I sincerely appreciate it. Making videos like that was very fun but incredibly time consuming. ...which is why I dont anymore, now I just livestream 😅😅

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You might enjoy my Guaguanco. betsyagain.bandcamp.com/track/i-am-guaguanco

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by "his", do you mean the teacher? you mean you could do better than this teacher? (if so, please say more.) or do you mean the teacher made you better?

@Jonathon Neville No no i should've said "their" percussion,in the sense my percussion.Came here to understand the dance so that I can make my conga playing better🙌

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I'll do a video on muelleo... good idea

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Would try to listen to the shekere. (Sounds like a loud maraca) which will usually mark at least 1 or 1 and 5

Thanks for the reply. I bought the app you mention, but I really dont see how I can add the shekere to the guaguanco sección in the app

Can I add other instruments into like the guaguanco , already built in without the shekere if it doesnt have it built in already guaguanco sectiion? I like the app, but dont know if I can add other instruments to the set up rythms like afro, etc

I think they call it maraca

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Ca'chan is for columbia even though many people incorporate it into guaguanco. I like to teach is straight in guaguanco and ca'chan for columbia so that if people want to incorporate it, they first know the conventions. The same way I like a lot of the anesthetic in the feet of columbia styling in guaguanco, I will leave the feet flat for the basic steps.

​@@MessinaDance Ok, so your stepping was a deliberate 1,2,3, no problem. Interesting what you said about Cachan is for Columbia, as it is present in most Guaguancó dances that I have seen dance by Cubans. Tiny sample below: Alberto Valdes - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8tymtuXqL66h6c.html Maykel Fonts (+ Alberto Valdes) - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLKAe7miq8XcgHU.html Los Muñequitos de Matanzas - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irahitqdybCseWQ.html Didio Guevara - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9WjmqV-qbm6kWQ.html Also it is taught as a basic step in most Guaguancó classes. Not doubting some Cuban instructor told you this, there seems to a lot of difference of opinion between different instructors as what is correct and what is not when it comes to Guaguancó.

Fonts and Alberto you notice are accomplished columbieros. Of course there is mixing in the genres, that is how the dances evolve, but the ca'chan embraces the "swing" of the 6/8 clave in columbia.

@@MessinaDance Just want to go back to the initial point where I think we may have different views. This was the statement you made that made me post the examples above: "Ca'chan is for columbia even though many people incorporate it into guaguanco". Point I am trying to highlight (and I may of not made the point well earlier), is what constitutes a particular move IN or OUT of a dance where there is no canonical form? Multiple credible teachers from Cuba seem to have very different views on what is in Guaguancó and what is not. Some teach without a muelleo and other I have heard say 'without a muello it is not Rumba!' Some teach some active hip movement (Valdes has some active hip movement) but I have heard Havana instructors say 'if you do this you are dancing like the woman'. So there is variation of what is IN and OUT of the dance that is for sure, and the canonical truth you will not hear from a single instructor. Another issue which you are referencing which I agree to is dances can evolve over time. Did Ca'chan originate with Columbia? (btw I have read cubans spell it as Cachan too!) I am not arguing that it didn't, I have no facts to say for or against. But I can say it is clearly a key part of Guaguancó as danced by Cubans today, as much as Adios, Rodeo and Pasea came from Son and are key elements of Casino. I have a really old Guaguancó video somewhere I will see if I can dig it out and find an example to see how far back Cachan was used in Guaguancó. In the last comment you made I think you are suggesting Fonts/Alberto add Cachan into their Guaguancó as they including a reference from Columbia. We know Cubans pull in dance 'references' frequently. But I have concluded Cachan is a fundamental element of Guaguancó now because of witnessing it being used in virtually every dance Guaguancó with cubans. Setting aside the use of it by the male (in case as you say its a Columbia reference), it is the primary lateral movement used by the women to quickly put laternal distance between her and the man, or in traversing in front of him. I could find a hundred examples of a women doing this, I doubt that anyone can find many full dances of Cubans doing Guaguancó where a Cachan is not used. Examples of Cuban women doing Cachan steps Rumba Guaguancó - "El Solar de los 6" - Casa de Amado - La Habana 2011 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbCGh8Jm2N3PmHU.html @1:29 1989 Root of Rhythm - dancing in Havana kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdqFrKx3xpmocWg.html @ 9:50 . Rumba : Obba Tuke en Callejuela - Santiago de Cuba 2014 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7qjatqBtd3Qh40.html @ 9:22, 10:00, 25:55 Cuban Rumba - "Espiritu" by Clave Gringa - Callejon de Hamel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jc9neamq1a6woIE.html @9:58 Hundreds more....

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Percussion Tutor. Check them out in ur app store

I can explain best in the next rumba video, but general answer is yes

Messina Dance Company thanks, looking forward to the 3 step breakdown! Looks cool!

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Unfortunately the term "Rumba" has a few different meanings. In this great tutorial video it is meant to represent one of the 3 Afro-Cuban dances that constitute Rumba. 'Rumba' in a ballroom context is a ballroom-ized dance derived from Cuban Son, popularized by 'Monsieur Pierre' and Doris Lavelle. They travelled to Cuba a number of times, learnt Son, renamed it and made it more European / Ballroom in nature. Here is a video of them practicing Son in Havana. I think I read somewhere the date is wrong in this video and it may actually be in the 1950s kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbJ-mZZly8rGmKs.html . They are dancing a form of Son Urbano.

@@nic7144 Thanks! Anyone know why they renamed it? I would guess to avoid confusion with "son" meaning child, but if they didn't want to call it son, why not call it Son Urbano? Why call it rumba (a word which included a variety of dance styles, some looking nothing like what they called rumba)? Not calling it Son saved a little confusion; calling it rumba created more confusion, and partially erased other dances within the rumba family. Presumably they encountered guaguanco. Presumably they knew the word rumba included guaguanco. I think it would be impossible for them to go to Cuba many times to study dance and never encounter guaguanco, but maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe they kept returning to the same club, a club where there was only upright dancing.

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