Considering the guy is Bajoran, I do wonder just what kind of supersoldier he was during the occupation...

@@myriadmediamusings That's a good question.

@@myriadmediamusings I'd like to think that Shaxs murdered a hell of a lot of Cardassians during the occupation of Bajor.

He's the reason they withdrew in the first place, they were losing too many soldiers, and probably ships, too. WhoamIkidding, it was the ships. So many ships.

@@myriadmediamusings i really want him to be the protagonist in a wolfenstein style game beating the shit out of fascist cardassians

What am I missing here

Does it have to do with the TNG episode Tapestry?

@@royalpancakes7807 he's saying that theoretically speaking, the command crew that folds in poker are people who are not prone to taking risks and are more likely to do things the safe way. However, if the command crew member can afford to go all in, then it shows that they are people who are not afraid to take risks. You know, Kirk going against the no-win scenario or in that episode The Corbomite Maneuver where Kirk bluffed aliens in believing that his ship can easily destroy theirs. Kirk was a guy who knew when it was necessary to take risks so by that definition, he would be a guy who knows how to bluff in poker. But these guys are way too safe and would not be on Kirk's level when it comes to critical situations.

@@Inspectornills thank you oh fair startrek scholar

@@Inspectornills arguably the best captains, like all the ones we see on the show, know when to take risks and modify protocol to survive. Imagine if this crew were in the Delta Quadrant up against the borg. How long before each and every one of them would be plugging into alcoves?

Two jobs ago I noticed all the managers were uniformly miserable. Last minute fires, toxic executives and asinine meetings meant they lived in a constant state of crisis. One day my boss said I should consider taking a new manager opening. I instead got a different job.

@@Silversmok3 Thats why I like working as an Electrician for a contractor everyone understands to respect esch other and those who have been there longer and to respect the boss most of all and its pretty good from there since its not like working for a company that has a set ladder and hierarchy where the owners of the business are to focused on the grandeur and illusion of wealth to respect or appreciate their staff and upper staff.

But like, she was an officer before too?

@@mandarinduck Yeah and she hated it so much she got intentionally demoted.

@@pocketheart1450 I mean like the lowest rank in the show is an Ensign, which is still an officer rank. Lower than that would be enlisted, of which there aren't any in this show for some reason.

Mariner looks good, PERIOD... 🥰😍

Typical palette swap thing 😛

I was trying to explain to my wife about how entirely accurate this show is to the real military haha

may God have mercy on you Captain. I Salute you🙋‍♂️

How bad does it get when promoted to colonel?

@@djargus It's good because it's incredibly difficult, but bad because you'll barely ever fly again.

You know Sir, it does explain a lot. And here we in the Navy genuinely weren't sure if the Chair Force was the right term for you all. I'm relieved to have official confirmation that we were spot on all along. Hoo yah.

Didn't he have a back injury, hence the 'Riker lean' (and sitting on bar stools in a non regulation fasion?) He did, don't argue, google just told me. And as we all know, google knows everything.

@@jockmcscottish7569 Chill man

@@kurtwagner2054 pretty sure everyone was being sarcastic /s s = serious

DS9 Odo got Quark to get rid of barstools.

@@jockmcscottish7569 Yeah, hence the “Riker Maneuver”, cause the chairs were so low he was so tall, he could just step over them to sit down, and do the same to get up. It was easier than bending down

Ah, that's why Kim never got promoted

And, of course, they don’t have currency in star fleet, so it’s not like you even get paid more

Eh through my experience being a manager means you get to dunk on those beneath for a higher wage. Money roles uphill, shit roles down.

@@theAEDan That's not how it works in the military. You're all a team, no one is dunking on anyone and shit absolutely rolls uphill, THEN back down.

Canonically the higher officers get thier own private quarters and from this episode they OBVIOUSLY get more free time. So yeah I would be gunning for promotion, not sure why Boimler is though.

Nothing wrong with a little bit of trolling 😂

@@Beckwourth Its charming right up until you see the second last episode of the season. Yikes.

​@@CabbageSandwichher mom is a narcissistic yikes machine

@@CabbageSandwich Mariner really beat herself up over her mother issues.

@@christopherg2347 LOL She sure did.

In Terran Empire they have agonizers, and in Federation they have Executive Poker...

@@shaftoe195 "Shire Baggins!!! SHIRE BAGGINS!!"

@@shaftoe195 in the Kelvin Mirror universe they propably have both and the really bad officers get both at the same time

Mandatory Fun.

I think Freeman did that on purpose. If the poker game was fun, Mariner would enjoy it.

Difference between working on the Enterprise vs working on what would be considered a background ship.

I just recently watch that ep of DS9 from when everyone was hounding Obrein to fix something for them.

Best to stay a lowly maintenance tech who no one knows.

But the lower you are the sooner your sent up against the rebel’s A Team and die.

Heheh. Vodder. ... Fader?

Good thing this isn’t Star Wars.

Didn't know Vader was part of star trek

That's why O'Brian stayed a Chief. On DS9 it was was implied by Sisko and later confirmed by O'Brian that he intentionally sabotaged his commission multiple times.

@@coyoteannabis1192 And that's yet another reason that The O'Brien was the most important person in Starfleet history. (officially confirmed in Lower Decks, but I always knew.)

As a retired warrant officer, I concur with your father. No one really knew what I did and if I didn't want to go to a staff meeting, I didn't, and no one had a problem with it. When I stated my opinion, everyone assumed I was the expert and didn't contradict me. I was a field grade warrant, so I got the benefits of a field grade officer, too. Warrant officer...best damn rank in any service! (Sorry, not sorry, Air Force!)

@@danielharvison7510 Funny how everyone tends to forget Montgomery Scott...

Why Beckett didn't want to be promoted?

You forgot about space tennis, they did some of that, sometimes

@@alphaecho-juliet6884 racquet ball

Tachyon Tee space racquet ball

@@alphaecho-juliet6884 Remember how Chief O'Brien couldn't lose because something about neutrinos or something like that? Poor Julian was losing over and over.

Tachyon Tee yeah lmao, if you think about it that’s over powered

Took the words out of my mouth. 2nd.

were u happy or shock

Oh god you poor soul

Jesus. Sorry about that.

Did you have to do meetings in scat music?

Reminds me of when I got promoted to shift manager at McDonald’s.

star trek corbomite maneuver showed a glimpse of what a typical day in deep space looks like. star mapping. cataloging anomalies surveys of planets if it's class M. basically you're mapping mapping and more mapping. for those that are lucky like the enterprise or select hero ships like discovery, cerritos, voyager, titan etc. you will encounter things that are the "fun exctigin action" that could make you famous. or you could spend your entire assignment doing just that star mapping. cataloging anomalies surveys of planets if it's class M.

Meanwhile in Warhammer 40k........ Travel in space?..........may the Emperor protect me and let vengeance guide my bolter against the filthy Xeno.

@@Mr-Ad-196 Also 40k: Random chance to just disappear for decades when the warp hiccups.

@@milamberarial And thats on top of the usual mass casualties warp travel encompasses. Every. Single. Time.

That's just military service in general. For every hour you spend actually doing something, anything at all, there's at least 4 of sitting around and throwing rocks.

Honestly i agree. Ill never watch this show, but I think the Cat Lady is a great idea, and is hilarious from a character design pov

@@bird9230 doctor t'ana, that's her name

@Time Traveller hmm Caitian???? This one thought she was a Khajiit,no.... hehehe

@@kharjo8099 She's a Khajiit who achieved Chim, and thus was able to transcend time, space, and multiple universes just to end up as a snarky ship's doctor in Starfleet. Works for me!

@@danielharvison7510 Or maybe this is what happens if you _zero-sum_ during your attempt to achieve CHIM. 🤣

People tend to have really specific standards, forged by their disliking of the current stuff

It is a good comedy animation absolutely. These are people who for some reason formed their identity around "nerd culture" things. Now that it is becoming more and more mainstream they get upset and look for things to hate.

I have heard very few negative reviews, which might actually make it the most well received star trek show in history.

@@theyux1 Ahh, can't let the haters know that. I really like Lower Decks too, it's a lot of fun.

@@theyux1 And Look on the bright side, Lower decks helps expend TNG era from DS9 to VOY world building, unlike Picard who only focus on insignificant things.

Pretty sure Marriner tried, but her mom called HER mom (four star fleet admiral) to make sure her grandbaby would be 'safe.'

@@singletona082 Mariner's grandma, huh? No wonder I became the Beckette Mariner of my house. My mom is unbearable when she's at home. More so than Carol! And that's WAY before Lower Decks premiered on Paramount+! I feel Mariner's pain now.

And only fear

I literally had a meeting about chair design when we were building the new research lab. It was physically painful. 2 hours. Ugh.

@@FJF1085 I had one on benches for new research lab. People settled on one of those adjustable surface tables. Really thought that was a waste of time, wanted more refrigerators but lost that.

@@nickl5658 given the choice I'd have taken the refrigerators... can you have too many refrigerators in a lab? I feel like the answer is no. I also feel like we're always short on -20/30 space.

MOS? Just curious what that stands for in this context. My mind always jumps to “motor-only sync” but I seriously doubt that’s it

@@martyjackson4166 Military Occupational Specialty. Basically what your job is in the armed forces. Mariner went from Command (red uniform) to Ops (yellow uniform).

Problem is Mariner could become a great officer, Kirk style. But because ppl like her exists we have terrible captains to fill the ranks like Dayton

Boy have I got news for you.

captain spends most of the series raging. First officer is an airhead and the others aren't that great.

@@elyaskiritsis3115 Heh, he came back faster than Brian on Family guy.

@@LordTalax Captian has ego issues, Ransom is ass kisser, Shaxs is hillarious and really background, T’Ana is a parody of Bones with so much swearing. Meanwhile Mariner is emotionally broken daughter of Starfleet’s Captian and Admiral, Boimler is naive and green, but he wants the Captian seat right away. Tendi wants to be chief medical officer and brake the Orion stereotype, Rutherford just loves everything engineering. That is how the characters were portayed BEFORE they go through arcs. And of course its a comedy show so you can expect these personalities. I honestly want to see how they finish their arcs. I am so invested in these characters, because they have flaws. ST discovery would be great if Burnham wasn’t so good at everything and the show was set in the future from the very start.

T’Ana is my favorite, personally. It’s always fun seeing Caitian characters and Inlike her being this grumpy mom every time she’s working. Really hope to see more of her Arc in Season 3. Id like to see Ransom develop more too: I kinda know where Freeman, Shax, T’Ana, and the chief engineer (Phillips?) can go with their arcs, but not Ransom

I think at least some of them were homages to the _Star Trek II_ score, specifically the "Botany Bay?!"/"This is Ceti Alpha V!"/brainworm scenes.

@@fmitchell238a That's actually really funny, if we imagine the boredom and misery of officer life to be the 'brain worm' crawling into her head.

brads dream is to make captain and well to see mariner get promoted to him would probably give him a panic attack.

basically more work

That's basically her whole character.

Yes your are so right

But he never got promoted while Tom got demoted and re-promoted! Even Nog out ranked him and Harry graduated from the Academy before him!

@@chansophonlong I'm pretty sure in this metaphor, Boimler is Kim and Marriner is Paris

Robert Yep.

Janeway: “Harry, since we return to earth. You are now promoted” Harry: “YES!” Janeway: “As a Senior Ensign” Harry: “WHAT! WHAT THE FUCK!”

you are essentially a department head. you have to supervise everyone in your section.

i preferred if star trek had up or out. for example TOS/TNG just never made much sense in that the senior staff served together for years on end at a time. (im talking in universe) or for example you had that tng episode tapestry where alternate picard was a lt jr grade when he's 60+ years old? like O_O

@@joeswanson733 I mean, then you run the risk of getting rid of perfectly competent people that reached their level of ability. Promoting them beyond that may put them out of their depth and getting rid of them means you've gotten rid of someone that was doing a good job.

@@joeswanson733 They could never do the up and out in Star Fleet. The Federation is simply too large and ships can be out in space for years. Plus they have more than enough ships they probably wouldn't be able to fill every spot if they were forcing people out constantly in an up or out scheme. We don't see it on screen for budget reasons but Star Fleet has to have thousands of ships in order to patrol Federation space and to go beyond Fed space and explore. (this is the same issue in Star Wars... If just one percent rebelled against the Empire that would be, roughly, 10 trillion people... of course we'd never see that many fighting for budget reasons) Also culturally speaking the Federation and Star Fleet are not the up or out type organizations. They just don't have that mindset. They would look at that as old thinking.

@@dungeonguy88 actually what I don't like is perfectly capable people hogging their spot and stunting other people career paths.

@@zombieshoot4318 I would agree that most starfleet officers would be perfectly suited for their roles or rank but certain characters like Kirk for example I think he was too good for being a regular old starship captain. Or he should have rotate to other ships to whip other junior officers /enlistees Into shape. I liked it when Kirk was chief of starfleet operations in tmp as for a exemplary 5 years mission he deserved that promotion but that's just my take for that character and those type of superstar character.. hence janeway getting promoted to vice admiral ..makes sense

Officer of lieutenant rank get their own quarters Mariner doesnt like being alone. I think it has to do with being trapped in a sentiant empathic cave for two weeks. It knows stuff 😂

She was also scared of ordering people to their death ptsd from the dominion war

We would have a better show to watch.

A trip to Vulcan to mind meld with a therapist is in order

@@mastermonarch A competent therapist could do wonders for the crew. It seems that, apart from having some disfunction, just about every member of the Cerritos is actually really good at their job. It's just the ships therapist, the one that is supposed to address their disfunction, is the only one that isn't good at his job.

I'm pretty sure they already working on a script for that. I hope they don't copy South Park with that beard thing.

You can. It's called The Orville.

@@AlexSeverinski The Orville is the mirror universe for Lower Decks? That's... Weird.

@@Veridiano02 The Orville is everything Lower Decks wants to be but isn't: a well written comedy show with actual humor and characters whom aren't either one note jokes or the BESTEST EVAR!

The I.S.S. Cerritos' mission (as opposed to the U.S.S. Ceritos' mission of second contact) is to finalise conquests. Their job is to either land more shock troops on a planet to help reinforce the existing human occupying armies on a planet or to re-dominate the planet! As a result the I.S.S. Cerritos is a giant warship, one of the newest, largest and deadliest in the fleet! (Think Khan's ship in Star Trek Into Darkness.) However the ship is in total crap condition due to lackluster management and maintenance. Alt Mariner is a emotionally reserved person who is always polite to a fault yet is a go-getter who always presents a "regular universe Tendi like" optimism and works hard everyday to eventually become a captain. However she constantly has to deal with her career being sabotaged and damaged by her scheming mother Alt Captain Freeman. Being reassigned to work with Alt Freeman is her hell! In secret though Mariner is a cold blooded amoral schemer and backstabber just like her mother. At the end of the episode she ends up taking over the Cerritos and being brave enough to be open about her bloodlust and her naturally selfish, angry and pessimistic personality! Alt Captain Freeman is a quiet reserved person who nonetheless will betray you at a moment's notice for petty reasons. If regular universe Freeman is sort of a no-nonsense straight shooting Black American woman with a heart of gold and a spine of steel, then Alt Freeman is a frivolous constantly obtuse stone hearted woman who is weak willed. At the end of the episode Alt Captain Freeman dies due to like a falling metal beam or something caused by damage to the ship during an attack by a would be alien uprising on a planet. With her last words she admits to her daughter Mariner that she constantly sabotaged Mariner's career in order to '"forge her into sharpened steel", to get her to be more outgoing and brash and make her more strong willed. Alt Boimler is an idiot who nonetheless is confident and self assured to the point of being cocky and headstrong. After his failure during a standard shift at the sentry post (due to him constantly doing push ups instesd of watching the screen) leads to the landed ship being sneak attacked by uprising aliens, the new captain Mariner forces him to either read up on the ship's technical manuals and work harder at his job or get reassigned to cleaning toilets. Mirror Universe Tendi is a psychopathic alternate universe Orion who is a sex slave for the male crew on the ship. (Even in the alt universe though it's not okay to have sex with the sex slave if she's not feeling it. Even in the Terran Empire, there are standards.) Alt Tendi cannot seem to overcome being a stereotypical alternate universe actual "slave girl" either back on Orion or on the ship. (The male Orions of the Mirror Universe rebelled against and conquered their pheromone expelling female dominatrixes centuries ago using nose clips and became a sexist male dominated misogynist society as a result.) At the end of the episode though alt Tendi sort of succeeds in bucking the stereotype by becoming the "mascot" of the engineering department. (In truth she secretly dominates the engineering department with an iron fist!) Alt Rutherford is an idiot who hates his job in engineering and only took it because he did not know what he wanted to do with his life. Also he hates and mistrusts machines, which is why he gave himself a bio-engineered brain implant so that he would never be at the mercy of machines. He's also an uptight asshole who gets worked up about everything. He does have a very romantic relationship with Alt Tendi though, as seen in their regular vigorous make out sessions! However when he goes to Tendi for a make out session he carelessly leaves his ID card into and out of the "sex room" in a place where she can get to it. Later she escapes to engineering and after her "daily pheromone suppressing shot" wears off she brainwashes the engineering crew into convincing them to build her an apartment unit in the engineering bay and make her the "alien mascot" (in truth the ruler) of the department. Now being mentally controlled by Alt Tendi and the constant feeling in their pants, Alt Rutherford and the other engineers now have a greater work ethic then ever before! (Alt Mariner and Alt Boimler decide not to do anything about this since Alt Tendi seems content just ruling the engineering department and they can't argue with the increased efficiency.) Billups in particular is overjoyed at having Tendi be his new dominatrix, since now he'll be able to have more sex then ever before!

She knew what it was like. He just hates it. It's pretty well established at this point.

@@shaftoe195 this is the first time i enjoyed something from this show... watching that binge suffer.

Velcro stripes?

@@hokutoulrik7345 Best kind of stripes.

Or was it necessary to be promoted two ranks to be included in all the activities with the senior crew?

@@jdraven0890 A promotion to Jr Grade Lieutenant would've been enough as Tom Paris, Belana Torres (Voyager), Julian Bashir, and Ezri Dax (DS9) all held that rank and were considered part of the senior staff.

@@DavidChilson Must have been a reinstatement, as you speculated

She might have got her rank back. We still have not found out what Mariner did to get demote and transferred. .

Should've at least kept her at J.G.

i'm actually curious just how much can the captain grant a promotion from his/her own authority without a review board? lt? lt commander?

@@cosmeticscameo8277 Riker did give Shelby a field promotion to Commander. Troi had to take a test.

@@gedias1 but are field promotions temporary? like brevet promotions. it would seem kind of odd that a captain can promote a lt commander to commander and be a permanent promotion.

@@cosmeticscameo8277 Probably is temporary. Riker himself had a field promotion to Captain, before going back to his old rank.

hey!! I’ve notice you do comments like this on a lot of these lower decks videos, and can I just say I absolutely love them? I’m slightly new to the Star Trek fandom and I love your breakdowns and headcanons and the way you pay attention to all of the little details in each episode that bring it to life. Keep up your amazing work!!

@@juliaolson6696 ~ Thank you kindly. *:)* 1. *_Fandom_** ~* Star Trek is one of my particular (nerd-)passions, so I enjoy being able to expound upon the subject (especially during these 2020 pandemic times). It also helps that Technology has progressed to the point where I can have draft my (admittedly long) Comments on an e-tablet, but easily switch it to Standby (or Low Power Mode) and leave it lying about when I am called to work-/parent-duty; then later, I can return and continue drafting, editing, &/or posting. It is great to live in *_'The Future,_* isn't it...? *;)* 2. *_Attention to Detail(s)_** ~* I, like most older ST-nerds, do wind up watching ST:LD (among the other "Nu Trek", or "Modern Trek" as Alex Kurtzman prefers to label it) with a critical eye. However, I try to avoid just saying _"it sucks!";_ if I am going to put a negative-critique Comment out, I also try to put _"why"_ as well. 3. *_Canons & Conflicts..._* - a.) *Alpha ~* In-general, I try to stick with _'Alpha'_ (official) Canon, or at least lead with it. Hard to argue against "hard" Canon, after all. *;)* - b.) *Beta ~* As a counter-balance however, I do often make use of _'Beta'_ Canon (NON-official, but generally accepted by the ST-community). This becomes a fairly common occurrence since ST:LD apparently draws a lot upon *Star Trek Online* (MMO-RPG) content (which I used to play, albeit many years ago). But there are other _'Beta'_ sources as well (toys, novels, other ST video games, etc.). - c.) *Gamma ~* It is _'Gamma'_ Content (ZERO Canon, such as personal "head-canons", fan-fictions, 'shippings, etc.) that I try my best to avoid &/or stay away from. Though self-admittedly, I am not a perfect record in that regard either... _{cough-cough-[Rutherford+Tendi 'ship]-cough-cough}_ *;p* I am glad you enjoy my Comment(aries). As Surak taught, _"Logic is only the beginning of 'The Path.' Wisdom awaits you at its end."_ *:)*

@@pendrake40 I haven't seen Lower Decks take anything specifically from Star Trek Online, but "alpha canon" is whatever is shown in the television shows or movies. Beta canon is licensed works like books and video games (like Star Trek Online). However, if any aspects of beta canon are mentioned in a show or movie, it becomes alpha canon. Example: U.S.S. Titan was never seen in alpha canon, but beta canon hammered down an appearance for it. Lower Decks showed U.S.S. Titan and BAM, that moved from beta canon to alpha canon.

@@ElPayasoMalo ~ You are partly correct. To expound &/or clarify... 1. *_"Alpha" Canon_** ~* _'Alpha'_ Canon is the 'hard' Canon for Star Trek. It is fully Official and set for the ST-'verse. This primarily comprises of the TV series and the films. 2. *_'Beta' Canon_** ~* _'Beta'_ Canon is heavily based upon 'Alpha' Canon, in that it tries to stay within the bounds of 'Alpha' Canon. - a.) *Licensing & Loss ~* 'Beta' Canon generally consists of licensed ST-products. However, such licenses can expire (most common occurrence) or be rendered null (less common, but does happen often enough) as 'Alpha' Canon changes &/or RetCons things, thus negating even 'Beta' status. - b.) *Lead into Gold ~* However, as you said, the reverse can happen as well, albeit far more uncommonly (or rarely). Something 'Beta' can be made into 'Alpha' if used in TV &/or films. 3. *_History of the Titan(s)_** ~* A rough timeline of the USS Titan and its Canonicity... - a.) *2002 - ST(-10): Nemesis ~* The denouement of ST(-10): Nemesis briefly talks about Commander William Riker finally taking-up a Captain-promotion and given command of the USS Titan. - b.) *2005(-2017) - ST: Titan* (novel series) *~* The USS Titan is broadly described and semi-depicted, but not fully codified. - c.) *2010* (to present 2021) *- Star Trek Online (STO) ~* The USS Titan's starship-class is fully codified (see below); said codification is generally accepted by the majority of ST-community, despite being _'Beta'_ Canon. - d.) *2020 - ST: Lower Decks ~* The USS Titan makes its appearance in *[LD 1x10 - "No Small Parts],* becoming fully _'Alpha'_ Canon. 4. *_ST:LD and STO_** ~* Having played STO for years before I stopped (due to work and parenting), I do see many light &/or tangential draws of ST:LD from STO. Which is understandable since STO is still "only" a licensed ST-product, and has changed game-company ownership several times. Still, STO is considered one of the most stable 'Beta' Canon sources in the ST-community (11+ years running), so it also is a good source for inspiration for ST:LD. *;)* Hope this help clarify. *:)*

@@pendrake40 The U.S.S. Titan's appearance was established in the Star Trek: Titan novels that started in 2005, which is where Star Trek Online took the appearance of the Luna-class vessel. I am a current and long-time player of Star Trek Online, and I haven't seen anything in Lower Decks specifically taken from Star Trek Online, but rather things established in beta canon novels decades ago.

Because Captain's Mariner is a fleet admiral.

She was trying to get Mariner to quiet XD

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The Captain probably ordered them to play that way to make it boring for Mariner.

"Have fun making sure none of them die! Remember, anything that happens to them is YOUR FAULT!"

That's because starting in TNG, the red shirts became the yellow shirts, and the yellow shirts became the red shirts.

Because everyone needs a Shax

The third pip was just corn

he should be. mariner got token promotion.

@@cosmeticscameo8277 And Mariner didn't want that promotion, judging by the fear in her eyes.

Bruh, it's Star Trek, you can't expect the characters to be that rational and mature!

You expect an insubordinate to know that.

it was propably so unexpected she didnt thing about it

@@JoducusKwak Yeah, let's go with that

It's a cartoon, dude.