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Sending my love💗

The world of psychiatry is not much improved today. Different assaults on the body, but the same damages.

Men could lock their wives away for very little reason and they would always take the man’s word. Some husbands wanted to get ride of their wives so they could take a younger prettier wife and would just say my wife is crazy to get ride of her. They also locked ppl away for depression, panic attacks etc. so cruel

Now you're put in jail not the assylum. If, there's a difference.

Stfu. Everybody has adhd. You're normal. Stop with your lifetime of excuses, already. Pathetic worm 🖕

Bless her soul✌🏻🙏

How would it be obvious that you had ADHD??

@@melaniekendall4903 sorry that wasn't clear....I meant it would be obvious looking with today's eyes

We need more mums like your in them days ❤

That's what I said!

Looks bad, but at least back then there were beds to be admitted and get treatment. Now there is nothing.

Severe jail sentences rather than commited, but I take your point entirely.

Sooo correct, those doctors should have been commited first hahaha.

*@Travis Haynes* - You must be very young, bc you’re looking at practitioners and patients from 70 years ago with today’s eyes; _this is not only incredibly ignorant, but deeply irresponsible, spreading misinformation that the doctors were the psychopaths, and the patient were their victims._ The practitioners in the 1950s were just as committed to making the lives of their patients better, without the knowledge psychiatrists have today. As just one example, psychopaths can now be diagnosed via sophisticated brain scans. And since you probably have zero knowledge of the practice of clinical psychology today, let alone psychiatry, I’d say you’re in a very poor position to judge what happens now, let alone in the 50s.

MUCH WORSE..

Excactly, iv had to check myself a few times too, this day in age we think we struggle? But could u imagine having to endure wot these pepl went frew? Left for years being neglected, suffering, basically torrured, and forgotten about, so sad 😥 i struggle with my own mental health, but imagine being put in a place like this? Wow 😢

Turn that frown upside down

Yeah. You are free and you have rights. These people did not. They were locked up, abused and experimented on all their lives.

Old asylums amaze me such beautiful buildings . always wanted to do a ghost night in them .sadly they have all gone .. flats or some shit ..

could be they had confusion about how to get help that's why the homeless problem

Supposedly after the closing of many mental hospitals, there is mental outcare for former patients, however these centers were not utilized by people with mental illness either because follow up wasn't given to them, or it cre1

That poor lady. So terribly sad. I spent years in and out of psychiatric wards in the 90s onwards. Horrendous places. Even now, but now it's mostly because they don't help people

Maybe if they were properly staffed and thoroughly monitored by outside agencies it could be different. Here in the US, there are people living out in the streets that look to need care

That's a smart lady! I'm sure she saved your father's life!

Brilliant move Grandma.

In the 1970s, my grandfather, a Lord, with a seat in the chamber in London, tanned my arse with a paddling board for showing signs of autism and ADHD. Twas not a gentlemanly way to treat one's grandson.

I find out myself last year that I'm autistic. I got testing done years ago and nobody said anything about it until last July. Which makes sense to me now on why I act and acted in certain ways.

I am also autistic.. diagnosed last year late in life..my dad though has has bi polar for years..he indurred some of these treatments..like the electric shock treatment..I remember having to see my dad in one of these places..nower days he barely goes out..he has early onset dementure and is almost non responsive to anyone

Your poor Auntie-- punished for the crimes of her 'father'. Bless you for remembering her true spirit. Thank you for sharing her tragedy with us-- I will do an act of kindness in her honor.

Many great ideas don't travel so well. The lobotomy procedure has not in the long run.

That would be a terrible way to live.

A cousin of my Mother was put into the Asylum by her parents for having an illegitimate baby. She died in the Asylum 54 years later.

54 years :(

Drug companies now are doing the harm.

@@deanvinson4032 Yes, humans bringing harm and danger to other humans via corporations.

I 100% agree with both of those statements. Most of those Dr's. and nurses were sadistic monsters. They should have been locked in an underground bunker so no one could hear them scream.

That is extremely insightful and I absolutely agree 👍

My mother wasn't a lunatic until after Winterton.

When I was a CNA back in the day, I'd think about every resident as if they were my grandparent. It was really hard sometimes🙄😑. Especially the scary lady that pulled me onto her lap and bit down on my back hard af. She for sure wanted to kill me. I saw it in her eyes lol. AlI I knew was that if I was frustrated then they had to be fed tf up with it all. Keep calm, go cry in a room by yourself, breathing exercises, find a favorite resident and make them your friend. Whatever it takes.

@Donavon Seibert thank you for what u did for the patients u took care of.

@@jennifers.3818 Thank you for thanking me. I really appreciate it.

@angelidez13 That compassion makes ALL the difference for your patients. Thank you for remembering that. It would be a good thing if watching documentaries like this were made mandatory for mental healthcare workers when they are first brought in, and then every few months after to keep perspective. Continued training in care techniques and being hired for a higher wage in exchange for better quality workers is desperately needed as well.

@@donavonseibert507 Exactly, I had my handful of really sweet patients and spending time with them always made it worth it. Even with the scratch marks and bruises covering my arms from the Vietnam vets lol

Geel was the home of St Dympna the patron saint of people suffering with mental illness

I saw a recent documentary that was like that. I don't know if it was the same place, but I'm so glad there are positive changes in a few places. The problem is that the poor will never have access, at least not in N America. Canada is getting more like the US all the time, and turning into an evil empire. It's a Trumpist MAGAt infested nightmare.

Bless you 🙂

@@secretagent5954 Excuse me? Why would you say something like that?

Take care of yourself. You are a superstar. Poor poor people. Thank everything my sister and brothers were always there to look after my mum and dad. My dad died few years ago. He had Alzheimer’s in later life but well looked after in later life in Annfield care home Stirling. he was 98 when he passed away. My mum died year before age 97. I wish I could go back and help them.

I have many myself and am SOOOO GRATEFUL to have been born in the 90's AFTER these places were closed down. It's a really terrifying thought that had I been born 5 or 10 years earlier that I might have been put into one myself. I have autism and bi-polar disorder, so there's no doubt in my mind that I might very well have ended up in one of these places. Thanks to my autism i'm a little bit slow with understanding certain things and as a result when I cant get something I get frustrated rather easily which would lead to outbursts in school.

My thought exactly

That wouldn't have been the old "Graylands Hospital" in Perth would it? I've heard some horror stories about that place!

There are very EVIL people in this world.

ECT when done properly is life saving, it brought me out of a terrible place and then kept me out, know ECT is not done the way it’s shown in the video

Amanda Murphy indeed. I’ve been a nurse caring for patients having the treatment and have seen a near 180 degree turn around in their lives.

I’ve had 25 ECT treatments over the course of a year. ECT actually helped my severe medication resistance depression. I was put under each time and subsequently had very small seizures measured by a slight movement of my toes. I would be very tired for the rest of the day and most of the next. I CANNOT imagine going through this without anesthesia. Thank God, I was never in any pain. However, ECT was only part of the solution. I also had CBT and DBT therapy. The only lasting effects of ECT is an extreme memory loss of certain parts of my past. My short term memory is also not great but I am able to function daily. In hindsight, I think I could have done with far less than 25 treatments. My memory may not have been as affected. Anyway, I am doing great now and credit many things with my recovery.

ECT can still help people with severe med-resistant depression too. So the idea is scary, but it's not used lightly, & it's not administered in the same way. It saved a very suicidal family member of mine...

What is ECT?

johnba291972 I agree but I think he meant he was remorseful for having anything to do with the lobotomy’s being done because they didn’t know back then that it was horrible 😕

johnba291972 although I sensed much regret seeping through as he spoke of it

@ju ju they didnt know back then. they thought it could cure them

ju ju yeah theyre just using them as guinea pigs to see what cured them. theyd try anything to find a cure and didnt see the wrong in it

ju ju im aware they haven’t gone away..

I was sent to Linden Oaks Hotel a long time ago they thought the brightest thing in the world was to put me on Zoloft, the treatment of that stuff I wont go into only I was thought 2 be mental, I have dev delay and it didn't help my brain. Visitors were kept to 2 per person, you had to have supervised meals, if you brought in say book it had to be marked with your name. My parents had to be careful bringing stuff to me, I can go on and on. Nowadays due to that, some ppl-they havent yet- think I need to be in a new asylum called a group home bc I'm' running around lose,'

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The mentally ill also make up a lot of the prison population. There is still a stigma with seeking mental help in 2020.

Yes, its terrible. Some have been treated badly by police.

You’re damn right! Everyone wants to discuss how terrible mental health treatment was many years ago. It’s still horrific even today.

Exactly.

Anyone who's too old or different or pregnant not married or bored in life or different the slightest bit or just to old. Or state took you bc it would be better for everyone.

So true...My grandmother was found dead in an asylum in Australia, having been left out on a verandah in the freezing cold temperatures overnight, while suffering from double pneumonia at the time. There was no investigation into neglect on the part of any workers regarding how and why she died.

​@@joachimcoonan6255😢😢😢🥺💔

They treated me like complete sh!t. Doped me up. I had fits of anger because how they were treating me and they had 5 guards on me and injected me with some medication I don't know what it was. Then throw you in a cell with a thin mattress on the floor and no blanket. I was freezing. It was awful.

Doped and zapped with inhuman ect 1969 a crime against humanity a class action long overdue

Absolutely, i think the same 😑

I wanted to sign up for there because i have a little mental illness but you guys are making it sound bad​@@JinxMarie1985

I wouldn't agree more...

I have herd that there husband's would send them there just to get rid of them .How sad

There are still Government Run Mental Hospitals that have long term patients. In The USA, the Coroner can deem a patient who has for example, someone who tried to commit suicide, needs to be put in the State Run Mental Hospital for their own good. And if the Coroner admits a patient to a State Run Mental Hospital, that disregards any insurance a person has that may allow them to go to a "nicer" private hospital! I had a friend this happened to, and while she was forced to stay in the STILL HORRIBLE State Run Hospital, there were men who were Janitors who tried to rape her, and when she convinced them of who she is married to, they stopped, but other women were not so lucky. She befriended 2 other women in there who were basically in the same position she was. One morning, one of the other women wasn't at breakfast. Later, when they finally saw her, she was catatonic and couldn't even speak. When they approached her, her eyes widened in terror and she coward away from them, as if she had never met them. Even though at that point, they had stuck together for nearly 4 months. My friends husband works in a fairly powerful position, he could not get her released. She had to do everything they said, step by step, day by day, to convince them she was okay emotionally, in order to get released. She was there for almost a year. This happened only a little over 3 years ago! I also didn't think that a family member could still have someone committed, but that's how one of the other women ended up in there. Oh, and she did later find out the one woman had been given electric shock therapy. I also thought they quit using that! She also knew that some of the older patients had been severely abused and raped, but they didn't have anyone to tell. And without physical evidence to prove what went on and goes on in there, she can't do anything about it. I'm livid that this crap still continues to this day.

@@jackiemarini3203 What's even worse, children were dropped off and the parents never went back for them, most just because they decided children were a mere inconvenience. Oh, but today, in some States now, people can decide they don't want the baby and the Dr can just murder the baby upon delivery, like in New York. I'm appalled about what is going on in our societies today. WORSE, DeBlasio CELEBRATED the passing of their Bill that gives them the authority to murder any unwanted babies. I'm sick just posting that this is true.

@@MimiJoys I know is awful what is going on in the world .💔

The doctors are the real crazy people

I'm sorry I have low blood sugar. It causes anxiety attacks its so scary. The doctors are the lunatics. It's to do with post war fascism. Good old Enoch Powell. Truth speaker.

No wonder they wanted to escape!

That is so sad. Terrible thing to do to someone!!!

Yes. I came to America in the 80s and they were going through the same process in the early 70s. There's a similar documentary too, I remember seeing it in the 90s. Everyone making key decisions has peoples best interest at heart but, of course, govt. decisions are based on finance and expedience...

When I was 7 the babysitter took me to a state mental hospital where her husband was. It was literally the thing of movies and legend. Scary, bad, not a place to take a 7 year old.

Last I knew, there was a state mental hospital located PORTERVILLE, , CALIF

They are still open

txvoltaire and mental health care is scare, non-existent in rural areas.

Exactly..no help whatsoever and not just Texas

True - I watch a lot of prison documentaries and they stated that if they had proper mental health services, there would a lot less ppl in prisons and less need for prisons.

Prison and California seems to attract them equally.

Same in Canada

Back in those days you would have been in one of these horror institutions - imagine

Im so sorry you had 2 go through that 😔 love 2 u ❤💝

That's very true and still prescribing medications that are poisoning people .

I totally agree with you! Fortunately, by the late 1980s, the approach to mental health had improved greatly in comparison to the 1960s-70s! Electric shock treatments and lobotomies were brutal! I feel sorry for Rosemary Kennedy, who got a lobotomy in 1941, and Eduard Einstein who received electric shock treatments! I believe that there will be future improvements in how the mentally ill will be treated by mental health specialists. For now, psychiatrists are stuck on the paradigm of approaching every mental health problem with a psychotropic drug. Psychologists are stuck on the Freudian/Darwinian paradigm of mental health issues. Hopefully, psychiatrists and psychologists will learn that there is a God, and that they need God's help in guiding patients to a better life!

Unfortunately back in the day, when President Reagan and the activists decided that it would be such a great plan to replace the mental hospitals with neighborhood halfway houses (that nobody wanted in their neighborhoods), nursing homes, & sending patients home to their families, they didn't take into consideration the many people who had spent much of their lives institutionalized & couldn't live on the outside or the people who actually needed to be in institutions. Instead of making the hospitals better, they just opened the doors & released people; many of them couldn't then (or now) take care of themselves.😢😡😥

Agreed. I suffered from unresponsive bipolar disorder for many years- forty and more. During a hospitalization, I asked about ECT. They agreed, and I had several treatments in the hospital. They worked quite well, giving me relief from the symptoms. Over the past ten years I've had several more courses of ECT. They're inconvenient and uncomfortable, but well worth it.

Caitlin Minor and it slowly deteriorates your memory and requires more and more treatments. Not a good answer.... purposely inflicting a seizure? No way!

I have seen both positive and neutral outcomes from ECT. I have seen the 180 of a woman who suffered severe depression. Within 12 months, she would be back down and require more ECT. We had a set of twin women in their 60s who would be in every 6 months to treat their bipolar. They would come in, heads down, dishevelled, non communicative and hygiene no existent. After their rounds of ECT over 2 weeks, they would near be skipping, laughing and all around new people. They swore by it. What works for some doesn't work for others.

A friend recently had it .

Strom gehört nicht an ein lebendiges Individium. Nicht an Menschen nicht an Tieren und auch nicht an Pflanzen. Das ist Satanisch.

Sadly things haven’t 😰

Same here. I was just thinking that.

Vanessa C u later back in the early 80s there was big revelations from good real reporters

That has to be one of my favourite films which gets me every time xx

Lorraine Hammond - the Doctor at the end said it best, “the community doesn’t care”, and so the plan fails.

There was no care in the community and yes thousands killed themselves

@@crystalm4324 : And, their families don't care either.

Unfortunately jails have become the new asylums.

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As a museum??ah ya rt....mow it down already its a rats nest!! All thos poor souls 😢 💔 😔

You are so right

Mimi Cracra thank you for sharing your wonderful story..l went to visit a friend of a friend in a place in Melbourne,it was really bad there as l seen people hitting there heads on the walls,people screaming..also people hurting one another..l watched the staff there do nothing to stop any of it...shocking to think no one gives a dam about these people..Frightened me so much l had to wait out side..l cannot believe that it still goes on in this day an age...

@@sorianakhuba9939 and what would you have happen insted? In an age where people prefer to think hardcore mental illness doesn't exist anymore you can hardly do much more than keep them in a box and sedate them, wouldn't be good optics to try and do somthing pro-active like find a medical solution

Very accurate.

My grandfather was violently attacked by a mentally ill man who was kept at home in the family. He jumped my grandpa and smashed his head in, cracked his skull, almost murdered him in broad daylight if people had not interfered. Some people have to be in locked facilities when they are dangerous and violent because they are a danger to society. My grandpa barely survived this brutal attack and was never the same after that.

I agree with you, community care is all good and well but what if the person is so sick that they need constant treatment, I see people walking around on a daily basis that can not cope alone and then they invariably end up either in prison or living rough, comittting crimes to survive - it is not fair on them or us

They do exist still, just not like they used to

So sad

I live in Canada, grew up in the province of Alberta. When my grandfather had to go to the nursing home in our city, because of a stroke that left him unable to walk, talk or take care of himself, my grandmother had taken care of him until he started to fall, and she could not lift him. In there were Chinese residents who had been there from early childhood, because they were mentally retarded and considered useless burdens by their families. This was in the 30s and 40s when the children were just left and the families never visited them. I was young enough to want to ask a nurse why an old folks home had mentally retarded residents. She reluctantly told me , understanding I would keep asking until somebody told me. The 40 year old man who was my grandfather's roommate was in my eyes a little young to be there. He could not speak clearly, but was very active and friendly, and seemed to understand when my grandfather grunted , what he wanted or needed. I saw he was not mentally retarded, he could take care of himself, always very neat and clean, loved my grandfather and took care of him. Why was he here, made no sense, my Mom got the story before I could ask a nurse, it is very sad. He came from a large family of around 12 kids, they lived on a farm. He was born normal, but they found that he could not speak clearly, people at that time had little extra money to spend on Doctors so his Dad assumed he was retarded and he never got treatment for his issue or went to school. The mother knew he had normal intelligence , but her opinion was discounted. He came in as a child when his mother died and none of his older siblings wanted him, nor his father, so he was put in an old folks home. The nurses soon realized he could understand perfectly well, and let him help out . It kept him busy and he was so happy to help other residents and do what ever he could to help the nurses. I am sure that he must have cried at night for being taken away and for losing the only person who truly loved him. The staff did their best to make him feel loved, but they knew this was not an ideal place for a child. This happened more often than people realized. The other choice would have been an asylum which would have been awful. He was lucky in a way that he was where he was. My grandmother went into the same place but not on the same ward, and he helped lift the burden of caring for my granddad to a great extent for my grandmother who could not see well . It was a black hole in the middle of her vision and she had hazy periferal vision and soon was completely blind. My Mom in her 40's started to have the same condition with her eyes, but it has progressed much more slowly, she is 99 going to be 100 in October and she no longer can read because the letters get mixed up and has a very hard time to write. I guess he most likely has passed on, but I will always remember his happiness and the love he had for my grandfather. My granddad had never been sick as an adult, always healthy and doing woodwork . Than this stroke came and deprived him of not just his abilities to move and speak, but his sense of worth but his room mate somehow helped him accept his new reality but also thrive emotionally. Our family owes him a great debt. I will fore ever see in my mind's eye how he would take my hand and chat away and take me to see granddad. I may not have understood his words but I understood his Heart of Service for others. We were his family and he made sure to his best ability to create Joy . This child, despite the hard circumstances, made the choice to live the best life he could and he did much more . He is one of my Heros of my childhood.

Please use different verbage, she is not "a down syndrome woman". She may have this but she is not down syndrome and it is not her.

So very true!

crowe2you amen 🙏

Ron B it’s not just empty words that has to occur and there’s no magic time. The moment you accept Christ’s sacrifice which paid for every one of our sins, on the cross, and BELIEVE it and have faith. No one can get to our Father, except through His Son, Jesus Christ. He knows your heart and intention, always. He wants as many of His children as possible, to come back to Him without force. The devil is “allowed, for a short time,” to tempt your heart. That’s your gift of free will. You can’t know good without evil and evil without good. It’s your choice. Choose Eternal Life in Christ, not death.

They will meet their maker sooner then that expect. God doesn't like ugly... And I believe in karma and she's a bitch! Sorry for the curse word

She was probably the normal one in the fam but they need robotic obedient people to perform.. same with generational narcissistic abusive families, the scapegoat has empathy and they want to destroy that because you have a mind of your own and care for people, very hideous stuff with a lot of programming and gaslighting. I’ve researched this stuff for a long time, mindblowing these similarities, also educational books on detachment parenting that was promoted, like Spock the man came from a dis functional family..

A very long way.

Andrew Gems well i have ! and thats offensive and pigeon holing

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That's why people shouldn't idolize these celebrities. They're the main ones with skeletons in their closets.

I worked in Veteran's home and a resident got electric shock and he would come back up eat and could walk. He had Parkinson's and it helped him with depression. He would go once a month . It was amazing

Are you trying to kill yourself in the canal evry single week like her?

I spell my name just like you and my last name is with a B. That's cool. Hello fellow Kristine B

Kristine B I read your comment, then heard her say it, LOL 😂, good one ☝️

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Sick !

Haha that's hilarious well said 🤣👏

@Sly Sutton most of the inmates in prisons ,have mental health probs ,sum are pysczoprennia, bi polar, disorder ,or just mentally insane ,I have seen it for myself ,but no one in prison get help, infact there is no mental health imprison, coz the officers n medics didn't care less ,in their eyes they'd say so what !! It's not changed at all

HM?

Same

Right. These Republicans don't care about the mentally ill. There still is a stigma and although we came far from those barbaric treatments, more work needs to be done

Kerching and a kerching ..say no more $$$$ sad he didn't put the money where his mouth was whilst in power and instead acted like a turkey to a gobble of a gobble with greed. So much more would of been accomplished from position to those years than a lifetime which continues to be wasted on greed and spoilt brat attitudes to their own self glorifying ways .

Reagan showed there’s no value of education or the ill. He made millions dollars worth of budget cuts in education programs and schools as well particularly for the poor. Unfortunately the sick and poor were always the ones suffering for the selfish monetary agenda of the house.

@@SM-fy2im yes its true yet president reagan died from a mental health condition altziemers disease you reap what you saw

@@SM-fy2im You must be an Obama Common Core failure. Republicans are PRO life while Democrats are PRO death and don't give a damn about anyone being murdered.

GaslitWorld f. Melissa B you don’t have mental hospitals in the US?? Wtf! Do people just go to a regular hospital then? It’s crazy to me considering the unique care/treatment most mental health issues/concerns require for any chance of recovery!

@@Becky149x yes we do have mental hospitals in the US. They are usually state run. A mental hospital usually houses long term patients. Regular hospitals all have a psychiatric wards and are used for patients requiring short term hospitalizations.

I too have spent time in hospital for mental illness--and been pushed back out into the world because they didn't have the resources to deal with me. Luckily, I have a wonderful family with an educated background and access to many resources. In past times, I would have been a strong candidate for pre-frontal leucotomy; in 2016 I was finally diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder (I had been trying to get another psychiatric evaluation since 2003, but it took a court order from our district's Mental Health Court to get it done), which has been a huge relief because now I know that it's an actual thing, separate and distinct from (though probably triggered by) the traumatic brain injury in 1988. No known cure, but there are treatments available, and I've gone through Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) twice, and gratefully.

I did inpatient for 7 days and outpatient for 5 days. It was the best thing I ever did. It saves my life and I got very good care. It wasn't a bad experience at all. We were able to laugh and relax. I finally got proper treatment for bi polar and anxiety.

There most definitely ARE mental hospitals in the US. I was in one just recently in Massachusetts. Where did you get the idea that there aren't any?

I loved that movie as a kid!

I hope your friend is on the mend. God bless her ❤

They got a lot better in the 70's. Now they live in HUD subsidized housing, sometimes creating millions of problems for landlords, who aren't equipped to deal with mental illness. They don't train them or offer some kind of orientation for transitioning to independence. Now, the system allows millions to fall through the cracks.

Most can't live on their own. So that was never a solution.

@Jason Bouphasavanh I've been navigating the government programs for this for a member of my family. The only thing that can be done is "to have a member of their family " put aside their own personal life so that they can take care of them on a 24 hour every day care.

@@obrianmorgan what a "comforting" solution..!😢

I was an emotional teen (puberty gone wrong) and a few times, when I got emotional (cried, got angry), my mom would snap, "do you need to go to the mental hospital?!"

@Ron B weird bastard

Take care of yourself.

Geraldo did a documentary about a “hospital that was the epitome of deplorable. Patients, most of whom were dumped because they needed a minimum of care to special needs children who needed basic needs, and would be totally neglected and sometimes starved to death in this hospital

But Heraldo was himself a nut and a fraud.

Amen to that big time

I agree. They could have reformed the system, but $$ and politics were more important than patient care. Many patients could thrive under assisted living, or nursing home style care. Now most of our most seriously ill end up in prisons where the "state" has to take care of them just like these old institutions.

Many Homeless don't want treatments because they are drug addicts! They've been asked and asked, as the Streets of cities such as, San Francisco, have become open tent cities. It smells of Urine and Feces as they have nowhere to go's, they have nowhere to shower or care for their most basic human needs.

Who's the humanitarianism in aid of? The general populace or the people locked away?

The morality has changed and people wouldn't go in now for being homosexual, masturbating and other Victorian crimes. BUT do we have the right to lock up drug addicts, and alcoholics who live on the street since we allow free choice. I THINK we should lock up the addicts for vagrancy and see once detox ed if they are mentally ill or not. Those who are I'll need inpatient care until well enough to function elsewhere. Those who are homeless and choose addiction should end up in the penal system for vagrancy and public issues like urination and defecation on streets. Offering treatment again for addiction while incarcerated to improve lives on release. We shouldn't have to lose our cities to homeless hoards like San Francisco and Seattle have.

I read a story about a family where the son was losing his mind but doctors said they couldn't hospitalize him unless he's hurt himself or someone else. 🙄 I mean, why wait if he clearly needs help now?!

Danielle S that nurses got killed and severely injured by the patients

I think there will be something to be said about the use of medication for mental health issues. As effective & helpful as they may be; neuroleptics (anti-psychotics) & antidepressants are dangerous and cause chemical brain damage... we're all too quick to just give people a pill instead of actually helping them... just my $0.02

As a kid who had electroshock treatments in the early 90' under the age of 7 because I was depressed and anorexic... Ask me again what I think about psychiatric ward 20 years later..... As in today.... You don't need a hundred years to realize what we are doing and get that we need to stop.

I always wonder this about many subjects, each decade we slate the fashion of a few decades past.... What will we be wearing in the future to look back at today's clothing and laugh!

Dummy do you not understand the length of time the Victorian period lasted it by the 80s it was well over a hundred years looking back.

That is the history of mankind - *homo-sapien sapien* - created in god's image. Lol. (Free will is a lark to me). Lepers were segregated and food rations taken to them in the Middle East. It is highly contagious, so quarantine makes sense, but they didn't have true homes. They wandered about, living in caves, abandoned buildings and any makeshift shelter (perhaps mines as well). Jews, Christians and polytheist - all treated them the same way, despite Jesus' supposed example.

That's when you know humanity is lost.

You could say that about most kinds of medical proseses of the past if you look at it with modern knolage. In time it's likly your profession may well be looked down on as being lesser with future knolage

@@gettinglost316 :You have a very good point about changes/advances in medicine...doctors would go from one woman in labor and delivery, but never wash or cleanse their hands. Women were dying in numbers due to "childbirth fever", and I believe that it was Louis Pasteur discovered this: rinse your hands in Catholic acid in between patients. This was life changing news for sure. Childbirth fever was finally under control, so to speak. 🌞🏨

I worked in a hospital in New Zealand and wayward girls were left there in the forties and fifties. Honestly they should have been in the community. In the seventies they had to be diagnosed with a learning disability. (severe). To be admitted. Delia Morris

Absolutely! Looking for someone to save them still to this day

Even the ghosts can't rest

No one knew the truth then , and surely won’t know now ........

@Jody Doherty It's awful. We came along way but more work needs to be done. There still is a stigma attached

OMG! That is just awful. We were second class citizens. That wouldn't fly today. We have come along way but more work needs to be done

Have you read the story The Yellow Wallpaper? Such a tragic tale.

Damn! I’d be in there for sure, but in the basement because of the color of my skin. Everything was segregated too. These bastards did more harm than good.

They would skin me alive if I was born back then....how do they think babies are made...were people really that mentally fucking retarded?

I wonder if the PTSD came from WWII. She may have been a very young child.

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Here. Here. I am in a similar situation. I work hard to keep stable. Haven't been hospitalized since '09. I take medicine. That said, once an emergency unit takes you - you may wait hours for them to find a bed. Then an ambulance takes you like you're physically sick on a gurney - no less. That runs up quite a bill. Anyway, sometimes they literally cannot find a place with an empty bed - so you're SOL. I hate this model. And sadly, liberals have pushed so hard for Independent Living, that now they basically support the closure of in-patient hospitals, which some people really need, due to severe symptoms of schizophrenia (as many just really won't take their meds once they feel better).

...accept He didn't. Lol. And now they have to live on the streets. What an alternative.

It was just as bad in the Middle Ages, at the peak of Christian power in Europe and the US. Only Quakers forwarded humane treatment here in the US, focused on fresh air, country life, exercise and of course, spirituality. Sadly, the Quakers are only a shadow of what they used to be. I don't know why. They were vocal in abolition.

There obviously isn’t a god in the way people think there is in my opinion

Good choice of a movie .... enjoy! 😊🌷😊

top series..

Jan J hahaha 😂. Comic relief for the absolute tragedy. Thanks 🙏

like ya comment bout u in search of da ghost i love my parraormal. Hello my names Nicola.

Loved this movie, plus I really liked the Netflix series, even though it is nothing like the movie.

They were known as the barmy house or the loony bin,,,,,,if you did anything a little out of the ordinary people would say "you'll end up in the loony bin in burntwood

But what to do with the true psychopaths and serial killers amongst us? Prison yes but only áfter its to late and they did their harm. I fear for my three beautiful kids.

Big time

ECT is still being used today. I saw it done in nursing school but they don't spaz like this anymore.....anesthesia is used....