Those are my 2 options. Thanks SOOOO much for doing this review

Just purchased a 2019 Kuma LD in one nation midnight, won’t see it till Christmas tho.. damn good bow worth the wait. Best bang for buck and then some..

Really leaning toward the Bear......

Have a 2018 bear kuma for 3d shooting love the bow 28.5 draw at 70lb with a 388 gr arrow shoots 318 fps

Not sure which draws better,which has less hand vibe after shot ? If those were close to equal I'd take the Bear because of ease of adjustability and price?

Which bow had a firmer back wall? I keep hearing that the Bear has a really soft wall but haven't shot one to find out.

Which has a smoother, better draw cycle?

Trust me the Bear is quiet, fast, holds great, and vibe free. Bear bows get a bad rap but are sweet bows. Shoot it before you choose. You will be impressed. Their customer service is top notch, really nothing bad to say.

Elite, hands down.

How about string Angle at 29-30” DL

I have had 2 bow techs(still have 360), hoyt carbon defiant and two Bears, Agenda 6 and Escape. Obviously Escape is newer. RPM 360 is smooth, but HEAVY. Hoyt is just an awesome Bow Does everything well but doesn't stand out. I like my Agenda but love the Escape. The Bows look visually similar, but you can feel the advancement of 3 years. Smoother, quieter, no hand shock, grip is better, and despite the 75% letoff, bow is easy to hold. Adjustable Cams, cable or limb stops. Cam timing was spot on out of the box, and stayed after I set the draw length. If the Kuma 30 has two years more improvement, it's got to be an awesome Bow. Cant say anything bad about my Hoyt, except "Damn they are pricey"

BH between the two are huge differences

Great review. One shot the Kuma hinge cable guard is point up and then it's back down. WTF?

I just got the ritual 30 a few weeks ago. My choices were the Kuma 30, ritual 30-33, and Martin adix 30. After spending 6 hours in my bow shop and probably 300-500 arrows I went with the ritual 30. The back wall on the elite bows is as firm as they get. The hand shock and vibration is virtually 0 on the ritual 30 aswell, slightly less vibration on the ritual 33 through. And the elite bows draw cycles were hands down the best in the business. Elite knows how to make a shootable bow. The winners for 2019 are the Mathews vertix/traverse. And the ritual series for elite. Go shoot those bows and experience them. They are as good as they get. Can’t wait to see what new comes out from both those companies

Have not shot the Bear, but I did not care for the Elite Ritual 30.

Great but you guys didn't tell us anything. We see that the Kuma is a little faster but you didn't compare the draw cycles, vibration, deadness. But I guess that in your position you really can't opine re which you like better,etc.

Who has a better draw cicle?

Well after seeing is hmmmm neither for me ...but it did make me take out my ol'faithful and have it refreshed strings and upgraded Viva my PSE dominator 3D max..... so now i have 3 bows all PSE shooting like butter...no need to buy new

Godda go with the Kuma 30

BEAR all the way

The bear hands down for the simple fact that's its adjustable

Elite all the way no doubt.

I don’t like the janky string stops on the bear. Just sold a BR33. Won’t be buying another bear

kuma is a Japanese word bear so my vote go to the bear bear 30 lol I like the kuma

Neither

Hoyt is yuck

I think that Kuma is little Lauder, but a 100$is a 100$

Bear has to have dual suppression to quiet down their junk ass bows