+Auston David Johnson 👍👍👍🏀🏀🏀

BBALLBREAKDOWN Do a breakdown on why drose never gets foul calls

BBALLBREAKDOWN coach all these dislikes because of your mid video ads.

Why don't you do a breakdown showing the how the knicks defense collapsed from swapping Robin Lopez for an absolute non factor in the paint in Joakim Noah. Have a look at how the whole team has to over help unlike the year before. Or was Jose Calderon keeping us decent on defense the season before?

+Certified Finest lol, the ratio is 1000 to 73

Yinheero Yeah cause they had Phil teaching him if the old man would of brought a damn wheelchair & coached then maybe the results would of been different. If you needed advice on how to do something in life are you gunna ask your friend or you gunna ask the oldest person in the room who already went thru everything you went thru & is gunna explain to you the shortcuts so its easier for you.

So simple, yet so profound

Erik Lerström The point guard makes a pass, then goes to a corner. Any 5-year old child can do that, Derrick Rose responded to a reporter by calling the Triangle Offense, " just some random offense to me." The highest form of ignorance !!! 1.) Pass across the Top of Key= cut to ballside corner 2.) Pass to the wing= cut to ballside corner 3.) D.Rose did graduate from high school right ???

DeAndre Page 3) didnt he cheat on his sats or something?

Daniel Vargas yes he did fr

😂 the accuracy

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GodZingis Team triangle didn't work because they didn't put in the effort to make it work

Yea Rose and Melo are both way too used to having and offense playing primarily through them, they poorly recognize opportunity for hockey passes and really only know how to score. Unfortunately they're both are past their prime and can't be THAT guy anymore.

papelgiftware1 Melo can still be that that guy if Paul George is

GodZingis Team They both kill the Offensive Flow (intentionally), so you end up having to pass it back to them.

Hennything is possible what? Explain. Paul George is 5 years younger.

Kahlil Baker this video changed my perspective on Phil in New York. Melo don't have the smarts to run triangle.

Kahlil Baker it is hard to belive that professional players can not execute a so simple offencive play

Kahlil Baker they barely ran it and it was rose if anything

What's funny is that Rodman of all player's call out the Knicks players for not knowing how to run the triangle offense.

Rodman had insane ball IQ.

We need to let Melo bring his hoodie to MSG

Who df wants to play in a hoodie for 82 games...Melo gunna lose so much weight wearing that shit that's his gunna look like Kp when he first got drafted 0---'‚--‹

*without

Sebastian Martinez but he's gonna bring 82 wins

dutty rodriguez what's this joke about a hoodie

+Johnny Blade good point and even still they were getting good looks!!

BBALLBREAKDOWN Doesn't that contradict the points in this video. If the never had the right players to use the triangle why not just try something different. Either way you can still blame Phil for this.

Yep he brought in all these players. He traded for Rose sacrificing Robin Lopez a solid starter on a team friendly contract. He then brings in a broken down Noah who can't shoot in a spread the floor league. No matter what Jackson was out of touch. The only good thing he did was not trade away draft picks

Nets 4life Delete Carmelo Anthony and Derrick Rose, then the 2nd Unit actually ran a decent Triangle Offense.

Golden states warriors bandwagon Destroyer they were decent from 2011-2014

falconsfan1020 yeah no. 2011 got swept in the first round, 2012 lost in 5 in the first round, 2013 got upset by the Pacers after claiming "the Knicks were back" for like the 100th time since Ewing and 2014 they missed the playoffs entirely with basically the same core as the year before.

darkinferno1219 i don't think you understand what decent means

To be fair, they were pretty relevant in 2012-2013.

falconsfan1020 you clearly don't know know the definition of decent.

Ben Twilleager Total B.S, Hornacek lost to Michael Jordan plenty of times. You had to know the Triangle Offense principles to play defense against it.

Ben Twilleager This was not Carmelo Anthony's 1st season in Triangle Offense, it was his 2nd year. Is Melo mentally challenged ???

Tru. It's evident in the players standing around. They look clueless.

@@simpleysims Triangle offense is for high IQ players, period. It's not a complicated system, but making the proper reads, decisions and movements takes high IQ players, and an extremely high IQ #1 option, so it is no mistake that only Kobe and Michael were able to have team success running it, but also all of the players on both those teams were high IQ, and I mean all, from top to bottom.

U really think Jeff doesn’t understand the triangle?

These players esp Rose and Melo are straight trash

Certified Finest Yet they both averaged good numbers last year

Random Wyvern Yet look at the Knicks record when they did average "good numbers". Or take a look at their dismal adv stats when putting up some "good numbers".

Nathan V Melo's numbers are not that far from his career avg. You can't blame the Knicks record on Melo, back when he had good teammates, he was always in the playoffs.

There is a time and place for 33 year old Melo in the NBA, it's replacing J.R. Smith as a catch and shoot player. Let me repeat, catch and "immediately" shoot player.

Michael Pang my guess is it's to make the offense less predictable. It's like in poker, sometimes you bluff or make an unusual move to keep the opponents guessing

Michael Pang what's your thoughts on this?

+Certified Finest the whole point of pure triangle is that it isn't predicable

+Michael Pang I did a breakdown on their offense right after Kerr took over. I'll do another soon

How many rings did they win without the triangle. Answer = 1

Kobe, Jordan, and Shaq gave Phil 11 rings

Rolando Robles THIS

+Rolando Robles BINGO

Rolando Robles yeah they use elements of it. Doesn't mean it's heir main philosophy. I don't see your point

He said that in the video lol

The problem is you need the right coach you need to be scare of him to the point that you respect him. That's where Phil truly failed if you ain't Gunna run it then u need a coach who's gonna be on your ass where you do everything right so you don't have to hear him talk

+jordan IV thanks! And the key is that the triangle isn't for the stars, it's for the role players. The stars will get their points regardless. But to win in the playoffs, you need the other guys to contribute

Agree. The beauty of the triangle is that it allow great flexiblity. It maximize strength and reduce the flaws of the offensive team running it.

Geoffrey Mak Lin rooted out himself for sucking so bad after 2 special weeks

Geoffrey Mak How was Melo a cancer to the Knicks when he's been nothing but loyal to the team. Phil Jackson was the cancer

+Nicolas Vega BINGO! 👍🏀💪

Yea bro I don’t feel bad that he was outta the league until he changed to fit his role. I used to hate hearing comparisons to bron cause it’s a different level of iq completely. Offense defense and in the film room. Just always felt he was overrated

+Pancake Protector 4 every possession of those 5 games. It was rough

BBALLBREAKDOWN I can imagine haha thanks for doing that this was a good video 🙂🙂

BBALLBREAKDOWN Melo and rose are trash

+chun hau Ngai 💪🏀👍

The team would have won

Melo would be in the backcourt cause he like to play slow and stop the movement..... Rose wasn't even trying to cut in the triangle with so many open spots open.

+george wright thanks!!

vino mamba the players Phil chose and Phil put the system there

OG Jawdinz yes, but you can see it in the plays, they dont pay attention to small details, compare it to the great laker team back then, you can see the difference, not that the knicks could have won championships but they could have been better, just my opinion.

+strikedizzle 👍🏀💪

+DubbleD awesome, thanks! Check the pod, I think you'll like it too! 👍🏀

Def will! Will you be offering the same Knicks premium service game break downs you did last season?

+Skilliams I'm not even sure I liked Jennings in the offense either. Two of the worst choices to run it in Rose and Jennings

+Plague Doc well, 95% of the comments love the ads when they're seamlessly integrated into the video. It was when I put them in the front of the video that made people so upset. Check when we started doing this in March. HUGE surge

I definitely disagree with this. I don't know too many people who stop watching channels altogether because of ads. Ads are just a part of youtube. It's not that serious.

Coach Nick does a lot of analysis that requires watching hundreds of plays and games just to prove or point out something so I don't really mind as he deserves every single cent he gets from those ads. This channel is not as easy as just hydraulic pressing every thing you can think of.

Plague Doc+ I don't mind the relatively small youtubers with good content trying to sustain themselves with in video product placements.

I agree Bad and Wrong I love the product, I'm talking about the average youtuber viewer. The reason the internet has taken over TV is the ads. Ads on TV are stupidly long and frequent. Most people want ot watch the product from start to finish without ads interrupting thats why I think ads in the start and at the end are the best.

tayottt because most of the time, teams don't commit to running the sets correctly. You see it in the game film. Guys clearly don't have knowledge of the sets, are out of position or just don't care enough to make it work

+tayottt I appreciate your comments but the fact is the triangle would most certainly work if a team fully committed to it and properly taught it. When I ran it on my team, we got TONS of 3s. The only reason why some of these Knicks teams didn't take a lot was because they didn't have a lot of players who were comfortable shooting the 3. You get every action hat exists in the other offenses u mentioned by running the triangle. While it helps to have gifted passers, if u teach it correctly, you can create good passers 💪🏀👍

Will u believe me if i say warriors and spurs do triangle offense too? Well they do. The knicks players are just too stubborn to believe or to do it

BBALLBREAKDOWN I respectfully disagree for a number of reasons. For one, you presume that the triangle is the mother of all offenses. It just isn't. Cutting, spacing, screening, etc. all existed prior to the triangle. As a blanket statement, having skilled players that can shoot threes helps any offense, however, when the offense is largely predicated on having post scorers it's not going to be as efficient in our modern NBA.The triangle also has to develop. Every independent movement in the offensive scheme isn't dangerous. There is a reason why even the best triangle teams had issues with the offense becoming robotic at times. The Shaq Lakers became a PnR team at the end of games largely because defenses could sniff out what they were trying to do and Jordan's Bulls went to isos often in crunch time moments. Beyond that, rule changes make it untenable to be a post player primarily, unless you are one of the few genius level scorers/passes that are transformational in any scheme. Teams like the Spurs and Celtics have offenses that are dangerous at every step. Every cut, screen, dribble, and pass is designed to disorient the defense and get the best shots (threes/layups). Those offenses are also more intuitive for the personnel. It's not just that Stevens/Pop are great coaches. The concepts behind their offense aren't hard to teach role players and the concepts empower guys like Duncan/Horford because they posses the necessary skills anyway. The Spurs got Dedmon a lot of money because they know how to leverage his skill set. In the triangle he is largely useless because he doesn't reroute defenders very well on screens, can't pass, and can't shoot. However, when he can slip PNRs, get dump offs, and do the dirty work he's fine. Triangle concepts don't bend well to a lot of modern NBA players. Trying to say that the triangle fails because players aren't smart enough is just making excuses. Precisely because the triangle requires all these skilled players and is so inflexible is why the full triangle has died. A good coach will bend his system to the talent. Not vice versa. As I said, parts of it are effective, but it's a joke to say it's one of the best half-court offenses. And I say this as a Knick fan who has actually taken time to study the triangle offense. I even like watching it when it works, but I can see why players like Rose or PORZINGIS struggle with it. I can guarantee that barring a significant rule change, full triangle will never win in this league again.

Swaggy Nigga please read my comment. I'm not questioning that elements of it work. I just don't think it's viable as the full offense and I hate how Nick tries to act like the triangle is the father of all successful NBA actions. It's not.

Jason Young What make you think they didn't teach it properly what if the players just didn't listen? How can bench players run it successfully but the stars can't?

Or it could just be the coaching staff sucked and was forced to do it by Phil who explained things horribly. half the time when Melo toed the paint on the wing it was a designed play for him to BE there.