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Now look at the state of the U.K. Many of that generation have said that if they knew how the U.K. would turn out they’d have never set foot on the beaches in Normandy.

@@schuletrip My Dad fought in North Africa and my Uncle Tom a commando who landed on D Day plus 2. I know both would do it again. Tomorrow as would the brave British soldiers who took part. This country is the finest in the world and ‘The state of it’ as you refer is an opinion I don’t share.

For ever grateful thanks gramp and to every one else who fort for us. And thanks for making it home gramp from my dad his brother his children my sister's my son granddaughter and 70 outer family members all hear because of you Rip

where r in ur mind hundreds of thousands of foreign troops who fought with British ..

They are English Exceptionalists so are kind of blinkered to the input of non UK combatants.

@@highcountrydelatite outside of Australia it isn't well known.

@@highcountrydelatite I know of Z force, I watched the miniseries with that bloke from Neighbours in it. All soldiers that fight and die for their country are legends. I also know the contribution Australia had during World War Two, even after they pulled out of Europe to defend their own country (rightly so)

They are the Greatest Generation. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

You don't get heroes like that no more buddy

The Commando Order was due to the raid on Sark later in the year . German prisoners bolted and had to be killed to keep them quiet . Anders Lassen used his knife . The Germans thought it murder hence the Order to kill all commandos

Jaywick was an amazing raid. Well planned and I believe that these men trained in Kurringai chase. What was the casualty rate? I am of the understanding they all made it out safely. St. Nazaire another remarkable raid. The effectiveness is only really borne out in enemy morale, a difficult thing to measure.

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​@@adambane1719To anyone.

It was just 10 soldiers.... they took out multiple ships ! They strangled the areas supply’s and most like let other allied soldiers kill more of the enemy... the enemy soldiers time that they took up trying to repair their logistics in turn giving them less resources and prep time to other campaigns.... 10 lives is definitely worth the cost in a war of global logistics and tactics

Damaging enemy morale, diversion of resources, creating uncertainty, creating fear of attack from any direction, boosting morale of the French, Ally’s, creating myths and legends, pushing the boundaries of military capability, seizing the initiative, all for less than a price of a bomber crew! Yeh, what could possibly be with it? Ask any one of the 8 that didn’t return would they do it again if the could, of course they would

He also planned another raid in which commands were sent to a French port,on a ship which was in a bad state, to destroy dry dock . A lot of commandoes lost their lives even though the mission was accomplished. Mountbatten seemed to love to come up with impossible missions that led to huge number of people losing their lives.

Mountbatten got what he deserved eventually.

Mountbatten was promoted to India with strict instructions from Churchill that the arsehole had absolutely no authority over strategic or tactical planning 👀

@@masaukochitsamba7808 You maybe thinking of St. Nazaire. The two guys who went ashore and made it out were remarkably cautious. But the odds were enormous hiding in plain sight really. Gutsy stuff, I have the book at home. A good read but title and author escapes me.

@@grantadam7674 Yeah, the raid on St Nazaire. I understand Mountbatten thought of that one too. He seemed to like sending commandos to their deaths.

Yes. Also, this was a proof of concept. Used in the Pacific theater. HMS Kraken.

Yes & no when you have twice something going wrong you have more of a possibility it will keep going wrong, and this has nothing to do with Murphy's law have to do with statistics... And I think the price of this operation was way too high and it had more to do with the fact that you could have accomplished this same operation without using a canoe, there are other means they could have used they could have got given them a means once they were already in country being a fisherman along the river as one example Ben to ask the locals the local underground... But they didn't have those resources they went in basically blind. Seemed that way to anybody who's listening to this commentary but yes it was blind because they didn't even know what they would find along the areas where they stopped, and what this tells me is they did not have enough valuable information that reconnaissance on the ground have given them if they had gone in prepared but they didn't go in prepared. Sometimes I think those in command I'm more interested in getting the flag there in in getting whatever it is they're trying to accomplish rather than thinking of the proper way to accomplish think about how many men they lose how many lives will be destroyed or altered or changed not for the but for the worst... Please forgive me if not everything makes sense I can't fix many things on here I am recap person whose hands do not work properly the best of times fix anything and I'm using voice-to-text to do most of this and I can occasionally put in a symbol such as an and but I can't actually type the word. I think this mission was more show a proof-of-concept to try out a idea didn't think the thing through, I suppose that's the difference between men in command they don't think they're all action they don't think things properly out they should have gone with information they could have gotten it it wouldn't have been hard to get some local reconnaissance to tell them what's going on they could have buzzed with a small plane or a even better a glider and taking pictures and therefore had the information, there's more ways to have done this successfully without losing so many people... But they didn't think about that did they they never think about what could go wrong and what they should do if something were to go wrong, and that's the problem with this whole thing. It didn't really accomplish anyting exercise that's all it was for morale but there are better ways if you want to build morale then sacrificing a half a dozen men for little to nothing nothing at all.

Worthy of our remembrance yes, but the casualty rate was way too high when you think about it and human people are also resource in war they are the most important material that you have the most important resource you have without which you cannot fight a war, all about getting morale boost, about showing the enemy that you can get them anywhere and nowhere is safe, except I don't think it did that in the long run. That's because they went in unprepared they went in blind, what today we would have called Half-assed, I know I sound harsh but I think of the resources those men represented and how they were wasted and it angers me, angers me because some of those men were so young become so much more, but those in charge those in command care enough about this project and about them to look into it and actually do their homework. Yes it was Irv to be remembered, for what not to do as much as for the fact that these men were willing to go in and sacrifice their lives even if it meant it was for nothing. Somebody here said it was a proof-of-concept that would later on be used in the Pacific... But I don't think it was used in same half-assed way it was used here I think when it was used it was used with a great deal of thought and planning and scouting the area that you're going to do this kind of operation in so you know where you're going know what's there know the lay of the land as it were, so they wouldn't be so many casualties and 80% loss is not a positive outcome. I suppose I shouldn't be angry for thembecause back then that's just the way it was the higher-ups didn't give a damn about people that were beneath them, and so going to do something like this just to make a point even if there is not enough planning and so many things can go wrong without proper planning and yet they didn't care... And that's what I come away with.

When you consider in WW1 50,000 deaths a day was considered normal, so 10 deaths relatively is very little.

Whether elite operations were the best use of the best men, highly trained and highly motivated, removed from the general leaders cadre is a question that is still debated. Nonetheless: -10 men- equivalent to one bomber crew downed, or a section of infantrymen or ship's crew lost in a single shellburst, in return for five ships sunk, with the impact on security from the threat of further attacks: the cost was cheap in terms of wartime calculations. St Nazaire (Operation Chariot) and the 'Dambusters' raid (Operation Chastise) were much more costly and St Nazaire certainly bore the mark of hasty planning and fatal compromise.

Nelson has left the chat, and the Zulus thought the soldiers at Rorke's drift were jolly brave, and awfully good! (actual words). My heart shudders when I think of how many good men were machine-gunned and killed at Ypres, Verdun, Somme, etc etc...very brave, our best! they didnt even stand a chance to be heros...good grief, war is not nice. How different our world would be without those two world wars, but yes, you're right, the dying throes of the British Empire saw the best generation fight for us, for our futures, giving us all they had, with strict rationing (ie no fkn food!) and the blitz at home, and we had to say thanks to the Yanks, (and pay them) for helping with the finishing touches, Now that Germany is the largest economy and mostly 'in charge' of the EU with a single currency...one wonders if the sacrifice has been respected in any other sense than dam-buster movies and jingoism. Look at us now, compared to Germany, uber alles, and you would think that we lost WW2.

@@mistag3860 you absolutely right. Thousands of years of history , countless wars , shared toil and struggle has brought us as a country to this point. And when you look around today it's like we don't even deserve it. The things we're putting up with , watching our culture bein slowly eroded ,our proud, hard won history now rewritten. Makes me sick. 👊💛👍

Yep. 👍 Starring José Ferrer and Trevor Howard in it. I like the soundtrack of that movie.

It's based on facts and it is the start of the SBS who were formed after this, and until recent years the SBS were chosen from elite Marines,

@@tonyfraser1749 Sure it`s based on facts. I know the story. In 2016 when I visited Portsmouth Harbour and one of its naval historic museums with a friend of mine, there was a special exhebition about that raid and I could see one example of these small and fragile kayaks and all the equipment they used in that raid. When I saw that kayak pinned on the wall, spontaneously it popped out of me: Hey look, Cockleshell Heroes“. The guard who stood nearby had no clue what we were talking about. 😳😆My friend and I had to explain the whole story of that raid to her. 😄 We also advised her to see the movie. 🤓She thought we were history teachers. 😄We are not. We are just interested in all kind of history besides of military history. 😉

@@mikr2d2 I know it's based on fact, I'm ex Navy 24 years and my last six years in the navy was based in Pompey, I've worked with the marines, their good people!

@@tonyfraser1749 Well, so I am sure you have lots of memories from that time and many interesting stories to tell. 😉I hope not too many sailor`s yarn stories. 🤪😅

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Thank you for the kind words Stewart. We are glad you enjoyed it!

That proves the old saying a plan is only good until first contact is made. After that you change things on the move.

Good effort!

Well wishes to you from the south of Chicago; and great gratitude to your uncle and his gallant service.

Sounds like your uncle and my grandfather may have served together. I know my grandfather was a royal marine commando and landed at Normandy during D-Day landing. Like most men who served he never discussed his service much. It seems he told more to me than anyone else. And even then, it was just snippets.

He's a British hero mate, hope it runs in the family for what's to come. Respect for your uncle.

No , not only did it do damage to the German war effort . It meant they would have to use more troops to protect vital war infrastructure. That could have been used else where . When they were running short of manpower .

Amazing Rod - thankyou very much!

My dad was a Marine Mastsargent. A true Marine!. He supportive his whole life. I didn't deserve his support but he gave me his! Thank you daddy! Once a Marine always a Marine! Semper Fi my father!:

Thank you very much!

It is a movie. The Cockleshell Heroes.

It has! Look up "Cockleshell Heroes" directed by José Ferrer. it was made in 1955. If you want something more modern, too bad, this youtube vid is the best for that.

Thanks George... great to have you along for the journey. Yes the psycholgical benefits of the raid far surpass the material damage caused.

@@angloaust1575 If I remember the mission parameters correctly, they were operating in the occupied part of France, not Vichy France.

@@BattleGuideVT Yes, kind of like the aftermath of the 2nd Marine Raider Battalion attack on Makin Island in 1942.

Thanks for the kind comment Andrew.

Thank you

Brave men

Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it!