy to ride. Also to hell with that tool kit nonsense, they do the same thing in games. Eliminate a feature and act like there's an actual reason beyond just cheaping out.
@jimmyneutron5679
@jimmyneutron5679 2 жыл бұрын
both of the suzukis I owned had toolkits inside
@iguana51
@iguana51 2 жыл бұрын
Every new bike I've ever owned has come with a toolkit and every second hand bike has had an available OEM toolkit. This dude is straight up wrong on that point
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 2 жыл бұрын
@@iguana51 I've never owned a vehicle less than 20 years old, I wouldn't know.
@iguana51
@iguana51 2 жыл бұрын
@@russetwolf13 I can guarantee OEM toolkits will be available for at least some of your bikes hahaha 😂
@russetwolf13
@russetwolf13 2 жыл бұрын
@@iguana51 I am aware, new bikes meanwhile could cause testicular torsion regularly and I wouldn't know, I couldn't afford a new bike if I saved for 20 years
@nhansgoofyvideos7581
@nhansgoofyvideos7581 2 жыл бұрын
The decompression lever is no longer needed. Newer bikes that I know like Yamaha have automatic decompression cam disc that allow the exhaust valves to crack open during start up.
@Wingnut_Stickman
@Wingnut_Stickman 2 жыл бұрын
yup. I have two relatively modern chainsaws 55cc and 72cc both with decompression valves, hardly rare in the saw universe. Small engines like on a generator tend to decompress themselves for ease of startup as well.
@Kim_Miller
@Kim_Miller 2 жыл бұрын
I bought an Indian Scout in 2016 and the toolkit was a single allen key that clipped into a spot behind the rear number plate. That's it, one tool for everything they expected the owner to do.
@RockandrollNegro
@RockandrollNegro 2 жыл бұрын
Your dealer ripped you off then. It should have come with four combination hex key/screwdriver bits, dipstick and fuse puller in a nylon pouch behind the license plate. If you ordered saddlebags as an option, it would have had an additional mini ratchet set, shock adjuster tool and Leatherman-style multitool in the right side saddlebag. Unscrupulous Indian dealers are known to pull these kits and try to sell them as options and/or put them on eBay. My 2017 Scout came with all of the above, at no cost. But then again, I purchased from Indian of Daytona Beach, which is the largest Indian dealer in the country, and not Crazy Joe's Indianporium of Buttlick, Montana or whatever backwater dealership people go to in order to save $340 off MSRP.
@demahsamusic8825
@demahsamusic8825 2 жыл бұрын
@@RockandrollNegro so you paid $340 for your toolkits 😜
@torrycole6477
@torrycole6477 2 жыл бұрын
Indian of Sturgis told me they sell more bike than any Indian dealers in the world. They sell a lot of traded in Harley-Davidson , too! Tell you anything?
@sanjib330
@sanjib330 2 жыл бұрын
All indian manufacturers provide toolkits and indicator beeper with their bikes. It's kind of a mandate here in my country
@raizopopo3159
@raizopopo3159 2 жыл бұрын
The ingenius shifter for me is left grip shifter like in old vespa
@t.s.racing
@t.s.racing 2 жыл бұрын
Actually a good feature in my humble opinion was the direct to neutral lever on some old twin Royal Enfield. No matter what gear you stopped in, move this lever with your right foot, ( same side as the shifter), and the bike went straight to neutral.
@SchoggiHD
@SchoggiHD 2 жыл бұрын
Have this on my 1994 bullet, it's an amazing addition
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 2 жыл бұрын
@@SchoggiHD it was a wonderful device but only Enfield seem to have used it, it was good on a four speed box so just imagine it on a six speeder! no need for digital indicators just push down and your in neutral, what could be easyer. My Enfield also used cerrated cams for chain tension, just move both sides the same number of "clicks" and your done and the wheel remains in line, never seen that on other bikes either.
@ajaychoudhary9817
@ajaychoudhary9817 2 жыл бұрын
my 1982 royal Enfield bullet has 4 unique outdated features 1. ammeter 2. right side gear shifter 3. neutral finder 4. decompression lever
@MrBuyerman
@MrBuyerman 2 жыл бұрын
Lots places, outside the US, still have toolkits provided. All my bikes, Japanese and UK brands have had them.
@TheLemonadedrinker
@TheLemonadedrinker 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Thank you. I had a DR350 and an XT500 and they both had valve lifters. Both early versions of those bikes, no electric start on either.
@PineyRider
@PineyRider 2 жыл бұрын
Tools came with my 2022 RE INT650 and also with my 2018 Yamaha TW200. Funny thing with the TDub though, you need a 10 mm to remove the seat to access the tool kit!! 🤔
@classCexplosive
@classCexplosive 2 жыл бұрын
My tdub you just pull off the panel opposite of the air filter to get the tool kit. I would think yours should be the same since tdubs pretty much haven't changed.
@PineyRider
@PineyRider 2 жыл бұрын
@@classCexplosive Yeah? I'm gonna have to double check that.
@classCexplosive
@classCexplosive 2 жыл бұрын
@@PineyRider let me know how it goes. You probably have an untouched tool roll in there haha
@PineyRider
@PineyRider 2 жыл бұрын
@@classCexplosive Took tomorrow off. Gonna have a look-see! Stay tuned.....
@PineyRider
@PineyRider 2 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected, I believe. I didn't see tools on my TDub, but does look like a spot that they'll fit behind the side cover. Hey, I was told by TDubs Kid video!
@anthonysmith2982
@anthonysmith2982 2 жыл бұрын
Hah! That takes me back... The frickin' thumb operated decompression lever on my old RE 500 single, the crusty & rusty (and wet metal & plastic stinking) tool kit I found in the side box of my Yammy XS650 project bike and the ꜰᴜᴄᴋɪɴ’ ʙᴇᴇᴘ-ʙᴇᴇᴘ-ʙᴇᴇᴘ on my CB750... It took every ounce of mental fortitude not to start randomly tearing out wires on my first ride home with that one. Thanks man! 30+ yrs of memories in under 10 mins!!
@Beeza56
@Beeza56 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you have a 500 Trumpet. I had one in ‘80 in Greensboro and have had another since ‘2012. Keep the faith 👍
@jala6707
@jala6707 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! FYI: all my 3 motorcycles: a 2007 Suzuki DRZ400, a 2007 Moto Guzzi Griso and my 2016 Honda CB1100 came with OEM toolkits.
@skipprice4376
@skipprice4376 2 жыл бұрын
The government made Harley switch the 1975 Sportster controls so bike thieves wouldn't get confused.
@joeljeffcoat6241
@joeljeffcoat6241 2 жыл бұрын
My ‘89 Honda NX650 came with a tool kit, and it’s even easy to access behind the front fairing. When I was a kid Harley’s with a hand shifter were still around. People called them ‘suicide clutches’, because if you were in gear at a light and began to lean the wrong way, taking your foot off the clutch to catch yourself could launch you into traffic.
@ChuckCassadyYT
@ChuckCassadyYT Жыл бұрын
its amazing to me how so much of this guy's video comes from other channels with just his own voiceover. brilliant
@khaccanhle1930
@khaccanhle1930 2 жыл бұрын
A bike with no kick start is lame. There is nothing worse than having Low Battery power or a broken starter and not being able to start the bike. One of my bikes had a broken rectifier and it took a few weeks to get the part order. So I just removed the battery and kicked started the bike until I could fix it, no sweat. Apparently the new SR400 comes with a kick start and my first thought was, "it had bloody well better have one." Any SR I tried was ONLY kick start, separating the men from the boys.
@bobmarlowe3390
@bobmarlowe3390 2 жыл бұрын
I miss having a kick starter on my bike. All of my older ones did.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.....especially with no decent hill to roll down...I have vowed that if the starter on my FXDL goes, I will pick up an aftermarket kickstart setup.
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 2 жыл бұрын
I do like the idea of a kickstart. It looks pretty cool watching somebody do it.
@ronnronn55
@ronnronn55 2 жыл бұрын
My Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 came with a functional tool kit. Nice! The signal beeper sounds like the bike wishes it could back up by itself!
@CurtisDrew1
@CurtisDrew1 2 жыл бұрын
I've still got my Honda turn signal beeper! I rigged it up with some jumper cables and alligator clips and use it as a wire tracer./ fuse tester. I have used it that way for decades. I'll never get rid if it.
@chrispomphrett4283
@chrispomphrett4283 2 жыл бұрын
Self cancelling indicators on Yamaha XS400 and 250. Worked by a magnetic Reed switch in speedo head. Wasn't time related, it counted pulses from rotation of speedo cable. Worked superbly.
@johncallow22
@johncallow22 2 жыл бұрын
I had an RD200 from 1977-1980 and an XS400 around 1989; I think that the self cancelling was both time and distance related: 10 seconds or 100 metres, so that if you were waiting at traffic lights, they would continue working. I cannot understand why this excellent feature isn't on my 2017 MT-09 or my 2021 Guzzi V7.
@beaterbikechannel2538
@beaterbikechannel2538 2 жыл бұрын
My Suzuki GS850 had them. It didn't work like everything else on the wreck that I pulled out of my mates garden and tried to restore.
@n4zou
@n4zou 2 жыл бұрын
My KMZ Dnepr has an in gearbox reverse, and the foot shifter also operates the clutch when shifting. All 4 wheels are the same with one carried as a spare on the back top of the sidecar. It has a real alternator and not a simple stator type like modern motorcycles. It can be removed and replaced in 15 minutes unlike replacing a stator buried inside the engine that can take hours. The owners manual is also a complete service manual. A parts catalog shows everything used and where in detailed drawings so no need to wonder what screw or bolt went where or how it was assembled. It includes a light switch for turning on and off all the lights unlike modern motorcycles where the lights are on all the time the engine is running. It even has a trailer hitch for towing a 1/4 ton trailer or towed weapon such as a heavy machine gun. There are two neutral positions. Idle neutral between 1st and 2nd gears and towing neutral between 3rd and 4th gears used when towing it with another vehicle. The back of the sidecar seat can be switched so the gunner can sit facing forward or backwards depending on guarding the front or rear of a marching troop column.
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 2 жыл бұрын
Last feature very useful to deter tailgating 👍
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
@@goldilocks913 ...even better than the old...throw a sparkplug over your shoulder...
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 2 жыл бұрын
There have been a few bikes with alternators. I'm sure Goldwings have them, I know BMWs do, or did.
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsDaJax yes Goldwings do 👍
@rock3tcatU233
@rock3tcatU233 2 жыл бұрын
We need to bring back propeller powered bikes. It would help with annoying pedestrians.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
...and at a stop light in the hot sun....you would have a nice breeze....which brings to mind...what about in the rain?
@Fred_the_1996
@Fred_the_1996 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack everyone behind the bike would get blasted lmaoo
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fred_the_1996 ...don't even begin to discuss the aftereffects...errr...backblast... of a night of beers and chili....
@epbrown01
@epbrown01 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, when you popped a wheelie you'd find yourself hanging below a helicopter as it rose into the sky. ;-)
@jerryjones2818
@jerryjones2818 2 жыл бұрын
Back in 1974 the U.S. DOT set "standards" for new motorcycles sold in the States. Those standards included putting the controls in the same place on all bikes. Turn signals became required then, along with the Headlight always being on.
@dbmail545
@dbmail545 2 жыл бұрын
Someone with a memory
@davidoickle1778
@davidoickle1778 2 жыл бұрын
When I toured the Harley Davidson factory a while back in York, Pennsylvania, they told us you could still order a foot clutch if you wanted it. Not sure about the hand shifter.
@mr.carguy654
@mr.carguy654 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1980s Checoslovakian moped and it has a pedal start! It's hilarious and actually very effective at starting the 'beast'!
@scottdiamond7133
@scottdiamond7133 Жыл бұрын
The compression lever was a seriously good feature. Especially if you've ever kicked over a 600 CC single Thumper
@DarrellCook-vl6lm
@DarrellCook-vl6lm 10 ай бұрын
Or tried to start a Vincent Black Shadow. Sailing sailing sailing over the handlebars with one leg punched through your chest.
@WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc
@WahyuSetiawan-sz4lc 2 жыл бұрын
Kick-start is a must have feature here, because someone will always forgot to change their battery and that's the only way to turn it on when the battery dies.
@janblake9468
@janblake9468 2 жыл бұрын
The first bike I owned was a 1965 Yamaha. It came with a tool kit, which I needed because it fouled its spark plug every 300 miles. I sold it a couple years later, but I still have the tool kit.
@Robertlynschultz
@Robertlynschultz 2 жыл бұрын
AH... Was wondering what happened to the tool kit!
@fredflintstone8770
@fredflintstone8770 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't think of 10 features that no longer exist? Chuck in a couple of wacky inventions, problem solved!
@wristray8775
@wristray8775 2 жыл бұрын
Royal Enfield's Neutral Finder. A small lever to put the into neutral quickly. Helpful in red lights. Drove bikes with all those features you mentioned. Well except that retractable tricycle. Bob just reminded the Jawa kick-cum-gear-lever, so much fun !
@richardclegg5853
@richardclegg5853 2 жыл бұрын
My 72 Suzuki TS 125 had what compression relief valve (i think what you were calling a "decimoressor") i felt it was there more for 2-stroke "engine breaking", not sure if that's what it was designed to do, but for a 12 year back in the 70's, worked great for me
@DarrellCook-vl6lm
@DarrellCook-vl6lm 10 ай бұрын
Wow! A propeller driven motorcycle! Gives new meaning to the term 'Chopper'. Num num num.
@elvagar
@elvagar 2 жыл бұрын
I have a toolkit with my 2007 honda and it is amazing. i can basically take apart the whole bike with it. And some tools are even better than my workshop ones . For example the spark plug that came with the bike is the only one i can use to get one of the spark plugs out.
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 2 жыл бұрын
British pedal cycles used to come with a basic toolkit, often along with an oilcan, pump & a saddlebag.
@Jeffy2n
@Jeffy2n 2 жыл бұрын
In 1978, in America, the DOT (Department of transportation) established by law that Motorcycles made from 1978 forward would have the left foot shifter, a right foot brake, the throttle on the right handlebar front brake lever on the right handlebar and the clutch on the left handlebar. You can modify this to accommodate a person with a handicap but this is the production layout required. As to compression releases My 2010 Harley has them, and the newer ones have electric ones. As to the turn signals, Most modern motorcycles use a BCM to control the turn signals they self cancel.
@charlesmelton3203
@charlesmelton3203 2 жыл бұрын
This is wholesome homie motorcycle content. Keep it up bro I like your style
@ronniefranks4351
@ronniefranks4351 Жыл бұрын
My 1972 Yamaha RT360 came with a decompression lever. Made a world of difference starting it. My 2018 Suzuki SV650 came with a tool kit.
@pebear
@pebear 2 жыл бұрын
In 1973 / 74 US Congress passed a law that forced motorcycles to have a standard shift setup. So now you see all motorcycles everywhere (except older models) have left side shifts, and clutch and right-side throttles. This was done for safety but, it was to crush the British motorcycles in the 70's that all had right side shifts. Harley did have to re-engineer the Ironhead Sportster to left hand shift.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed..I have had 1970 and 74 Sportsters with the right side shift, no big deal as I had already owned BSA and Nortons before....but I worked on an ex's 1976 Sportster and recall the factory workaround being a bodged looking shaft thing that moved the shifter to the left side.
@pebear
@pebear 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack the 75's and 76's are two years that I would avoid because of all that heavy linkage carried under the belly of the bike just causes strain on the transmission. I bought a 75 from a buddy who was out of work and needed some cash. The bike ran good until the shifter shaft lost a c clip inside and the shaft was sliding in and out of the tranny and making it very hard if not impossible to shift. I sold the bike on Ebay to some father and son from PA looking to put it all back to stock (as if it were rare motorcycle gem) I gave them a full run down and allowed them to ride it up and down the driveway and I'm happy I got out of that bike even steven....
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
@@pebear Agreed....part of the reason I haven't ridden one in decades....after decades of pans and shovels, these days it's an older 1340 Evo for me. I don't trust anything newer...any more than I trusted a new stock AMF product.
@pebear
@pebear 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWolfsnack Can't go wrong with an EVO, it's the fix for everything wrong with the Shovel. I have an 01 Twin Scam (cam) FLSTF. The only thing I have done it it besides a couple carb rebuilds, was I replaced the cams at 60K. I went to replace the tensioners and noticed a couple flat spots on the cams, so they got replaced. I have my 73 XLCH that I converted to electric and threw on an S&S Super E, that's for around town, bar hopper.
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 жыл бұрын
@@pebear Agreed on the Evo, this is actually my first one, bought four years ago after a garage fire burned up a chopped 54 Pan/Shovel and a rolling chassis I was about to get a motor and tranny for. Insurance covered everything but the bikes...I did get a new and larger garage, plus all of my tools replaced with better tools, and had enough cash to buy the Evo...a 93 FXDL ported and polished, a Head Quarters cam, Screaming Eagle ignition, and Andrews gears. She runs real strong. Stay safe brother!
@pjay450
@pjay450 2 жыл бұрын
I had a bike with turn signal sound. It really helped while riding through sleek lanes, where you can't see the turn. It kind of gave a heads up for any incoming vehicles or pedestrians.
@peacockchristopher99
@peacockchristopher99 2 жыл бұрын
As for manual decompression levers... they are not a complication, but a necessity on high compression single cylinder British bikes. On bikes like my BSA B44SS and B50SS the clutch (even when well set up) would slip and stop the piston passing top dead centre. The technique for using it is not how you describe. Use the kickstart lever to get the piston to compression, ease it past compression slightly with the use of the decompressor and kickstart, let the kickstart return and release the decompressor, the a good swinging kick will get it started.
@jaymorris3468
@jaymorris3468 2 жыл бұрын
I wish cruisers still had kickstarts, pretty cool
@SirBlade666
@SirBlade666 2 жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands it used to be legal to drive a
@stacysedgewood9600
@stacysedgewood9600 2 жыл бұрын
The second one (retractable whee) is one I first heard about when it was featured in Popular Mechsnics. I still want one!!
@timsatchell6713
@timsatchell6713 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bart, am a regular watcher and like the channel. 1. Decomposition leavers. You turn the engine over until it stops on compression. Then using the decompression leaver you ease it just over compression. At this point, one full swing on the kick-start will take the engine through Suck/Squeeze/Bang/Blow and it should start. Get it wrong and it hurts. Try srarting a 600 Panther single without one. 2, Sprung loaded side stands. An intermediate safety feature between nothing and ignition cutout switches. Honda NX250 had one. Hated it. 3. Beeping indicators. Had several 70s bikes with them including 2 GL1000s. They were fazed out quickly because Honda uses a beep very similar to the audible GO signal on some European pedestrian crossing for the visually impaired.. Not good. I found them quite useful. Keep up the good work.
@ExperiencesAndEquipment
@ExperiencesAndEquipment 2 жыл бұрын
Larger chainsaws still have decompression buttons. Life saver on a big saw like that.
@paulcannell7188
@paulcannell7188 2 жыл бұрын
my Yammy SR500 and Guzzi Nuovo Falcone both have decompressor levers. I only use them to get just over compression to kick start.
@ikwer111
@ikwer111 2 жыл бұрын
On my 1929 Harley and many other bikes: hand pump built in the oil tank used for pumping extra oil in the engine when riding at higher speeds, left handlebar grip turns to adjust ignition timing, ammeter in dash to monitor charging when riding, cruise control (gas grip is not spring loaded, so stays where it is when you release your grip ;-) ), automatic primary chain lubing (oil drips on the chain through a pipe from the engine), hand adjustable generator output, separate cold weather priming valves in each cylinder with a gas injection syringe screwed in the gas tank, air filter bypass option, and a front brake, which was not a standard option then. Almost forgot the dozens of grease fittings all over the bike that needed your attention very regularly. I really admire our ancestors that used these machines every day and in every kind of weather.
@pb6839
@pb6839 2 жыл бұрын
I love that I can get my fathers ancient pedal start Motobecane started in 2 seconds, but modern bikes with kick starts take ages sometimes.
@PhillipBicknell
@PhillipBicknell 2 жыл бұрын
My 1980s CZ125 had a tool kit to which I added an emery nail-file board - the points were under the same side casing as the primary sprocket, so used to get oil burned onto the gap!
@noahwail2444
@noahwail2444 2 жыл бұрын
At least some Yamahas from the ´80 es had side stands that foldet up when lifted. Another forgotten feature is the twist-grip gearchance in the left handgrip, where the cluch was the lock.
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 2 жыл бұрын
Like Vespas used to shift.
@kenwenman9579
@kenwenman9579 2 жыл бұрын
In the sixties, I had a Vincent Comet 500 cc single. The "compression release" was a spark retarder. If you got it wrong, the backfire would travel back to the kickstarter and break your ankle. I also had a Harley 45 with tank shift. The clutch pedal was as big as the sole of your shoe.
@toomanybears_
@toomanybears_ Жыл бұрын
My RE Bullet came with a tool kit with enough tools to do basic maintenence such as change spark plugs, adjust the chain and even adjust the valves. You could probably get the head off the engine with the tool kit it came with but that would be a bit of a stretch. It is kick start only and has a compression release which is really handy. And the kick stand doesn't flip up automatically but has a rubber fob that will flip it up if you ride off without raising it first. Nice safety feature. My Ducati had the flip up stand which never caused me to drop the bike btw.
@pjdonovan21ify
@pjdonovan21ify 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old 80's Puch moped with a pedal start I rode when I was just out of HS. Think the cylinder is blown now but man, so much fun. I'd love to get that running again
@Patrick.Weightman
@Patrick.Weightman 2 жыл бұрын
I NEVER understood why pedal start went away, it's honestly so genius
@nigelcarruthers7301
@nigelcarruthers7301 Жыл бұрын
My 74 Suzuki GT750 had a 70's red led gear indicator that was way more visible in direct sunlight than you would think it would be. More visible than some modern LCD displays in cars in direct sunlight.
@commonman8370
@commonman8370 2 жыл бұрын
1. Carburettor + Choker 2. Center stand 3. Fuel reserver and main switch 4. Headlight on off switch 5. 2 stroke engines 6. Easy maintenance and reliability
@Raitzen97
@Raitzen97 2 жыл бұрын
9:40 In Czech republic, Jawa made model called Babetta, the moped is kickstarted by pedals, does not require licence plate (no insurance or anything) is cheap af, easy to maintain but you still need driver's licence to ride it on roads. It also serves as a leg day workout when the engine refuses to start
@ashilino
@ashilino 2 жыл бұрын
Love the two dudes back in the day sharing a few swigs then ripping doeys in the dirt
@vincentjohnston1751
@vincentjohnston1751 2 жыл бұрын
I think another function of the decompression lever is to allow you to apply a faster kick to spin up the magneto faster to get a good spark
@cyrex686
@cyrex686 2 жыл бұрын
Had all those at one point: Piaggio moped had pedal start and decompression lever. Honda elite had a turn signal sounder, which clicked instead of buzzing and I really liked it. A few had tool kits, but they are older. My current bikes have kick start, one trials, one dual sport.
@morganhawkins2250
@morganhawkins2250 2 жыл бұрын
The Royal Enfield Himalaya actually does come with its own toolkit underneath the seat. And the manual has full instructions on how to do basic repairs on the side of the road.
@paranoicyoutube
@paranoicyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
Most cheap Chinese bikes sold by local brands here in Argentina and latinoamerica in general have a tiny tool box/kit below the battery. It comes with almost all the wrenches needed to service the bike and i usually use the toolbox to store essentials like fuses and things that could break on the go
@anasrafeek8074
@anasrafeek8074 2 жыл бұрын
Still bikes in India has beeper as an option for turn indicator
@_Boobz
@_Boobz 2 жыл бұрын
I have a old 1980s Yamaha DT175 that had weird carb problems resulting In 2 days of trying to kick it over untill I broke off the kick starter. That pedal start you were talking about would've been so nice to have
@theboysofeasyco
@theboysofeasyco 2 жыл бұрын
*This guy* "Have you ever wondered what it's like if they're playing in a motorcycle had a baby?", *Rockstar games* "Only if you knew my child"
@demonmonsterdave
@demonmonsterdave 2 жыл бұрын
As kids we had a couple of Puchs, which were pedal start. They're also pedal go too, especially downhill.
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC 11 ай бұрын
Before I got my motorcycle endorsement, I was riding around on an old moped from 1980. Pedal start was honestly rather annoying since, in the event of stalling out while at idle, unless I got fully off the bike, put it on the center stand, then got back on and started pedaling, I couldn't restart it without pedaling the whole bike forward. Or rather, being a moped, that's how it was *supposed* to work- to start the engine, you start riding like a bicycle, then pull the clutch lever to spin the engine over until it starts using the bike's own momentum just as much as your leg power. For anything with an engine bigger than a moped, kickstart makes a bit more sense since you can start it without moving and you can put your full body weight into it. To make it even more silly and outdated, I re-wired the whole bike to add a battery and turn signals... To my surprise, the amazon flasher relay I had bought turned out to be the kind that beeps! So every time I put the signals on, it would beep, just like that honda. I called it a feature and got on with my life. Everyone else made fun of it though, for some reason.
@mariobernard5583
@mariobernard5583 7 ай бұрын
The 2005 VFR800 I picked up this summer still had it's tool kit minus a couple of Allen keys. When I asked the seller about the tools he said he got the bike without, and neither of us saw one when he removed the seat. Later when I had it inspected I asked the mechanics who replied they hadn't noticed one even with the seat and all fairings off. A few days later I took the seat off to check something out, and something else caught my eye. The tool kit! It was right where it was supposed to be looking like it hadn't been touched in years. Not only did the black vinyl pouch blend in really well with the black structural member it was wedged in, but also the accumulation of dust and dirt in the under-seat compartment from years of riding had essentially camouflaged it to near invisibility. Of course it's an almost 20 year old bike. Dunno if Honda still includes a tool kit with some of their current models. Cheers!
@pallavagrawal
@pallavagrawal 2 жыл бұрын
I think you got the mechanism to use the decompression lever a bit inaccurate. I primarly used the decompression lever on my old Royal Enfield in corrlation with the Ammeter to find the TDC of piston just after spark which puts the bike at the start of the four stroke cycle. The concept is that on high capacity bikes it is difficult to compress 350 or 500 cc of air multiple times in one kick. So the gearing of kick is so designed that one kick only turns the crank twice, i.e. 1 complete four stroke cycle. The decompression lever lifts the exhaust valve making the turning of engine easy and a sharp movement of the Ammeter needle communicates that the spark has happened. Therefore finding the aforementioned TDC and setting the kick position right at the start of the 4 stroke cycle.
@phillippi2
@phillippi2 2 жыл бұрын
There are still decompression levers on dealer-bought racing motorcycles.The Go-Cart store near where I used to live still sells one. I don't remember the make or brand but, the engine is a 125cc Malossie Sport, which is a 2 stroke engine.
@notbenh
@notbenh 2 жыл бұрын
Decomp is still common on moped kits to allow for higher compression cylinders and still pedal as mopeds are often required to have them legally. Also toolkit is still standard for modern Vespas. Audible turn signals are also standard on some import scooter.
@ZX-es9zw
@ZX-es9zw 2 жыл бұрын
A decomp lever does work well. I had one on my Yamaha 426 dirt bike. It was simple to use. Drop the kick start one click down, hit the decomp, drop it two clicks, return to the top, stomp as a normal kick start
@anandzope3236
@anandzope3236 2 жыл бұрын
Here in India there was a pedal start moped named Luna or TVS XL which was still in production till quite recently. Also, turn signal beepers are very common and people even voluntarily get these beepers fitted on. Almost all Indian 2 wheelers still come with a tool kit as well.
@darthbiker2311
@darthbiker2311 2 жыл бұрын
Pedal starts are still a feature of motorized bike kits. And some Chinese road bikes still have turn signal beepers. mine has one, it was a small box with a tiny vent on it for the sound. I couldn't find a switch on it so I just wrapped the vent under layers of electrical tape.
@KAlpha09
@KAlpha09 2 жыл бұрын
This video needs a part 2! Jawa and Yezdis came with Kick starter lever that worked as gear lever too. Honda NR series had oval piston engine that never caught on. Suzuku SX85 came with factory fitted turbo.
@kawonu2666
@kawonu2666 2 жыл бұрын
Decompression sickness is when you get thrown over the handlebars trying to kickstart your bike.
@dannelson2171
@dannelson2171 2 жыл бұрын
I loved making the girls jump when I hit the decompressor lever on my kawasaki f-7. SNAKE, SNAKE!
@williamjacksebastian
@williamjacksebastian 2 жыл бұрын
Pedal starting is much harder than kickstarting, that's why one replaced the other. A friend of mine has a very old moped that has a pedal start, keep in mind it's a small 50cc engine, pedal starting it feels like trying to ride a bicycle with 2 other people sitting on it, trust me, much much harder!
@mannyserrano4055
@mannyserrano4055 2 жыл бұрын
My 1991 Honda Nighthawk 250 has the toolkit and it’s own dedicated compartment. Very convenient and retro.
@superhawk3057
@superhawk3057 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you another great video.
@haha__cool_yes
@haha__cool_yes 2 жыл бұрын
My 2016 YZF-R3 has a toolkit under the pillion seat. It’s not comprehensive by any means, but it’s enough to get you home if something comes loose
@artpatronforever
@artpatronforever 2 жыл бұрын
Chain cases were a highly useful component that kept abrasive sand grit off the drive chain which reduced wear greatly on the chain and sprockets and especially was good when riding off road or in the rain which quickly fouls any chain causing maintenance to be constantly needed. Why such a good feature was ever not provided on every chain drive motorcycle is a mystery.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was a cop in the '60s, and he rode a Harley Davidson police bike when he was in the traffic division. They still had bikes with hand shifters, as well as newer ones with foot shifters (and Harley discontinued hand shifters in the mid sixties, IIRC). Dad liked the hand shifters better for a police bike, because radio technology had not been miniaturized to the point where they had earpieces and mikes in their helmets like motorcycle cops today. They had the same kind of radios that were in the patrol cars, with a handheld mike on a cord. Dad preferred the hand shifter, because you operated a foot clutch, and you could use the heel of your hand to push the shifter while you were holding the radio mike. This was not possible on a bike with a foot shifter, because you needed a hand free to operate the clutch on the handlebar, so you had to clip the radio mike back down onto the bike.
@cookiesandcocktails
@cookiesandcocktails 2 жыл бұрын
In India its a common add on to put beepers for your turn signals on your motorcycle
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