BattleTech Lore & History - Second Succession War: The Last WarShip (MechWarrior Lore)

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Sven van der Plank

Sven van der Plank

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#battletech #lore #mechwarrior BattleTech Lore & History is a series by Sven van der Plank that covers the history of the #innersphere and Periphery within the #battletech universe. Presented as a #documentary from the year 3025, the videos cover in detail major events such as the Age of War, founding of the #starleague, #reunificationwar, the Golden Age, #starleague Civil War and the four #successionwar.
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A very special thank you to Jason from the Gaming Ambience channel. His mixes have helped my productivity in uncountable ways over the years. Many a video has been scripted while listening to their work. They very kindly allowed me to use some of those tracks here. Please give them some love: / gamingambience
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Sourcebooks Referenced:
House Davion: Federated Suns (1623)
House Kurita: Draconis Combine (1620)
House Liao: Capellan Confederation (1624)
House Marik: Free Worlds League (1622)
House Steiner: Lyran Commonwealth (1621)
The Periphery (1629)
The Star League (1630)
ComStar (1655)
Handbook: House Davion (35024)
Handbook: House Kurita (35205)
Handbook: House Liao (35204)
Handbook: House Marik (35019)
Handbook: House Steiner (35001)
Handbook: Major Periphery (35203)
Era Report: 2750 (35222)
Historical: Reunification War (35231)
Historical: Liberation of Terra Vol.I (35232)
Historical: Liberation of Terra Vol.II (35233)
Historical: Operation Klondike (35230)
Historical: First Succession War (35235)
Historical: Second Succession War (35236)
Field Manual: SLDF (35251)
Field Report 2765: AFFS (35FR010)
Field Report 2765: CCAF (35FR008)
Field Report 2765: DCMS (35FR009)
Field Report 2765: FWLM (35FR011)
Field Report 2765: LCAF (35FR012)
Field Report 2765: Periphery (35FR013)
Jihad Hot Spots: Terra (35205)
Further references from www.sarna.net/ - Thank you to the Sarna.net discord for additional support: / discord
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Barış Türköz
Cliford Mervil
Felix Mittermeier
Igor Mashkov
Jeff Nissen
Jol Acen
Pixabay
Putra Kusuma
Waldemar
0:00 The Chrysanthamum Throne
2:29 Operation PRAYING MANTIS
6:10 Quiet Years
7:55 Circinus Offensive
11:51 Sixth Battle of Hesperus
14:36 Seventh Battle of Hesperus
16:55 Eighth Battle of Hesperus
20:03 The Last WarShip
22:18 Outro

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@Tzilandi
@Tzilandi 3 ай бұрын
The mention that the only Lyrans left who knew how to crew the LCS Invincible were all retired, makes me imagine the ship went on its last ride crewed exclusively by people in their 70s and up. Something about House Kurita losing to the cast of Space Cowboys just makes me smile.
@wise_guy4230
@wise_guy4230 2 ай бұрын
it reminds me of how they brought back sailors from WW2 and Korea, when they reactivated the Missouri class Battleships, nearly 50 years after their initial deployment.
@BainRacing134
@BainRacing134 3 ай бұрын
Comstar: Uhhh... Yes, LCS Invincible suffered a "Jump Drive malfunction". Never found them though...
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Obviously since it is neutral ComStar we can trust them at their word (of Blake).
@DrendarMorevo
@DrendarMorevo 3 ай бұрын
No, it's fine, they will be seen in Far Country 2.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I pray to Blake that such a thing never becomes reality.
@DrendarMorevo
@DrendarMorevo 3 ай бұрын
@SvenVanDerPlank I maintain that if you take Far Country as just being a fun "Sci Fi" story with Battletech flavoring it's just fine.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I've heard many people say as much over the years. Having finally read it this Christmas, I can say that I do not agree. The fact that it is ostensibly set in the BT universe does not bother me at all. I also think the author's use of language puts him above several others who have written for BT. Unfortunately, all that is irrelevant because he chose to write one of the strangest stories I have come across and populated it with some of the most bizarre individuals Imaginable. One day I'll make a video on it, and it'll just be 10 minutes of me reading quotes from Goldmember himself; Brian Seagraves.
@mkang8782
@mkang8782 3 ай бұрын
"Explosively disassembled" - well, you're not wrong. Very enjoyable video.
@nobodyimportant5417
@nobodyimportant5417 3 ай бұрын
Rapid, unplanned, energetic disassembly is what we used to call it in the corps of engineers.
@Echo1608.
@Echo1608. 3 ай бұрын
I was not expecting the last warships to have such an epic battle, I was expecting more and more to be abandoned or decommissioned. That was amazing!
@chadweirick
@chadweirick 3 ай бұрын
Right? What is more amazing is what happens to the Invincible.
@SweetLittleAki
@SweetLittleAki 3 ай бұрын
I was keeping a rough mental tally of how many Warships still survived as each episode went by. This will be a somber one indeed...
@ALV694
@ALV694 3 ай бұрын
Most inner spheres only have 2-3 warships left as most inner sphere shipyards got nuked. FWL has a functional shipyard but is too broke to build warships due to both balkanization and falcon jade taking a substantial portion of their remaining territory.
@arwing20
@arwing20 3 ай бұрын
Yup it ain't a Battletech video if the Kuritans don't commit at least one mass murder, even if its their own palace staff.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
It's traditions.
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 ай бұрын
as kuritans would say "it is za grindu"
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын
All according to kekaku.
@derekburge5294
@derekburge5294 3 ай бұрын
Gotta stay on-brand!
@chadweirick
@chadweirick 3 ай бұрын
lol at least they are consistent
@melikwalker296
@melikwalker296 3 ай бұрын
I love BattleTech but I hope one day Catalyst game Labs or whoever owns the BattleTech IP bring back the Aerospace version of BattleTech
@3capullosenapuros
@3capullosenapuros 3 ай бұрын
It has never gone away, you can simply buy the manual.
@redenginner
@redenginner 3 ай бұрын
Ngl given the Urbie LAM box is going to be followed up by other LAMs its only a matter of time until we get aerospace minis again.
@iller3
@iller3 3 ай бұрын
I wanna PLAY the Aerotech piloting role too in some future Mechwarrior game. ...would I die super fast to medium lasers from a Mech that was "watching the Skies?" ...Yes, but that's what's great about multiplayer games, most ppl never look UP
@ArawnNox
@ArawnNox 3 ай бұрын
I would love a rules-revised version of aerotech to make it more useable on the tabletop. The rules as is just make my head spin.
@thomasrose4523
@thomasrose4523 3 ай бұрын
One of the reasons why Saturday is great for me? New BattleTech lore videos! Seriously, always love learning new things about one of my favorite series. I just finished Big Red 40-Tech's Warhammer IIC video, loved hearing you voice Khan N'buta! I hope you're doing well today!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed both videos. Always happy to be invited to take part in other BT projects, even if I don't think I've got the voice to pull off these characters.
@blackspade1
@blackspade1 3 ай бұрын
Amazing as always. Warships in Battletech have always fascinated me so it's great to see the last action of these behemoths.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you. I really love hearing about the WarShips. Probably chose the wrong sci-fi franchise to get invested in if that's my area of interest.
@ssjjshawn
@ssjjshawn 3 ай бұрын
​@@SvenVanDerPlankWarships are interesting, sadly they just interfere too much with the True basis of the setting: Battlemechs After all You can't have stompy 4v4 mech combat if a Leopard drop ship is little more than a nat to even the smallest Warships and dies before they can even burn into the system.
@AtreidesT660
@AtreidesT660 2 ай бұрын
​@@SvenVanDerPlank Warships trigger Big Red. How dare you 😄
@NotThereJustGone
@NotThereJustGone 3 ай бұрын
And with the decommissioning of the last warship, the powers of the Inner Sphere realized the futility of war and commited themselves to complete disarmament. The end.
@brandonclark435
@brandonclark435 3 ай бұрын
*dismemberment
@NotThereJustGone
@NotThereJustGone 3 ай бұрын
​@@brandonclark435 I now have the image of a chainsaw-wielding Atlas stuck in my head. And for that, I thank you.
@AtreidesT660
@AtreidesT660 2 ай бұрын
And they all did a Gangam style dance to celebrate.
@NotThereJustGone
@NotThereJustGone 2 ай бұрын
@@AtreidesT660 Have you reading ComStar's top secret intelligence reports?!?!?!
@AAX11111
@AAX11111 3 ай бұрын
Sven that was amazing. Everything i hoped for and more.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Glad it lived up to your expectations.
@stephenrickman4300
@stephenrickman4300 3 ай бұрын
Ah, the last mission of LCS Invincible, my favorite triumph and tragedy of the 2nd succession war. Steiner- kurita must be stopped, no matter the cost, and it was high. Great video Sven, thank you.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
It's a great send-off to the era of WarShips. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@Rorgosh
@Rorgosh 3 ай бұрын
Steiners dont have to be stopped. They are the puncbags of BT universe. Actually never a long time capable leader, never realising their industrial advantage, etc. Everyone else can have succes, except lyrians…. And I wonder, how they managed to be still around, never actually overrun, or torn apart by mutiny, rebellion, and so on…. And puncbag status: even their meager succeses are just for to be overturned by fraction of time and effort to they get those achivments. I actually believe, the authors of BT universe hate them, thats why they are constant punching bag.
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын
@@Rorgosh They're kind of too big to die. As Professor Tex once put it, "they will keep throwing meat and metal at you until you are destroyed or they get bored."
@Cross_Malaki
@Cross_Malaki 3 ай бұрын
​@Archangelm127 Yeah but they aren't wrong in saying we're the punching bags of BattleTech and the writers hate us.
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын
@@Cross_Malaki I'd say yes and no, respectively. I mean, you have Solaris! And money. Oh so very much money. Why would the writers make you ever so rich if they hated you? They have you take so many punches because they know you'll barely feel it. Through your massive bags of money. ;)
@michaelman957
@michaelman957 Ай бұрын
The last ride of the space cowboys and the Last Resort is the stuff of legends.
@calumdeighton
@calumdeighton 3 ай бұрын
I'm inclined to believe it was a ComStar Agent that caused the LCS-Invincible to be lost. Otherwise, I feel the crew of the ship wouldn't have dared make the trip home if their K-Drive had been damaged during the battle. It be very interesting to see Warships make a return. Everything I've been learning about them makes me think/believe, BattleTech has been missing out a fair bit on them. Although considering how devastating they indeed are. I'm at once optimistic & sceptical at their inclusion back into the setting. Amazing work Sven. This series & others has been so illuminating. Be very interesting to see when you get to the Clans. Awesome work. Well done.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 Ай бұрын
Yeah, sure, it’s “lost” ;) ;) ;) ;)
@lexington476
@lexington476 3 ай бұрын
Great video. We got to see the Invincible! For the chancellor, I mean the archon; for the archon!
@solidshot7849
@solidshot7849 2 ай бұрын
Ah the curse of the scholar: 5 different sources all saying completely different things about the same event, with each of them still having a small bit of the actual truth all nestled deep inside
@ebla83
@ebla83 3 ай бұрын
Excellent work Sven! To the LCS Invincible I raise a glass.
@Wrangler-fp4ei
@Wrangler-fp4ei 2 ай бұрын
What awesome entry in your series. It was wonderfully detailed. Thank you working so hard on it. Side note, the FSS Pleiades , the Davion Carrier. Didn't break in half, it KF Drive broke/broke it's back after it arrived in system. The ship was made into museum in system is jumped too, Novaya Zemlya .
@Plaprad
@Plaprad 3 ай бұрын
Agree with you on the warships. Equipment requires a lot of time and effort to maintain. Drop that for a short time and you'll have to make it up with interest to get them working. We had aircraft that would be grounded for a few months for repair and when we finally got everything needed to get them back up, we would always spend at least double the time fixing all the things from just sitting. That's why I always laugh when people talk about bringing the Iowas back into service. It would be cheaper and quicker to just clean sheet a new BB than to get one of those girls back into fighting shape.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. It's nothing more than a fantasy putting these vessels back into service. When WarShips later become a reality for the Great Houses again, apart from ripping a few salvageable parts off the hulks, they're very quickly abandoned once more.
@gregdomenico1891
@gregdomenico1891 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the only one who stood a chance with the older hulls was Comstar/WOB, and only because of the Titan Yards. They still had the Blueprints for most of the SL era ships. Even then, I don't even want to think about how much they spent to refurbish a McKenna.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 3 ай бұрын
I'm inclined to think they might have been able to slowly learn back part of what was lost from some of the more intact remaining ships and wrecks. But they would have needed to be free from interruptions and especially free from Comstar.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 Ай бұрын
For further current evidence, reference 80% of Russian armor in Ukraine
@chadweirick
@chadweirick 3 ай бұрын
Sven, this video started to answer a few of my biggest questions: 1) There are various references to the derelict warships, but little about why they were not restored and 2) Why were there not sneak attacks from SS to SS using the Periphery? For 1 - I'd love to see more details. Everything else got a tech downgrade and there were warships before mechs plus every state was making them. Is it possible that ROM was really that thorough? As for 2) Deep-reaching raids through the periphery to bypass entrenched worlds or units disguised as merchants would be fascinating. Keep up the amazing work!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
The reason why they didn't continue to build WarShips is because losing the ability to manufacture just one or two critical components, such as the compact KF drives, means that they can no longer complete them, even if all of the other components are still readily available. As for flanking attacks through the periphery, there really isn't much of a need. You're going through mostly uncolonised systems, which brings an extra element of risk if you break down, but your route is longer, increasing the time to get there and chances for something to go wrong. You can just as easily/riskily navigate through abandoned systems within the Inner Sphere. By this point in the war, there are plenty of dead worlds you know the coordinates of but won't get spotted at passing through. Furthermore, you're only likely to strike at other planets on the edge of the periphery, which generally have lower industrial capability or military significance.
@chadweirick
@chadweirick 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank Thanks for the answer! I get the point about the drives, but even rehabbing a ship for in-system defense would seem to be a good idea. Is that somehow beyond possibility or was it more of a mechs or ships approach paired with the old axiom of nobody ever won a war on the defense?
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
The WarShips probably were used as orbital defence stations for a time as you say, but eventually the cost of maintaining the life support and structural integrity after centuries of corrosion and decay makes it not worth it, especially when there hasn't been a credible threat to the interior worlds where they've been parked for so many years.
@EndlessInfinity1
@EndlessInfinity1 3 ай бұрын
I liked hearing about the mercenary drama. I'm really interested in learning about more
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
The Eridani Light Horse? Most of that detail came from the ELH anthology No Greater Honour if you want to get the full story. More Merc drama later in this series too. The penultimate episode I'm working on has one of the largest in existence mutiny against their employer, and it won't be the last time that happens to them.
@theprinceovercameall
@theprinceovercameall Ай бұрын
As a warship wonk, I think this episode is both awesome and kinda sad.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank Ай бұрын
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened."
@topsmug3409
@topsmug3409 2 ай бұрын
I do love how the mantis plot has been bloated enough that you could essentially have kuritas entire house staff in on it to some degree.
@Bluehairedgirl89
@Bluehairedgirl89 3 ай бұрын
Finally got a chance to sit down and watch this, it was so worth it! I loved this episode so much! Seriously thank you for all the time and effort you put into this video. House Kurita continues to be just the worst. Honestly when I first learned about Battletech I took a dislike to House Kurita and it kinda just stuck even as my views of favorite houses shifted, but the more I learn of the whole history of the Inner Sphere the more I despise House Kurita. But I do also understand why they are so popular among other players. Anyway, this video was amazing but it also kind of hurt because it’s the end of Warships. I’ve always loved naval stuff and I hated that the warship version of Battletech and Aerotech just arnt played all that much anymore. I understand why but still I yearn for massive naval battles among the stars with warships and fighters followed up by massive invasions of mechs, tanks, and infantry. It’s part of the reason why I think the Age of War is probably one of my favorite times to set a game in.
@jasonfarley9025
@jasonfarley9025 3 ай бұрын
What a banger of an episode!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
@dustandpolos8196
@dustandpolos8196 3 ай бұрын
Love the way they keep enough ambiguity, like the Invincible's disappearance, to allow people to build their own non-canon stories and scenarios incorporating these legends while taking them out of the equation of the main narrative.
@spartanalex9006
@spartanalex9006 3 ай бұрын
Well… it becomes important later.
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 ай бұрын
Hesperus can't keep getting away with it! (it will)
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You cannot beat the mountain!
@fix0the0spade
@fix0the0spade 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Clan Space: Using McKenna Class hulls as cargo tugs because we've all got too many Warships. Just yank 2000tons of armour off them to fit more pallets inside, it's not like there's any pirates out here anyway.
@AtreidesT660
@AtreidesT660 2 ай бұрын
Watching this video late due to reasons but now I can binge on two more superb videos. Awesome work as always Sven.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, hope you enjoy them.
@SuperVeganShark
@SuperVeganShark 3 ай бұрын
Seems dumb that the IS powers never had civilian versions of the Potemkin in order to move large amounts of dropships in their safer areas of their realms.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
They had Star Lord and Monolith class JumpShips for moving large forces, but the bigger they make those things, the greater the loss if something goes wrong.
@SuperVeganShark
@SuperVeganShark 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank true enough, but I was thinking the Potemkin could carry 25 dropships. It would be used in core areas of their realms, where accidents and attacks would be much rarer. Would have appealed to the Lyrans and economies of scale thinking.
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 3 ай бұрын
@@SuperVeganShark Keep in mind that Warship jump drives are much more expensive and advanced so that more mass and volume can be allocated to weapons, armor, cargo, etc. Maybe had the Star League been in better shape for longer, they might have tried that. Though Clan Sea fox has refitted a lot of Potemkins for more pure cargo transport and even mobile mass habitation. But Sea Fox has a LOT of money to throw at problems and fund clan tech solutions. So it has been done, but only by one faction, and even then these aren't purpose built ships, but heavily modified warships made into homes and haulers.
@ebla83
@ebla83 3 ай бұрын
Seems pretty exciting!!!
@takumicrary4396
@takumicrary4396 3 ай бұрын
Awesome ep 💯💯💯
@aaronwinberry3490
@aaronwinberry3490 3 ай бұрын
Great stuff !
@Deadmeat313
@Deadmeat313 3 ай бұрын
Excellent stuff. :)
@Sierra026
@Sierra026 3 ай бұрын
Kurita Commander: Here we go, boys: Eighth time's the charm!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
"Doing precisely what we've done seven times before, is exactly the last thing they'll expect us to do this time."
@ericsouth3019
@ericsouth3019 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Had to watch it twice i enjoyed it so much lol. Keep up the good work 👏
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I'm really pleased you enjoyed it.
@randyslater199
@randyslater199 3 ай бұрын
AWESOME JUST AWESOME!!!!!
@captainteutonica5474
@captainteutonica5474 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, I really like these videos.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you like them.
@arcosraid
@arcosraid 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant just brilliant
@derekburge5294
@derekburge5294 3 ай бұрын
The Turpitz? Funny story about that! I heard that Comstar was resp-
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You heard nothing.
@HawkTheRed
@HawkTheRed 3 ай бұрын
HUZZAR! THE LAST WARSHIPS COMETH!
@darkalman
@darkalman 3 ай бұрын
With the loss of The Invicible the age of warships ended Meanwhile... in the Kerensky Cluster :|
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
They went into hibernation there as well. I haven't read the Operation KLONDIKE sourcebook but the BattleSpace sourcebook suggests that they were all mothballed and only a handful took part in the Exodus Civil War. Don't quote me on that one though because I know the Invading Clans had 100+ by 3050.
@Rellana1
@Rellana1 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank So when do they get the tech to produce WarShips again?
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
The Clans never lose the tech, if that's what you're asking. They're producing new WarShip designs throughout the 29th & 30th centuries. The Inner Sphere doesn't restart construction again until the 3050s.
@Rellana1
@Rellana1 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank Ok,thanks. I just wondered when the Inner Sphere resumed construction due to the damage to their shipyards in the succession wars.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Davion and Kurita were already drawing up blueprints after the War of 3039, but the costs were going to be so extreme since they'd first have to build all the factories, neither went ahead with the plans until the Clan Invasion began. The first fully functional prototype was completed in late 3057.
@Ironclockwork
@Ironclockwork 3 ай бұрын
You could seriously make a full-on epic movie about the Invincible and the battle of Hesperus. Such feats are the stuff of legends.
@marvthedog1972
@marvthedog1972 Ай бұрын
Comstar had two Cameron class heavy cruisers orbiting between Mars and the Asteroid belt. They used one to service the other for parts. This Cruiser joined task force Serpent and fired the first shells in anger in more than 200 years when the fleet ran into a fleet of clan ships which included a couple of smaller warships. It handily destroyed and severely damaged other Clan ships and the survivors joined the new "clan Serpent" ..
@JuergenGDB
@JuergenGDB 3 ай бұрын
Awesome information and making it real of what the source books says.
@azou5th
@azou5th 3 ай бұрын
Thank you again for another amazing video and your continued devotion to the battletech community.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Happy to be of service. Never thought I'd be approaching the point where I have almost a full 24 hours of BattleTech Lore & History on the channel.
@azou5th
@azou5th 3 ай бұрын
@SvenVanDerPlank I still find it hard to believe anyone would take up a task like this, but here you are doing us this great service
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I don't know quite how I went from, "let's make a quick 10 minute video to help 40K refugees get acclimated," to "I want to cover the entire 1000+ year history of BattleTech in-depth." Talk about feature creep.
@azou5th
@azou5th 3 ай бұрын
@SvenVanDerPlank me either, but please keep it up.
@richardfendt1166
@richardfendt1166 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this video over an entire package of strawberry starbursts, life is good today
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
A man of high culture, I see.
@loreman2803
@loreman2803 3 ай бұрын
Amazing work as usual I'm suprised at the amount of DCS that were fielded
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
I wish they tracked the number of WarShips more closely in the 2ndSW sourcebook, because we don't really know anything about the numbers after 2821 until 2853 when it declares that only six Combine vessels remain, everything else is scrapped or decommissioned.
@loreman2803
@loreman2803 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank still 6 vessels of destroyer or smaller is pretty good after the destruction of 1st war
@harvestblades
@harvestblades 3 ай бұрын
Such a great series especially for us new to the lore. I started reading the novels last year when I first got into table top & am currently reading The Hunter's (3058) so it has been nice to gain and understanding of the SLDF, Succession Wars as I work chronologically through the novels.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad you're finding the series useful for learning the history. I haven't made it to Twilight of the Clans in my own reading yet. Just finished the two Refusal War books, but I'm hoping to make a start on the Twilight octology (if that's a word) by the end of the year.
@gregdomenico1891
@gregdomenico1891 3 ай бұрын
​@SvenVanDerPlank Jeez Sven, you still have like 20-30 novels to go before you hit the WOB era. You still have the break up of the FEDCOM, the Fights in the Chaos March, and the Dragoons Civil War before you even get to Twilight of the Clans. And whatever you do, DO NOT READ Far Country!!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
It's only ten novels left before Twilight. Dragoon Civil War is behind me, and I've read Far Country already.
@gregdomenico1891
@gregdomenico1891 3 ай бұрын
@SvenVanDerPlank I'm sorry I couldn't get to you before you read Far Country; nobody should have to be subjected to that abomination. Only 10 to go till Twilight (with the Capellan Solution novels right in the middle of Serpent/Bulldog), then the fun of the FEDCOM Civil War. Plus, there's the assorted Mech Warriors novels, which honestly weren't too bad. The Dark Age novels, on the other hand...
@jefferynelson
@jefferynelson 3 ай бұрын
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@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jeffery.
@AAX11111
@AAX11111 3 ай бұрын
HYPE! HYPE! HYPE!
@RouterChain
@RouterChain 3 ай бұрын
I'm late for the premiere. AGAIN!! But it's still good,thanks for giving us this masterpiece. And now I'm going to do waiting mode till next video.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
No worries. Rendering the next chapter now, will premiere same time next Saturday if you're interested.
@trinalgalaxy5943
@trinalgalaxy5943 3 ай бұрын
Even ignoring the degradation centuries of neglect wrought upon those ships, the simple loss of knowledge and capabilities for production, operation and general maintenance are beyond crimpling. people like to talk about the US bringing the Iowa class battleships back into active service, but even those which are carefully preserved and cared for would be monumental over takings to get operational again. We dont make engines like theirs for decades. We dont make boilers like that anymore. We dont have the cranes required to heft 400 ton turrets out of their holes let alone the equipment to replace or even reline the barrels. ammunition of that caliber is not made anymore. we dont have the foundries required to produce armor plates that thick or that strong. and every year, we lose more and more of the men that served on those ships, reducing any real knowledge for their operation. now apply that onto a spaceborn warship that is several orders of magnitude more complex and degraded...
@zapdragon23
@zapdragon23 3 ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Hesperus is always a good place for a battle.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You're guaranteed to get a good fight out of Steiner if nothing else.
@wrayday7149
@wrayday7149 3 ай бұрын
I'd imagine they would want the old ships for the salvage alone..... the armor plates would make for great base defense.
@mickbrown7793
@mickbrown7793 3 ай бұрын
There were two female coordinators - Siriwan's granddaughter Sanethia also served in that office.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Damn, stupid oversight on my part. I mentioned Sanethia in my Golden Age series as well.
@NewsOfTheInnerSphere
@NewsOfTheInnerSphere 2 ай бұрын
ComStar has a hidden army and fleet!? Gasp! Surely you jest! ComStar is a wholly neutral company that has nothing but the Inner Sphere's best interest at heart! They are the preservers of knowledge, not destroyers! And yes, I do have a ROM Agent standing behind me, why do you ask? 😜
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry, it's just an unfounded rumour.
@NegTharayas16
@NegTharayas16 3 ай бұрын
How much do you want to bet that the invincible was sabotaged by Comstar? With the destruction of all of the remaining Kuritan Warships it becomes a necessity for comstar to maintain the balance by taking the invincible off the board.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
You may already know, but it actually ends up in ComStar hands. I don't know the story of whether they found it by accident or not, but it might not ever have malfunctioned or been sabotaged, but rather infiltrated and then captured.
@gregdomenico1891
@gregdomenico1891 3 ай бұрын
It was mentioned in the First Jihad Hot Spots that they had found her as a Derelict, and she had suffered a drive malfunction, probably due to battle damage. She was supposed to be presented as a gift upon WOB's induction into the Second Star League. We know how that turned out.
@oldyeller1111
@oldyeller1111 3 ай бұрын
And to think Invincible would return again in the Jihad, wielded by the Blakists instead. I get it's stupid but man I really love that story beat. Like imagine the horror of the average Lyran seeing something that's likely a storied part of the martial tradition (at least for the navy) returning to obliterate their capital. That would be like CVN-65 returning today to drop a nuke on New York or something along those lines. Just talk about cool - even if unbelievable, even for Battletech
@sanguiniusonvacation1803
@sanguiniusonvacation1803 3 ай бұрын
How did a Barron class live this long
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
No-one wanted to use it until it was the only choice left.
@thorshammer8033
@thorshammer8033 3 ай бұрын
Just about every Successor state has lost a ruler in combat, except the Combine it seems. Very , very shameful. So shameful that there is only one way to atone ......
@Femerenden
@Femerenden 3 ай бұрын
Kuritan Palace is figuratively the meeting and gathering place of the intelligence services of the inner sphere and likely there are retirement houses in the palace grounds for them.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
It's a real melting pot of ideas. Unfortunately, most of those ideas involve the assassination of a head of state.
@Shark0115
@Shark0115 3 ай бұрын
Sven, love the series and the visuals but one thing bugged me. Your lower-thirds with the characters names was kinda cut of on one of my monitors. Be careful of title safe!
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. Was it one specific instance where I had it in the wrong position or a consistent issue where all of the text is too close to the edge of the screen?
@Shark0115
@Shark0115 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank it was the whole video. I'm sure if I watched on a phone, TV, or different display it could look different. Just wanted to give a heads up.
@devalk_
@devalk_ 3 ай бұрын
While the age of the warship had long been past, Even its memory is not almost gone
@lexington476
@lexington476 3 ай бұрын
🤘
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 3 ай бұрын
You need to remember the OG sourcebooks where ComStsr material , take with grain of salt the details
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Assuming you're talking about PRAYING MANTIS, the Housebooks were alright on that point. The Kurita and Steiner books obviously blame the LIC, but the Davion one introduced the MIIO angle. The Intelligence Agencies sourcebook then blames Roweena and the Kurita Handbook later introduces the whole SAFE angle. I'm sure there is another I'm forgetting about that.
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad the Eredani Light Horse thinks like I do: blow the pirates' dropships to hell and just leave them for the enemy garrison to deal with. 🤣
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
An inspired choice. It's not like the garrison of the world you're raiding is going to ask you to stick around and clean up the mess.
@Archangelm127
@Archangelm127 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank Plus clean getaway while they're fighting each other!
@Kilgore0Trout
@Kilgore0Trout 3 ай бұрын
I've said it before, I'll say it again. No one covers BT history as well as you do. You bring to life events that were merely background fluff for 30+ years.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Well thank you very much. A lot of this project is based on the excellent Historical series of sourcebooks, so I have to give credit to those for really fleshing out the early history that was only ever covered in brief before then.
@lukechaplin3263
@lukechaplin3263 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how they shed that amount of blood and regressed their tech so much, and nobody decided it was futile to continue when the lines barely moved.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
They didn't know what they were fighting for anymore. All they knew was, they had hate in their gut.
@Versudan
@Versudan 3 ай бұрын
I'd be really curious to know what kind of remaining stockpiles of WMDs the successor states have left by this point. WMDs are a lot easier to make than a battlemech, so surely stockpiles would still be decently high.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
There are no figures given in any sourcebook I've read, but the Succession War sourcebooks make it clear they didn't come close to exhausting their supplies before the gentleman's agreement outlawed their use. The Word of Blake would later seize these stockpiles and make use of them during the Jihad.
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 3 ай бұрын
15:04 Santander a name that will come up again . For even more ills
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Santander was first colonised at an unknown point during the Second Succession War. Maybe he fled there in shame and ignominy after the battle.
@griffingamer8624
@griffingamer8624 3 ай бұрын
I swear, some power of the universe keeps having Sven put his video premieres just 5 minutes shy of when I go to work. So weird. Kurita continues to be jerks, and space boats go extinct. What an odd episode.
@DrendarMorevo
@DrendarMorevo 3 ай бұрын
Isn't there also another warship ghost story, "the lost battleship of Merope" or something?
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but that falls into the territory of myths as opposed to what we know for certain. I did address the ComStar "rumours" in the episode, and if anything happened at Merope, it could well have been them.
@kiepyon1
@kiepyon1 3 ай бұрын
Are we going to predict clan war coming in the end of year? lol or september or october?
@Korraganitar
@Korraganitar 3 ай бұрын
ROM, I see what you did there.
@8Aznable8
@8Aznable8 3 ай бұрын
Space at&t don't want you to have a satphone 😄
@theodoremccarthy4438
@theodoremccarthy4438 3 ай бұрын
I love BattleTech as a setting, but the trope of "lost in hyperspace jump" always struck me as cheap and over used.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Well if it makes you feel any better, it wasn't quite as lost as people in 3025 think it was.
@AGS363
@AGS363 3 ай бұрын
It may look like a good idea, to fight the Lyrans on Hesperus. But it is not.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
Surely there is no greater setting for a battle than the mountains and valleys of Hesperus? Who could turn down the opportunity if it arose?
@DiggingForFacts
@DiggingForFacts 3 ай бұрын
The Draks had a really good shot at doing it and winning, had the Commonwealth not pulled a surprising ace out of their sleeve. I mean, what are the odds of the US suddenly restarting production of 16 inch shells and refitting USS Iowa for active service?
@afitz34
@afitz34 3 ай бұрын
Texas Class?
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
We don't know of a single Texas-class that remained behind after Kerensky's exodus.
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 ай бұрын
daddy Kerensky flew away with all the good stuff™
@youtmeme
@youtmeme 3 ай бұрын
Seems stupid..soo many dropships and jumpships, and continual warfare...yet...no warship construction..🤨🤨😒🙄🙄🙄 Excellent vid!!!😉👏🙌👍✌
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
The idea is that while these things are able to project an enormous amount of power, they can be fairly swiftly dealt with by much cheaper means, such as Aerospace fighters carrying nuclear payloads. Once the gloves come off as far as WMDs are concerned, it's just not sensible to construct them given the extreme cost. Any time someone faces one without WarShips of their own, they're going to resort to the nuclear option. By the time the Inner Sphere agrees to limiting weapons of mass destruction, they've lost the technology base needed to build WarShips.
@Tom_Cruise_Missile
@Tom_Cruise_Missile 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they never tried to make any patrol boat type vessels.
@SvenVanDerPlank
@SvenVanDerPlank 3 ай бұрын
That's pretty much what Assault DropShips are. They carry the firepower to defend a system from attack, but lack the Jump Drives needed to travel between stars.
@youtmeme
@youtmeme 3 ай бұрын
@@SvenVanDerPlank ok. But then its totally unreasonable that they actually have a treaty limiting nuclear use....given the severity of warfare, war crimes and clan invasion!!!🤨🤔🤐
@BK2207
@BK2207 3 ай бұрын
@@youtmeme Space warfare became limited to DropShips and Aerospace fighters, as even JumpShips were considered too precious to lose because of the limited means to build them or maintain them. Total warfare just became too risky for so little gain, as the Great Houses massive losses started to destabilize them internally. With even planet colonisation being a capacity lost across humanity, warfare became more ritualised and codified, as even BattleMech technology was severely limited (if not lost). War crimes still happened later on, but rarely through the means of WMDs. Yes, the Clan Invasion did brought back the threat of WarShips from the Clans (despite rarely using them outside of a support role), with the Inner Sphere rebuilding their space capacities in time as ComStar deployed their hidden fleets.
@oriffel
@oriffel 3 ай бұрын
:'(
@lorefox201
@lorefox201 3 ай бұрын
press F for the last warships
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