I don't know what's more impressive, the rock-paper-scissors deck interactions or that you've found the first format where gaining life is a winning strategy.

I love not only you had an answer to your deck, but an answer to the answer to your deck

I would probably just play you with a deck of Lotuses and Sharazads. It won't win but it will damn sure waste a lot of your time until you decide that losing the $100 is a small price to pay for you to move on.

20 simian spirit guide and 40 surging flames. Mull to 2 ssg and ripple through your deck 2 damage at a time at instant speed with dross or shoal on the stack.

This is one of the most entertaining MtG videos I have seen in a really, really long time. This was a delight, you are awesome Nikachu!

You could play 3 frogmites in your memnite deck without the possibility of drawing too many and not being able to play them! A hand with all 3 frogmites and 4 memnites still gets to cast everything for free and you get 3 more power (wow!)

The fact that buying this deck from CK costs under $50 is wild

Nikachu normally: 😇 Nikachu today: 😈

Hahaha that was amazing. Magic as Richard Garfield intended

That is hysterical!!! So broken. I love it!!🤣🤣🤣

The comedic value was off the charts. Also props to all participants involved. This is a metagame in progress

What a great video. I always love when a main channel upload hits, keep up the great work!

Dude, that was awesome!!! Looking foward to more Challenges videos!

Man you really dialed the KZfaq persona up to 11 for these one. Loved it. Felt very appropriate 😂

This is the kind of glorious content I keep coming back for!

Awesome video! Im waiting for the next Nikachu challenge!

You are so creative in your MTG content creation!

DEFINITELY make more videos both this content, awesome

Yaaaay! Our Praetor overlords have finally blessed the channel with a new Nikachu video! 🙌

Magic can be both stupid and amazing at the same time. This was fantastic! 🤣

I really love absurd uncharted territory formats like this. A few years back Arena did a special draft event that I loved where you had a starting and max hand size of 3, but all spells cost zero mana. It was a legitimately fun and interesting and competitive format as long as you could accept that some games you would lose turn one with no answers.

Some genuinely original and interesting MTG content !

Nikachu, I've said this before but I'll say it again. I don't even play MtG but I love watching your videos, the way you talk about the game and everything that goes with it is hilarious, fun, and very entertaining. Thanks for making some fun, engaging and honestly insightful videos on a cool game!

Lmaoooo when you said the vintage deck entering against a nuclear bomb!! 😅😅🤣

Great concept for video, Love it :)

Well you just got my sub for this. You clever fellow!

Its like you're evolving different habitats and niches in real time. I hope this format gets super popular for the creative meta.

This was one of the best vids I have watched in a while.

Man that was crazy, and this video was well made :D

24 Ancestrall Recall 8 Black Lotus 7 Leyline of Anticipation 1 Thassa's Oracle ez clap

That's what I call an AMAZING content!

Love the alarm🚨 "THAT'S BROKEN!"

Really awesome video, Nikachu! This content is a blast. It inspires brewing in the frontier realm of Freeform. My list: 10 Flash, 10 Protean Hulk, 10 Elvish Spirit Guide, 10 Gemstone Caverns, 5 Disciple of the Vault, 5 Phyrexian Marauder, 10 Pact of Negation Maybe 10 Leyline of Sanctity in the SB for game 2 against Dross and similar decks before a bait and switch back to the main strategy in full for a quick game 3 win.

That was great, thanks!

Lol that podracing reference was the best

If you open up this challenge again, I'd love to show you how I'd beat this regardless of sideboards

this is by far my favorite video you have made.

Not what I expected, but I'm not aware of the freeform format. That was fun!

That was an awesome challenge!

This was dope. More jank and this please.

switch those memnite to a turn one win combo like black lotus + ancestral recall + walking ballista

The chancellor of dross deck can beat the nourishing shoals by adding a 1 of worldspine worm of their own to not deck and a surgical extraction to remove the opposing worldspine worms. Of course, then the shoal deck likely will bring in a surgical of their own and a redundant shuffler like emrakul to beat it, so idk

I tried thinking of a strategy that beats the Dross on the play or the draw, and I came up with: 30x Simian Spirit Guide 15x Manamorphose 17x Stifle 62 cards in deck so with the Manamorphose draw it still beats the dross deck after we both draw everything Unfortunately, even this strategy is helpless against the memnites

How would one of those vintage Leyline turn zero do with the unlimited copies. Counterbore and Quash? Or personally if I had a Leyline of Anticipations I’d combine it some massive mana combo, Guile and Dovescape. Maybe cards like Repudiate//Replicate and Trickbind. Or leyline both Anticipation and Combustion, lotuses and a bit of life gain to do Channel with Fireball.

Ingenious!

Awesome video bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥

this was REALLY good.

Dude, that format is cool.

Fun watch, Nik!

40 Elvish spirit guide, 10 Repudiate//Replicate, 5 each Worldspine and Shoal.

I'm sure you could do some stuff with a massive stack of Simian Spirit Guides and ritual spells. Basically have all the mana you need for instant speed things, use looting/exile-play/draw effects to dig and specifically ones that generate as much or more mana/cards than you're putting in (or Manamorphose which replaces itself 100%, also Jeskas Will is also good for both roles unless you're facing the lifegain Wurm deck), and then finish off with a massive Grapeshot. Wins before the Chancellor triggers resolve, before Memnites get a turn, and kills even over the potentially 45 extra life that the Worldspine Wurm deck gets if you stack the deck tall enough.

There was a Frank Karsten article on this about 7 years ago on CFB, something about what would modern look like if you abolished the rule of 4 copies. There are at least 3 archetypes, i think even 4.

What the hell were these matches HAHAHAHAHAHA. Keep up with the great work nikachu u.u

this seems like the birth of magic

Never knew about memnite, gonna hit my local game shop up for some.

Hi Nikachu! Do you know why are the using Flooded Strand + Snow Covered Islands on some modern merfolk lists? I am building a manabase and can´t get my head around that. Thanks in advance fish master!

This is old, when Chancellor of the Dross was first released, people built this deck, then came Nourishing Shoal to beat it, you can build a classic Fire ball Lotus & Channel deck with as few as 10 Shoals to beat this deck all the time. Its fun however that there's actually some kind of meta to this format.

Love your content ❤

With the memnite deck you should have put the golem that is cheaper for each artifact and makes all artifacts cheaper then put in coat of arms

This is brilliant

My immediate thought went to flash hulk style deck. It might be less consistent but you should be able to win with the triggers on the stack with spirit guides.

This was pretty fucking cool dude

Seeing the video just now and found something that would work with a bit of luck. If you happen to have leyline of vitality and leyline of anticipation in your hand AND two 0 cmc creatures (Memnite/Ornithopter f.e.), you could tank the lifeloss and beat him down with funny 1/1s. Takes some time but it works i guess.

As soon as I saw the 60 Chancelors my thought was 50+ Nourishing Shoals and a handful of memnites to not lose through decking.

In '93 3rd edition it was 75 black lotus and 75 wheel of fortune.

🤣2:07 That reminds me! Does anyone know which video it was that Nikachu compared Fog to a paper towel? I believe that in the same video he said something about bringing a Fog to a gun fight. I can't find that video and I'm starting to think I dreamt the whole thing. :-/

I used to love playing mtgo it changed so many times an plenty of game modes added but I wasn’t into blowing cash in the digital version of the game, used to love playing vintage also vanguard Mo/Sto/Jo and plainswalker game mode

Hahaha this was pretty wild.

I believe this is now my favorite challenge you gave the magic the gathering community! No way i would have beat you! I think x4 too much 😂 Hope to see you in las vegas in September for magic 30 the return!

I think the best way to go about this format is to just have a small package dedicated to not losing to things like chancellor of the dross and then you are free to do whatever with the rest of the deck. I am sure this is not the best thing you can do, but you could run a deck of, say, 10 nourishing shoal, 15 worldspine worm, and 35 black lotuses with the idea of playing the worldspine worm for your win condition while being immune to decking and having lifegain. Ultimately, I think you will end up with two combo decks playing against each other with a lot of counterspells (like mindbreak trap) and a small package of cards to not lose to chancellor of the dross. (As a side note, cards that let you get a card from outside of the game seem like they could be really powerful in this format, as you can literally get any card with it.)

Tbh this shit reminded me hearthstone taverl brawls where you can only pick 2 cards but it fills your deck with 15 of each.

The answer to this riddle is running a deck where half of it is Elvish Spirit Guide and the other half is Healing Leaves. It's not like this is a new riddle or anything. This has been known for like a decade now.

After seeing this, I've been thinking about the possibility of an even more powerful version where you're able to select your starting hand, effectively taking out all the RNG. Both players would likely play Leyline of Anticipation and be trying to turn 0 combo on top of each other on the stack. Not sure exactly what the ruleset would be. Is a 7 card deck allowed? Can we still use 60 copies of the same creature, or only 4? Would you be able to select your entire starting deck, or only your opening hand? One way to think about it could be that you're playing normal rules for your deck building, but you get infinite mulligans (so you can basically just mul til you get the right hand) and thus you effectively get to choose the starting hand. However, I feel like the format would be more interesting if you could also order the rest of your deck - It would mean that it would entirely be in the hands of both player's strategy, rather than having topdecks ever matter. With no restriction on card # or deck size the first idea that came to mind for me is player 1 playing 5x pact of negation, 1x lotus, 1x thoracle with player 2 playing 4x pact of negation, 1x leyline of anticipation, 1x lotus, 1x thoracle, with one more pact of negation in the deck player 2 would win if it ever got to their turn by drawing a card and thus gaining card advantage. note that if player 1 played leyline of anticipation they would actually be losing because both sides would be even and whoever played combo first would just get played on top of, thus people would keep passing. But here, player 1 has enough counterspells to beat player 2. However, if only 4 copies of a card are allowed, things become more tricky. You can't run 5x pact of negation, and running force of will is bad since you lose card advantage. Of course with 60 card decks, this might end up being irrelevant, as you'd need to play more than a 1 card combo anyway. The most interesting way to structure the format would probably be either 60 card decks of any cards at all with full deck order selection in mulligan phase, or 60 card decks with vintage rules with full deck order selection in mulligan phase. you'd probably just run a 15 card sideboard, but i think a lot of games would be handled without even needing the sideboard, as you could completely reshape your initial hand to use entirely different cards based on the matchup.

Love your videos, bro.

i would do 15 Memnites, 20 Chancellor of the dross, 10 Nourishing Shoal, 10 Worldspine Wurm, and 5 Force of Despair. Running the 10 Worldspine wurms is literally just so you draw any of them with a Nourishing Shoal.

Would leyline of combustion work with this? For each chancellor you'd take 14 damage if it triggers but I'm not sure if it would be triggered by it.

Just like Richard Garfield intended? I never would have thought of this ridiculous win condition.

back when i used to play, the stack rule was slightly different. it didn't matter whose turn it was. if you played something, then anything that was played in response to it was resolved first. but even then, if i deal enough damage to defeat you, you don't actually die until the end of that step/phase so you could turn around a defeat me and it would either be a draw or you'd gain the life to survive. The way this would have played out back in my day would be.. he would go first deal 21 damage to you, but in response you would do the same. at the end of that resolution you both would be back to 20 {20 - 21 +21 = 20) and then the game would go one until someone decked themselves first.

He answered my questions as they entered my brain

I would probably do something like 10 leyline of anticipation, 22 black lotus, 23 wheel of fortune, 1 emrakul, 1 blossoming calm, 1 angel's grace, 1 cling to dust. Might want to workshop it a bit more but that's my plan.

So does this program just give you every card to use from the get go?? Cause that's what I'm looking for: the Edopro of MTG.

Shoulda used impervious greatwurm! Gain 18! Or16? I cant remember 😂nice video

I thought you actually made a deck of the turn 0 and turn 1 cards I actually thought it was gonna be something insane lol 😂 60 copies of dross wow.

_counterspell here! ggs and thanks for being a homie deck had 16 chancellors and 12 reanimate spells along with rituals and lands + imps. figured that was a good enough spread to have one chancellor reveal to get game 1 and a fair chance to reanimate turns 1-3 in any other case.

Seeing as how the deck sizes are also kinda small sometimes, you could have a 7 card deck, turn 0 Leyline of Anticipation, Lotus, Thassa’s Oracle. Or a hand of 4 Chancellors of the Dross + 2 Soul Spike to be fancy.

i lost to the chancellor deck at some random "anything goes" tournament at an anime convention. nobody bothered to explain what "anything goes" meant so i just assumed it meant any set from throughout magic history, and no ban list. i was LIVID seeing those 7 chancellor of the dross. i knew immediately the guy had to have known the "tournament" organizer, because how else would he know to make/bring that deck? fortunately, there was no entry fee.

Question that I can’t seem to get a definitive answers to: after attackers and blockers have been declared can a protection spell on a selected attacker deselect blockers after they were selected to block?

Man this one guy had coalition honor guard kill enchantments with buy back kill monsters with buy back monster comes into play to exile monster and take monsters from graveyards combo with gain life

30 Chancellor of the Dross, 30 Black Lotus. I believe as long as my starting hand contains one Chancellor, I should survive, though it does depend on the order the effects would take place. I drain you for 3, going up to 23, then lose 21, leaving me with 2. Once I survive that opening turn, you can do nothing, but by using 3 Black Lotus, I can actually play a Chancellor and attack until I finish you off.

2:40 a format that's essentially a competitive coin flip. Congratulations, you've invented Yugioh

Where did you go!? Felt like you disappeared! Need more videos!

This is the funniest thing I have seen today

It's interesting, because he changed the rock deck to be able to beat other rock decks and paper too !

You can play, i suppose, play about 10 copies of simian spirit guide, 45 copies of mana morphose, a few ancestral recalls, and a grapeshot. some pact of negations in the sideboard. EDIT: and because i forgot, a flash for thassa's oracle for the lifegain deck. Win the game turn 0.

nice vid :D

What website are you playing on??

The fact that you got beat by a guy called counterspell is just perfect

Well, I'd beat all 3 decks with leyline of anticipation, a shitton of ancestral recall, black lotus and a single fireball. Get a opening hand with leyline, gives all my stuff flash. Drop the lotus into recall, draw 3 and probably more lotus and recall. Eventually I'll have a ton of mana and a giant fireball. Do this in response to the dross triggers. Fireball is also bigger than the maybe 30 lifegain, asnd easily beats the memnites.

Would I be able to respond to the first chancellor going onto the stack at the beginning of the first upkeep? I would exile spirit guides, cast manamorphosis to get white mana and then cast angel's grace to put a split second ability on the stack. At that point nothing else can go on the stack and perhaps only one dross would get to go through and it would counter the rest? Then at that point you would just draw until you had enough spirit guides to exile and cast one.. and beat in with a bear until you win.

Bubble hulk should sort this out in turn 1 or 0...?