Battle of Fort Sumter: Igniting the Civil War

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We all know the ending of the American Civil War, but what were the first events that started it?
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@duncancurtis5971
@duncancurtis5971 Жыл бұрын
Simon should cover the whole conflict, every battle 1861 to 65.
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
So much details would be overlooked if he attempted to make a 24 minute video on the entire conflict.
@Armytankbowen
@Armytankbowen Жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 make a whole series
@adamloverin231
@adamloverin231 Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Simon and his whole team, I’m not sure they could approach Ken Burns on this scale. (Though seeing Sam give it a shot would CERTAINLY be worth the effort.)
@ZiggaBIZ
@ZiggaBIZ Жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh.... Away down South in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators Right away! Come away! Right away! Right away, come away! Where cotton's king and men are chattels Union boys will win the battles Right away! Come away! Right away, come away!
@chrisholmes4507
@chrisholmes4507 Жыл бұрын
Only if they pepper his narration a lot zingers like"...he decided to nuke the whole poultry farm".😂😂😂!
@bullpupgaming708
@bullpupgaming708 Жыл бұрын
Hearing Simon say the conversation between Seymour and Doubleday, you'd almost imagine it was a conversation between 2 British Officers with how gentlemanly it sounds
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 Жыл бұрын
"By God sir, you've lost your leg!" "By God sir, you're right!"
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial Жыл бұрын
They, most likely, sounded more similar to Simon than they did any modern Americans.
@PalmelaHanderson
@PalmelaHanderson Жыл бұрын
@@negativeindustrial Depends on how recently their families had emigrated. The non-rhotic accent (not pronouncing the R's) didn't really start to propagate England until the early 19th century, and even then it was mostly in the major cities for many decades. Before that, the English accent likely sounded like some mixture of modern day Irish and rural East Anglian.
@svenrio8521
@svenrio8521 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Zulu
@MR2Davjohn
@MR2Davjohn Жыл бұрын
"Mary Seymour and Jonathan Doubleday we're overtaken, by the bishop, in the midst of intense intercourse." At the time this meant, among other things, serious conversation or debate.
@BoyNamedSue4
@BoyNamedSue4 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Ft. Sumter. The island itself is tiny. The thought of being bombarded from all sides is terrifying.
@elizabethamurray1
@elizabethamurray1 16 күн бұрын
You can still see mortars embedded in the wall
@samwilkins2004
@samwilkins2004 Жыл бұрын
So if anyone is wondering. He has it wrong by minute 4. I don't fault him for that, he has alot of content to cover in many different videos. The Oligarchs in the South went to War because they just didn't want Slavery, they wanted and demanded the expansion of slavery. It became clear, especially early on that the Southern Aristocrats didn't even want Democracy anymore. But Autocracy. To build a continent wide Empire built on slavery. It's truly horrifying to think what they would have accomplished had they fought to a peace deal. Southern politicians were so prolific in their writing for the disdain of Democracy that it became very clear, and very easy to understand that this wasn't about States rights or anything else. It was 100% about the expansion of slavery and by definition the expansion of their power.
@mathewm7136
@mathewm7136 Жыл бұрын
eh...close. The South knew that eventually newly formed non-slave states in the plains and west would remove all power that they had in the house and senate.
@samwilkins2004
@samwilkins2004 Жыл бұрын
@@mathewm7136 Yes. Because for Slavery to continue to hold power, it needed to be expanded. If you can't expand you power, do it my separating from the United States and building your own slave autocracy. Any period work goes over this and explains that Southern leaders were oligarchs. Exact wordage.
@coling3957
@coling3957 Жыл бұрын
Side note. Anderson had been an instructor at West Point. A young cadet Beauregard one of his students. He taught him artillery.
@physetermacrocephalus2209
@physetermacrocephalus2209 Жыл бұрын
The fort is soo small in person. All of the paintings seem to make it appear three times larger then it actually is.
@mandalor45
@mandalor45 Жыл бұрын
Bunker Sumpter just doesn't have the same ring I guess
@cliffordgallegos6155
@cliffordgallegos6155 Жыл бұрын
Was able to visit it a few years back. I still don't understand how they lifted those massive cannon up with a wooden lift. The guy working there showed me the picturs. It still seems impossible.
@dopaminedreams1122
@dopaminedreams1122 Жыл бұрын
@@cliffordgallegos6155 Wood and pulleys are amazingly strong, think about it, the pantheon in rome had massive concrete blocks raised the same way.
@Oxtocoatl13
@Oxtocoatl13 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea most of the soldiers at Sumter were immigrants. Imagine leaving Sweden to pursue prosperity in the new world only to find yourself hunkering in a claustrophobic bunker under relentless shelling next to an Irishman and an Italian.
@doomy_mcdoomerson
@doomy_mcdoomerson Жыл бұрын
If that Irishman had had some alcohol, the civil war would’ve ended the day it started.
@HigHrvatski
@HigHrvatski Жыл бұрын
Its like a beginning of a joke. A Swede, Italian and an Irishman walk into a fort together.
@samwilkins2004
@samwilkins2004 Жыл бұрын
And now today, people try and tell us all sorts of bullshit about immigrants in our country.
@gnenian
@gnenian Жыл бұрын
I'm sure the Nordics will have ordered things under some middle man system that avoided any unpleasantness that could arise in that situation.
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Жыл бұрын
An now they bomb us with I Kia
@pax6833
@pax6833 Жыл бұрын
How the war of Southern Aggression kicked off
@WasabiSniffer
@WasabiSniffer 10 ай бұрын
It’s an incredible contrast, the bloodiest conflict in American history beginning with a battle with no casualties. A Civil War series would be great
@ImWearingPantsNow
@ImWearingPantsNow 6 ай бұрын
Civilwarographics...
@michaelsinger4638
@michaelsinger4638 Жыл бұрын
It’s ironic given how few casualties were suffered here. Vs. what a bloodbath the war would turn into later.
@weirdshibainu
@weirdshibainu Жыл бұрын
Pretty typical when you think about it.
@HigHrvatski
@HigHrvatski Жыл бұрын
Israel killed more US sailors in the USS Liberty attack and still no war.
@ryanc473
@ryanc473 Жыл бұрын
I just want to reiterate, I'd love to see this channel cover other major battles in the American Civil/Revolutionary wars. The top two off the top of my head would have to be Gettysburg and Bull Run/Manassas (depending on of you're looking at it from the Confederacy side or the Union side) Edit: and yeah, I get that Simon has covered some of these on his other channels, but still, it would be cool to see on this channel as well
@doublepoet7852
@doublepoet7852 10 ай бұрын
My take on battles are if you win the battle you get to name it. So instead of Sharpsburg we should say Antietam. Instead of bull run we should say mannasass
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 Жыл бұрын
1:20 - Chapter 1 - Half slave, half free 6:00 - Chapter 2 - The last outpost 11:00 - Chapter 3 - The march to war 15:40 - Chapter 4 - Guns blazing in the night 19:15 - Chapter 5 - Bloodless victory 22:30 - Chapter 6 - Exile & return
@HeroSword_P
@HeroSword_P Жыл бұрын
Hero of the comments section 👏
@NiallStJohn
@NiallStJohn Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on the New Mexico campaign fought by Henry Hopkins Sibley during the Civil War. It's not talked about much but it is really interesting.
@xenawirtz1303
@xenawirtz1303 Жыл бұрын
Same with the battle of picacho peak the furthest west battle of the civil war.
@NiallStJohn
@NiallStJohn Жыл бұрын
@@xenawirtz1303 I've reenacted that battle as well as Glorieta Pass.
@DSS-jj2cw
@DSS-jj2cw Жыл бұрын
That campaign should be made into a movie.
@travisinthetrunk
@travisinthetrunk Жыл бұрын
@@xenawirtz1303 I read that as pikachu. I may need glasses.
@mariovidoni2555
@mariovidoni2555 Жыл бұрын
The battle was in the background of the Good, Bad Ugly movie.
@giveemdasauc3531
@giveemdasauc3531 Жыл бұрын
🎶 Each Dixie boy must understand, That he must mind his Uncle Sam 🎶
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
The Fire eater Edmund Ruffin, a politician not soldier fired the first shot on Sumter. He committed suicide when the South was eventually defeated.
@TheJunehog
@TheJunehog Жыл бұрын
Good.
@NagatoOPRESSORTHUGLIFE
@NagatoOPRESSORTHUGLIFE 11 ай бұрын
Coward
@cameronmcleod8419
@cameronmcleod8419 2 ай бұрын
Love a story with a happy ending.
@scottrick7321
@scottrick7321 Жыл бұрын
First time I've ever heard the Confederacy described as 'red.' Grey is the traditional descriptor...
@randalpumpkin2788
@randalpumpkin2788 Жыл бұрын
Great video, absolutely love this channel ! Congrats on 100k subscribers!
@raydaguanno658
@raydaguanno658 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this Simon
@rickflash448
@rickflash448 Жыл бұрын
I know its a tad callous, but I would love a Monty Python-like comedy covering this event. "It is quite a miracle no one died" *cannon explodes off screen* "Well. Nuts."
@sydhenderson6753
@sydhenderson6753 Жыл бұрын
It really helped Fort Pickens that it is on Santa Rosa Island which is a long spit of land that guards Pensacola Harbor rather than in the harbor itself. Made it much easier to reinforce and supply and very difficult to attack. Of the three minor forts that held out, one is on Key West and one on the Dry Tortugas. (The latter is where some of the Lincoln assassination conspirators were held.) The third is Fort Monroe at the tip of the Virginia Peninsula near the mouth of Chesapeake Bay. It''s now in Hampton, Virginia.
@jeffmcdonald4225
@jeffmcdonald4225 Жыл бұрын
The biggest mistake made, which we are still paying for, was being entirely too lenient with the secessionists.
@williamstocker584
@williamstocker584 10 ай бұрын
So if they were tougher there wouldn’t be any school shootings or sex trafficking rings
@elizabethamurray1
@elizabethamurray1 16 күн бұрын
As a present day Charlestonian, l agree! Neoconfederates are a disgrace to our country!!
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 Жыл бұрын
Very well done!
@andrewsmith9179
@andrewsmith9179 Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how useless James Buchanan was for the most part.
@hansdelbruck8286
@hansdelbruck8286 Жыл бұрын
The president before and after The US Civil War were both terrible.
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
*Wilson, Carter, Clinton, and Biden cough and slowly sneak out the back door*
@andrewsmith9179
@andrewsmith9179 Жыл бұрын
@@Dank-gb6jn cough cough sleeping joe is leaving the room
@andrewsmith9179
@andrewsmith9179 Жыл бұрын
@@hansdelbruck8286 your not wrong
@COBALTCOVERT
@COBALTCOVERT Жыл бұрын
@@Dank-gb6jn Wilson and Clinton weren't entirely useless. Carter was too nice and small scale for the office. And Biden shows NO ONE over 70 should be in power.
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro Жыл бұрын
Some underrated wars you should cover - all wars of North and South yemen they were always fighting. Tajikistan civil war of 90s.
@cleverusername9369
@cleverusername9369 Жыл бұрын
"Underrated" is a REALLY weird choice of words when it comes to describing macro scale violent conflicts...
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter Жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@nickdaveNDM
@nickdaveNDM Жыл бұрын
As a Texan, it blows my mind that I have neighbors who celebrate this stuff. The cheering as the American flag fell, the confederates weren't heroes fighting for states rights against a tyrannical government. They were people who committed treason, who chose to fight against the US, who fought all this to keep human beings enslaved. The only states right they cared about was the right to own slaves. It's terrible, really
@matthews8580
@matthews8580 Жыл бұрын
Whenever a confederate apologist brings up states rights I bring up the fugitive slave act. Southern states LOVED the federal government when they could use it to force free states to hand over enslaved people back to their owners... what about the Northern states rights?
@nickdaveNDM
@nickdaveNDM Жыл бұрын
@@matthews8580 yeah, it's sad to me, even now everyone talks about their rights but only care about those rights that apply to them. Secession was literal treason, they were traitors. People simultaneously celebrate the confederacy while calling themselves patriotic. Patriotism doesn't mean leaving the country when you don't like what it's doing. Patriotism means standing up for what's right, and sticking around through the negative parts to work to make the country a better place
@aw5557
@aw5557 Жыл бұрын
Thank God Im not the only one who thinks the exact same thing.
@ZiggaBIZ
@ZiggaBIZ Жыл бұрын
@KILL SHOT Ohhhhh.... Away down South in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes & alligators Right away! Come away! Right away! Right away, come away! Where cotton's king & men are chattels Union boys will win the battles Right away! Come away! Right away, come away!
@HigHrvatski
@HigHrvatski Жыл бұрын
You sound like a Californian who moved to Texas in the last couple of years. That's your opinion, they have a different one. That's how conflicts happen. And how many leftist protest today have burned the US flags? All of them. Nobody calls them traitors.
@YanBaoQin
@YanBaoQin Жыл бұрын
My ancestor Charles Bringhurst was one of the original defenders of Fort Sumter
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 Жыл бұрын
Great work as usual Simon. Glad to see this channel taking off.
@maccurtis730
@maccurtis730 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to that Battle of Bullrun video.
@GraniteStateofMind
@GraniteStateofMind Жыл бұрын
The quippy one-liners from the union captains makes it sound so much more real, so much more human…
@BruceMusto
@BruceMusto Жыл бұрын
Timely piece.
@taylormerrick9521
@taylormerrick9521 Жыл бұрын
Do Hatfields and McCoy’s
@sebresludolf9611
@sebresludolf9611 Жыл бұрын
*Please make a video on the Russo Japanese war and the sino Japanese wars.*
@KW-qd1bi
@KW-qd1bi Жыл бұрын
Russo Japanese war was covered a few months ago
@richardjameskemp911
@richardjameskemp911 Жыл бұрын
How about doing the Battle of Brunanburgh? That was apparently one hell of a fight.
@tortoise9181
@tortoise9181 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, But could you also cover the Franco-Dutch war ?
@DownwithEA1
@DownwithEA1 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how still to this day in the North no one is bitter or even thinks about the war & some of the South still is sour about it. Never even noticed this until spending more time in the south
@johnq5284
@johnq5284 Жыл бұрын
Why would the Victor be bitter about victory.
@DownwithEA1
@DownwithEA1 Жыл бұрын
@@johnq5284 The history after WW I has a lot to say on that. Lingering feelings of bitterness is understandable but never letting it go is gonna lead to a bad time.
@ericg7044
@ericg7044 Жыл бұрын
@@johnq5284 Not bitter about the victory but maybe bitter about the causes, attitudes and the carnage brought about by the war.
@cameronmcleod8419
@cameronmcleod8419 2 ай бұрын
There are absolutely folks up north who are bitter about the betrayals in reconstruction. The Klan was basically allowed to reestablish southern social aristocracy unabated by federal intervention. This failure allowed for every modern political disaster from Nixon to Trump to take place.
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 Жыл бұрын
5:38 my great-great-great-great-great-Grandfather enlisted gladly at the outbreak of the American Civil War, no doubt caught up in the romanticism of war as a young man. He fought U.S. Grant in Tennessee for a good while, but there is a story about his time in the Service. At one point he was charged with delivering draft notices to young men. When one attempted to outrun him, he shot him in the back as he ran and the man was dead before he hit the ground. He later was haunted by this memory. Everything was lost. He died in a swamp in 1912.
@nolongerblocked6210
@nolongerblocked6210 Жыл бұрын
As a child my parents took us to Myrtle Beach for summer vacation a few different years. One yr we decided that since we were in SC we'd take the drive over to Fort Sumter for the day.. bcuz my family is full of history nerds, lol. We saw what's left, got to explore around & learned about the battle as well. Horrible times for our country but very interesting
@ramona14220
@ramona14220 Жыл бұрын
When Sherman's army got to Columbia S.C. ,the state capitol, they burnt down half the city. Revenge for starting the war.
@thrawn_wave4927
@thrawn_wave4927 Жыл бұрын
"Starting the war"
@mathewm7136
@mathewm7136 Жыл бұрын
Just like he burned down Atlanta...no, wait...the Rebs did that to deny any useful resources.
@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015
@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015 Жыл бұрын
@@thrawn_wave4927 Because attacking a fort just exudes a sense of peace and cordiality
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Жыл бұрын
@@britisharmedforcesmilsim3015 Not to mention just abandoning your nation and betraying the point of democracy because a fair presidential election didn’t go there way.
@jasonbarber5885
@jasonbarber5885 Жыл бұрын
Abner Doubleday would be a great character for your biographics channel Simon!
@poletooke4691
@poletooke4691 9 ай бұрын
24:25 "and some simply just drunk" I mean, true
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 Жыл бұрын
Simon failed to mention British interference during the American Civil War. Britain was officially neutral, however merchants and shipbuilders from Manchester and Liverpool constructed warships (the CSS Alabama was but one of several) and equipped the Confederates with ships and weapons in exchange for cotton. The Union made protests which forced the British government to put a halt to English shipyards building vessels for the Confederates. It was estimated that British actions prolonged the war by up to 2 years. Also, at the conclusion of the war the US filed claims against Britain (the Alabama Claims) which resulted in the eventual payment of some 15 million dollars being paid to the US as compensation.
@outdoorlife5396
@outdoorlife5396 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the forts was this, by the time they were built, there obsolete
@jason60chev
@jason60chev Жыл бұрын
Pvt Haynesworth was a Cadet, at the South Carolina Military Institute, today, known as The Citadel, The Military College of South Carolina. In late Dec. 1860, Gov Pickens had ordered the Cadets to Morris Island, to prepare defensive works, along the beach. The Cadet Battery had about 4 30 Pounder cannon. On that9 Jan 1861 morning, the Cadet Battery managed a handful of hits on the Star of the West. This event is immortalized on our class rings, with a large star, on one side and a Battle Streamer adorns the Citadel's colors. Several years ago, a large Red Flag with a white Palmetto tree, was discovered in Iowa and what is about 99% certain, is the actual flag flown by the Cadet Battery,on that morning. It is currently onloan, to the Citadel, pending negotiation. We call her, "BIG RED" and is the college's "Spirit flag"
@Randy-nk2ne
@Randy-nk2ne Жыл бұрын
Do a video on 1st and 2nd manassas
@multiyapples
@multiyapples Жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
Cover the Siege of Fredericksburg next. It had one of the most gentlemanly, and inspiring acts of heroism of the entire war; taking place during the fighting at Marye’s Heights.
@slippysnek9507
@slippysnek9507 Жыл бұрын
this.
@pyromania1018
@pyromania1018 Жыл бұрын
Or the siege of Vicksburg.
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
@@pyromania1018 as long as we cover the brutality that civilians faced inside the city; specifically the overwhelming starvation and bombardment; which violated paragraph 25 of the Leiber Code, as that protected civilians, “especially women and children” from bombardment.
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
Just ignore all the other federal forts and armories rebels attacked long before Fort Sumter. Plus, the attack on Fort Sumter wasn't even the first aggressive action taken there. Rebel artillery fired upon federal supply ships causing them to retreat and not deliver the munitions that the fort could have used to destroy the rebel batteries.
@svenrio8521
@svenrio8521 Жыл бұрын
He explained that in the video
@Nick-fh4wd
@Nick-fh4wd Жыл бұрын
Can you maybe make a Nat Turner video please Sounded interesting
@jackmason5278
@jackmason5278 Жыл бұрын
You failed to mention Edmund Ruffin, the man who was given the honour of firing the first shot in that battle. He was down in South Carolina to do some surveying for the governor. He requested, and was granted, the privilege of firing on Fort Sumter. He was temporarily inducted into the South Carolina militia so that could happen.
@twomble5002
@twomble5002 Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing. I grew up a few miles from Ruffin’s farm in Hanover, VA. I was in Boy Scouts with some of his direct descendants when I was a teenager. His name used to show up all over the place around here.
@paulfrancistorres7144
@paulfrancistorres7144 Жыл бұрын
What happened to him after that?
@jackmason5278
@jackmason5278 Жыл бұрын
@@paulfrancistorres7144 Unfortunately, Union troops burned down his precious library. That, plus the fact that his "loyal" slaves failed to do anything to prevent it, led him to commit suicide.
@thecreepnextdoor7560
@thecreepnextdoor7560 Жыл бұрын
@@jackmason5278 “hey don’t touch the library” “We’re here to free you” “On second thought, I don’t think we have a library”
@Mecha82
@Mecha82 Жыл бұрын
@@jackmason5278 Why should his slave had been loyal to him? that thinking doesn't make any sense.
@duncancurtis5971
@duncancurtis5971 Жыл бұрын
No battle no Blondy no Tuco no Angel Eyes and no Bill Carson and his grave of lovely loot..
@deanb4799
@deanb4799 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does a British accent make a documentary just a tiny bit better?
@Tortall2012
@Tortall2012 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the day after Robert Anderson raised the Stars and Stripes at Fort Sumpter, Abraham Lincoln was shot in the back of the head by John Wilkes Booth, a confederate sympathizer. History is as amazing as it is depressing.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын
What's amazing history is that John Booth's brother once saved the life of Lincoln's son by keeping him from falling in front of a train.
@SamI-jk5vt
@SamI-jk5vt Жыл бұрын
simon is like the nicolas cage of youtube
@jimvick8397
@jimvick8397 Жыл бұрын
9:51 the best 10 seconds in internet history?
@melangellatc1718
@melangellatc1718 Жыл бұрын
First shots of Civil War by Citadel cadets Haynesworth and Pinkey. Yea, my college, The Citadel, started the Civil War. It's on the class ring.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
Is it true that in the early battles of the civil war, people took picnic baskets to see the battles?
@christopherturner240
@christopherturner240 Жыл бұрын
Yes at Bull run people from Washington came to watch and when the Union troops went into a fanatic retreat they ran with them
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherturner240 *facepalm*
@punksoab
@punksoab Жыл бұрын
It was also common during the Napoleonic wars
@paulceglinski3087
@paulceglinski3087 Жыл бұрын
Yes, at First Manassas people came out to watch. The battleground was not that far from Washington DC. Once the Federals were routed, those civilians spread more panic and generally got in the way. A Confederate officer caught one of these civilians, who happened to be a member of the House of Representatives, he threatened to shoot the fool because he held him responsible for the mess. The Rep was released, probably with a change of underwear.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
@@punksoab It seems to me that 19th century people had a peculiar taste in entertainment.
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver Жыл бұрын
Dang what an ending.
@mktf5582
@mktf5582 Жыл бұрын
The Attack on Fort Sumter was the equivalent of Julius Caesar (Crossing The Rubicon), there was no going back.
@fateagle4life
@fateagle4life Жыл бұрын
Same could be said about US troops not leaving Sumpter. They left one fort and sat in another. Perhaps, there would have been no war, but if this wouldn't have happened Lincoln couldn't have declared war and restore the union. Lincoln knew what he was doing.
@KW-qd1bi
@KW-qd1bi Жыл бұрын
Please do the iran-iraq war
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
Lee was a great army commander. As strategist he was a total failure. He only thought about Virginia. Grant was the far better General, tactically, operationally and strategically. His Vicksburg campaign was more successful than anything Lee accomplished in Virginia.
@als3022
@als3022 Жыл бұрын
To be fair it isn't until 1865 that Lee is given any semblance of command of all armies. And that's when the war is basically over by that point. Grant is a better overall general, but his tenacity is his greatest skill. He makes several deadly blunders and has the option of going further because of the supplies and manpower.
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
@@als3022 I'd say Lee abandoned Vicksburg in 1863, which pretty much cost the South the war, for his failed Gettysburg campaign. He could have easily moved those troops to Mississippi to relieve Vicksburg. The Army of the Potomac wasn't a immediate threat after the Wilderness. He was practically forced to transfer Longstreet to Bragg which resulted in Chickamauga. Lee had his fair share of bloody repulses like Cold Harbor. Malvern Hill during the 7 days and Pickett for example. He never willingly detached troops to defend anything but Virginia and Richmond. Ps they still stood a pretty good chance in April of 63 of not losing. Check out Grants Vicksburg campaign. He didn't have a supply line, was surrounded by Confederate forces larger than his own, and no place to retreat won every battle, and captured an entire Confederate army, because Lee was off to Pennsylvania.
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
Honestly, while I give Grant more credit as a tenacious and I guess more motivated(?) General; Lee would’ve likely been better served had he held supreme command earlier in the war. He relied too heavily upon men like Jackson (who was stellar in his own right), Longstreet, and Bell-Hood. Further, Grant just had more supplies all around. While in later conflicts, numerically and technologically superior forces were sometimes beaten by lower skilled, less well equipped forces (Vietnam, and Afghanistan (multiple times)); by the later stages of the war, it was almost inevitable that without the necessary supplies; Lee would lose.
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
@@Dank-gb6jn only During the Overland campaign. He had none of those advantages during his Vicksburg campaign. It wasn't until Johnson had been driven off and Pemberton was trapped, did that apply. Lee never willingly detached troops outside of Virginia, he could have relieved Vicksburg. If Jackson had been at Gettysburg, the war would have a different ending, but he wasn't. Lee's best campaign, the Seven Days, he lost 4 of 6 battles tactically, Johnson lost 1. But he faced McLellan and won a strategic victory since he fell back despite what his staff advised.
@Dank-gb6jn
@Dank-gb6jn Жыл бұрын
@@scottkrater2131 oh I’m not doubting you. I think the Vicksburg campaign was a major blunder for Lee, along with Gettysburg. Lee’s decision to let his subordinates lead was his undoing imo. Grant delegated sparingly, along with his belief in the doctrine of total war; but that’s a can of worms for another day.
@tatedavis2016
@tatedavis2016 Жыл бұрын
I was in Charleston visiting family for Spring Break and I saw Fort Sumter, the actual fort itself and the ferry of people going towards it on the tour. My dumbass 9 year old self decided I wanted to go to the aquarium instead. I need to rectify that mistake.
@billfsmusic
@billfsmusic Жыл бұрын
It IS a nice aquarium, tho
@lucianoarrieta5786
@lucianoarrieta5786 Жыл бұрын
Wonder when you guys will do a Biographics on Licoln…you did one regarding the worst president ever, J Buchanan, when are you going to do one regarding the one that may have been the greatest?
@Talisguy
@Talisguy Жыл бұрын
I keep being stunned that they haven't covered Lincoln yet. Covering Buchanan first, I get, but...Taft? Before Lincoln? Bold choice.
@markdturnock
@markdturnock Жыл бұрын
Saving the best for last?
@stevedietrich8936
@stevedietrich8936 Жыл бұрын
Worst president? Andrew Johnson wants a chance to speak before the nominating committee.
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 Жыл бұрын
I remember one death on the Union side, accidentally. I wasn't there, of course. I was born 88 years after the Civil War had ended. But, I read a book.
@Eirik36
@Eirik36 Жыл бұрын
Hey I live in Charleston! Ha
@fadingjedi
@fadingjedi Жыл бұрын
To be fair Charleston Bay was the largest harbor south of the Chesapeake and one of the busiest of the time. The fort was effectively holding the harbor hostage.
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
And? It's a US port, there is no Confederate nation, only states involved in an illegal insurrection. The Federal government never recognized the Confederacy as an independent entity.
@als3022
@als3022 Жыл бұрын
@@scottkrater2131 Technically aren't all insurrections illegal unless they succeed. I am sure King George III saw the revolution as an insurrection against British sovereignty. What makes it different is who wins and who loses.
@scottkrater2131
@scottkrater2131 Жыл бұрын
@@als3022 that's the truth, we'd all be Tories if the Crown won. Not so with other groups. Doesn't justify the Confederacy. It's been tried in court in Texas I believe, some time after the war.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын
Exactly how does an a US fort hold a US harbor (with ships conducting US trade to serve US citizens) hostage?
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
On the bright side, this battle had the least causalities of the Civil War.
@Exxar-Kuun
@Exxar-Kuun Жыл бұрын
Teeeeeeny little town in the hills of the ghastly gold towns in eastern, called sumpter. Even has a fort
@jameshagan2832
@jameshagan2832 Жыл бұрын
fun fact: major anderson was the great grandfather of Montgomery cliff
@maryhough8041
@maryhough8041 3 ай бұрын
It’s actually pronounced “How” Hough is one of my ancestors!! My grandfather was Daniel Hough III
@markhough1027
@markhough1027 Жыл бұрын
I love to see the 1798 Irish rebellion please
@danicalifornia505
@danicalifornia505 Жыл бұрын
Can we get Sherman’s march through the Carolinas?
@8rickey
@8rickey Жыл бұрын
Even today South Carolina is too small to be a state, too large to be an insane asylum.
@amandastevenson4948
@amandastevenson4948 Жыл бұрын
I just a personal account from an original civil war veteran at the age of 16 he did it for his state and his friends not for slavery
@skyden24195
@skyden24195 Жыл бұрын
"...And some simply just drunk." -For some people, any reason to get smashed drunk is a good enough reason to do anything, even fight a war.
@averywinters2400
@averywinters2400 Жыл бұрын
As a United States citizen this scares me how similar this is to current day events/divides in the country
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 Жыл бұрын
Yes ironic especially since the Union is eliminating private ownership of single family homes so that most Americans will be enslaved renters living in multifamily housing owned by super wealthy corporate owners. I peacefully (for now) oppose the union (USA) and proudly fly the Bonnie Blue Flag and the 13 star 1st National Flag of the Confederate States of America in celebration of the July 4 1776 revolution and to also celebrate that other revolution against Federal tyranny. Though the South lost the war of secession happily 365,000 Union Soldiers and Sailors were killed along with the assassination of tyrant Lincoln. I prefer global thermonuclear war to a tyrant nation (USA) of enslaved renters
@2070paradigmshift
@2070paradigmshift Жыл бұрын
You are right about that. People don't have any empathy or compassion for each other. Both sides trying to dehumanize the other.
@Deadener
@Deadener Жыл бұрын
Sincerely recommend reading up on Bleeding Kansas. People were literally killing each other in a full on war. You had senators beating the s**t out of each other on the Floor. They even started carrying guns when they convened, because they feared their fellow senators. Political killings, towns being irreparably torched, opposing political enemies fighting in the streets in real battles. Not riots. Battles. Shooting guns at each other. Slicing each other's necks with swords and knives. Executions. Massacres. This was all YEARS before the civil war even started. We aren't even close. What we have right now is a couple tiny ragtag militias waiting for an order from their prince, and a bunch of boomers on TikTok calling for civil war from the easy chair. It's utterly pathetic. None of them even know where to start. The country is so different today, with a far stronger federal government, and a much higher population. The North/South divide is essentially gone with red and blue states scattered and intertwined across the country. Will there be violence and riots? You bet. But an actual war? Sincere doubt.
@m9078jk3
@m9078jk3 Жыл бұрын
@@Deadener It's pretty much the same. I had a police officer (Tacoma Police Department CLO) tell me that if I ever harmed any gang thug kids that were merely using deadly weapons on me in multiple assaults,robberies and several attempted murder attempts that I suffered injuries, that I would go to prison for defending myself (lawfully). I now view that specific LEO has committed treason against me and the Country denying and alienating my unalienable right of life as contracted in the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and also the U S Constitution. That specific Law Enforcement Officer violated his sworn oath of office as he swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America as a civil servant. I also view that as an agent of the USA ,the USA has also violated my unalienable rights as defined and violated the contract. I was also nearly murdered in the year 2019 with multiple injuries in a hospital for over a weeks time. Not good for a 60 year old disabled heart patient at that time. Even so at age 63 I recognize the ugly face of tyranny.
@reggiefurlow1
@reggiefurlow1 Жыл бұрын
The echoes of the past reverberate today
@ehrldawg
@ehrldawg Жыл бұрын
Up next;Belleau Woods
@COACHWARBLE
@COACHWARBLE Жыл бұрын
Haynesworth was a student at the Citadel. Cadets Haynesworth and Pickens fired on the star of the west.
@donaldbowen1889
@donaldbowen1889 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 blue and gray 💙
@armandocass9320
@armandocass9320 Жыл бұрын
Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard was my great great great grandfather
@aaronjohnson718
@aaronjohnson718 Жыл бұрын
This helps to prove that the seceded states were the aggressors the seceded southern states fired the first shots at fort sumter and after saying that they would allow Kentucky to be neutral they were the first to try to put a fort on Kentucky soil which pretty much guaranteed Kentucky to stay in the union
@waffles4322
@waffles4322 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, South Carolina still votes on secession every few years, and it's usually over 10% lol
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын
Then the federal government should start withholding over 10% of the social security payments, veterans benefits, highway funds, Medicare, federal retirement payments, etc., etc., to residents of South Carolina, until they can all make it out of the 4th grade and begin to understand the concept of reality.
@poopmcgee2410
@poopmcgee2410 Жыл бұрын
Abner Doubleday, the guy who invented baseball
@bigkingspeakerdwestemperor5068
@bigkingspeakerdwestemperor5068 3 ай бұрын
April 14th 1865 was also the day Lincoln was shot.
@vengeance5537
@vengeance5537 Жыл бұрын
24:26 - roflmao
@pyromania1018
@pyromania1018 Жыл бұрын
"Call me crazy, but... all I see is *SOUTHERN* aggression." ~Andrew Rakich, 2020
@martinford4553
@martinford4553 Жыл бұрын
"YOU YELLOW BELLIED HORSE THIEF"😂
@micahistory
@micahistory Жыл бұрын
SECOND one here. Last time I was this early, the civil war was still ongoing
@ronaldschoolcraft8654
@ronaldschoolcraft8654 Жыл бұрын
You must not know about Fort Jefferson. It remained in Union hands throughout the war. It also happens to be the largest masonry structure in the western hemisphere. You should really do better research.
@MalikF15
@MalikF15 Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand about loss cause revisionists is that some claim It was a war of northern aggression but really who fired the first shot
@DerSchleier
@DerSchleier Жыл бұрын
The Federal government (Lincoln) wanted to levy control over and taxation upon the Southern states for they constituted the fourth largest economy on Earth (superseded only by the three colonial empires). P.S. This YT creator is wrong in all regards.
@MalikF15
@MalikF15 Жыл бұрын
@@DerSchleier two points. First wasn’t southern officials diverting money from federal government to their own coffers before the war. Second who fired the first shot, we can debate additional factors it’s just calling it a war of northern aggression like some revisionists call it doesn’t have doesn’t line it with up the reality.
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 Ай бұрын
@@DerSchleier Lincoln wasn’t even president yet when the south left. Jefferson Davis was officially a president before Lincoln was and been allowed to actually do anything. Sounds like to me they just had a hissy fit a fair election didn’t go there way.
@bnet-nn7bu
@bnet-nn7bu Жыл бұрын
Anderson’s best student at West Point would be the Southern commander attacking the fort.
@calexander7495
@calexander7495 Жыл бұрын
Maybe tactics but not strategy. Ignitng the powder keg wasn't a great idea for his side.
@als3022
@als3022 Жыл бұрын
Was going to happen eventually.
@calexander7495
@calexander7495 Жыл бұрын
@@als3022 Even if true, there was value in not being viewed as the aggressor. Lincoln successfully goaded the Confederacy into taking the first shot, which was a huge propaganda win. The war wasn't all that popular and had the Union made the first aggressive actions it would have given dissenters in the North more ammunition to undermine the Union War effort. So regardless of if the war was inevitable, the taking of the fort was a strategic blunder from the Confederate perspective.
@Volfan1065
@Volfan1065 Жыл бұрын
@@calexander7495 True, but that wasn't Beauregard's call. Generals are subordinate to politicians. Or at least are supposed to be. In PGT's case, he was. Strategy is the realm of politicians. Generals and colonels deal in operational matters and logistics. Junior officers deal in tactics.
@ericl7416
@ericl7416 Жыл бұрын
simplified look at the causes of the war
@poletooke4691
@poletooke4691 9 ай бұрын
0:57 because it doesn't...? Sumter itself flows from like a hundred years of slavery tension, Sumter wasn't the start lol just the first explosion
@Phenom24uk
@Phenom24uk Жыл бұрын
"Nuke the whole god damn poultry farm!"
@CYCLONE4499
@CYCLONE4499 Жыл бұрын
Sadly we live in a time where this is still a possibility. I've lived in the US my entire life and in that 41 years I've never seen a country more polarized between the right and left than ever before. In the past both sides would still work together in congress. Nowadays bipartisanship is so rare its like seeing the pope ride a unicorn while having his ass spanked by a dominatrix. It just doesn't happen. When both sides stop working together its only a matter of time
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 Жыл бұрын
Actually, yes it does happen. Watch enough porn and you'll see it. Though I'm not sure it was the real pope.
@gerlandkent6377
@gerlandkent6377 Жыл бұрын
[ MY 3RD GREAT UNCLE WILLIAM H KENT COA 2ND LT 40TH VA INF CSA FOUGHT IN THIS WAR IN FORT SUMTER]
@chancewebster7953
@chancewebster7953 Жыл бұрын
This day in 1860 South Carolina Succeeded.
@fadingjedi
@fadingjedi Жыл бұрын
It wasn't the stars and bars at the time. There was no official confederate flag at that point. It would have been the south Carolina flag and later a white star on a blue field. Eventually the Confederate navel battle flag be raised over the fort but that was latter in the war.
@torabora
@torabora Жыл бұрын
It was the stars and bars. You’re picturing the battle flag. The 7-star “stars and bars” was already the flag of the confederacy for a month or so by then.
@shimadwan8251
@shimadwan8251 Жыл бұрын
Kaliningrad
@lancerogers9694
@lancerogers9694 Жыл бұрын
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