Battle Companies! The Perfect Way To Enjoy Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game?

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Because Of Dragons

Because Of Dragons

Жыл бұрын

Recently, when painting up some more miniatures for the Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game, I got to thinking about giving Battle Companies another try! Could it be the perfect way to enjoy this miniatures wargame?
► Battle Companies Via Games Workshop www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/...
► Oathmark For Battle Companies? www.northstarfigures.com/list...
As I said during my "getting started" video for Middle-earth Strategy Battle Game, I think that the narrative and scenario-driven side of things is the way to go when it comes to this game. Battle Companies certainly provides that whilst also opening up loads of opportunities for hobby, conversions, terrain building and more.
Have you given Battle Companies a go?
#LotR #MESBG #Warhammer

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@briarsandbantams
@briarsandbantams Жыл бұрын
Battle Companies, despite its flaws, is my favorite way to play MESBG. I absolutely love narrative campaign skirmish games. My current nerdlife dream would be to play in a long term campaign that combined elements of map based wargaing, grand tactical scale miniatures, MESBG sized battles, and Battle Companies type narrative campaigns. Overly complex and ambitious, I'm sure. But it could be very much the LOTR version of the old Mighty Empires game.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
For sure - that would be awesome. Yeah, I totally love the narrative elements of Battle Companies and what it brings to the table. I like that it helps those starting out as well, buying a few new miniatures here and there as their warband grows.
@Not_secretly_an_Orc
@Not_secretly_an_Orc Ай бұрын
The community version which has a full pdf is much better balanced and is still continued to be updated unlike the original
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Ай бұрын
I will have to check out the community version
@adammc8107
@adammc8107 Жыл бұрын
Yes certainly! Have a campaign going at the local GW store with some friends and also a separate campaign on the go at home with my boys (8 & 10). The kids are some tough competition! My 10 year old is using Goblin Town and is thrashing my Iron Hills Dwarves at the moment (have enough enough models and you will roll some 6s).
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Sounds brilliant! Ah Goblin Town is a lot of fun I bet :) Are you using the same company when you play at GW?
@adammc8107
@adammc8107 Жыл бұрын
​@@BecauseOfDragons Goblin Town with their starting numbers and Chittering Hordes (all models support each other) has certainly seemed OP in the early games and has given my son a head start. Using Durin's Folk at GW and Iron Hills at home (still dwarves both ways)!
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this as always Ben. I've always loved the idea of Battle Companies but never been able to explore it as I'd like. I did a four game series on the GBHL back in the day but that was all filmed in a day so felt really quick and didn't allow for any of the cool modelling opportunities you allude to. I actually took part in Dewi's Battle Companies challenge last March and went all in in getting a company converted up and painted, I was really enjoying it but only got as far as finishing 10/14 models so it's been on indefinite hiatus since then. I'm planning on finishing it this March/April - only a year late - and really looking forward to finally showing off the models! We've also gone back and forth with doing Battle Companies in SBG Mag for years now but never quite found a way to make it work. It wouldn't work as a series as we only publish once or twice a year so it would just take forever to get anywhere so we have even sketched out how we could do a full 48 page BC special but even that would be tight for the space we would need - ah well, maybe something in the future. Ultimately I just don't have the time for the kind of regular casual gaming that BC needs and so it remains an exciting and appealing part of the game that's tantalisingly out of reach for me sadly - Damian
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's the big thing with Battle Companies is just finding the time! I really like the idea of the stories it could tell and the chances to make your own heroes and villains a group. But, adulting does tend to get in the way!
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564
@battlestreamsinmiddle-eart8564 Жыл бұрын
@@BecauseOfDragons Indeed, adulting is the worst. I should never have grown up. It was a trap :-(
@lowlandswargaming1302
@lowlandswargaming1302 Жыл бұрын
Cool video! Looking out for the first batrep.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
I'll try my best!
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
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@battlehawk1263
@battlehawk1263 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great, would be good to see a Batrep.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
I would like to try and film some bat rep stuff - I think it would be a bit adhoc to begin with though haha
@shotou
@shotou Жыл бұрын
I loved when my gaming group ran a Battle Companies campaign, even though we historically fail at campaigns, and annoyingly the campaign did end up failing, with the two people who were responsible for running it, caught real lives and had to stop. As much as I love the system, it's not actually a good way for new people to get into Lord of the Rings, the randomness of the reinforcements, and the lack of model availability even to purchase. I had a nightmare time trying to find Wood Elf Sentiels when I rolled two of them for my company. I did end up finding four on ebay, for an exorbitant cost.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
True - it can be a bit hit or miss. I guess warning people about choosing a particular faction and the model availability might be a thing? I'd certainly say it's something to play alongside developing your full army for the regular game perhaps - especially if you don't mind kitbashing and converting.
@shotou
@shotou Жыл бұрын
Finding 3rd party models can be a challenge, except when Beast of Wars shows off great companies like Medbury, which may have the model I need to finish command groups for my War of the Ring army, Captains are easy enough to find, and standard bearers, but finding suitable musicians has been a huge pain. Now I just need to see if I can get one of my club mates to print a couple of them for me.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
I do like the Medbury range. I too don't have a 3D Printer so having a look at some of the vendors that have picked up the license over on Etsy!
@shotou
@shotou Жыл бұрын
I'll ask some of my club member if they can print some out for me, a lot of them have 3d printers now. I just wish I had room for one.
@needlesbeckett
@needlesbeckett Жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, not played it but will certainly give it another look, thank you 🥳👍
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Hope it goes down well! I think it can be a lot of fun with the right group :)
@thomasshea308
@thomasshea308 10 ай бұрын
so this is becoming one of my favorites especially since I play necromunda the most
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Battle Companies is a lot of fun. Such a good system for letting you tell some fun stories in the world of Middle-earth
@Razermain
@Razermain 10 ай бұрын
I realy enjoy Warcry and thought this might be an option to get into LotR Strategy game. But I looked the battle companies book up and you need the book and at least two other books and up to three other books (core rules and armybook of Hobbit or armybook of LotR). This ain't no cheap way to enter the hobby. As stated I am buying Warcry stuff from GW, so I'm not a "Boycott GW" kinda guy, but 3 books but 142,50 € up to 192,50 € without even having a model is not a cheap entrypoint at all. Even getting into AoS or Warhammer 40k is cheaper (the core rules and battlescrolls for free). And other games like f.e. Oathmark sell their whole core book, which has everything you need to play, for 26,95 €. The prices for LotR tabletop are an impudence!
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons 10 ай бұрын
The outlay on books is definitely a factor and not something I considered. I guess I came at this from the viewpoint of someone who is already in the Middle-earth hobby and was looking for a way to capture your own personal narrative in MESBG. I still think it's a great way to play MESBG though. If you were looking to get started in MESBG yourself and don't want to buy the books just yet, I'd recommend Battle Of Osgiliath or one of the Battlehost sets. The Battlehosts come with free army rules and the core rules are free online. The Battle Of Osgiliath is more expensive of course but you get the core rules and two big armies + heroes and terrain. www.warhammer-community.com/middle-earth-strategy-battle-game-downloads/ it doesn't make Battle Companies easier as a prospect I guess but it's a good way to get into the game!
@APaganPerspective
@APaganPerspective Жыл бұрын
stupid question. i dont have a 4 foot table, can this be played on 3x3
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Yup, you could easily play it on a smaller table and it wouldn't mess up things much at all. Just maybe have a think about some of the distances for deployment etc and you'd be fine :)
@AndrewMcColl
@AndrewMcColl Жыл бұрын
Comparing the two now, Battle Companies feel a little like a first attempt at what Kill Team is now. Not saying that's a good or bad thing, it's just interesting to spot the similarities. It does seem like a fun way to play the game. I just wish my locals could commit to a campaign past the first couple of games.
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Yeah the commitment to a campaign can be the rough thing about it. If you don't have a good little set of friends to play games against, I can see Battle Companies be the style of game that just doesn't cut the mustard. It would be neat to see if there was a revamp later on down the line to that's for sure.
@Guru_Swami
@Guru_Swami Жыл бұрын
Trying to get some interest in Battle Companies at the local shop. It's pretty heavy on 40K and on card games. Any suggestions on getting some interest built up?
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
You could always build two or three warbands yourself - maybe a good and an evil one and demo the game for people? That sometimes get them interested as they don't have to do the painting/hobbying side of things! Maybe bring the Battle Companies book along with you when you do and show off the variety of warbands they can choose from :)
@Guru_Swami
@Guru_Swami Жыл бұрын
@@BecauseOfDragons wonderful ideas, thank you!
@Torkijo
@Torkijo Жыл бұрын
About to start this but wondering, how many minis do I need? I am playing Last Alliance but I have no idea how many i need to paint up as prefer to do them all at once to ensure consistency in scheme
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
You only technically need to paint up the Starting Battle Company to get started. But, if you want to get some miniatures ready for the future - I'd look at the Reinforcements list and maybe paint up one or two of each option so you can add them (use as replacements) as and when it comes up from rolls. Thankfully, you've got quite a small list so it's not too bad!
@Torkijo
@Torkijo Жыл бұрын
@@BecauseOfDragons How big does a company get over time?
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
@@Torkijo 15 models is usually the max
@AdamUmak
@AdamUmak Жыл бұрын
As a new player, is it wiser to buy the new Battlehosts or the Battle Companies? Thanks!
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Battlehosts I would say as they give you characters and loads of warriors too - they are great entry points into the game. You can then use the contents of the Battlehosts to have a look at doing Battle Companies :)
@AdamUmak
@AdamUmak Жыл бұрын
@@BecauseOfDragons OK great.... because I already bought battlehosts based on the recommendation from your last video. Thanks!
@EntmootVideos
@EntmootVideos Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Battle Companies is the worst way to play SBG. It creates too much paperwork, takes away the iconic heroes from The Lord of the Rings and replaces them with chaff. I’d highly recommend playing 200pt games to start with!
@BecauseOfDragons
@BecauseOfDragons Жыл бұрын
Oh I totally agree that starting around the 200 point level and working up with some of those heroes is a great way to start. As someone who loves Mordheim/Necromunda/Stargrave/Frostgrave and the like though, I am very drawn to these narrative-style affairs where you build your own heroes haha - I think there's something to be said, as I mentioned in another comment, for doing this alongside collecting a regular force for MESBG :) But, as I've said before - the best thing about MESBG is that it works for LOADS of different approaches!
@relic222
@relic222 Жыл бұрын
The paperwork was the reason I created Battle Companies Manager. It was a nightmare trying to keep track of multiple companies, and make sure everyone was calculating the points correctly, but if you use Battle Companies Manager it does it all for you - you can literally go from one game to the next without having to do any maths yourself. As for losing the iconic heroes, the stories you create with your own models completely alleviates that for me. I play a bit of both - the main game to use my favourite heroes and bigger armies, and Battle Companies to create my own fun side stories within Middle Earth. Best of both worlds.
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