Battle of the Ports - The King Of Fighters '98 (ザ・キング・オブ・ファイターズ '98) Show

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Another show requested by the fans, here is Battle of the Ports King Of Fighters '98. I've not included the Xbbox live, PSN Store or the Virtual Console versions but I have included the PlayStation 2 remake that was also released in to the arcades in 2008.
Time Code
00:23 - Arcade
03:34 - Neo Geo AES
04:44 - Neo Geo CD
07:06 - PlayStation
09:16 - PlayStation 2
11:55 - Dreamcast
14:01 - All versions running side by side
Enjoy!

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@bombjack1984
@bombjack1984 5 жыл бұрын
Loving that Dreamcast version with its animated intro and 3D stages.
@fhagane6821
@fhagane6821 5 жыл бұрын
BEST fighting game still being played on tournaments all over the world in 2018 and beyond.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show how good it is.
@elisabettaeustacchi2676
@elisabettaeustacchi2676 5 жыл бұрын
Will Do Show 250 Frogger Please?
@manoelBneto
@manoelBneto 5 жыл бұрын
I love how close the 3D backgrounds in the Dreamcast look to the original ones. They blended very well with the pixel art characters since the game ran in 240p, at the cost of VGA compatibility.
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, K.O.F. '99 Evolution is also 240p only on Dreamcast. Kind of weird how both lack VGA modes at all since Street Fighter Alpha 3, Double Impact and even 3rd Strike had 240p/480p modes fully supported.
@ayanmohamoud8621
@ayanmohamoud8621 5 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves WAY more subscribers and views! Keep up the great work, Retro Core!
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure you watch it 12 times at least then.... do your part brother. ...
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 5 жыл бұрын
IKR!!! His content is awesome!!!
@A3manAMG
@A3manAMG 5 жыл бұрын
I had the Dreamcast version. Still the best version I had.
@norwingmartinez4683
@norwingmartinez4683 5 жыл бұрын
The best fighting of all time.
@robertdanker6193
@robertdanker6193 5 жыл бұрын
Kof 98 is my all time favorite!!! The Ultimate Match is by far the best version!! All the extra characters and extras make it AWESOME!! GREAT VIDEO!!!!
@GundamShockwave
@GundamShockwave 5 жыл бұрын
Always loved how snk took time when porting their fighting games to home consoles. Art of fighting, samurai showdown and fatal fury ran great even on the megadrive and snes
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Solution 66 SNK didn’t actually do ANY home ports themselves until the 32Bit consoles. And the SNES/Genesis ports ALL had tons of issues and gameplay alterations.
@RAMCARTGAMER
@RAMCARTGAMER 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my childhood trying to find a non expensive good home version to play. Classic game!
@ThomasMatthewByrne
@ThomasMatthewByrne 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark! The Steam port of KOF '98 Ultimate Match is worth checking out too - it's actually an exclusive update for the PC with tweaks and revisions to the PS2 port in the form of a 'Final Edition'.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about that. Thanks for the info. I wonder if they have reworked the difficulty ballance? I had a hard time getting in to the PS2 version.
@ThomasMatthewByrne
@ThomasMatthewByrne 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Core A lot of the changes are frame-time related for competitive play and no real tweaking to the AI in single player was implemented.
@MikeHuntSchmelz
@MikeHuntSchmelz 5 жыл бұрын
Watching the intro start up brought back memories of playing on neoragex and the happy feeling of being able to play at home and for free.
@arcademarkRR
@arcademarkRR 5 жыл бұрын
It’s my best fighting game ever, of all time!!!! Thank you 🙏, and as always, good job 👏👍!!!!
@ProbableKoz
@ProbableKoz 5 жыл бұрын
My introduction to KoF was KoF 98 on the Dreamcast and I have to say what a way to make a first impression. Well done video man!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
You jumped in at the right time. Any later and you would have probably been dissapointed.
@RaposaCadela
@RaposaCadela 5 жыл бұрын
WHOW!!! Those 3D background look amazing!
@sega_kid4288
@sega_kid4288 5 жыл бұрын
I love 98, but the orochi climax in 97 is my favorite story in all the 90s games. I'm always torn, just shows how great those games were.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
97 is also a favourite of mine. I'm not sure which I like better. KOF 97 or 98.
@azidahaka2
@azidahaka2 5 жыл бұрын
Karsten here mate, i thought you stated you would never touch KOF i nbattle of the ports :D glad you did!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Karsten. Yeah, how ideas change 😊. I've done 95, 96 and now 98. I thought I had covered '97 but seems I haven't.
@azidahaka2
@azidahaka2 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore btw i was wondering if we could find a way to make some video or vg related work together one of these days, i've been idle for very long :D
@craigjuan5744
@craigjuan5744 5 жыл бұрын
Your Battle of the Ports series are always fun to watch. King of Fighters '98 is my favorite in the series. Great job with this episode.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Craig.
@edwardboyz1000
@edwardboyz1000 5 жыл бұрын
Same the XBOX 360 Version!
@tuxedo_mask23
@tuxedo_mask23 5 жыл бұрын
I had turned 10 at the time of the Arcade release! No wonder this was my favorite in the series.
@jotakux7489
@jotakux7489 5 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorites. I’ve also owned all of those at one point. Anyways, amazing job as alway. Hope you do all the KOF’s. They all have very interesting ports.
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of the 3D remake's balance issues, so of course I like the original the most. '98 is one of the best KOF titles overall and I play the AES version on the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro. Thanks for the remind, let's fight a few rounds!
@JFD62780
@JFD62780 5 жыл бұрын
Separating the Neo-Geo Arcade and Home versions, that's a first! Well played :D
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not something I normally do but I felt the wealth of options on the home version made it a worthy addition. The actual game it 100% the same mind you.
@jeffroberts9693
@jeffroberts9693 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! One of my top fighters of all time. I owned a Neo Geo CD and this was my only game for a while so my buddies and I played it to death. Similar story when I imported a Dreamcast at launch. Suffice to say we played it a lot. One of the few fighters I can random characters and use them fairly effectively.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
It is a fantastic game. It's also at that time when many of the stage songs became really good.
@AaronRedding
@AaronRedding 5 жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast version is my favorite and really got me into SNK games
@sega_kid4288
@sega_kid4288 5 жыл бұрын
Same for me, loved street fighter but was always skeptical of king of fighters. But I got 98(dream match 99 in the US) for free when I got my DC back in 1999 and it sat on the shelf for a while but when I finally opened it, I spent more time playing it that Street fighter 3 lol.
@mauz4930
@mauz4930 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video comparison!
@neosenpai6944
@neosenpai6944 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate and Enjoy ur Show, Keep up the Amazing Work
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Neo Senpai.
@MadGaz85
@MadGaz85 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Match for me, since it has the characters missing from regular 98 that probably should have been there in the first place (namely Geese, Mr Big and Krauser. Plus Orochi and Goenitz as hidden bosses)
@gabrielloko30000
@gabrielloko30000 5 жыл бұрын
Ohh the ultimate match.....The selection screen music still stuck in my head
@atomiswave2
@atomiswave2 5 жыл бұрын
I love that intro song
@Artsensei86
@Artsensei86 5 жыл бұрын
Yes ! Love battle of the ports
@MechaFenris
@MechaFenris 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Dreamcast version, in spite of the non-VGA. :) (and because that's the one I have... heh.)
@samuraispiritsx
@samuraispiritsx 5 жыл бұрын
AES is my favorite. Also the 360 version was alright since it had online play.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
This should be quite an interesting one, since KoF 98 is so damned good.
@topofbones
@topofbones 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing BotP! KOF98 is playability at it's best. I miss a Saturn port...it would be fantastic for sure.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
It is a shame this never got a Saturn port but at least the Dreamcast got an interesting port.
@jesseklein6392
@jesseklein6392 5 жыл бұрын
Great show as usual.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 5 жыл бұрын
Arguably the best one....
@neuromancerwintermute8614
@neuromancerwintermute8614 Жыл бұрын
13:23 - certified Shingo player moment
@eduardosanchezbarrios5810
@eduardosanchezbarrios5810 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the 3D backgrounds
@oldirtygamer
@oldirtygamer 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best KoF
@williamhowe1
@williamhowe1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mah boi!
@PadPoet
@PadPoet 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite KOF! I was waiting when you would do KOF98 mate! Loved it!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to do KOF '97 next but due to the many requests for this one I went straight to it.
@internetjunkie5241
@internetjunkie5241 5 жыл бұрын
Great video i have this game on my Xboxone .
@gingataisen
@gingataisen 5 жыл бұрын
アケアカ NEOGEO all the way.
@thrillington2008
@thrillington2008 5 жыл бұрын
Another great offering Mark
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is already an amazing video by the name alone. This game looks so great!!! Did you know that there was a bootleg Genesis version made? Yes, I'm actually series. Look it up!!!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't know that. I'll have to check it out now.
@theodorerelic2718
@theodorerelic2718 5 жыл бұрын
Never had the Neo Geo version or had access to the arcade original. But I got the Dreamcast version shortly after its release and had a ball with it. Probably still have my original saves (and definitely still have my original game). Hell, just talking about it makes me want to fire it up again.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
The original look of the DC version makes it special IMO.
@theodorerelic2718
@theodorerelic2718 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore Oh yeah. I love the look of the game.
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 5 жыл бұрын
KoF never really jelled with me the way Samurai Showdown did.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm the opposite. I do like the Samurai Showdown series but I could never really get in to it despite owning the first 3 games. Tekken is another one I can't get in to. It feels stuff to me when compared to Virtua Fighter or Dead or Alive.
@James-fo8rf
@James-fo8rf 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Surprising no Saturn port but we have a great dream cast port instead. Btw your audio sounded a bit different, but very good. have you upgraded your mixer?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, same set up as always. I did tweek a few settings on the mic input if that's what you noticed was different.
@matthewhauxwell9716
@matthewhauxwell9716 5 жыл бұрын
Walk this way, talk this way.
@mrmadmight266
@mrmadmight266 5 жыл бұрын
I think i like both the Dreamcast and PS2 versions. i might try this game on my PS2, once i get a working controller for it. i belive i first played this game on a Neo-Geo emulator for the PSP that had it, i do recall enjoying the game.
@SuperKokuJin916
@SuperKokuJin916 5 жыл бұрын
Still love it. Although my best playing game was KOF'97, there is no denying how great KOF'98 truly is. It played like 97 but brought back everyone from 94-96. It's truly SNK's Marvel vs Capcom 2. Redundacy aside, I still would've liked to see a Saturn port even if just to show up the PS One one last time!! I still have my NGPC and DC link cable. Too bad my SvC: MOTM is MIA... >w< Great installment!
@vomithero
@vomithero 5 жыл бұрын
I have the MVS version of this game. I think it's one of the best in the KOF series, though I like 2000 a little more.
@AllieRX
@AllieRX 5 жыл бұрын
BURN KNUCKLE!! POWAA WAVE!!
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm my favorite version of this game? Well I have it on Wii's Orochi Saga, PS1, and on 98 UM, so I go with 98 UM due to the extra characters and options not found on the other releases. The DC version seems to use studio vocal samples due to sounding the cleanest, but the music has to restart each and every round, kind of annoying if you ask me.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I can't stand it when the music restarts each round.
@geoserenity
@geoserenity 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when the next king of fighters game would be
@CastleFamilyThe
@CastleFamilyThe 5 жыл бұрын
Overall based on extras, closest to original release and game price, the Neo-Geo CD version wins for me.
@rexon31
@rexon31 3 жыл бұрын
especially if you have a cdz
@StudioBadGuy
@StudioBadGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you could have used original hardware for the dreamcast version.They designed the 3D backgrounds with 240p in mind so they retain the look of the original NeoGeo sprites. It was very unique and had great execution. Great video , regardless.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
So do I. I need to get a RGB cable for my DC.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Also, probably due to being an emulator, but the Dreamcast footage is higher resolution than it’s supposed to be. Particularly the backgrounds.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
True. The whole game should be running in 240p.
@krazycharlie
@krazycharlie 5 жыл бұрын
The absence of a Saturn port is no surprise if you consider that by 1998 and going forward the Saturn was considered a "dead" system and so SNK wouldn't want to waste resources on it. The surprise for me is the absence of a GameBoy port given how SNK has released some KOF games on it, regardless of their chibi thematic. Great video as usual, Mark!
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Carlos Oyuela Takara did those ports and by that time the NGPC existed and they were putting all their major efforts there.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I still wish a Saturn port was made but still, we did get that awesome Dreamcast version which still looks better than the PS2 game that came almost 10 years later.
@sonikkyo
@sonikkyo 5 жыл бұрын
I want to point out that there’s a KOF 98 UM for Xbox Live. There’s no 3D background and no re-arrange soundtrack. But everything else is included. Including the original KOF 98 game.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is right. Somebody else also mentioned this.
@StRoRo
@StRoRo 5 жыл бұрын
Pity there was never a Saturn version.
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, good ol' The King Of Fighters '98. The best in the eyes of many in the series Mark. I love this game and gladly agree that it is the best for sure. The Neo-Geo AES and MVS are the best choices for me to play it on bro. Nothing against the NGCD version, but it takes too long to load. 8^) If you like, your welcome to also post this on the Neo-Geo thread over there as well bro. Anthony..
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm also a big fan of KOF 98. Maybe I like 97 a little more? Hard to say but I really do enjoy 98. For me the idea version would be the AES with arrange soundtrack.
@Reaperman4711
@Reaperman4711 5 жыл бұрын
I think you missed the PGM2 arcade port from 2009, unless I missed it in there. I've never played the arcade remakes, and probably spent the most time with the dreamcast version. It's my favorite KOF for sure.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
PMG2 port? I.wasnt aware of that. I know the 2008 Taito X hardware port which I mention but didn't show.
@Reaperman4711
@Reaperman4711 5 жыл бұрын
​@@RetroCore They sell it as 'kof '98 ultimate match HERO'--as if it's an improvement over the type x one, but I'm guessing the PGM2 is way down on power by comparison. You've probably looked it up by now, but it's here: system16.com/hardware.php?id=978&page=1#19201
@zobu312
@zobu312 5 жыл бұрын
I love KoF series and while I can admit 98 is better than the titles it came before, I play 97 whenever I sit down to play some KoF. I can't help myself. Great video as always
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I personally think KOF 97 and 98 were the pinnacle of the series. The early 2000 games were terrible I thought.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
97 is really good, my favorite game of the series outside the Dream Match titles.
@zobu312
@zobu312 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore yes. around the time when the whole brand was in shaky grounds and trying to stay alive, their games were not as good.
@zobu312
@zobu312 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bloodreign1 makes me happy to see people like 97.
@otakuuniteda.s.2882
@otakuuniteda.s.2882 5 жыл бұрын
I own all the KOF Japanese imports for my ps2.. My favorite by far is KOF 99 and 2002 ultimate collections. 98 is good to. You should do a comparison of King of Fighters 94. The PS2 version has a really cool intro.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Sometime in the future 94 will be covered along with 97 which I thought I'd done but it seems not.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought that version of 94 recently, known as KoF 94 Rebout. You can play with the old backgrounds, old music, but with the cleaned up sprites, and it looks really good. Not too fond of the newer backgrounds due to all the unnecessary background cameos though. I too have all the Japanese 2D KoF games for the PS2, the only US version I have is KoF XI. Orochi Hen, Nests Hen, 98 UM, 02 UM, Neowave, 02 and 03 separately (they were not released together there) are all Japanese releases, and took me a few years to get them all at decent prices.
@davidvfx
@davidvfx 5 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast my favorite version (^^)
@STLetsgetitonnow
@STLetsgetitonnow 5 жыл бұрын
ps2 all day!
@Tempora158
@Tempora158 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the Dreamcast version also has the music restart after every round (like the NeoGeo CD version) and it doesn't cycle through the different times of the day after every round (all versions of each stage exist in the Dreamcast IIRC, it's just that the time of day is fixed to whatever is chosen for Round 1 for all the rounds in a match).
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
This is true although I didn't forget to mention them. I had actually recorded that as part of the voiceover but cut it out due to time.
@zinesis
@zinesis 5 жыл бұрын
Nice my very first king of fighters game but I got it on ps1 the good thing about it though is that you can set a one button special for faster gameplay. Ps1 controllers have 4 trigger buttons which make it alot easier to do special combo btw theres an Anniversary Edition hack for mame which added the chars from the ultimate match and my fave to play on the go with my tablet.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the anniversary hack. Thanks for the info.
@osamaroum
@osamaroum 5 жыл бұрын
good choice Rerto Core , you have choosed one of the best KOF and fighting game ever made . anyway the worst version of the game is the psx1 port because of the characters frames messing , and it used the mono sound .
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
If memory serves me right, the Neo Geo arcade version was also mono, so it matched that aspect.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I think it's in stereo. I own the original Neo Geo hardware so I'll give it a try. It's possible that the Neo Geo you played it on was only capable of mono sound. Some of the Arcade boards didn't offer stereo.
@osamaroum
@osamaroum 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bloodreign1 still the sound horrible on psx1 version .
@MahmoudEhab2023
@MahmoudEhab2023 5 жыл бұрын
thank you mark it was really a HUUUUGE and great video now wanna know my favourite version of all time it is the one and only THE NEO GEO CD and second it is the dreamcast and third it is the one and lovely playstation 2 port yup this was my top 3 anticipating versions for this game now can you make next week to be real bout fatal fury special please?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked the video. For me the best version would be the AES with the Neo Geo music closely followed by the Dreamcast port. Next week will be a different game I'm afarid. I've already started making the video.
@StarForceBelmont321
@StarForceBelmont321 3 жыл бұрын
Retro Core if you ever do future KOF games you might want to set flash to off. Red and White Strobing lights trigger seizures worse than any other colors. Just a tip for the future
@vasili1207
@vasili1207 5 жыл бұрын
I always preferred 97 myself but.... it's a kof game so all good
@korgied
@korgied 5 жыл бұрын
I think I like AES the most. Arcade perfect but with some options you could change? Yes please. Are your captured videos in RGB limited (16-235) range while emulation is at RGB full (0-255) range (which is the appropriate choice for KZfaq / computers / smartphones)? The PS2 FreeMCBoot thing someone else mentioned is just a temporary "soft-hack" that involves putting a hacked memory card into your PS2. It doesn't change anything permanently - doesn't involve any hardware mods, or changing any software on the system, or even opening the system up. You just have to use either certain exploits in certain games to then run some software or have someone who already has a hacked PS2 create a hacked memory card for your PS2. Doesn't work in the SCPH-90xxx series though. It's not difficult, risky or expensive to do (you can buy pre-modded memory cards under $10 I believe) and it's no more illegal than using an emulator for a game you don't own. I mean the emulator wasn't that bad for this video but just wanted to try and clear up misunderstanding around FMCB. I do think FMCB would be a little better a solution.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'll look in to the PS2 FreeMCBoot exploit. It sure would be preferable to using emulation. Regarding the RGB, I'm using full RGB however since I have it running through the Framemeister the settings are a little different so that it displays well on my screen. This sometimes results in a slightly off image for the video capture card though.
@vasileios6301
@vasileios6301 5 жыл бұрын
Since you included the Ps2 UM version,you should have included also the IGS KOF98 UM which plays perfect on Mame. Fantastic PS1 port that growed up with it and a big miss from Saturn (because 98 is the best Kof for most people).
@retrovideogamejunkie
@retrovideogamejunkie 5 жыл бұрын
0:34 walk this way "homage"? XD
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly. I also noticed they say the F word on that intro music. It's at the begining if you listen closely.
@LienzoPerdido
@LienzoPerdido 5 жыл бұрын
Maaaaark!! Where is the Switch's ACA NEO GEO ver. 😫? That's practically the "ultimate" Arcade Perfect port. Anyways, fantastic content as always. Thanks for your quality!!!!!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry dude, I'm never going to include the ACA releases on any platform because they're nothing more than Arcade roms being emulated on which ever platform they appear on.
@gregoriocruz4530
@gregoriocruz4530 5 жыл бұрын
Was KOF 98 on the Dream cast called 98 in Japan, or was it Dream Match 99 like in the US?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
It was also called Dream Match 1999 in Japan.
@edwardboyz1000
@edwardboyz1000 5 жыл бұрын
i Knew it The XBOX360 (XBLA) Version Port of KOF98UM in Game Mode Selection to Play Neo Geo Mode!
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the NEO GEO CD port... and the Dreamcast port of course (if you can call it a port of the arcade of course). My Suggestion for the next 'Battle of the Ports' is Trojan by CAPCOM.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, you are a mind reader. Trojan is scheduled for the show after the next. This week will be Sonic Wings Special.
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore HELLYEAH :D Aaaaah Sonic Wings Special I've played hell of a lot in the arcades and on the PlayStation. Long live VIDEO SYSTEM.
@leandrorocha7976
@leandrorocha7976 4 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast Wins!
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 3 жыл бұрын
Not in the least bit, 98 UM destroys that port due to having much more content to it.
@Code7Unltd
@Code7Unltd 5 жыл бұрын
11:10 >My PS2 can't play unofficial disks How are you using a Playstation 2 in the modern day without Free McBoot? It's the easiest way to load up ISOs from either hard disk or LAN with OpenPS2Loader (I use LAN myself), or from a DVD with ESR. Not to mention that it's getting harder to find classic games these days without resorting to piracy (and before you bring up "the developers" argument, these are old, pirating games on old hardware only keeps money from scalpers), especially combined with how retro collectors tend to act (which is to say that the "Neo-Geo collector" mentality has extended to retro gaming in general), you never know what game might become rare next because of destruction of copies to make a collector retain his/her supposed value. Remember the classic Xbox devkit made into a PC by that one redditor, or the Starcraft Gold source code.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I don't play pirate games for my own entertainment which is why my PS2 isn't chipped or modded in any way. The only time I play a PS2 pirate game is if I don't own the original for a BOTP show. The Dreamcast game I do own officially but its one of the few Japanese games that isn't VGA compatable and because I don't have a RGB cable for my Dreamcast I can't capture the footage from it. Kind of annoying that I had to use emulation for the Dreamcast version..
@Speedkingfox0007
@Speedkingfox0007 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I'll have to post you one of my spare rgb leads. I thought there was a way to boot a non vga game into vga mode. I have a disc that does it
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I do. I have a Neo Geo MVS set up. It's how the Arcade and AES footage was captured (I used a Neo SD cart). Still, MVS games can still be expensive. I only hold a few myself.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the offer, Speedkingfox0007. Normally there is but for some reason Airforce Delta and KOF 99 Dream Match will not boot in to VGA. Or at least not when using a VGA to HDMI box such as the Akura or Gekko. They should work but sadly no signal is found.
@afropowa1598
@afropowa1598 5 жыл бұрын
That is so odd, that SNK updated this game 10 year later but than again they did the samething with KOF 94. Is the Dreamcast's anime intro available in the PS2 version?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afarid the anime intro is only on the Dreamcast game.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
I think it is unlockable in the Gallery mode, but can't be viewed outside of it.
@BlockABoots
@BlockABoots 5 жыл бұрын
DAMN no Saturn version!!. Why was '98 remade again in 2008? is it regarded to be the best KOF game or something??
@theraptorus
@theraptorus 5 жыл бұрын
BlockABoots Yes. Many regard KOF ‘98 to be the best in the series. A few characters that died in KOF ‘95 thru KOF ‘97 were bought back to life in KOF ‘98 so it’s considered a “Dream Match” title.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Excelent post.
@DragonSlayerKyo
@DragonSlayerKyo 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the character friendliness. on the order select screen, I believe you press start and you'll get icons showing how friendly they are towards each other( red faces being mean- meaning you get no extra stock carried over, to a happy face meaning they'll give you an extra stock). I It's a shame it's a step down from the PS port of 97. I found that 97 had a good amount of frames and good sound- but the downside, like all of them was the really long loading. 98' on DC was certainly the best way to play for a good while until 98UM. It does work under RGB if I recall correctly.
@vasileios6301
@vasileios6301 5 жыл бұрын
Kof 98 on Ps1 is great port and not a step down to 97,equally were well ported. Only problem is the loading times as usual.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, so that's what those smiling faces represent. I knew about them on the Dreamcast version but didn't know about them on other ports.
@DragonSlayerKyo
@DragonSlayerKyo 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore yeah, It's a nice little way to see how well your team works together.
@kof98se
@kof98se 5 жыл бұрын
My Dreamcast Kof ‘98 game was packaged as KoF ‘99, complete with all the packaging and disk art. The shop owner where I’d bought it said that the fact that it was ‘98 on the game disk was down to a disk printing error. I’ve no idea if this is true or not though.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, it's not true. The Dreamcast game was released in 1999 so they renamed it to The King of Fighters 1999 Dream Match.
@kof98se
@kof98se 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Core I think that’s right, but I remembered the box and disk having the character K’ on them, and screenshots in the packaging of what looks like the Neo Geo KoF 99. I found the box art my game has with some googling. It’s all packaged and presented as ‘99 Evolution, a different game from the ‘98 Dream Match that is written to the disk.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
There are two KOF '99 games on the Dreamcast. I'm not sure about the US names but in Japan KOF '98 was released as KOF '99 Dream Match (this has the 3D backgrounds) then the real KOF '99 was released under the title of KOF '99 Evolution.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 5 жыл бұрын
Ah my number fighting game of all time. Too bad you forgot 98 Final Edition, which as the name suggest is the last version of KOF98 made, only for Arcades and PC/Steam. Still a great video as always.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I do know about that but left it out to avoid confusion. I also didn't show the Arcade version of Ultimate Battle although I did talk about that one.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Core Oh ok, np I guess KOF 97, 98 and 2k2 have quite a few different versions/updates, that could get confusing for some people.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I wasn't even aware there was an updated version of KOF '97 until a few months ago.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore Yeah global edition I think its called and then theirs the web versions of the games I think only released in China/South Korea. I think its because the games 97,98 and 2k2 are still extremely popular long after there initial release dates way back in the 90's, it's very rare any type of game would have so many updates across the years, but that just shows how good those games are I guess.
@gamingmadster
@gamingmadster 5 жыл бұрын
Well guess what? I have the Ripoff of the PSP that just plays NES games and I somehow got it into a music maker once. You know. Anyway I got new batteries put in because of the screen dimming for no reason with the Energizer batteries and have now been experimenting with the thing again, and have got it to look like a jumbled mess with random sprites. Which by the way just now I got it mostly white screened with weirdly a grassy ground underneath the boxes to choose if you want to the language to be Chinese or English. I'll get back to playing some Donkey Kong after watching the video of yours.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the reliability of Chinese junk.
@gamingmadster
@gamingmadster 5 жыл бұрын
Meh, plays a good game of Super Mario Bros although the music is heck of fast.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 5 жыл бұрын
I have UM on Steam, and the online is pretty good! Also, for the 240p-only Dreamcast games (and games that support 240p natively along 480p like SF3: W-Impact), a proper SCART cable or even a VGA box from BeharBros would work great. The latter, especially since it has a switch to go to 240p/480i out for games like this. So through that, you could output to your Framemeister or OSSC to the capture card.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
You see, I thought so too. I'm using the Gekko from BeharBros but it refused to allow KOF Dream Match 99 to boot :(
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 5 жыл бұрын
Retro Core I read the product page, and see why: it only supports 480p modes. Damn shame, too. I know The Last Blade 2 will be another problematic game for that box. The ones I had that need the 15KHz mode were this, KoF99/KoF Evolution, Last Blade 2, Plasma Sword/Star Gladiator 2 - The Nightmare of Bilstein, Hydro Thunder, and Bakuretsu Muteki: Bangai-Ōh (what a title!). I know there is a list online of some games like Hydro Thunder that can be tricked with a regular VGA box or one like the Kuro or Toro to run at 480p. Just the other ones mentioned simply will not work. Guess an interim solution for now is to order a decent-quality SCART cable and run it to the Framemeister.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I do have a RGB cable for my Deamcast but the pins are finicky at the DC side of it. I'll see if I can get that fixed since I need a JP21 spec cable and those are not cheap for the Dreamcast.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I do have a RGB cable for my Deamcast but the pins are finicky at the DC side of it. I'll see if I can get that fixed since I need a JP21 spec cable and those are not cheap for the Dreamcast.
@VahnRibeiro
@VahnRibeiro 3 жыл бұрын
KOF98UM epic👍
@OkamiAuraHenshin
@OkamiAuraHenshin 5 жыл бұрын
What about the 360 version of KoF 98 UM?
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
Same as the PS2 version minus the 3D backgrounds option, no arranged OST option, and no physical copy option. Unless Yakumo has a 360 with the game downloaded on it (which he could possibly have, or not), then there's no way to put it in the video.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I don't have that for my 360 😕
@SiincereARC
@SiincereARC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party but no KOF 97? Although I love hearing great things about Saturn Ports, I prefer getting my port comparisons from you.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 2 жыл бұрын
Someday I'll cover KOF 97.
@SiincereARC
@SiincereARC 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I forgot to mention Garou Mark of the Wolves but if you do, I can't wait.
@metalcoola
@metalcoola 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know PS2 KOF Collection is poor, i was planning to get it one day :) Shame PS One once again got bad port.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
The Japanese KOF collection is different from the Western version as it was developed by a different company. The down side is that it only contains KOF '95,' 96 and '97.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
The PS1 port isn't that bad, it's quite playable if you ask me. I didn't pay a lot for it either on my "get all SNK made fighters for the consoles I own" exploits.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
The PS port is playable as mentioned on the video however the loading and really poor audio kind of kills the experience.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 5 жыл бұрын
The upside of that Japanese Orochi Hen collection is, the quality of the games on it are fantastic, likely the best versions to own outside of Neo Geo hardware. Of course that collection is why I had to get 94 Rebout for my 94 fix on the PS2, and already had 98/98 UM before I got ahold of the compilation. But if one is to get the Orochi Saga US compilation, best one to get is the Wii version, which has none of the sound issues, or slowdowns/loadings of the PS2 version. But they also removed all the flashing screens, and the Pao Pao Cafe wall intro from the Mexico stage in 94 on the Wii version.
@Sr.D
@Sr.D 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's with ultra pixelated retro games for big KZfaqrs, the games wasn't looking like that in our old CRT TVs, that's why there are filters in emulators to simulate the look, designers made the games taking in account how the CRT TVs resolution will smooth those sprites...
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why I always use scanlines. But using scanlines on a KZfaq video really messes up the quality of the encoding.
@Sr.D
@Sr.D 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I find h2q filters on most emulators very true to the look of an old CRT TV without the need of scanlines, but just my opinion, you've got an excellent channel.
@cireza_
@cireza_ 5 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast version is my favorite, however they did improve quite a lot of things in KOF 99 on Dreamcast (my favorite KOF by the way). When playing on real hardware, KOF 98 has two things I dislike : - the resolution of the 3D backgrounds is too low, they don't look so good on CRT - the music resets after each round Both of these points are fixed in KOF 99. On Neo Geo CD, there were too many tracks in KOF 98 for SNK to include each time both the one starting at the beginning, and the arranged version starting in the middle. KOF99 fixes this. However the loading times are quite long, even on CDZ.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I think the low resolution backgrounds look great on a CRT. They are low so that they don't clash with the 2D sprites. Sadly there is a mesh over the 3D graphics.
@theawsomenesdestroyer
@theawsomenesdestroyer 4 жыл бұрын
@Retro core i own 98 um on ps2 the usa port is a thing
@ultemad15red
@ultemad15red 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the ps4 version?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Never played it.
@mscottjohnson3424
@mscottjohnson3424 3 жыл бұрын
Really weird SNK Dreamcast games don't support VGA. I got a Dreamcast S-Video cable just for playing SNK games, but it's the only example I can think of where I have to swap cables just to play certain games.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese versions do. Sometimes they removed the VGA option from the western releases for some reason.
@mscottjohnson3424
@mscottjohnson3424 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore My Dreamcast is Japanese and so is my copy of KOF '99 Dream Match. No VGA out.
@mscottjohnson3424
@mscottjohnson3424 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I just checked some Dreamcast and KOF forums. It seems '99 Dream Match is one of those Dreamcast games that can't even be tricked into VGA mode. There's talk of a patched version you can burn, but I can't find it anywhere. Again, I have real Japanese hardware and software and it won't play through VGA. I ended up buying an S-Video cable just for that game.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
That must be the only one. The others all have VGA out. Such a shame as with it being a remake it would benefit from VGA out the most 😢
@thedonkey3950
@thedonkey3950 5 жыл бұрын
i prefer KOF 97 and KOF 2002 but this one is very good too
@SoukaDeezNutz
@SoukaDeezNutz 5 жыл бұрын
Recently King of Fighters 97 Global match was released. It had me kinda confused why they didn't use 98. What makes Kof 97 > 98? I hear the Chinese really love 97, but I never get a clear answer on why.
@ragingtyga
@ragingtyga 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoukaDeezNutz Good Question, the best reason I can come up with, is it's Story, which 97 is the final conclusion of the Orochi Saga, still the most celebrated KOF Saga, As opposed to 98, which is once of the dream match games, and doesn't have a story. Gameplay wise, there is no different from 97-98. 98 just added characters that were ether dead or removed since 98 (Saishu, Rugal..etc.). I think Ultimate Match 98, is the better way to go though
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat the Dreamcast version, let's be real here.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 3 жыл бұрын
98UM absolutely mops the floor with the DC version. You can choose original or remixed music (only on the PS2 version though, the digital releases don't have that option), the roster is bigger, with more EX versions of characters to use, 3 different bosses to fight, Shingo isn't the only "midboss" of the game (UM has Shingo, Kasumi, Eiji, Orochi Leona, Orochi Iori, and regular Rugal you can face), a survival mode where you face all the games fighters, two of the 3 bosses are unlockable, Omega Rugal is already unlocked, but you can unlock regular Rugal. Not to mention any screen visual filters can be turned off. Plus the music doesn't restart every round, and zero load times between rounds and fights. The only advantage the DC version has is the cleaner audio for the voice samples, likely because they were recorded from the master tapes, and not the PCB.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bloodreign1 Considering UM came out almost a decade after the DC version, it's not surprising. I'm obviously talking about among the contemporary ports. UM is pretty fucking awesome, though.
@Speedkingfox0007
@Speedkingfox0007 5 жыл бұрын
Is the 360 version emulation then?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'm not sure. I would have featured it if it was available on physical media but sadly its download only. I don't think it can be bought anymore.
@Speedkingfox0007
@Speedkingfox0007 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore i have it. Plays great but not an expert like yourself when comparing it with original versions
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