BATTLETECH: The Case for Comstar

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Big Red-40TECH

Big Red-40TECH

Күн бұрын

Well, the KZfaq Members wanted me to do this opinion piece, and here it is. I perhaps share a bit too much of my own personal journey with this, with the disaster that was the #Battletech novel from the Hinterlands series.
But, what can I say? #Comstar, the #BlessedOrder, and the #WordofBlake, and especially their players and enthusiasts, deserve better.
Within, I will be talking about the death of Comstar, why that's bad for the game as a whole, and why the #DarkAge and #Ilclan era are probably never going to manage to encourage any Blakists to follow them.
Comstar was brought up several times, along with the #Celestials, when I watched the #Adepticon live-stream for the #Mercenaries #Kickstarter launch. The members more specifically asked me to do this piece, and bribed me even, to make it happen.
So here it is. I just hope it's not a total trainwreck.
I also recommend supporting the Battletech Kickstarter, which can be found here:
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And I'd recommend checking out the last pieces of Comstar's lore in universe, which cover the final iteration of the #ComGuard, and the Blessed Order:
store.catalystgamelabs.com/pr...
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@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
It was a great editorial piece. Spoken from the heart like a true fan. 👍 I don't think it would hurt the Ilkhanate storyline to have a Blakist/Comstar remnant force in existence somewhere picking up the pieces.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always hate doing these kinds of pieces. lol
@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH Honest, positive comments will get positive attention from the in-house creators. I've been A fiery, passionate fanboy in the past too. But it's a proverb that one catches more flies with honey than vinegar. Being a great whale might help too lol. 🙂
@jessicalacasse6205
@jessicalacasse6205 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH just for the lam mech it would be 100% worth it to me plus later the line the celestial TY FOR TRYING ...
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
@@observationsfromthebunker9639 I think the Devs by and large are good people, doing what they can to give us a good story atm, and there is a lot of be excited for. The streaming members more or less asked me to write this, which are my feelings to be clear, but I don't usually like doing editorial pieces tbh.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
@@jessicalacasse6205 LAMs are cancer. lol
@PostalService85
@PostalService85 Жыл бұрын
You can’t give a faction something as big as Tukkayid, and then erase them without consequences. A solid video essay, sir.
@christianhennebold8274
@christianhennebold8274 Жыл бұрын
Empires fall, others rise. But it doesnt mean that ComStar cant be utilized in remnant roles for own campaigns
@MrJack556
@MrJack556 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@sinjin8576
@sinjin8576 11 ай бұрын
A counter point. How many generals, platoons, leaders and soldiers have performed *amazing* feats of tactics or military might throughout history? How many of those groups or individuals are remembered in any capacity other than historical? The Spartans pulled off a feat unheard of before or since but how many militaries utilize any of their tactics since? War is a ever shifting beast and militaries large and small, advanced and poor get left behind regardless of their victories or prowess.
@Skarlet-ju8sr
@Skarlet-ju8sr 10 ай бұрын
​@sinjin8576 well the idea of holding a chokepoint against a stronger force has held up long after the Spartans, so in a way there's that tradition.
@shark_2283
@shark_2283 10 ай бұрын
i dont know what more you wanted out of a death of comestar. they nuked multiple worlds of great importance
@ivanthemadvandal8435
@ivanthemadvandal8435 Жыл бұрын
Thing is that Comstar always posed a unique threat within BT. Everying else, from the Succession Wars to the Clan Invasion are just conventional military conflicts. Comstar/WoB were beyond just being a conventional military threat, they were an information based superpower. Loosing them with nothing remotely like it to take it's place cheapens the setting, it narrows everything down to just another military threat without having to wonder in the back of you mind if your your serving your own purposes or theirs.
@RyeFields
@RyeFields Жыл бұрын
The death of ComStar has really hurt even as someone who doesn't play them much if at all. They felt like an amazing and well fleshed out faction and even had their own unique tech, but now to be relegated to the dustbin...
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Yea dude :\
@MrSigmatico
@MrSigmatico Жыл бұрын
It is odd that they have invested so much effort into creating a major faction just to destroy it, would be like taking out one of the noble houses just dont make any sense.
@HimmelGanger
@HimmelGanger Жыл бұрын
@@MrSigmatico i can understand your point, but the issue is that Battletech has had many owners over time and that means there has been so many cooks for the lore stew, thus what FASA set up 40 years ago have now no maybe no natural spot to fill in how the universe evolve as the current owners envision the IP 😊
@ValdVincent
@ValdVincent 2 ай бұрын
@@HimmelGanger Yeah, wasn't it one of the new owners that just said speed the timeline up to create a new era, and so they wipped out comstar.
@trilit2
@trilit2 Жыл бұрын
I for one will never believe that comstar(/blakeists/the blessed order) have really died. Every time a dropship goes missing or some pirates seem too well trained and equipped and having some strange raids ill know for sure who to suspect behind it. The faction that built in and from the shadows will always be out there.
@andreykuzmin4317
@andreykuzmin4317 6 ай бұрын
Peace of Blake be with you, brother.
@TsugeSenpai
@TsugeSenpai Жыл бұрын
I love Com Star. They are like the GodFather pulling the strings behind the scenes with all the great houses squabbling with each other. It's maniacal and purpose driven and awesome.
@nemamiah7832
@nemamiah7832 Жыл бұрын
Praised be Blake. ComStar is gone. But we are still here. On Canopus. Doing Battle Powder and watching girls in latex, because I saved my retirement funds in gold and parts instead of C-Bills. We'll be back. Maybe. One day. Ex-Acolyte Rho IV Nemamiah, over and out.
@ivanthemadvandal8435
@ivanthemadvandal8435 Жыл бұрын
Girls in latex is very vanilla for Canopus.
@TheGemmaster22
@TheGemmaster22 Жыл бұрын
So now everyone who loved them is going to make an "ex comstar" Lance XD
@morrigancollins2092
@morrigancollins2092 Жыл бұрын
Your location has been noted. Dispatching a retirement team to your geographical region. Please enjoy your severance package.
@Psychohistorian42
@Psychohistorian42 Жыл бұрын
I've been slowly catching up on post Civil War lore since I started getting back into Battletech. Like I knew the HPGs were all down, but I didn't know Comstar had been taken out until recently. It does seem kinda weird that there's nothing left at all. No ComGuards turning mercenary or something. No splinter group setting up an alliance with the Scorpion Empire.
@jedarcega1658
@jedarcega1658 Жыл бұрын
ComGuards were integrated into the Republic of the Sphere military. Some tried to bring back a return but were crushed by the RotS on Epsilon Eridani.
@SindriTheReaper
@SindriTheReaper Жыл бұрын
I don't see why you can't have ComStar Remnants as a minor faction come bank by hardcore believers who hid away during the Fall of ComStar and the rise of the Word of Blake. I feel it's very realistic, with small groups of ComStar personnel just disappearing during the upheavals.
@AGS363
@AGS363 Жыл бұрын
The big thing I can not understand, is why the authors and lore keepers go out of their way to make sure that the Blessed Order is completely dead. Why not leave a glimmer of Hope? NO, we can have that. The Order is dead and will stay dead!
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I don't have any info on that, sadly.
@claytonhollowell4488
@claytonhollowell4488 Жыл бұрын
Based on some offhand comments from CGL here and there, I think they have A) no current plans to bring back Blakism, and B) felt like they misled people with the Elements of Treason: Opportunity episode, and also felt bad about that. So they wanted to set the record straight so they didn't feel like they were baiting people.
@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth
@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth Жыл бұрын
My bitterness doesn't just come from the fact that Comstar died. It was how it was killed; it came across as pissing on the faction. On top of that my first introduction to Battletech was the Mechassault game and the villain was The Word of Blake. And yes, its death did cause me to lose long term interest in the universe do to the fact I invested into this faction. Because of that I have a hard time justifying getting back into the universe, like why should I if they can just kill off any major faction at the drop of a hat. And now my only interaction with Battletech is you, Black Pants, and MW5.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
They don't normally kill Major factions at a drop of the hat, and even when they die, death isn't entirely the end for most, as I've shown in the video, to be fair.
@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth
@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH I know, Im still sad about it.
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH But that still makes the "absolute" death of the Blakest sub-Factions all the more bitter, especially when the out of universe reasoning boils down to "We got tired of writing them..."
@andreykuzmin4355
@andreykuzmin4355 Жыл бұрын
Blake lives in death... and Comstar lives in our hearts.
@Kpiozero
@Kpiozero Жыл бұрын
I think Comstar serves(served) many critical roles in the storytelling of Battletech. And while you’ve mentioned many of them I feel like you may have missed some too. Comstar had a unique role in setting as an umpire who put their thumb on the scale. They acted as a sort of insurance that your favorite faction who wouldn’t get dogpiled by the other houses or even the clans. And there’s some value in that. Here’s hoping they have the power to return in some way.
@thestabbybrit4798
@thestabbybrit4798 Жыл бұрын
This entirely. I get that Clan Sea Fox sort of plays this role, but they really lack the "screwing about in the shadows" aspect.
@Kpiozero
@Kpiozero Жыл бұрын
@@thestabbybrit4798 I would LOVE it if Clan Sea Fox started playing spy-games with everyone else. They've got almost all the pieces in place to start acting like Comstar, and they could easily form their own sort of ideology about how they're the ones who will save mankind.
@Eserchie
@Eserchie Жыл бұрын
@@Kpiozero Seconding this as being an awesome idea.
@theJellyjoker
@theJellyjoker Жыл бұрын
I could see Constar as being a decentralized splinter faction in the Ilclan era that could reform when a charismatic leader unifies the remanent and brings new blood into the fold. Basically starting out as a mercenary like faction and ending up as a psudo-state like faction.
@kagetemplar
@kagetemplar Жыл бұрын
As a war gaming table top game BT's factions have two main goals beyond interesting lore. 1st, provide an in universe excuse for absolutely any faction to beat the snot out of absolutely any other faction, and it's self. 2nd, and more importantly for BR40K's point, is to be something that people can get behind. Players can get get excited for a faction based on aesthetic, play style, values, or lore. Commstar provides a high tech, quality over quantity, religious character that is unique within BT. Even thought some other factions share many of these quality none do with the same favour. For example, Commstar's religion is about uplifting humanity. The religious traits shown by some Clans are more about domination of humanity. No faction in BT can fill the niche that Commstar does. Nor does Commstar have any place in being a major player BT. It's religious elements doesn't fit well with the Dynastic politics of the Great Houses. It's uplifting values would be seen as a weakness among the Clans. Commstar was at it's best when it was working in the shadows to nudge the universe towards it's own designs. Starting a war here, bring peace and stability there, and coming planet side with it's unassailable tech only when matters have gone too far beyond tolerable. Everything about Commstar fit that role perfectly. Even down to it's fall to fanaticism, and losing it's path to capitalism. Commstar can never return to it's past power, the mistrust and hate it has earned runs too deep. Growing in strength as a secretive power broker lurking in the shadows is the perfect fate for it's adherents. Those loyal to Commstar will never show their hand. Those that deal with Commstar will never know it's true intentions, or identity. Those that face off against Commstar will fear the bizarre and near alien forms of it's battlemechs. In a thousand tiny was Commstar will bend the path of history closer and closer to their chosen course.
@terrinils3165
@terrinils3165 Жыл бұрын
If Catalyst brings back the Knights of Inner Sphere using the remnants of the Knights of the Republic, I'm going to raise hell. 😂
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
But what if they made their uniform just an addias tracksuit? Would that work?
@terrinils3165
@terrinils3165 Жыл бұрын
@BigRed40k Brit posers in tracksuits provide a very different picture.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Imagine these super-british people all trying to pretend like they belong. It'd be fantastic. They spit out the Vodka when they sip it. XD
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigRed40TECH yes that will work 😀!
@gary9346
@gary9346 Жыл бұрын
Interesting...
@commandermcnash5137
@commandermcnash5137 Жыл бұрын
To the Comstar fans: **Never give up in Leagues of Votann** Remember, the Squats were killed for almost a quarter of a century, but then they went back.
@spotH3D
@spotH3D Жыл бұрын
Well said Big Red. Of the great houses, clans, periphery, and merc life, Comstar/Blakists was something distinct from all of that. It is baffling they decided to kill off that entire tree. To be replaced by the smartest best can do no wrong, can never fail Clan Sea Fox? Lame.
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
I'll be the last ComGuard hold out. My clanbuster King Crab and I will be in a nameless desert on a nameless planet waiting for ComStar to rise from the ashes 🙂.
@archangel2709
@archangel2709 Жыл бұрын
Comstar to me was always one of the most iconic and interesting factions in battletech its sad to see it go...
@untamedzer0
@untamedzer0 Жыл бұрын
Oooooh it's about Comstar! I like it already, Blake be praised!
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I'd not call this video as a happy go lucky video. It's not about Comstar itself in a lot of ways, but the abandonment of its players. :(
@untamedzer0
@untamedzer0 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH I love Comstar and all of its quirkiness. I'm not a big fan of everything Dark Age and beyond and a lot of that is because of what happens to Comstar. That said, I also don't really see them as a faction one plays often. They never were a major player opting for the cloak and dagger approach, but they could have been so much more. Instead, we get click bait....er base.... Dark Age.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
This is addressed in the video.
@wheturangi
@wheturangi Жыл бұрын
Even I as a long term Kuritan, am interested in Comstar. I like them as the hidden faction. Always watching from the shadows. They should be out there waiting, watching and even meddling. I have come to the conclusion: - There is no Comstar - Comstar will find you like the Boogeyman. Always hidden, never real.
@michaellehner3339
@michaellehner3339 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear how hard this all was for you. In contrast, i have fondest memories of the time when ComStar was still around and i was in the very only ComStar chapter in the (very first) Mechforce within several hundred kilometers around. In case of doubt, i merely recount one of our table traditions: when doing attack rolls, the chapter leader always was the one to roll first, then going down along the side of the table. All rolled with the same dice cup and pair of dice. This made sure that when the initiative roll came up, the dice were as far away from the chapter leader as possible. Who then chanted out that he shall be handed the dice, so we one by one handed the dice forward, each chanting "here are the dice". When the chapter leader received the dice, he shook the cup and put it on the table. Before lifting it, he chanted "in Blakes name", to which all replied "in his name". Only then the initiative roll was to be revealed. It sure drove some of our opponents mad, but we and anybody watching had so much fun... :)
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
The only thing really difficult for me, was how Elements of Treason went down and just having to deal with tellikng people that were hyped at a return of the Blakists, that it wasn't going down. That was hard, ngl.
@michaellehner3339
@michaellehner3339 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH Yea. I formulated that badly. Sorry, english is not my native language. I simply wanted to cheer you up, telling you that i know plenty of old ComStar people, who are long past the problem, still fondly remember the old times and don't really feel troubled by what the writers are doing. So i hope you rather can get some joy from old ComStar and not be troubled by anything around it.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
@@michaellehner3339 It's not so much that I'm troubled, its that Battletech is entering a great new entertaining age, and its leaving behind a lot of players from one subsection, which I think is unfortunate. Apparently, so does my audience, which is why they bribed me to make this opinion piece lol
@mechwarrior7278
@mechwarrior7278 Жыл бұрын
I’m just gonna say, Big Red, we as the Battletech community are blessed to have someone as passionate as you who can bring us these thought pieces that are so incredible. Thank you for your sheer awesomeness. May Liao be burnt into crispy toast, and may COMSTAR always be remembered as that phone company who kicked the clanners butts. Also, that MW5 footage! Was that the mech-commander mod? That was amazing stuff to watch! Bravo 👌🏻👍🏻
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Just MW5, just using the free camera mode.
@edwardclay7551
@edwardclay7551 Жыл бұрын
Given the plot hook of the 3 missing secret worlds we can continue fielding the Shadow Divisions for the Word of Blake. And as an OpFor or enemy it would make a large problem for a lot of people.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
One of those hidden worlds is dead already btw. lol
@edwardclay7551
@edwardclay7551 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH I like the base hidden inside the hyperspace side of a Sun.
@edwardclay7551
@edwardclay7551 Жыл бұрын
​@@BigRed40TECH I believe the developers confirmed that the missing worlds and run away Shadow Divisions etc were left for the holdover Comstar/Word of Blake Players.
@infernum5646
@infernum5646 Жыл бұрын
Loved this video. Comstar is a faction ive always loved and you have put into words much of what many of their fans feel. Keep up the great work.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
People asked me to do it XD
@EmperorPylades
@EmperorPylades Жыл бұрын
It's really odd to me that there's no Blakist/Comstar successor given that 315X is very clearly being set up as the new 3025/3062: A gigantic, messy free for all where everybody can carve out their own place.😊
@Skadooch
@Skadooch Жыл бұрын
When I see the Comstar logo, I hear it to the tune of the Sega logo .... "Coommmm-Staaar". Gets me every time.
@MrSororitas
@MrSororitas Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thank you for the coverage of this topic despite the non too hopeful words at adepticon.
@IceSilent
@IceSilent Жыл бұрын
I’m fairly new to Battletech, Big Red really helped me get into it, and even I feel the the IlClan era SORELY misses some form of Comstar.
@jamesoakes192
@jamesoakes192 Жыл бұрын
Excellent if rather sombre topic. Thanks for making it, it was really interesting.
@sluggaboyzWC3
@sluggaboyzWC3 Жыл бұрын
my current force I'm building for il-clan is mercs that used to be some form of Comstar under the 85th division(as it's my tukayyid force) and they are just going under the name 'The White Lions'. and hearing the end bit of lore does make things more interesting for me. Sure Comstar is dead but heroes and villains are immortal. Confractus Lupus, Redi Ordinis
@matthewpena3932
@matthewpena3932 Жыл бұрын
If battletech was just lore and novels it would be fine to kill off a faction. But it is a game and one thing CGL says it is most important to have fun but how can you do that when you can’t play with your toys if your friends are playing in ilclan? There should have been a path for players to love into besides shelve your models. Also note I do not play comstar but I have had this happen to me in other game systems. Knowing that they are gone stinks explaining this to newer gamers.
@Musabre
@Musabre Жыл бұрын
40k had a few purges over the years that left lovingly crafted units of mine unusable in anything but an 'old-hammer' match up, that surprise surprise, practically no-one plays.
@matthewpena3932
@matthewpena3932 Жыл бұрын
@@Musabre I feel you my friend I have lost game systems and friend because events like this. But I try to help those newer to systems I’m in to enjoy what we do have.
@observationsfromthebunker9639
@observationsfromthebunker9639 Жыл бұрын
What made the perma-kill of Comstar egregious was the resurrection of Clans that had been officially destroyed in Canon events. I agree with Big Red that there should be consistency on both sides of the dead/reborn line.
@gary9346
@gary9346 Жыл бұрын
Factions need to die. New factions need to be created. Otherwise the setting will stagnate. There is no drug quite as powerful as nostalgia, and while the old guys of the setting will huff it into perpetuity, it means there will be no new fans.
@saeklas
@saeklas Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, and helpful too, as a relatively new player to the game I was intending to start my collection with the Kickstarter and was thinking of painting them as ComStar. Probably still will, but it is nice to know that doing so will have some consequences.
@maximusdarc
@maximusdarc Жыл бұрын
I voted no originally, but I think you've convinced me to switch. Good video!
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I just try to do my best to argue what's best to players at the end of the day. :)
@jamesmortimer4016
@jamesmortimer4016 Жыл бұрын
The death of comstar is one of the reasons why I am not interested in things past the clan invasion
@Makon0006
@Makon0006 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video, Big Red. When I was first getting into tabletop some 3 or so years ago now, Comstar was absolutely one of the factions on the table for me to paint up and run. I later went with my own Merc company, but there's always been a part of me that heard Blake's call. For them to be snuffed out in entirety, with nowhere for those players to turn to, feels tragic to me. Comstar was absolutely a release valve for people who wanted something other than The Houses or The Clans, so for it to just be turned off and dried out is ... well, it's weird. Especially given the nature of the faction, of their beliefs, and the prevalence of their teachings throughout the Inner Sphere, I can only hope Catalyst decides to about-face on it somewhere down the line.
@TheGreenKnight500
@TheGreenKnight500 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I've never had much emotional investment in Comstar, but I still think they're interesting. I don't think it would be lore-breaking or contrived to have them continue to exist in some form, even if they remained obscure and not very powerful. After all, it's a big galaxy out there and you can hide a lot of weird stuff in it. If a bunch of Blake worshipers wanted to set up a secret commune somewhere, they probably get away with it.
@jedarcega1658
@jedarcega1658 Жыл бұрын
I love this video. You have totally described my hiatus from Battletech when they wrote ComStar off. The fact that they started nerfing ComStar to WoB actions so that we went from the veterans of Tukayyid to the Keystone Cops that just blunder from one loss to another was just deflating. I didn't start out ComGuard, I played Mercenary until my friends needed someone to play it. It grew on me and I became a dedicated ComStar player. I wasn't a toaster worshipper...more like an Inner Spheroid who bought into the "Saving the Inner Sphere" stance that ComStar espoused in the 3000's to attract more followers. The Schism was a great foil for players who were once brethren and now nemesis to each other. Great video. Thanks for talking about ComStar.
@nos2342
@nos2342 Жыл бұрын
Thank you all the work you do.
@MrFleem
@MrFleem Жыл бұрын
On the subject of factions that died in the lore and was never really a living part of the game, I always saw the Republic of the Sphere as the Terran Hegemony brought forward from the lore into the actual game.
@thedocklighter
@thedocklighter Жыл бұрын
I find it curious that one aspect of Comstar was its contribution to the stability of interstellar commerce in the universe of Battletech, glossed over in favour of its more intriguing shadowy & techno-religious elements. True that the C-bill was largely backed by the value of HPG services, now largely defunct on the Dark Age & Ilclan eras, but it was a central background element of economic exchange for - especially in the newest KS offering - mercenaries. I can't imagine mercs having to cram their limited cargo holds full of ammunition because that's the only stable commodity of exchange left to them.
@Ironclockwork
@Ironclockwork Жыл бұрын
Seeing the Clans without Comstar in the hooplah of the Inner Sphere boogaloo feels somewhat... lopsided; they were the two biggest remainders of the Star League that ultimately twisted into crooked mirror-images who considered themselves the true inheritors to the Star League's legacy. Each of these two overarching superfactions were good counterweights to each other and illustrated how diversely the remnants of the Star League diverged when separated and subjected to entirely different politically environmental influences.
@evangilbert5251
@evangilbert5251 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I definitely feel the pain, not only for ComStar, but for factions like Retribution of Scyrah (which is now Elf Cryx), or the Protectorate of Menoth from Warmachine. It's a pity when for the narrative, factions die, particularly when they have so much more to offer narratively.
@evangilbert5251
@evangilbert5251 Жыл бұрын
And it makes less sense, feeling more like author fiat than an organic development within the narrative
@corvaxblackfeather6529
@corvaxblackfeather6529 Жыл бұрын
I do now understand much better what you mean Red. Thanks for this Vid and the explaining tone of it
@CarlosSempereChen
@CarlosSempereChen Жыл бұрын
Great piece. I like your editorials - we like hearing your personal stories, and you don't let them get in the way of your rational arguments. I was going to say that ComStar lost kinda their raison d'etre once the Inner Sphere recovered old technology and started to break free from ROM's attempts to keep the Inner Sphere down. They were terrifying in 3025. In 3039 they were still able to influence a major war. It took some creative writing to keep them relevant during the Clan Invasion, glorious as that was. They needed a new role after that and the Jihad was only good for a short-term burst. But you convinced me that it would've been worth finding them a new role after the Jihad - that their equipment and culture is unique and important to the setting. I personally see a lot of potential in the Third Star League set in 3250 hinted at by the recent TRO intro blurbs. In my dreams, that's Catalyst's big chance to make any big changes they feel are appropriate, but also to re-introduce us to old factions as they reappear during the Spartacus-style uprisings. While I'm dreaming, let's have the IlClan decide that a Star League-worshipping religion or state department is a useful tool for managing the Spheroid population. Maybe they run the schools, dunno. I think they could once again be mysterious and frightening institution in between the Inner Sphere and the Clans.
@cynthiamiller586
@cynthiamiller586 Жыл бұрын
Given that Comstar is "my" faction, I just don't bother with anything after their destruction. I would happily dive into the later eras otherwise. I still read up on the eras past that point... I just don't play games in them.
@OptimusJedi
@OptimusJedi Жыл бұрын
Great video and even as a new player I can say ComStar is my favorite faction. While there are a bunch of others that I like, it was the ComGuards with their white mechs and the outstanding art on the Battle of Tukayyid sourcebook that solidified my interest in the lore.
@dashiellgillingham4579
@dashiellgillingham4579 Жыл бұрын
We all long to comprehend the nature of our foundation. People sense the proximity of Comstar to the reason science fiction looks like this, so we are drawn to it intensely. Comstar makes the space empires make sense. Comstar carries a weight to it that enforces the strict consistent logic and scientific process that makes this fandom so incredibly, amazingly different. A lot of people, those who haven't spent years actually studying the history of science fiction at the college level like I have, don't grasp why this is. It's because Comstar is the Foundation. Isaac Asimov's THE Foundation. The only one there will ever be, so long as our species may retain his work. The Imperium was an idealistic, decaying, and then utterly fallen polity Asimov explicitly stole from the book "the Fall of the Roman Empire," who's story he was adapting, with one twist. "Because it was so obvious these social forces were colliding in hindsight, what if someone noticed?" That single sentence, which stopped instantly the 'teenager' (who's actual, real, mid-20th-century peasant family had no record of his own age, and were forced to abide by a scientific theory about it for the rest of their lives) while he was running from the brand-new pipe factory that had been repurposed to build torpedoes to make it to the class he was crashing (his society was not paying him to learn, it was paying him to build weapons). That single moment, which hung over him for the rest of his life, changed science fiction for the rest of foreseeable history, and he knew it the moment he had it. He wrote it into his story, as it doesn't matter who had the idea in his future science of 'psychohistory,' it only matters what the odds are that someone has that idea. If you like modern science fiction, or basically any science fiction since the 1950's, you probably owe something to that exact moment, and it is going to resonate with you, even if it's not for my reasons from my reading laid out above. The loss of Comstar, or a true successor to it, is such a symbolic loss that it has set a great mass of this fandom on fire, and given most of it even more reason to linger in the earliest age of this setting. Back when the influence was closer.
@kilrathi827
@kilrathi827 6 ай бұрын
Good editorial piece. Honestly, the death of ComStar/WoB is one of the reasons my local meta is hesitant to move forward to the Dark Age and ilClan eras. We're still mainly stuck in the Clan Invasion & FedCom Civil War at latest. Like you said, it's not so much that ComStar DIED, it's that it died and didn't give folks anywhere to go. I think if they had ended up melded into the Republic of the Sphere, and the Republic survived and became the inheritors of the Blakist identity, that would have been fine. If ComGuard units had successor units in the Republic's armies that carried their battle honors, great. But now with the Republic dead & gone, what's left? Even as someone for whom ComStar is a 3rd tier favorite fashion, it just feels like an unexplainable gaping hole in the lore.
@jasonfarley9025
@jasonfarley9025 11 ай бұрын
I have only just discovered your channel, but as a HUGE Comstar fan from the original era of the game, and who played through the Clan Invasion as it released. The fact that my favourite faction is gone (and my second favourite, the Wolf Wardens, are functionally gone) really does kill enthusiasm for the new eras. Plenty of other things do too (looking at you special ammo types) but the loss of my favourite faction(s) is the key. I simply don't want to play the new material.
@Sigil_Firebrand
@Sigil_Firebrand Жыл бұрын
Praise be Blake. I listened to this video while trimming up some 3d printed Celestials, I personally argue that in my own headcannon, the Word, the Comguard, aren't totally dead, some remnants remain and when I fight post-Blakist era armies that's my argument for my force. I don't expect a resurrection, hell at this point I don't even expect a cannon acknowledgement that a remnant exists, but until the last Blakist falls I will not lay down my metaphorical sword and accept the death of my faction. A beautiful video, and a huge thank you from me, even if this is, almost an epitaph to Comstar/Word. Blake Dominatus. Lupus Delenda Est.
@dwalk9674
@dwalk9674 Жыл бұрын
I've grown to love the WoB. I would love to see more on them and the celestial battlemechs. I wasn't a fan when they were new and now love them. I find it pretty shitty that they are bringing back all those merc units like wolf's dragoons and gray death legion. But they can't keep comstar around? I really am not a fan of the ilclan era. Clan Wolf is the damn ultramarines of BT.
@dicksledge4323
@dicksledge4323 Жыл бұрын
Comstar has to have a splinter faction or rogue cell still kicking around out there. Maybe they're like a BlackRock or Vanguard controlling industry from the shadows through investments and slowly rebuilding their military might.
@DarkLadyMarie
@DarkLadyMarie 13 күн бұрын
my wife and I only got into Battletech a couple years ago and mostly just casually doing AS. Comcast is our favorite because its so different than the rest of the setting yet fits so well into it. ATT wizards are goofy but they make sense in the lore and contrast nicely against the hyper-militarism and eugenics factions running around. I miss them and their big crabs. Their non-existentce is why its hard for us to get attached to the new era
@armundojones
@armundojones Жыл бұрын
And in researching a response to this I discovered how Blakes Heart went out. Damn Regullans. Another possibility nuked.
@MysteryMastery69
@MysteryMastery69 Жыл бұрын
I've always liked comstar as a plot device, but I wish they had kept the comguard or at least some subset of them as true Star League remnants. Great video, always love your takes man.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I don't see the Comguards as being related very much to the Star League tbh, they really formed much later as a real thing. The Silver Shields were more the Comguard remnant, and that didn't last for long after the 1st Succession War.
@starkille10r72
@starkille10r72 Жыл бұрын
One way the Com Guards could stick around in the IlClan era when Mercenaries is taking place would be, much like the Eridani Light Horse did and other ex-SLDF groups after the fall of the league, is to turn to mercenary work, rebuilding themselves over time with some financial backing if nothing else from the ROM agents that had infiltrated noble houses, and when the inevitable warring states era they seem keen to set up with how all the factions are breaking up or preparing to break up happens, they could carve out their own minor holdings and defend it from outsiders, a second blessed order. Also, everything was Katherine's fault.
@CraigSteinhoff
@CraigSteinhoff 3 ай бұрын
So just getting into Battletech and Comstar is what drew my in. I am hoping that they come back :)
@shellbackbeau7021
@shellbackbeau7021 Жыл бұрын
I didn't even consider the comstar path to play as because they've all died before I started, but I would love to play them.
@nexusofice9135
@nexusofice9135 Жыл бұрын
I see Blakism making a shadow resurgence. Will it be the future Space Phone company in the future? Probably not. Nor should they. There are so many ways you can still have Blakist in the setting in positions of power, but not in the neutral position it once was.
@jamesh2321
@jamesh2321 Жыл бұрын
When I first heard of this game it was still called 'battledroids'... When I first played it, there was no such thing as the internet or even the clans. I didn't like the feel of the 'great houses' so I played a mercenary group back then. When the clans came out, I read all the lore I could find and landed on a few choices that intrigued me for mech choice, overall lore, and battle tactics. That being Wolf/Coyote (in the beginning I considered them arms of the same animal), Hell's Horses, and Goliath Scorpions. I ended up main-ing the Wolves because my friend who also played was a Green Chicken... er, Jade Falcon, and so our honor duels would be awesome fun. I loved the MW PC games when they came out. Hell I was in some very well known clans and was a decent player thru the mw3 and mw4 era- until the servers died. I also played and loved MechCommander, MegaMek, and another game that I cannot remember the name of for the life of me. I was in the beta for MWO... but I don't think I've logged into that game in years. It just didn't feel like the BT I had grown to love. I bought MW5 for PS5 and it's kinda the same way. I hated the Jihad era, to be fair. I thought it was all to cliche', too sudden, and too 'on the nose' given the religious and geopolitical things going on in real life at the time. But I always held out a strange begrudging respect for ComStar and in particular, Focht and the ComGuards who figured out exactly how the clans would fight- and out-thought them rather than out-fought them. I hated reading ComStar had 'died'. It seemed like a part of what was the tapestry of BT/MW lore died then, too. Worse to me than the 'clicky-tech', worse than the 'unseen/reseen', worse than the clones of Thomas Marik, and worse than Pitting a Mackie against a Dire Wolf. I hope for those who took all that time to get those white paint jobs JUST RIGHT--- that something comes along you can feel happy with.
@ornu01
@ornu01 Жыл бұрын
One of the lessons you learn early on from the more story driven RPGs, is that when the writers do something stupid you just ignore it. ComStar is necessary for the survival of Battletech, they are the last bastion of an advanced humanity protecting against a backslide into barbarism that the Houses and Clans want so much. Without the delusional and hypocritical insanity of ComStar, there's just no hope.
@norbertbraktekstu4500
@norbertbraktekstu4500 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Thanks for enjoying it.
@dutchduke8864
@dutchduke8864 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video with great points. And I hope the blessed order survived in some form. I’m waiting for clan Nova Cats revival. I want them to melt the Combine forces with all those medium lasers on the Nova.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I don't think the Nova Cats are coming back, but they do have a successor in the Spirit Cats.
@rjlarose5271
@rjlarose5271 Жыл бұрын
I think one good way to handle Com Star in the new era is like the Imperial remnants in the old EU. Have different factions of Com Star each believing that their way is the correct one and have some infighting to see who's view is right. And maybe have some central figures arise and bring the shattered bits together.
@flintyewwood7563
@flintyewwood7563 Жыл бұрын
I didn't like Comstar but I recognise the dynamic the gave the game as a mutual opfor for clan and innersphere alike. They presented a techbase oligarchy that operated on domination through limitation of tech. All others are more social designs they worked at what was the "core" of the true conflict of mankind, the need to advance while also the need for conflict being self destructive.
@MajorTymojo
@MajorTymojo Жыл бұрын
Even after the blakist era it does feel weird, for a religious subculture with deep resources human and financial, that with 8-9 digits numbers of people who probably say "praise blake" when something good happens that the blakists are completely gone. Personally, comstar represents to me the worst kind of power which can be concentrated in exalted institutions whether from their prestigious links to old Terran hard power or their religion, but that's why they were such good villains. And every mustache which will now never be twirled while a body double tries to assassinate the 3rd cousin twice removed to a head of state is a sadness.
@edwardaugustus9680
@edwardaugustus9680 Ай бұрын
My introduction to Battletech was Tex's video on Tukayyid and though clearly a biased account really sold the Comguard to me as a faction. So when I started reading the lore and found out they and their successors were gone I was very dejected and basically lost interest in the game for a couple years. Now I'm giving it a go again but am struggling to find a faction that appeals to me as much as the Blakests did
@jlokison
@jlokison Жыл бұрын
My personal opinion, which might not matter, is that it doesn't matter what official lore says when you understand the official lores history. Most of the stories are about generals, national leaders, and people that become such. But their are thousands of inhabited star systems in the innersphere and trillions of people. In 3025 their were mercenaries that traced their lineage to the Terran Hegemony and the SLDF. Mechs that were used for hundreds of years. Outside the inner sphere their are periphery states and countless other star systems with inhabitable worlds. Unless you can guarantee every Comstar/WOB/Blessed Order loyal human and cyborg was killed, that no jumpships went missing, that every member was accounted for, then they can show up in one form or another. They developed a lot of tech that a lot of people would be interested and will to hide people on many worlds to get. Just as an example: The Magistracy of Canopus has a history of biological and cybernetic modification. By 3150 it's about a century since the clan invasion and both the Wolf's Dragoons and Comstar opened up a little to outsiders to help all against the external threat. There was a group of people on Luna and the belt in the Sol System even better than the Canners at biogenetic modifications. The Wolf Empire doesn't have the manpower to control everything in the Sol System but they are probably making things very difficult for those that don't fit in the clan ways of doing things. Combined with a century to capture and examine clan elemental, mechwarrior and aerospace pilot genomes. It really wouldn't surprise me if the Canopans start fielding units using WOB cybernetics, Comstar electronics and advanced bioengineering technology. How long would it take for others to find out about such augmented MIM agents or since the Magistracy isn't very aggressive that the have thing like quadruped Battlearmor for Clydesdale sized Centaurs. Lots of rules for different tech at different Eras, but also rules for making your own thing anywhere along the time lines. Are certain things going to require consent from the person on the other side of the table? Yes, but anachronistic tech can be explained a lot of ways.
@jjsheets330
@jjsheets330 Жыл бұрын
The Blessed Order is still alive and well in the deep periphery as the ComStar Protectorate. Blessed be Blake
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I am skeptical of this lol
@justinhammer3196
@justinhammer3196 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Fever on WKRP made it clear you don't mess with the phone cops. He was a wise man.
@graycard668
@graycard668 Жыл бұрын
Blake be praised.
@redasylum
@redasylum Жыл бұрын
I really like that Comstar Black Knight during the intro.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Cover of the Tukayyid Sourcebook from CGL, it's fantastic.
@AnonymousONIagent
@AnonymousONIagent Жыл бұрын
How much Wolf could Clan Wolf Wolf if Clan Wolf could Wolf Wolves
@lucassmith4524
@lucassmith4524 Жыл бұрын
Comstar need not be gone. That said, i would not give up on the setting simply because my favorite faction was destroyed. I enjoy the fluid nature of the setting and i think that were it as static as some wish it to be (3025-3062 only), the setting would miss a trick so to speak. Also, my favorite NFL team is the Rams. If i bought a stadium in Little Rock they would be the Arkansas Rams. Finally, treating Battletech like 40k seems wrong to me. I dont agree with all of your conclusions but i see the effort you put in and i gotta respect that. Keep it up.
@lexington476
@lexington476 Жыл бұрын
The Grim Dark Narrator released a video on Jerome Blake today 🤔🤔🤔. Coincidence or conspiracy, I suspect conspiracy 🤫.
@haroldcarfrey4206
@haroldcarfrey4206 Жыл бұрын
An off-ramp for ComGuard could be the Prince's Men of House Davion (ex-ComGuardsmen who now support House Davion), the ELH (ex-SLDF Mercenaries), or the handful of ex-ComGuard mercenaries.
@jordanhampton7144
@jordanhampton7144 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd really like to see a third tech base arise built around the ComStar type stuff. Maybe dedicated to hyper-specialization or something. I admit though I only really have experience much with succession wars and clan invasion stuff. But everything I see was making the blakists into a really interesting third tech branch with the cybernetics and mysticism
@roguedexx938
@roguedexx938 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!COMSTAR is cool and mysterious one of my favorites in universe
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH 9 ай бұрын
Mine too!
@thorgeirnable
@thorgeirnable 8 ай бұрын
A big information superpower subtly influencing things is awesome. I never felt comstar was a convenient excuse for sly things happening, but instead usually well executed, mysterious and interesting background figure. I say background because thats their intention.
@Joric78
@Joric78 Жыл бұрын
I think Catalyst have to be aware of the continued popularity of the faction. I wonder how their level 2 box sets have sold? Seems strange to sell them so early in the new series with them relegated them to a "historic" setting (although obviously most of the minis have variants that aren't Comstar). For that matter, there's an interview with Randall Bills by The Boardgame Kaptain at Adepticon, where Randall said one of the yet unscheduled series of mechs he'd most like to do was the Celestials (although he didn't seem to think it'd be welcomed by fans). I have Comstar forces I play with myself (I mostly don't play past the Fedcom Civil War anyway), the only thing I don't like about the faction is that white is a bastard to paint well.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
Celestials would sell like mad. Especially if they became available to some Comguard / Wobbie factions, in the Ilclan era.
@shagakhan9442
@shagakhan9442 10 ай бұрын
Peace of Blake be with you all. The descendants of the 49th Shadow Division still hold the light of manking in their hearts and deeds. -Shagan Khaan Pezhetairoi of Eleusis Mercenary Company
@meining-mech4378
@meining-mech4378 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Even in a SCI-FI/Fantasy setting, it is unrealistic for a faction to die without some part of it surviving, especially considering how expansive the Inner Sphere/Periphery is lore wise. Commercially, it is just leaving money on the table. Not having a Blakist faction for WoB/Comstar/BLO players to go to is effectively turning that branch of the player base into pariahs.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I'd not say pariahs, but it's bad for keeping those people invested in the setting.
@psychkosys
@psychkosys Жыл бұрын
I found a piece of Blake! Look, here's another!
@DonaldWWitt
@DonaldWWitt Жыл бұрын
We'll make our own ComStar, with Muscle Nun Receptionist who are actually openly secret "Intelligence" Operatives!
@BigBatts
@BigBatts Жыл бұрын
As I finished this up, I can’t help but think catalyst deed down wants to get back to some form of clan v clan only universe
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I don't believe this is the case at this point.
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin Жыл бұрын
The absorption by the Republic of the Sphere always felt like a dam sham. Giving the RoS more intelligence pull and making them more white hats. ComStar should have been kept as a unique faction.
@TroySeward
@TroySeward Жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@Jayrrific
@Jayrrific Жыл бұрын
Jaguar fan that was reborn Fidelis But one of my biggest enjoyments of battletech is being given the rules to create and do just about anything I want the universe is so big and so many unknowns that cannon is just a guiding example and shows what is and what could be
@Nikotheos
@Nikotheos Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a new faction arise amongst the IS Clans who combine the Kerensky and Blake “gospels” to find the combined “truth” of some sort.
@danielgranda896
@danielgranda896 Жыл бұрын
I think that Comstar/Word of Blake was the center of SO many plots, for so long, the fact that they are gone does add realism to the Universe. The Smoke Jaguar Clan was Brutal, but they pale in comparison to what Word of Blake did to the inner sphere. Total eradication of the sect seems appropriate. When the Republic of the Sphere arrived it made sense that remainder of Comstar joined them. Having the Republic of the Sphere and Comstar would not have made much sense. Comstar failed and was replaced by the Republic. I believe one of the best elements of the Battletech Universe is you can play in any area now. House Davion and Mercenaries have always been my favorite factions. The Gray Death Legion was always my favorite “McGuyver” unit. The Black Widow Company, before anyone had even heard of the Clans. I firmly believe that like a Phoenix Comstar will rise again in a new form. But it had to be NEW and OLD. NOT, The Second Exodus…ComClans!
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I think wargames leaving an enormous number of people behind is probably not a great idea. :|
@danielgranda896
@danielgranda896 Жыл бұрын
@@BigRed40TECH I get it. I never knew that many people felt that strongly about Comstar, so you have educated me on that front. When I played the most, no one played Comstar, because you really couldn’t. They were just Machiavelli in all the main story novels. We had the Comstar Sourcebook, lots of my MW 2nd edition villains were born from that book. I distinctly remember when Tukayyid came out no one could find it. Even when we did finally get a copy I had to run the ComGuard mechs as my group all wanted to paste me as the Smoke Jaguars or Wolf. Def no disrespect intended to the displaced Comstar fans.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
@@danielgranda896 I was kinda stunned by the volume of support they get, it's really significant. It's pretty constant on the channel to the point where I had to bar their content from lore-videos for a while as that's all people voted for. Just even looking at what people are painting, Comguards are super-common when you look around. It's kinda wild.
@blackspade1
@blackspade1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, killing off Comstar was a terrible lore decision.
@simontucker6836
@simontucker6836 Жыл бұрын
Big red you the man yes it sucks for people that comstar died but you are right it might not be the end they could become a merc group but keep up the amazing videos
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I mean, I didn't say that. I don't expect them back at all tbh. But it'd be the right choice if they gave those players something.
@ChaosTicket
@ChaosTicket Жыл бұрын
The Comstar Reformation is a great example of the split between simple and complex concepts. Comstar as the Evil Nebulous "Spectre/SMERSH"-like organization that wants a perpetual war between the rest of the Inner Sphere is interesting, but they had little in terms of longterm goal. Just thinking about them they may be a copy of the Bene Gesserit from Frank Herbert's Dune novels. The Word of Blake splitting off with those same values and a non-complex Good Comstar remaining but being destroyed changes the Battletech universe from Gray Vs Gray to Black vs White. Battletech isnt about progress, but stagnation. I remember that the reason why the original 3025 era is because Players like the anachronism of having Davion Knights vs a Kuritan Samurai with German, Prussian, and China/North Korea as other factions. When there was progress with various reformations within the nations, new technology from the Helm Memory Core, and the Clan Invasion, many Players hate those developments. I suspect many people like Battletech 3025 because its like Warhammer 40,000. Who knows if any new factions can come out? That issue is always going to be about trying to get them to the point where they can survive against the Successor States. Comstar as a military faction couldnt survive. When they did become that by unveiling the ComGuard, Comstar itself died pretty quickly. ComStar as a Technological order could work, but Players wouldnt allow it because it would be like Introducing the Adeptus Mechanicus to become Tau weapon designers. Now nobody will allow new technology and mysterious organizations are long gone. Its War Vs War. Gone are any real complexities. Or in short I like Clans because they have cool technology. I like Comstar because of the mystery of their original goals. Most of the Clans are dead and ComStar cannot be revived without some 1000year plan.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
I explain why in video, in universe, it'd be simply to revive Comstar tbh.
@riukenavatar8625
@riukenavatar8625 Жыл бұрын
I'm just getting into Battletech, and had no idea Comstar wasn't a faction anymore. One of my top choices being gone is a bit of a turn off. I really want to run a King Crab (thank MW5 for that), and Comstar seemed a good home.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH Жыл бұрын
:\ Sorry dude.
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver Жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree! Comstar, even in a small amount, could be very interesting.
@daviddevault8700
@daviddevault8700 Жыл бұрын
Blessings of Blake upon you
@CarlosSanchez-th3vl
@CarlosSanchez-th3vl Жыл бұрын
I feel the same, they dont have to be as powerfull but can be a remanent of its former glory or more highly tech mercenary unit.
@daemonhunter100
@daemonhunter100 Жыл бұрын
This is why I like playing my own Mercenary faction. The business never dies.
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