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BBC Gearing Up For TV Licence Fee Battle?

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ChilliJonCarne

ChilliJonCarne

7 ай бұрын

Is the bbc gearing up for a bit tv licence fee battle in 2024 after ‘a year of turmoil’? Well let’s have a look and a good old rant at this shall we
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@SpareSomeChange8080
@SpareSomeChange8080 7 ай бұрын
Their arrogance just angers me, the BBC actually think they're above competing with other TV companies and think that they shouldn't have too!
@englishciderlover7347
@englishciderlover7347 7 ай бұрын
I suspect part of the reason is that they don't think they're capable of surviving if they have to use the same funding model as any other broadcaster.
@timg1246
@timg1246 7 ай бұрын
​@@englishciderlover7347They are right.
@walterxplinge3867
@walterxplinge3867 7 ай бұрын
And the problem is they are right, they don't have to compete. It doesn't matter whether Gary Lineker or Doug from down the pub presents Match of the Day, the BBC still get £3.5 billion .So, why do they insist they have to pay to get the "talent" to present the programmes when it doesn't matter. If the programme is good, people will watch, but it doesn't have to draw the audiences. Independent TV do have to produce high quality programming as their income depends on it; no viewers equals no advertisers equals no money. The BBC don't have that requirement, they could produce 5 channels of absolute garbage 24 hours a day 7 days a week, and would still get paid. In fact, if you want to watch ANY live TV on any channel, and never watch any BBC output, you still have to pay the BBC. That is iniquitous.
@_Uh_Oh_
@_Uh_Oh_ 7 ай бұрын
@@walterxplinge3867 Exactly and look at how many people WANT to be on TV. There is just absolutely zero excuse for the utter waste of money throwing it all about like confetti cause they didn't even have to earn it. If they are not made to become a subscription service, then they should be MADE to have capped incomes with the highest being about £100K or lower. If people then all disappear to Sky or ITV then good riddance, if the shows are good people will still watch BBC anyway. Just rampant corruption & greed every single place you look in the modern day world
@robbeales5516
@robbeales5516 7 ай бұрын
@@walterxplinge3867 when jug lugs was suspended more people tuned into match of the day than usual 😊. This in my opinion makes him utterly superfluous 😊
@steviethompson1746
@steviethompson1746 7 ай бұрын
Defund the BBC cancel your direct debits.
@dorothyhunter9311
@dorothyhunter9311 5 ай бұрын
Everyone cancel your TV licence if we all do it together. What can they do. Nowt
@neilgoodall1768
@neilgoodall1768 7 ай бұрын
The BBC needs to move with the times and be financially independent via a subscription service, no shitty letters just because you choose not to watch their content
@Futura2500
@Futura2500 7 ай бұрын
council tax imo
@emmahowells8334
@emmahowells8334 7 ай бұрын
Whether it's a subscription or licence, still is a fee to watch, there should be adverts on there like other stations do pay for the station to conduct their business.
@anonnemo2504
@anonnemo2504 7 ай бұрын
In saying that subscription alone will not adequately fund the current range of BBC programming, it seems that this panel investigating how the BBC should be funded in the future is already ruling it out. It seems their report will conclude that, either the licence fee stays, or the BBC is funded through general taxation.
@MrDupacz
@MrDupacz 7 ай бұрын
goverment will never let go their propaganda tube
@jackiehamilton2738
@jackiehamilton2738 7 ай бұрын
​@@anonnemo2504If it is added to general taxation, then that is a WORSE situation than the existing farago. At least at PRESENT, it is possible to opt out of payment by legal means. What are the odds of a general taxation model allowing any sort of opt-out AT ALL? That's right, very little. These creeps will try to ensure that the current loss of revenue is prevented in future.
@pjcnet
@pjcnet 7 ай бұрын
Don't just remove the licence fee, defund the BBC.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
You remove the fee yourself. I don't pay it
@cerij4242
@cerij4242 7 ай бұрын
Yes make them earn their money like all other channels.
@pjcnet
@pjcnet 7 ай бұрын
@@MikeEves We don't want to lose the right of at least being able to choose. If it's added as a media tax then you won't be-able to use a broadband service at all without paying the BBC. If it's added to council tax which I think is more likely, then you'll have the full might of enforcement and bailiffs if you don't pay, if you're on benefits it will ultimately just get removed anyway or via an attachment to earnings. The other nasty option is a media licence which means you'd be breaking their new law if you watched anything on demand or KZfaq or even downloaded a movie to watch, this would make enforcement very easy for Capita since virtually every household would need one and they'd probably get access to ISP information. Just defunding the BBC forcing them to compete isn't something I believe the government is truly considering.
@Caesar-3el
@Caesar-3el 7 ай бұрын
Let them stand alone .......and fall on their own
@charlieyerrell9146
@charlieyerrell9146 7 ай бұрын
Do not just defund the bbc stop paying for the BBC licence. The bbc is antibritish. It is now time to sell it off.
@paulmorris5166
@paulmorris5166 7 ай бұрын
Way back in time, the BBC turned out some good documentaries and comedy shows. If they had not gone to live in cloud cuckoo land and started showing shite then people like me would not have cancelled our licence tax.
@domfjbrown75
@domfjbrown75 7 ай бұрын
Go woke go broke
@James-cs2wi
@James-cs2wi 7 ай бұрын
Exactly❤
@kopwolfGaming
@kopwolfGaming 7 ай бұрын
but at what cost. why would you even semi defend them.. back in the day.. hope you havnt got kids pal
@jimmycampbell78
@jimmycampbell78 7 ай бұрын
They’ve always been the ‘unofficial’ state broadcaster. Cue some 77th Brigade types turning up on this thread to patronise and lecture me that its not written in the official charter. Bog off, before you even turn up.
@johnholmes5674
@johnholmes5674 7 ай бұрын
@@kopwolfGamingI bet you never paid for a tv licence, ever.
@mollymouse4900
@mollymouse4900 7 ай бұрын
The whole lot should go, the British Bashing Corporation and the licence fee ! Get rid of the whole shebang !
@sasquatch2732
@sasquatch2732 7 ай бұрын
Shebang!! One of my favourite words! 😁👍
@nelliejames
@nelliejames 7 ай бұрын
cannot believe they even want to charge for the shite they put on christmas
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 7 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you’re surprised.😂
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
They've never charged me....
@nelliejames
@nelliejames 7 ай бұрын
well yeah lol@@mygreatbigfoot1679
@martinbobfrank
@martinbobfrank 7 ай бұрын
I've not watched the BBC for over five years, apart from KZfaq clips of old stuff, so I don't know what I've missed but it sounds like rubbish.
@infrasleep
@infrasleep 7 ай бұрын
Mrs Brown's Boys !! That's worth not paying the licence fee alone XD
@gwheregwhizz
@gwheregwhizz 7 ай бұрын
The BBC Board (all 13 of them) must have the most scratched backs in the global media.
@englishciderlover7347
@englishciderlover7347 7 ай бұрын
They could lose at least 8 of those people without any further drop in the quality of programming. Losing a few regiments from the BBC 's army of managers and pen-pushers across the corporation would also improve things.
@Seafarer1947
@Seafarer1947 7 ай бұрын
BBC is funded by the EU
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 7 ай бұрын
@@englishciderlover7347 You should see how much the senior people (talking managers, directors, producers, etc), get paid AND how much gets paid into their pension pots - *_and all paid out of the licence fee_* *More gets paid into these kind of things out of the licence fee than put towards programming.*
@BoadiceanTruth
@BoadiceanTruth 5 ай бұрын
And arses! 😢😂
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 7 ай бұрын
Every time I get a letter I file a complaint with my local police force and demand they give me a crime number. I tell the police I've received a letter demanding money with menaces and someone has threatened to send somebody round to my house to frighten me into paying money. The police are really keen to do something until I say it's from BBC licencing but I insist on a crime number!
@BoadiceanTruth
@BoadiceanTruth 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 excellent 👌
@peterdurnien9084
@peterdurnien9084 7 ай бұрын
My mates kids have all ditched the TV licence and have gone the Netflix route, I suspect all new TV watchers will go the Netflix watch.
@andrewjames9996
@andrewjames9996 7 ай бұрын
@@greyfriars6540 TV is dead.
@pontiouspilotman
@pontiouspilotman 7 ай бұрын
At a friend’s house on Christmas Day, Dads Army followed Morecambe and Wise both from around 1971! Absolutely disgusting they have the cheek to continue to receive licence payers money when many do not watch the crap they put out as programming!
@bertiesworld
@bertiesworld 7 ай бұрын
What did you expect? The BBC is living in a time warp when it comes to funding through the licence, so you should expect programmes from that era. I really cannot see why it isn't like so many other models. Pay per view. And if its popular, it'll thrive. If not, well much like any other failed business, it'll close. For what its worth, KZfaq gets watched nearly a 1000% more than the BBC is ever and that is only because the BBC is the default start up channel on the TV. I and the rest of the family wouldn't miss it.
@michaelnagy298
@michaelnagy298 7 ай бұрын
People just don't want the BBC anymore
@alankennedy3747
@alankennedy3747 7 ай бұрын
I'm in Ireland. We hate our broadcaster RTE as much, if not more than you hate BBC. We need a TV licence by simply owning a TV. I've no licence and when a goon knocked on my door 3 years ago I pretended I had tourettes and called him a ****. Hasn't come back since.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 7 ай бұрын
😂😂 Nice touch with the sudden onset Tourettes.
@alankennedy3747
@alankennedy3747 7 ай бұрын
@@ferrumignis Yes, it was a sudden onset. Hasn't happened since, thank God...,😊
@BoadiceanTruth
@BoadiceanTruth 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Truly Excellent!👍🇨🇮🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@RobinDunkley
@RobinDunkley 7 ай бұрын
Great info from you, cancelled mine today, can’t justify paying it anymore, have detuned all my TV’s 2 weeks ago and realised I don’t need live tv anymore, keep up the good work
@auldflyer
@auldflyer 7 ай бұрын
Good old jug ears (Lineaker) gave me the impetus to stop paying for a TV licence and give up watching "live tv" forever.
@sirstanleygristle4961
@sirstanleygristle4961 7 ай бұрын
Emily MakePiss convinced me, couldn't bear the woman.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
I know what you mean.
@scottwood8826
@scottwood8826 7 ай бұрын
The BBC can jog on. I have no intention of paying for the licence again. Please do a pdf or something that I can print that’s simple for people to understand that I can hand out
@ChilliJonCarne
@ChilliJonCarne 7 ай бұрын
good idea
@innitandting
@innitandting 7 ай бұрын
@@ChilliJonCarne Get a few KZfaqrs like BBB, We got a problem etc involved, you could destroy the beeb if people have a one size fits all riposte to their BS
@andreashaynes3346
@andreashaynes3346 7 ай бұрын
Jobs for the boys, Jon. The BBC have long ago lost the confidence of the nation. Defund the BBC and force them to fund themselves through advertising. Many thanks for sharing with us Jon 👍👍👍
@dps8435
@dps8435 7 ай бұрын
Imagine how much court time would be freed up if these scumbags stopped prosecuting vulnerable women.....predators, like Harris ,hall and saville.
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 7 ай бұрын
Not protecting the BBC here, but you don’t get imprisoned for non-payment of the TV licence. *You get imprisoned for the non-payment of the fine.* The Magistrates Courts couldn’t give a monkeys uncle if you don’t have a licence, but they do care if you don’t pay the fine - they have to because it’s written into law.
@dps8435
@dps8435 7 ай бұрын
@@enkisdaughter4795 I know that and it is pertinent,but it still doesn't take away from the fact that those cases are still in the court system in the first place,and it is obvious to everyone except politicians who clearly see the BBC as a useful tool for whoever is in power hold the general public in utter contempt.
@MrMarcusWWW
@MrMarcusWWW 7 ай бұрын
A legal case for the harassment of TV licensing should get funded. Just look at them if it said something other than TV Licensing at the top there would be uproar. If they were sent from an individual they would get a visit from the police due to harassment
@Holycurative9610
@Holycurative9610 7 ай бұрын
Every time I get a letter I file a complaint with my local police force and demand they give me a crime number. I tell the police I've received a letter demanding money with menaces and someone has threatened to send somebody round to my house to frighten me into paying money. The police are really keen to do something until I say it's from BBC licencing but I insist on a crime number!
@Mel-mu8ox
@Mel-mu8ox 7 ай бұрын
BBC make out that low budget shows wouldn't get made without them... This was true at one time... But Netflix started taking on shows/films people believed not to be worth making, and now all streaming services are fighting over low budget shows/films... ... So why do the BBC still think their innovators ?
@edwardbloor8080
@edwardbloor8080 7 ай бұрын
If the goverment had any backbone they would scrap the license fee
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
You scrap it yourself. There is no requirement to pay it
@jackiehamilton2738
@jackiehamilton2738 7 ай бұрын
Licence.
@djburland
@djburland 7 ай бұрын
The BBC prosecution of so many people for failing to have a license is obscene
@andrewmolloy5095
@andrewmolloy5095 7 ай бұрын
They'll never get a "licence" out of me.. I remember them turning up in 2010 when I was 18 about 8 o clock at night and I told him to "fuck off" I'm now 31 not had a "visit" since because they'd get the same response.
@madcapjourneys9014
@madcapjourneys9014 7 ай бұрын
Will not pay a telly tax would sale my house and move to my narrowboat don't pay tv licence or council tax from my boat
@Isclachau
@Isclachau 7 ай бұрын
Millions don’t pay. Sorry to break it to you bud 😂😊
@nelliejames
@nelliejames 7 ай бұрын
just tell em nothing, dont engage with em, i get one letter every four or five weeks, i cant tell u what's in em as they go straight in the bin
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 7 ай бұрын
Dont have a connected tv like many of us, So no worries
@biscuitheque79
@biscuitheque79 7 ай бұрын
Hi Jon,I got rid of my TV around 8 years ago, for various reasons; i.e. I don't like paying wages to sex offenders, perverts, narcissists and ego-maniacs or more recently, BBC newsreaders who flip the bird at viewers. I got a stack of harassing letters, all slightly different and in creative colouring promising me a visit from a jobsworth. I made sure to have plenty of teabags and biscuits in stock because I was looking forward to a chat, not having a TV means I thrive on connection with other people from all walks of life, even the mentally challenged. I spoke to a Licensing representative over the phone a few years ago, he was so interested in my life I was astonished. He wanted to know what I do with my evenings as I don't have an idiot box. I told him all about my hobbies and he got a bit bored. Maybe he should get a job he enjoys? Every year I have to ring them up and say I don't have a TV. But it's a bit easier now as it's multiple choice and you don't have to speak to anyone. I encourage anyone who reads this to get rid of your TV and start enjoying your life instead. All the best for the new year.
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 7 ай бұрын
But I’m stuck on KZfaq now.🤖
@mariaridler1831
@mariaridler1831 7 ай бұрын
@@mygreatbigfoot1679me too 😅
@diggerdrum
@diggerdrum 7 ай бұрын
Yourube...amazon prime, Netflix... who needs the BBC? Lol Not me anyway that's for sure 👍
@ph8077
@ph8077 7 ай бұрын
You don't have to get rid of your TV...all on demand, non-live TV, on Netflix, Prime, YT etc are all fine to watch without a TV licence. .
@martinbobfrank
@martinbobfrank 7 ай бұрын
I also got rid of my main TV about five years or so ago; can't remember exactly when now. That's why I now have time to read through some of the replies. Maybe you should have your own channel, not on live TV as I couldn't watch it, but your own KZfaq with stuff you do read or how you spend your time.
@kerrymcgeachy3571
@kerrymcgeachy3571 7 ай бұрын
They should pay us for watching the crap our take it of people's tvs
@diggerdrum
@diggerdrum 7 ай бұрын
I was always a licence fee payer and enjoyed paying for something I wanted to watch, but I watch KZfaq, amazon prime, Netflix and rarely watch normal channels like BBC or other terrestrial channels, so 2023 was first year ever I never renewed my licence as I don't see the point to pay for something I don't watch, and I like watching sport like snooker etc, but I don't have to watch live coverage, I can catch up later...makes no odds lol. But I don't see how £159 is money well spent... its not in my book. Nice upload mate... hopefully someone from the BBC sees your channel and passes the word round and see how much everyone is united in not paying for a bloody TV licence.
@nascar0509
@nascar0509 7 ай бұрын
They are desperate to preserve themselves and their pockets lined with gold.
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 7 ай бұрын
I've had no TV since 2009. No licence, no TV, no satellite or cable or subscriptions; I've got no interest whatsoever in the BBC or ITV or Sky or any other broadcaster. I haven't seen a news bulletin or a newspaper for almost twenty years. I don't care what's going on in the world; I withdrew from the whole sorry, miserable mess and haven't missed it one little bit. I don't even have a mobile phone. I live very simply in West Yorkshire on a tiny income of around £1,000 [yes, that's one-thousand quid] per year. I haven't minded filling in the 'no TV licence required' declaration form every few years as requested. The Licence Fee department hasn't bothered me; I've had no threats or angry letters or visits or investigations. Meanwhile, I have hobbies. I build things. I grow veggies. I read books. I write. I paint. I'm a musician (of sorts) and compose, record and produce at home (it's done through headphones, so my neighbours don't hear a thing). I don't watch live TV, at all. I watch KZfaq videos on a cheapo tablet. If the traditional TV licence fee is abolished, there is absolutely no way that I'll be forced into paying any kind of blanket 'media tax', however they try to hide and impose it. I will not support a TV network that has nothing to do with me. Likewise, I won't be paying my neighbour's car insurance, nor shall I buy a fishing licence for the friendly but slightly bonkers carp fanatic who lives across the road. If there's any attempt to sneak a media component onto the Council Tax, I'll cancel my Direct Debit and go back to paying by cheque so that I can remove the media element and only pay the rest. I loathe what the BBC has become and want nothing more to do with it. Auntie Beeb won't get another penny out of me, ever. Like a lot of people, I've been pushed around quite a bit in life; taking control 15 years ago was the best thing I've ever done. Anyone who thinks I'll meekly pay for something that I don't want and don't like and don't use is going to have a very messy fight on their hands.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
Spot on
@BoadiceanTruth
@BoadiceanTruth 5 ай бұрын
OMG! I LOVE YOU! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇨🇮👍👌🙋😃
@jimbone9742
@jimbone9742 7 ай бұрын
the government will put the licence fee on our poll tax.😢
@marylauder3374
@marylauder3374 7 ай бұрын
If that happens I will be deducting it. Fed up with paying for others!
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
I won't be paying it. I'll deduct it, simple
@timg1246
@timg1246 7 ай бұрын
I too would not pay if it were done that way. Which is why it almost certainly won't happen. Income tax is far more likely. Or a broadband tax, which will make the new tech pay for the old tech. Great idea, eh.
@shaunbrennan5882
@shaunbrennan5882 7 ай бұрын
A friend if mine worked as a "detector van" driver years ago. He told me the van was virtually empty. They just choose random houses knowing chances are you'll have a telly. That was in the 80s. I've never had a TV license and I'm in my 50s. Stuff them.
@michaelc318
@michaelc318 7 ай бұрын
The bbc should be a subscription channel then we can pay if we won't to watch or not and scrap the TV licence
@robertbroadbent3038
@robertbroadbent3038 7 ай бұрын
£3.8 BILLION a year to show strictly come dancing and MOTD Gary Linekar is a 100% TWUNT. I stopped paying my license months ago.
@hideteak9098
@hideteak9098 7 ай бұрын
I love that your spellchecker recognises contemporary opinions and language trends and allows that T-word as valid. 😁
@petercaseley5995
@petercaseley5995 7 ай бұрын
We need an inquiry into this, costing many £100s of millions of pounds, taking 10 years to complete and nothing useful coming out. 🙄🥴
@davidmonkman1767
@davidmonkman1767 7 ай бұрын
Hi Jon I've just cancelled my tv licence because I literally only watch KZfaq thank you very much for enlightening me. Ps love your channel.
@lesblack8996
@lesblack8996 7 ай бұрын
The Andrew Sachs call wasn’t actually live, it was prerecorded. The BBC *chose* to broadcast even though they could’ve edited it out. It was Rossy that mentioned the ‘S’ word, Brand took the hit.
@timg1246
@timg1246 7 ай бұрын
That is true. Ross was pushing Brand to do it.
@samhobbs9116
@samhobbs9116 7 ай бұрын
Facts
@johnm2051
@johnm2051 7 ай бұрын
The BBC can gear up all they want but I won’t be paying for that shite the BBC,itv , channel 4 and 5 spew out 99% of the time 😡
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Well said.
@Displays.1234.
@Displays.1234. 7 ай бұрын
Nobody should be paying a licence fee, to the BBC Just make them advertise simple.... People don't need the BBC...
@jmillsey
@jmillsey 7 ай бұрын
It should go a subscription service, but they know it would collapse.
@smike9884
@smike9884 7 ай бұрын
If they digitised their entire archive it could be quite lucrative.
@cerij4242
@cerij4242 7 ай бұрын
It's gone from Auntie Beeb to Dodgy Pervy Bloke who peeps through curtains Beeb.
@JASON-rq5gl
@JASON-rq5gl 7 ай бұрын
I wish someone with money would send letters out to every house hold explaining the rules, law and why you don't need a licence, because there's still people out there who are unaware and are just paying out of fear. As a postman im delivering hundreds & hundreds of threatening TV licence letters every month on my round and all my colleagues are noticing the number of TV licence letters are going up. We are sick to death of delivering them and don't want to deliver them but unfortunately we have no choice, but if someone was to send thousands of letters out explaining how not to pay it and why you don't have to pay it then I will gladly deliver these letters just to get the message across to people.
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 7 ай бұрын
Nice to see the BBC cares so much about the planet to waste countless trees on this nonsense.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
How do you know that they are threatening letters ?
@JASON-rq5gl
@JASON-rq5gl 7 ай бұрын
@@simonlevett4776 if you have a TV licence simonlevett then you will obviously not have received one.
@walterxplinge3867
@walterxplinge3867 7 ай бұрын
The problem with the argument about radio suffering first if the licence fee is scrapped is that you don't need a licence to listen to the radio.
@andymoore9977
@andymoore9977 7 ай бұрын
Ok, but without a fragmented BBC local radio offering then commercial stations could step in to fill the gap.
@gmo4250
@gmo4250 7 ай бұрын
It's true that you don't need a licence, but BBC radio is mainly funded by the licence fee.
@RicStorm616
@RicStorm616 7 ай бұрын
​@@gmo4250but how is that the publics problem when the TV Licence pays for something that's free, as nobody requires a licence to listen to radio, that's a seperate issue and nothing to do with a TV Licence, that's the BBCs fault for siphoning off money to their radio services instead of finding an alternative way of funding it. If they switched to a subscription service they can do whatever they like with the money.
@gmo4250
@gmo4250 7 ай бұрын
@@RicStorm616 I never said it was the public's problem. I just pointed out how the TV Licence impacts BBC radio. I don't really have a strong opinion on BBC local radio.
@ianlewis2813
@ianlewis2813 7 ай бұрын
If you don't watch BBC cancel it online, it's easy. 5,000 HOUSES cancel their tv license every week.
@jackiehamilton2738
@jackiehamilton2738 7 ай бұрын
Licence.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Thank you teacher.@@jackiehamilton2738
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
You cancel by not paying. Easier
@nonoyorbusness
@nonoyorbusness 7 ай бұрын
Gary needs to leave by a window of opportunity, 🏢 !
@matthewmallan1995
@matthewmallan1995 7 ай бұрын
Stop watching it then. I did 8 years ago. They never bother me. Sheesh... 😡
@timg1246
@timg1246 7 ай бұрын
You seem happy to accept that they can bother people in their homes, and also legally stop you watching their competition if we do not pay them. Sheesh.
@matthewmallan1995
@matthewmallan1995 7 ай бұрын
@@timg1246 I'm disgusted that they still exist in any form and that they do is certainly not my fault, what they do is down to the fact that despite JIMMY FUCKING SAVILLE! and on and on etc people keep watching their shit and paying the licence. No sympathy? Damn right.
@Bobby-st5dg
@Bobby-st5dg 7 ай бұрын
cancel the licence defund the government propaganda arm.
@TreVader1378
@TreVader1378 7 ай бұрын
If you make the mistake of letting the goons in, if they see iPlayer installed they do you for watching it, even if you haven't, I'm sure they've been told to do that, even though it's already installed on every streaming hardware and TV's, despicable practice.
@mrsb3650
@mrsb3650 7 ай бұрын
Iplayer is installed as standard on smart TVs so you can't be done for having the app. They would have to prove you'd signed into iplayer with login credentials and had watched it without a licence.
@mirandaokon
@mirandaokon 7 ай бұрын
Show them that you have not signed in😊
@TreVader1378
@TreVader1378 7 ай бұрын
@@mirandaokon I did, he said he'd put it down on his iPad or whatever, then got done for watching EastEnders, I've never seen a single episode of that shite, nor would I want to, went to court told them the guy lied, but they believed him, and fined me £250.
@_Uh_Oh_
@_Uh_Oh_ 7 ай бұрын
@@TreVader1378 this is more reason to never ever let them in your House and hopefully your story can help others in the future.
@ProffAndy
@ProffAndy 7 ай бұрын
​@@TreVader1378If true, that's absolutely outrageous. There's no way I'm letting an "Enforcement Officer" into my home unless there's a warrant and police officer present. Even then I'll video the proceeding to prove that my TV doesn't have an aerial connection or iPlayer account setup.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 7 ай бұрын
Brand and Ross should've been prosecuted, under the Malicious Communications Act, over that telephone call.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Brand is a weird sob.
@samhobbs9116
@samhobbs9116 7 ай бұрын
​@@simonlevett4776Brand is currently one of the only sources of unbiased unpropagandist news. Any bad he ever did pales in comparison to the good he has done in the last 5-10 years.
@georgejohnson1498
@georgejohnson1498 7 ай бұрын
I stopped my TV Licence in 2002, long before it was a discussion point. At the time I had to get my MP, Sir Micheal Spicer, to write to TV Licensing to stop them bullying me with threats. It worked and I think they regard me as being not requiring a TV Licence to this day. I love it when I visit friends who still have functioning live TV, and, if the BBC TV service no longer appealed to me twenty-one years ago, it simply horrifies me now! I still listen to Radio Three, but I accept that this old school service must be on borrowed time. Nowadays you can get all the music you want on the internet in any case. But I do enjoy R3 on VHF with a fully restored 1957 Leak tuner and Quad amp and speaker. [Amp from 1999 and speaker also from 1957]. What I particularly don't understand is why the Licence Fee should finance the BBC World Service, which is merely an arm of the UK government foreign office propaganda department, and nobody takes this seriously nowadays. The days of 1939 - 45, when people secretly listen to the BBC in Nazi occupied Europe are generations ago. I would stop the World Service tomorrow as funded. If the Foreign Office want to devote some of their propaganda money to continuing the service that would be an election issue to be decided in political manifesto policy commitments and elections. Democracy at work. Best wishes from George
@davidbrewster7701
@davidbrewster7701 7 ай бұрын
STOP WATCHING THEIR OUTPUT AND STOP PAYING THE FEE !!
@lulabellegnostic8402
@lulabellegnostic8402 7 ай бұрын
If you pay the licence fee, bear in mind you are financing the bbc’s defence of the bashir fraud.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Good point, i've just finished the Sedgwick book on BBC disinformation and lies. Bashir is a real scumbag. He should be in prison.
@ddhh5
@ddhh5 7 ай бұрын
Does anybody know how many deaths have been after visits by BBC enforcement officers?
@d3fenc367
@d3fenc367 7 ай бұрын
I know a bloke who says he's got two of the capita scumbags under his patio.
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Strange question.
@paulcollins3725
@paulcollins3725 7 ай бұрын
Jon, as usual, has nailed it with simple and straightforward analysis.
@waynekerrr9027
@waynekerrr9027 7 ай бұрын
I am licence free, and do not watch live TV, or iPlayer, however, If goons obtain a warrant to enter my premises, can I be prosecuted for the ability to watch live TV via channel 4 catchup, or live TV via my fire stick, which is possible, without TV aerial, but I do not do this..
@woodpigeon2862
@woodpigeon2862 7 ай бұрын
They have to have evidence to obtain a warrant
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 7 ай бұрын
I doubt that’ll apply when they have singled you/me out though. How many of these investigations are unsuccessful?
@mirandaokon
@mirandaokon 7 ай бұрын
Catch up tv is not ‘live!’
@waynekerrr9027
@waynekerrr9027 7 ай бұрын
​@@mirandaokonit is possible to watch live TV on channel 4 catchup
@mirandaokon
@mirandaokon 7 ай бұрын
@@waynekerrr9027 Thank you, Wayne.
@peterwhitear7716
@peterwhitear7716 7 ай бұрын
just shut it down it is past it's sale by date and has been for years
@TeriWilde
@TeriWilde 7 ай бұрын
I hope they keep the TV licence.... them that want to pay it, can keep paying it.... I'd hate for it to be abolished, and then I'd have to pay it via a stealth media levy when I haven't paid it for over 15 years.
@harveyneedleman817
@harveyneedleman817 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you Teri. I have never paid the licence fee. I have no intention of ever paying it. My values don't align with the bbc. They have brushed too many scandals under the carpet such as Saville , Harris , Hall, etc. They waste money extravagantly on ridiculous programmes and salaries, I don't buy their political posturing either. My tv works perfectly well without a licence. Defund the bbc.
@trubritain
@trubritain 7 ай бұрын
If the BBC moved to a subscription based model their revenue would increase considerably because their market would be global And not just UK. If they chucked in adverts aswell they would be absolutely raking it in. This would more than make up for the abolition of the extremely unfair and immoral licence fee. AKA the telly tax.
@englishciderlover7347
@englishciderlover7347 7 ай бұрын
As well, not 'aswell'.
@GeoffDunn
@GeoffDunn 7 ай бұрын
Also, they would not need to spend money on Capita / TV Licensing goons.
@simontillson482
@simontillson482 7 ай бұрын
As far as the rest of the world goes, the BBC is already raking in billions every year. In other countries, their content is sold for a pretty high fee. Google “BBC Studios”. The irony is that we’re paying them to make content for the UK, and they’re earning loads by selling it abroad to make even more money. The very idea that the BBC even needs the license fee is a joke.
@stephenbennett7245
@stephenbennett7245 7 ай бұрын
to be honest i wouldnt care if bbc didnt exist now its content its absolute crap at least in 90s they made a few decent things even top gear has gone now i dont watch broadcast tv no more not for 10 years since i stopped paying licence fee and as i see when at moms bbc 1 is mainly repeats it makes you think what you pay fee for waste of money lets just hope it does not become another tax keep these coming jon great video
@mygreatbigfoot1679
@mygreatbigfoot1679 7 ай бұрын
I stopped watching Top Gear when it occurred to me that i’d rather have seen the engine of a car. Rather than have some poor mechanic extract it, so as to make a space for the cameraman to get in and genuflect for an upward angle shot of that guy with the long hair, who’s telling me what was in it before they removed the engine to get a shot of him and his glorious selfish.
@marylauder3374
@marylauder3374 7 ай бұрын
They have no problem paying their presenters but for Christmas we have to put up with Morecambe and Wise from the 70s!
@HomerSlated
@HomerSlated 7 ай бұрын
"The incentive would be to only make programming that retains subscribers." In other words the BBC is an elitist organisation that has elected itself the arbiter of good taste, and openly concedes that it makes programmes that only a tiny minority of people would pay for, if given the choice. Which is exactly why they don't want to give people that choice, and instead they levy what amounts to a "tax" on everyone who watches any TV channel, even if it's never the BBC. Because it's the only way they can get paid to make programmes that nobody wants to watch. It's an absolute racket.
@Isclachau
@Isclachau 7 ай бұрын
What’s funny is by making all their content woke and the awful state news propaganda who would pay for it. I think 65 million + people would say no thanks
@Phoenixash-delfuego
@Phoenixash-delfuego 7 ай бұрын
"state news propaganda" is a spot on description.
@philt5782
@philt5782 7 ай бұрын
If they stick it on the council tax I hope there is rioting on the poll tax level.
@80PercentScottish
@80PercentScottish 7 ай бұрын
Or at the very least, mass non-payment of council tax until it's removed.
@MikeEves
@MikeEves 7 ай бұрын
@@80PercentScottish I won't be paying mine. I've already remove the contribution to the police.
@johnburton2534
@johnburton2534 7 ай бұрын
Ask reform party what they intend to do with tv licence fee, if they will keep it dont vote for them.
@tennysonfordblackbird2087
@tennysonfordblackbird2087 7 ай бұрын
The Internet has changed the game and don't the BBC management get it?
@liveyourbestlifetoday5329
@liveyourbestlifetoday5329 7 ай бұрын
Cancelled my tv licence and won’t ever be renewing it
@markcoyle7283
@markcoyle7283 7 ай бұрын
Is just me or has the BBC excepted money from Disney in return for product placement. The product being what is now commonly known thanks to a well known KZfaqr as the message. A reported £100 million for Doctor who, this deserves a video Jon.
@johngilbert572
@johngilbert572 7 ай бұрын
Would you mean " accepted "?
@markcoyle7283
@markcoyle7283 7 ай бұрын
@@johngilbert572 I meant accepted, my bad.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 7 ай бұрын
Dr Who is part funded by Disney, hence it being so heavily pushing “the message” of wokisim.
@EmulsionTime
@EmulsionTime 7 ай бұрын
"Subscription wouldn't generate enough income" is a very careful way of saying that people don't actually want it. Side note, the government has always been incredibly eager to privatise things, but the BBC is not one of them. I wonder why...
@MartinBratley
@MartinBratley 7 ай бұрын
If it turns into a media tax, we are going to be taxed for opening our phones. WTF
@ianherd569
@ianherd569 7 ай бұрын
What qualifications are a prerequisite for any one to be employed in the BBC. (And Parliament for that matter)
@_Uh_Oh_
@_Uh_Oh_ 7 ай бұрын
Having an unscrupulous character/nature seems to be pretty high on the list of things they want from staff. Also being entitled and liberally "progressive"
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
Well, for parliament you need to be a very good liar.
@theunspokentruth5987
@theunspokentruth5987 7 ай бұрын
Im sick of the bbc as is rhe majority of the public
@alysebastien773
@alysebastien773 7 ай бұрын
I predict that the licence fee will be added to the council tax. This way, we will be forced into paying the corporate despite many of us not wanting their services. The government will back that method as the BBC pushes their directive.
@smike9884
@smike9884 7 ай бұрын
Red team, blue team - they're all the same. @Mantastic-ho3vm
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 7 ай бұрын
That’s what I think too. They’ll just fold it into the council tax, or make it a “media tax.”
@kinggeoffrey3801
@kinggeoffrey3801 7 ай бұрын
That's my worry. If they do I will still not pay. It's nothing but a scam.
@jackiehamilton2738
@jackiehamilton2738 7 ай бұрын
​@Mantastic-ho3vmIf you think that the other parties will be any better, then you are seriously deluded.
@stevenkillington5041
@stevenkillington5041 7 ай бұрын
Its been cancelled
@biggobmalc8118
@biggobmalc8118 7 ай бұрын
The ad industry follows numbers, and if the BBC make good programmes, they will attract ever growing viewing figures, which in turn will attract advertising revenue, but if they don’t, they won’t. It's not rocket science. Competition is good someone should try telling that to the BBC then maybe they would up their game now in preparation for the inevitable. As for Lineker he was or is still the unofficial, official voice off the BBC, it's just that they know that if they admit to it, they would be in breach of the royal charter, hence the reason why he's still allowed to post on social media at will.
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson 7 ай бұрын
Either that or he's got a lot of dirt on people in high places/salaries!
@markjeffery7319
@markjeffery7319 7 ай бұрын
But John they DO show Ads! In between every programme they advertise their own programmes!
@madjockmacsporran
@madjockmacsporran 7 ай бұрын
My biggest fear is that, with the more people choosing not to pay, is them implementing this 'media tax' type of thing which you mention at the end of this video. If they force us to do this then it officially becomes the state broadcaster and I would argue that they are then only allowed to broadcast factual information, something they're not currently very good at.
@TwistedNinja137
@TwistedNinja137 7 ай бұрын
When you're always going to be kept afloat regardless of your own failures, you have no reason to do better. They've had no reason to do better for decades, and that's why they cost so much and provide such low quality.
@JTScottOfficial
@JTScottOfficial 7 ай бұрын
The BBC is already closing local radio stations. I work for a charity in Merseyside, and Roger Lyon is a patron. He was recently let go from the BBC, as they're only having like 3 local programmes and the rest are now just national services. Losing more listeners in the process. So regardless of the change for "subscription" instead of the license, it wouldn't change for radios anymore.
@andymoore9977
@andymoore9977 7 ай бұрын
One of those fancy adverts between TV programmes cost a fortune to make. Drop one of those and putting on the test card would keep Radio Lancashire going for months.
@dibbla
@dibbla 7 ай бұрын
If the BBC truly believe what they preach that is that the service is "fantastic value for money" then they should have no worries going to a subscription model as everyone would buy a package! Clearly not the case!
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 7 ай бұрын
John on licensing. Why don't people do as us! Simply don't have a license and leave them to it. Their local radio was good but has been wrecked so bar R3 ive left them.
@StickySauce101
@StickySauce101 7 ай бұрын
Big Bully Company forgets what every other bully forgets, people eventually snap - BBC has harassed public for far too long and people no longer fear them.. people used to fear bullies but due to how prolific and bold bullies have become people no longer fear them, anger has replaced fear and thus they can do nothing but either give up on being bullies or continue to try and intimidate and get the inevitable rebellion that follows (DWP are much the same).
@williamthompson4389
@williamthompson4389 7 ай бұрын
If only we could have a Government that listened to the voice of the people they are supposed to represent!
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
That ain't ever going to happen sadly.
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 7 ай бұрын
Don’t watch or listen to the BBC - haven’t for years. Stopped watching BBC TV about 20 years ago and, for the radio, it’s even longer - stopped listening to BBC Radio way back in 1974 when my area got its first commercial radio station. *The BBC radio listening figures dropped by about 70% and they were whining about it even back then.* They’ve never recovered.
@headbangerbald1278
@headbangerbald1278 7 ай бұрын
Not paid for one for over 6 yrs now, and have no intention to ever pay again.
@greatscott369
@greatscott369 7 ай бұрын
Impartiality? BBC? Impartiality?
@averyvaliant
@averyvaliant 7 ай бұрын
I often wonder what would happen, if a multi millionaire or company were to place a single prime time advert on Netflix or Prime, explaining that people don't need a TV license simply for having a TV and it's only for watching LIVE TV or the iplayer I wonder how many would cancel?
@jackiehamilton2738
@jackiehamilton2738 7 ай бұрын
Licence. This is a British tax.
@Jamiep84
@Jamiep84 7 ай бұрын
For subscription, "Technical obstacles are huge" that news report said. Total BS. Every Freeview TV has a CI card slot on the back, to facilitate access to encrypted Pay TV services. Robust encryption IS supported on Freeview! Infrastructure is ALREADY in place!! "Not enough advertising to go round" - what garbage. With that argument they could have stopped Sky TV from launching, or C4, C5, or literally any new private service ever launched...
@SpareSomeChange8080
@SpareSomeChange8080 7 ай бұрын
I can understand the argument regarding advertising and it'll cause a big upset in the TV industry if they were instantly allowed to advertise... however this wouldn't be such a problem if they didn't make such a protected giant in the first place! I think they should start experimenting with it. Freeze the licence fee, and allow the BBC to only show X many adverts. The next year if it has worked, reduce the licence fee and allow more adverts; then do more after that.
@siypic
@siypic 7 ай бұрын
The BBC have no intention of giving up the license fee voluntarily........... and "commitee" looking into this for them will be instucted to only publish certain findings that support the status quo.
@timg1246
@timg1246 7 ай бұрын
I dis-agree. Clearly the licence fee is on its last legs. The 'mood music' coming from the BBC's hangers on is to put it on centralised taxation. That is sure to be the recommendation coming out of this.
@siypic
@siypic 7 ай бұрын
Any findings by that commitee will not include any avenue for the BBC to fund its own way........... you are right though...the taxation ploy its on its way
@jamesparry1547
@jamesparry1547 7 ай бұрын
They've denied people informed consent 😮
@MHLivestreams
@MHLivestreams 7 ай бұрын
Charging people a fee to brainwash them into accepting medical interventions that k1ll them? Amongst other things.... And they seriously expect people to actually pay!
@jackalynclassen2403
@jackalynclassen2403 7 ай бұрын
I cancelled my TV Licence 2 years ago. My husband and I watch Netflix in the evening for a couple of hours. When I am visiting my Mothers in a residential home which has a communal TV Licence I see what she watches and it is all the old repeats of Emmerdale, Coronation Street and Heartbeat. Out of interest I had a look at the television magazine and out of a whole days viewing there were only 5 things that did not have the R for repeat after them. I totally agree with you that the BBC has gone stale and they do not try to better themselves because they are guaranteed the money.
@Seminal_Ideas
@Seminal_Ideas 7 ай бұрын
A Rouge's gallery of BBC creeps and grifters. Scrap the licence fee. Privatise the BBC.
@johnredman4568
@johnredman4568 7 ай бұрын
TV has 60+ Freeview channels, the majority of these channels show repeats of programs that were originally shown upto 30 years age. Why pay for tthis?
@chrispaget1706
@chrispaget1706 7 ай бұрын
We should not need to have a license to watch tv.We have to pay enough as it is for Sky,Virgin etc.
@MrRobo.
@MrRobo. 7 ай бұрын
I agree with this video scrap the TV licence fee because you don't need a tv licence to watch almost 90% or more of all programs
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 7 ай бұрын
I've just done my no licence declaration today. I don't have a problem spending 5 minutes on the blower every couple of years to (very politely) tell them I don't need a licence. Been doing it for 8 years now, never had a problem, never had the letters every few months and I've never had a knock on the door. Today was a bit different though. My god, the agent WOULD NOT shut up about just how 'wonderful' iPlayer is. I have honestly had car salesmen apply less pressure to try and get a sale than this bellend did today! I had to tell him at least half a dozen times that there is literally NOTHING the BBC has to offer that I'm interested in, even if it was free. He wouldn't give it a rest until telling him (not so politely this time) that I didn't appreciate him trying to pressure me into paying for something that I neither want nor watch, especially since I've already declared this to be the case. What has always been a very easy, very quick and very amicable phonecall in the past seems to have turned into a pretty desperate, hard sales opportunity for them now.
@MHLivestreams
@MHLivestreams 7 ай бұрын
Send them a bill for your time, inconvenience, psychiatric injury, etc.... if they don't pay, sue them in the county court.
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 7 ай бұрын
@MHLivestreams Sue them for psychiatric distress? When the hell did I land in America?! I'm just pointing out that they've shifted to a pressure sales tactic that hasn't been there previously.
@MHLivestreams
@MHLivestreams 7 ай бұрын
@@bigal3055 you've been offered remedy options, I don't care whether you use them or not. They want your money and time, at your expense of being annoyed. Do the same back. Let yourself get attacked constantly then, I don't care. Use logic. If they get hit by lawsuits, they will stop. The more it costs, the quicker it happens. Psychiatric injury is a good claim, it's thousands. Don't knock it.
@bigal3055
@bigal3055 7 ай бұрын
@MHLivestreams If you want to go down that route, fill your boots. Personally though, I've more far more self pride and personal dignity than to make a claim for something that would be a 100% lie. I don't care how many thousands it's worth. My personal integrity is worth far, far more to me than spinning a pack of lies just for a quick buck.
@kdtjones
@kdtjones 7 ай бұрын
the only BBC channel I miss watching since giving up my TV in favour of streaming services is BBC Parliament. As a citizen I should have the ability to watch parliamentry coverage (live) without paying to do so.
@mirandaokon
@mirandaokon 7 ай бұрын
You may find it on You Tube.
@davidbailey4544
@davidbailey4544 7 ай бұрын
DONT YOU REALIZE SOME MPs GET A HAND OUT FROM BACKING THE TV LICENCE !!
@patrick3136
@patrick3136 7 ай бұрын
Couldn't care less for the BBC. Have been license free for approx 5 years. Haven't looked back at all. I wouldn't give money to the Saville protection league. Now they have Lineker who should just sit in the corner with his mouth shut!
@bsasteve
@bsasteve 7 ай бұрын
Just think of all those TV licence goons crying because they have lost there jobs🤣
@simonlevett4776
@simonlevett4776 7 ай бұрын
They can be re-deployed at street cleaners.
@pauljermyn5909
@pauljermyn5909 7 ай бұрын
Every bbc problem/scandal is 100% self inflicted
@glynjones5280
@glynjones5280 6 ай бұрын
JimmySavile, Rolf Harris,Stuart Hall,Hugh Edward’s . Just some of the Names to remember when the tv licence people knock at your door
@EXsnowboarder
@EXsnowboarder 7 ай бұрын
I feel the same, I already pay sky to use their SkyGo service, the only live programme I watch is the F1 events that Sky own the broadcasting rights, but that somehow makes me liable to pay for a TV licence how? It literally makes no sense!
@pivotset2
@pivotset2 7 ай бұрын
If the BBC had to survive without the licence fee tax it would have to be more user friendly to survive.
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