You do?

To me it makes Batman too easily manipulated. I don't think he would fall for it.

I think he was a bit too quick to give up his identity, but I do agree that it shows how selfless Bruce is.

@@BatCorkilltbh Arkham knight had the knight fall protocol ending where he “fakes” his death after exposing his identity to save Gordon and Barbara. Shown to be a Batman that uses a bit of non lethal fear toxin.

Oh geez, spoilers! =P (I liked it too)

Probably because his Dad still cares about, and is still alive.

Does anyone else think that card should have read "It was *our* dad :)"?

@@AlecDraven they do that sometimes. it’s a bit odd, right.

I had the film on both DVD and Blu-Ray.

Also, the cast would've been different too. Michael Keaton was supposed to play Batman again, but he quit because they were changing the tone of the film. Billy Dee Williams was supposed to play Harvey Dent/Two-Face after playing Dent in the 1989 film, but Schumacher replaced him with Tommy Lee Jones. And most interesting, Robin Williams was in discussions to be the Riddler at one point.

Jim Carrey shouldn't be part of this movies.

Robin Willians was the original choice.

@@anubusx He wanted to be the Joker in the 89 Batman, but they conned him out of it by pressuring Nicholson into taking the role. He was angry enough that he turned down the Riddler.

If it was a darker movie, they'd have to rewrite two face completely. But Val as Batman, Jim as Riddler and Robin would still work well in the story. Two face would serve as the darker contrast to Jim's manic energy.

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The funniest part bout that is that that's true.

They actually do that joke on their Rifftrax for Batman Forever.

bull705 Do they really, that's the best!

I just wonder if he realizes the people *around* him could easily hear him; just saying!

@@KingRandor82 hmmm

HARVEY!!! HE'S BATMAN!!!

Everybody get that a lot.

Though that's not really an achievement.

Am.i the only one who woshes they had a bat credit card? Acess to one of batmabs powers...what was it Batflek? Batfelk: Im rich.

What have you done?!

Wait till George Lucas edits it.

A BAT CREDIT CARD. Never heard of it

Rocked Luck 😄 Really Enjoyed Your New Top 10 List 😃 .

Hahahahaha!

v13kobold lmfao

If you pull your own finger too much you go blind

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I think Doug saw his dad coming (he looks to the window them does a quick wrap up just before the doorbell)

"Who's that? You'll never find out, ha ha!"

Made me laugh more than it should've.

You know if Warner Bros. was smart, they could of connected Christopher Reeve's Superman to Micheal Keaton's Batman and maybe Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman.

It also creates a GIANT plot hole, just like the reffrences to the justice league in arkham knight

What, you mean like Harvey Dent looking like Billy Dee Williams in one movie and Tommy Lee Jones (huh, I never noticed the similarities in their names...) in his next one? Yeah, plot holes... as a side, did you know that supposedly, in one earlier version of "Batman Returns" the character of Max Shreck was meant to be Harvey? From what I heard, Catwoman sticking the taser-thing into his mouth as the end would've (somehow) been how he was scarred in this continuity... or so I heard, at least. I haven't seen if that's true however, so take it with a grain of salt.

He also namedrops Nightwing as a possible candidate when picking a superhero alias.

Yes true but considering that unlike Superman, Nightwing is part of the Batman universe it´s not that strange that they would mention Nightwing but Superman on the other hand is part of another "universe" and is not as likely to be mentioned.

Points middle finger at a marker board that says “Cone!”

I agree, he can look a bit odd in the costume but when he portrays Wayne he seems pretty good.

Brayden Wormer Bob Kane (the creator of Batman), get this, thought that Val Kilmer was the best actor of Batman...

Brian Cleary agreed. Batman and Robin is definitely a close second there

Brian Cleary I took a few of their lines when I riffed on it a little. I'm definitely gonna use the, "Pull my finger," one next time.

Though, I don't like Doug and that other guy. They told lies they got from the internet. I always believed what Ben and Andrew said if you watch Superhero Stuff You Should Know.

​@@redlanternreviews4821and for me, I loved both Batman Returns and Batman & Robin.

​@@EpicMickey777and that's ridiculous.

Tadicuslegion78 it was the director I'm sure. Jones is a capable actor and he could have been a great two face

I rather think the latter. He saw the sets, saw the script and though: ""Well shit, I have walked into a disaster. Might as well have fun with it." And Schumacher was not the guy to tell him to act more serious.

I think he wanted to play Joker.

I heard it was actually his son who convinced him to sign on.

The question is could you imagine Billy Dee as this buffoonery version of Two Face? Lol..

Mario Hernandez Jim Carrey was inspired by Frank Gorshin's Riddler from The Adam West Batman Show.

in another movie with better directing Jim Carrey really could've been a decent Riddler. He's proven that he can do serious roles before so it's not too much of a stretch.

fun fact: Jim Carrey's role as the Riddler was meant to be for Robin Williams... who wasn't available, and Jim Carrey was brought in as he was the next "off the wall" person down from Robin Williams they could get. So there could've been a slim chance Robin Williams could've been a Batman villain.

Fun Fact, Schumacher wanted to go a different route but the studio demanded it be more campy to sell toys. Don't believe me? Check out the deleted scenes and you'll see exactly what kind of film Schumacher wanted to make

I think Jim Carrey would've been a better Joker.

I want a first viewing of The Lorax and The Cat in the Hat.

Yes! Didn't expect that

Well, he's friends with Rob Scallon

Just met Corey Taylor let week!

Corey Taylor is a huge fan of Nostalgia Critic, my guess is they are fans of each other?!

Didn't know they were friends or whatever, pretty cool.

ExecutionStyleInc In Schumacher's head: "Now how do I satisfy my gay fantasy without pissing off the audience? Eh, if it pisses them off, they'll get over it.

You gotta admit... that is one bootylicious Batman. No homo.

Phil Michaels your Keaton batman avatar make your comment even more hilarious. But on the subject eh maybe you can say Kilmers batman at least owned he had an ass. Maybe it was for the ladies too, or just Chace.

Shoumaucher - we are going to do an ass shot now. Val kilmer - WHAT! Shoumaucher- its in my script Val kilmer - why did I replace Micheal Keaton.

I get the reference. 🙂

"Batman, crawled through a river of sh*t."

Debi Mazar’s not bad looking. 😏

Nicole Kidman in heat....

I totally agree with you Batman Forever could of been really good actually I think Val Kilmer could of been a good Batman to be honest it seems like everyone didn’t really like how they movie turned out so they gave us the wackiest acting in the fucking world it seems like there doing this on purposes because they know the movie could of been more then what they are givien Tommy Lee Jones could of been a great Twoface and Harvey Dent I think he was a good choice for the roll but i don’t know why he gave the worst Performance for the character to be honest he more wacky then the riddler and they brush they transformation to Harvey from Two Face a side to be honest The reason why this movie get a pass because everyone loved Jim Carrey yes he is entertaining in the move he don’t give the Riddler character justice i was 5 when the movie came out so yeah very young I did liked it but I did prefer the old movies more I just notice that as I kid lol I can see this movie turning out good even with the cast and yeah I agree Robin should be a Teen Ager to be honest Dick Grayson was 12 when he become Robin so yeah I think a Teen age actor would of worked better Chris O Donald not even a good Dick Grayson he more like Jason Todd in personality They could of made the movie a whole lot better becasue the movie is kid friendly don’t mean the actors could perform like jackasses and restarts it seem more like a Parody of Batman then an actual Sequel movie

Bruce Wayne and Harvey suppsot to be friends actually they don’t even acknowledge that they where close friends he supposed to be a tragic villain not a damn clown he not like the joker he worse then the Joker Joker just take death and chaos as a joke Twoface in Forever just acts like a immature kid

doctordoom85 I actually think it's funny just how horrible it is. It's definitely a so bad it's good movie, the way I see it.

Two-Face does work better as a tragic villain who used to be a good man. Which is why Aaron Eckhart's version of the character in TDK is the best live action interpretation.

Robin in his 20's is way more credible than younger, regardless of the stupid decisions in the comic version. I can accept changes that make sense, like black batsuit.

At least Batman & Robin went full camp with being the bigger film version of the '60s TV show.

SpiritKitten DanicaLoy and Moses. 😊

I love Forever, because it had a good balance of bright and dark. It also had that as a living comic book, but also had a darker edge to Batman.

Theresa Cherco weirdly enough not even in the Batman movie that featured Poison Ivy who killed with a kiss

ULGROTHA The film begins with the escape of Harvey out of Arkham. Literally the first words of the movie is Hell here. The hanging guard and the inscription on the walls of blood: the BAT MUST DIE. That is, Batman appeared immediately at the crime scene. The giant mouse is Bruce's inner fears, and it goes through the whole movie until at the end Bruce finally takes them, as well making reference to the return of the dark knight. And that's exactly what Nigma sees in the finale when he talks to Bruce, that fear that Bruce has mastered is literally driving Nigma crazy. By the way something like we saw in the finale of the Arkham Knight. The finale does not refer to Batman of the 60s, he was sent to the finale of the first film, Batman and Robin standing on a gargoyle and look at the city, and Dr. Meridian asks Alfred When will it end? Alfred never answers. Bruce chose to live in darkness, rejecting happiness with a girl, but now he's not in this alone. One is stalling if not a masterpiece, then at least a very strong idea. And by the way Nygma is also cut, and there were several scenes showing how he is a sadist. And again, the revelation of the characters, a more complete story arc, part of this is in the network, especially I recommend to see a fan-made remaster some scenes allows you to understand more how it would look in the film. Schumacher wanted to make a film that respects the work of Burton, but Warner would not let him, look for deleted scenes, the beginning and the end was way darker, had more character development, Actually if you keep in mind the scene in the cave, you realize how epic and important was the last dialogue of Nigma and Batman, and you know what Nigma was so frightened that he went crazy. The arch of Bruce's doubts makes sense. This whole hopping tone of the film is the result of the Studio's intervention. I hope that we will ever see Batman Forever by Schumacher, not the Studio.

Your comment made me laugh

Batman 89 happened first. Batman Returns happened second. Batman Forever happened third. And Batman & Robin happened fourth. That's why Tim Burton and his friend Joel Schumacher add really cool visuals in all four movies and a lot of different spin to the main villains.

Andrew Ahn man I didn't even recognize her til u said that haha

She was also the "frog that became a prince" lady in Batman Returns.

And you don't think Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey were having fun w/ their roles?

I feel both Shcumakers bat films are just 90s tributes to 60s batman. If uou dumb it down and like how unique the sets for this gotham city, i see no harm in liking them as campy/hero movie.

Nah. For me, Batman and Robin is just bad. It's just so bizarrely awful.

They're both bad, but the parts of B+R with Arnie are good, because he's the only one who can really make this cheese work. (It helps that he's not shrieking and leaping about like Carrey and Jones.) Uma's not bad either, certainly better than that personality vacuum Nicole Kidman.

+Kevin Perales Yeah, same here. I'll go back and watch them every so often in the same way I'll occasionally watch a couple episodes of the 60s show. Grimdark Batman and Campy Batman CAN coexist. (Hell, that was basically the subtext of LEGO Batman.)

Tristan yes I don't get the joke either.

Robin was talking about how he saved his brother, and his father told him he was a hero. He failed pretty badly the 2nd time he tried to save them though.

yup, that's true. Carrey was brought in cause he was the next best thing to Robin's off the wall unhinged humour.

He's doing the character the way Frank Gorshin did it in the tv show, but even more over the top. Gorshin played the character as wacky, but sinister. Carrey comes across as demented and "camp".

He looks like a Happy Chris.R

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Burton's visuals are hard to beat. He did a great job making you believe an elevated world where all these wacky villain sexist with the atmosphere he created.

JQXJQ Yes, Burton has a knack for making the world of the movie he's making come to life. Take The Nightmare Before Christmas for example.

+ Ceo Wesley I pretty much agree with you. I know these days there's a lot of dislike for the 89 "Batman" because "The Dark Knight" has eclipsed it but it's still my favorite of all the Batman films. Probably why I enjoy "Gotham" so much. It's got quite a "Burtonesque" feel to it.

Shadowman4710 Wait, people hate Tim Burton's Batman movies? Why? I mean they were like the perfect Batman movies. I think the first one did a great job of capturing Frank Miller's dark and gritty Batman comic books.

+ Cheo Wesley. "Hate" might be a bit strong but yeah I've run across a number of reviewers on the Internet in the last few years who seem to think it's a highly flawed and fairly bad movie. I think it suffers primarily because it's obviously not "The Dark Knight." Personally, while I've always enjoyed that film, I still think it's one of the most overrated films of the last couple of decades. Yes, it's a good film. But is it really that much better than Burton's vision? I don't really get it. I'm also nowhere near as blown away by Heath Ledger's performance (May he rest in peace) as so many fans seem to be. Honestly I don't think I've ever seen a bad performance of The Joker. Okay, Jared Leto's version wasn't great but I don't think he sucked either. Ledger's very good in TDK and yeah it's probably his best performance but it's not all that much better than Nicholson's and to be honest, the kid on "Gotham" is totally knocking it out of the park as the younge "proto-Joker," Jerome.

and webby vanderquack (2017s version) from ducktales

Nick Craig that could work. second week could be about the TV show

Cameron Clophus That show was pretty much everything great about my mid-nineties childhood!

Nick Craig I love the intro. Especially the walk

But the first one is awesome though...

Phil Michaels I'm sure Doug can find some things to poke fun at.

+Mermaid Boy Lord help Doug, and company if it is.

My brother turned down Thor Ragnarok and made me watch Justice League instead

+Daniel Attrell Is he a DC Fan? If he is, or isn't, I'm not judging him.

He said it was fine...but thats the problem its friggin justice league,it should be the event of the decade. Plus you cant enjoy a movie when the previous one spend the whole runtime saying "watch the next one please".

+1997residente Right, right. I feel you on that. I just think they should have kept Snyder on board as a producer, on JL, find a new director, less studio interference, and go from there.

Me: My success of convincing Tommy NOT to play you

The lawsuit against the Coen Brothers for stealing my line.

A role more cartoony than Jack Nicholson’s Joker

Charlie Bear Birds of Prey maybe? I mean it is Gotham-I’ll stop

Matchstick 7886 that would have made much more sense lol

....in place of which one?

boneyard009 i think it was more to serve his character arc in the film. Who does she love? The bat or the man?

Do you mean Batman or Bruce Wayne?? How the hell does that make any sense?? I'm talking about batman/Bruce Wayne.. He falls for a girl that clearly into batman.. Why would writters want to do that? Clearly, whoever made the scrip just said "Yea, Bruce is going to fall in love with a stalker, thats good writting, man".

boneyard009 i never said he had a reason to be in love with her. Im saying the whole romance plot serves to put new perspective for his dual identites of bruce and batman and who should he be.

To be fair, she's being whorish for him only. I can see a normal person choosing Chase over Vicky or Selina just b/c she's much simpler to deal with. But Batman needs to be more complex than that, which is why he constantly falls for villainesses.

@jp3813, A normal person?? Selina is a villian Bruce fell for.. Vicky and Chase are not villians at all, yet one is a reporter on Bruces life, The other one, tries fixig his head. I'd choose a reporter then a mental doctor. @Dalton Williams, the plot serves no purpose at all. Hes choosen to have both life styles years ago. Having a mental breakdown for who he wants to be, over a stalker who wants batman, should of not been so hard.

matthew pizzuti .....and?

he said in an interview that he wasn't interested in this until his son talked him into it....maybe that's one of the reasons he clashed with jim carrey. I think jim really wanted to be it as opposed to tommy.