i wonder if he meant half a second per person. which means if there were 60 people there, he took off an entire 30 seconds

Well, that's how thing progress. Somebody tries to improve things by a small margin. Then the next guy improves that, and two or three improvements later, some guy 'makes a breakthrough', by consolidating the improvements. And thus progress is made.

Every half a second counts in life or death situations.

without that half second off he would have beamed up a lotta corpses... so rutherford was responsible for saving ALL of them :D

It took him several seconds just to get to that transporter... was there something the normal one couldn't do here?

True. I really dislike that they could have used this episode to show why talented people should be forced to move up the chain of command instead of asked because this ship's Captain was obviously not the first choice and she only got the job because no one else was willing to. Mariner could have been the captiain of this ship and she would 't have gotten its crew killed...

Those characters aren't in that movie.

I mean, she did ended up dying in space right? A few episodes further ahead, holy fuck that death scene…… should’ve chosen another career if you didn’t wanted to die in space!

@@fightingpromiss that was kinda on her. She didn't think about anything, just reacted and it ended up getting her entire crew killed.

That kind of behavior will get you killed in space

If it were proper Star Trek he'd be strolling down the hallway with a slightly agitated pace and an extreme lack of chill.

Maybe if they weren't wasting time gabbing about their personal arguments then they could have beamed sooner

"I can do that! I CAN DO THAT"

​@@raideurng2508 I miss Anton Yelchin.

Isn't it great that Boimler now has two things named after him? The Boimler Effect and Boiming Up.

@@spyrofan9681 Right?! lol

I didn’t catch that when I watched it either. But Boimler said it too right before he phased.

That honestly makes sense. Some people just don't like the added responsibilities a promotion comes with.

I was Navy and I feel this.

That was the case with Admiral/Captain Kirk back in TOS Movies too.

"With great power comes great responsibility." "Well F*CK YOUR POWER THEN."

@@psychronia With regular power, comes not being a huge dick.

Kind of like _The Orville._

@@theborgqueen6891 But damn if it doesn't got the heart of what made the older Star Trek shows great!

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's actually canon

it is 100% canon

Yeah this isn't a parody, its a legit star trek show haha

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"Solid?" That was a joke about Hortas, right?

@@gedias1 no, they're too metal for that.

We did get rock people, but still no Horta.

I think she was wiping dust off her clothes. With the other ship being destroyed, they probably got a lot of dust on their clothing and some of it may have been transported with them. Alternatively, she might've been straightening out her clothes (like getting rid of some creases and/or folds).

@@happy_amoeba doesn't look like that to me. I think she was basically testing her body's current state to see if there's any cause for actual alarm, other than being translucent, luminous and making an ear grating sound.

@@Timeward76 fair enough

Well, one of the Data/Lore/Borg incident happened in 2370 and the show is set in 2380, so Mariner could've served in the Dominion War, which was 2373-2375

@@thedelta4258 ye that alone would explain a lot of why she doesn't want to deal with promotions. Honestly I never knew the timeline of this show until now XD

ShadowWriter45: What more do you want? She was a complete Mary Sue; but she was SO smart that she realized how STUPID everyone ELSE is, since she wasn't the supreme ruler of everything; and so she just got tired of how stupid everyone else is.

@@kenburns4547 so she's doing kirk (promotions leads to situations where you don't personally make a difference)?

@@targetseeker I don't talk to ass-hats.

I never realized that...

Dayton and Mariner are the reason why Starfleet is a bad organization. Because talented people like Mariner choose to be postpone their talented leadership and Dayton who aren't ready choose to take the promotion without being ready. And Starfleet allows this kind of waste of potential.

Yeah, that didn't age well, huh...

I would LOVE to see that! 😂😂

that actually doesnt seem half bad. im all for this lmao

Considering a recent announcement this year... We are getting a cross-over episode with Strange New Worlds.

Oh boy have I got good news for you!

Not everyone feels the need or want to advance so far in such a competitive career, I suppose. Finding the spot where you fit best among the gears is something worth celebrating, even if that spot is not the top.

Whats that?

@@TehF0cus an archaic form of television broadcasts.

You can watch it on Saturday mornings anytime you want 😃

@@TheMrPeteChannel hey, are you calling my ancient childhood archaic?

@@Slopmaster archaic means ancient!

Bridges having actual windows for viewscreen isn't even a bad idea, tactical-wise. If the viewscreen fails entirely, it means you can still see outside and have at least one thing to still be able to navigate by. Even in modern day, ship bridges are exposed instead of buried deep in the hull's armor because situational awareness is worth more than anything else. Can you imagine the nebula battle in Wrath of Khan if they could actually just look out through the inactive viewscreen to see?

@@Timeward76 The combat information center (CIC) of many Navy warships is located below the main deck and is not located in the main bridge. That might change if modern radars can be defeated by new technology, but that's where they track threats, targets, and issue commands to fire weapons. It's kinda like a starship bridge split in two, one for the helm, the other for tactical.

@@MMuraseofSandvich I think it is not entirely correct to compare a federation starship to any warship. They dont make warships after all :P But the bigger starships in starfleet do in fact have a secondary bridge, or "battle bridge" as is sometimes called. Theyre just not commonly used because the normal bridge is often good enough for most things, and starfleet is rarely anticipating battle. When they DO anticipate battle, the battle bridge does come in handy. But given that the main bridge is usually the one used for most things, having an actual window I'd still a tactical trade off.

​@@Timeward76Isn't the battle bridge just on the Galaxy class, and only really used for flying the drive section when they split the ship?

Rimmer!

@@yseson_ Dear Lord there are two of them now! The Q must evacuate the universe!

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I don’t even think those two were is it enlisted or commissioned officers mariner and boimler are at least ensigns.

The reason it was shatter in real life they just plot device but in universe because pressure of the breaking ship was too strong

Oh yeah, a Rigelian, i see! I was wondering what that was!

You mean the monster living inside the walls? It kind of looks like it, but they behave differently.

It's from the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, actually - WAY earlier!

I'm sure her parents insisted that she go to the Academy Besides, whether enlisted even exist in Star Trek is pretty unclear (the best explanation is that enlisted are only accepted in wartime and are sent home or to the Academy when the war ends).

@@billymanners9629 Actually starfleet always has enlisted personnel, Chief O'Brien is at the highest ranked enlisted officer rank for example. But you're definitely right about her parents.

Sometimes, you have people commission out of pressure, when all along they should have been NCOs.

@@johnmccarron7066 Yeah, so she would have been Chief Mariner, sounds good

But it would be nice to see Boimler get a moment of heroism. Not because he's a male, but because it would be nice to see capability in him.

@@DavidBDavis-lz7bt Like the "But I got a Phaser!"-moment in episode 3? The episode where Boimler excels at his tasks when everybody else cannot cope with the workload? And then is the one that actually talks the captain out of that timing-nonsense?

Rigelian. They were first (and last) seen in Enterprise.

During the Dominion War? Yeaaah. Definitely. Especially front-line vessels (and they were pretty much ALL Front-line vessels, especially after the Breen orbital-struck Earth that one time). This is post-Nemesis though, and Starfleet has shown a (marginal) return to a pre-war status. The padded grey/black uniforms are out, in favour of the less-agressive more colourful fair, and people are joining back up to Explore, not to Defend/Fight-the-Dominion. Also, the Cerritos isn't a front-line ship by design or mission. The California-class starships are support vessels in function and the Cerritos is outfitted as a second-contact vessel...so lots of diplomatic and technical-uplift/support duty with a side of good ol'sciencing and mapping, as it picks up the slack and left-overs made by the battlecruiser/explorers like the Galaxy or the Sovereign or even Nebula, Akira, and the handful of venerable centenarian Excelsiors that managed to survive through the big DW and Borg attacks. The Cerritos herself is probably getting a bit into her years of design relevance, as the California class seems to have a mostly TNG-era Galaxy-stylized features...Akira-esq, at the latest, based on the nacelles. Design wise, the California-class has details that could point to it being a protodesign for the Steamrunner, with the raised wedge on after Saucer section and the compact stardrive/main-deflector section between the nacelles....just cut off a chunk of the saucer's forward parts and chuck the pylons in favour of integrating the front half of the nacelles and bussard collectors into what's left...and viola. Steamrunner.

Doubt that Starfleet was recruiting Romulans at this time.

@@gedias1 Maybe she defected.

Mariner has been demoted. And this is post dominion war and post Wolf 359. So lots of new ship, not a lot of senior bridge crew. So competent people get promoted quickly. I think Mariner had a burnout episode, and now just doesn't want the responsibility to be in charge anymore. Her personality is still to take charge but she doesn't want the responsibility.

Evidence seems to point to Mariner being in her early to mid-30s. My guesses to everyone's age are: Freeman: 55-60, Ransom: 35-40, Shaxs: 55-60, Billups: 35-40, T'ana: Not enough clues yet, acts like a burnt-out 45-year-old trauma doc though; Mariner: 30-35; Rutherford: 26-30; Boimler: 23-24; Tendi: 22-23.

In TOS, Kirk was only in his early-30's. Granted, he was acknowledged as being young for a captain, especially of what was at the time a top-of-the-line starship. But Starfleet does seem to reward talent and accomplishments without getting too hung up over age. Mariner acts like a college student, but she's obviously much older considering the long list of adventures she can rattle off. I'd guess that she's at least 30.

@@redactedrider7606 Boimler made a wrong assumption and she didn't bother to correct him until now (he may not have voiced it until now). The youngest captain in Starfleet history (Tryla Scott) was 28 when she took command of the USS Renegade. So that is a hard lower limit on Mariner's age. She's at LEAST five to six years older than Boimler and more likely 10 years older.

@@katherineberger6329 nog from ds9 was around 22 years old when he made Lieutenant junior grade at the end of ds9 mariner must have entered Starfleet academy at around 16/17 years of age due to her being a military brat for lack of better term

Since when do military ships have children on board?

@@monsterhunter66 since the Enterprise D galaxy class in Startrek the next generation in like 1987 and Starfleet isn’t strictly military it’s more like NASA and the navy

Only the Galaxy class had full families on it.

*@Oldtaku_DD ~* In a broad sense, you are correct. *;)* 1. Yes, Ensigns Bradward Boimler and Beckett Mariner are the same age (according to Boimler), and therefore are also the same age as Captain Amina Ramsey (voiced by the lovely Toks Olagundoye). 2. The difference between Mariner and Boimler is that Mariner was *_born into_* Starfleet, similar to Wesley Crusher; unlike Boimler who (probably) enlisted at whatever age-minimum there is. Unlike Wesley, however, Beckett was raised with Starfleet from an early age (how early has not been specified yet); as opposed to Wesley starting in his late teens. This *_early_* start (rather than a "head" start), combined with her natural talent(s) for Starfleet work, is why Mariner is so proficient in many fields, and also why Mariner has far more field-experience than Boimler. Think of Mariner like Jack Reacher. Reacher was born into the military, raised in the military, trained in a wide-array of military skills since childhood, and (field-)experienced military life as his father (Captain Stan Reacher) moved from posting to posting, all long before Reacher was of-age to be formally enlisted. Thus why Reacher as a character is a _plausible_ badass, especially when it comes to dealing with the military. Unlike Reacher, who left the military, Mariner _remains_ in Starfleet despite her frustrations with some of the rules, protocols, politicking, and even her parents; because Starfleet-life is all Mariner has known, and cannot imagine being anywhere else (also in addition to Mariner still believing in Starfleet's nobler ideals). The positive-strength of Mariner's character is that she is working to find her own way and place in Starfleet, at her own pace, not letting anyone/anything dictate her path. Hope this helps clarify. *:)*

I want this to be a running joke where she has like a flashback to the Enterprise A or something

Some are specualting Boimler could have been a later in life member of Starfleet. Like a non-trad in college. This is why he's focused and sure he's doing what he's supposed to. My buddy said the air force would take him till he was 38... so there is real life precedent.

Just because he thinks it doesn't make it true. I'm going to presume an age gap unless I see on screen proof. Based on her parent's appearances alone she's at least early 30's, which syncs up with a few other things seen so far.

@@Vipre- ~ Not sure if your Reply meant me or *@patsfreak,* but just to (friendly) cover bases... *:)* 1. *_'On-screen'_** ~* Boimler remarks how he and Mariner are the same age during [1x02; "Envoys"], unable to understand how Mariner has so much more field-experience than him (thus the "according to Boimler" part in my earlier Reply-comment). The exact point, I do not recall off-handedly. _{I >think< it was when they were wandering through the bazaar looking for their wayward Klingon general escort? Right now I am too weary to look it up at the moment (coming off a Graveyard Shift of work); if I feel/remember the urge to do so, I may Edit-update this Reply later.}_ 2. Captain Ramsey and Mariner are of the same Starfleet class-generation; so, obviously, they are the same age as well; which is the central point of Ramsey's character for this episode's [1x07] story. Ramsey's story-role in this episode is for character-contrast, to show *_"What Could Have Been",_* had Mariner followed the Path of Ambition/Promotions after Starfleet Academy, as everyone expected Mariner to do. ("We all thought you'd be the first captain from our class.") 3. I think 30's age-bracket may be too far. The Lower Decks crew are meant to be the thematic opposite(s) of the Senior Officers, so they are probably much more youthful (especially Tendi, who is the _"Kid"_ [character theme] of the Lower Decks cast), probably in the _"Young Adult"_ range (whatever that may be in the ST:TNG era). Hope this helps clarify. *:)*

Haters gotta hate. It helps them get through the day

Well, as much as Starfleet likes to pretend that it's a meritocracy, we've seen many times that it's still a bureaucracy. A Sci-Fi bureaucracy, but still one nonetheless. There's still corruption, favoritism, nepotism, and all the usual problems that plague military and government organizations. The Captain of the Rubidoux must have been good at playing politics or knew the right people.

There have been plenty of captains in real life who were good enough during the everyday tasks and did well enough in exercises but turned out to be completely unsuited in an extreme situation. Most airline-pilots never have to make an actual crash-landing so we don't know if they can do it outside a simulator.

To be fair, you’re talking about the someone being the captain of one of these California-class ships. Aside from the general Star Fleet danger of space work, they don’t appear to see a lot of important action or roles. So it would not be the first time in history that someone was just competent enough (with enough time in service) to obtain the rank but placed in a situation where they couldn’t cause too much trouble.

They make literally everyone to a captain. Just look at Star Trek Online.

Oh my god they gave her a brand new ship and she got it destroyed and everyone killed

The transparent aluminium hav never do that

I thought that was just a view screen, not a window to be honest.

Need the drama!

@@shadowhunter0815 they even refer to it as a video screen in TNG

The writers often seem to forget that it's transparent aluminum and not some kind of glass.

Actually even closer to Final Space.

There is such a thing as finding a level you're comfortable at. Sure, you might have the capacity and skills required to rise through the ranks, but you might also find you really enjoy the dynamic and responsibilities of a rank somewhere in the middle or bottom.

The negativity surrounding this show is HIGHLY overstated and frankly, not particularly deserved, I’d say.

Die hard Trekkies need to lighten up

Not as much misandry as some easily-triggered people claim. For example, in "Temporal Edict", Ransom was shown to be every bit as much of a badass as he acts like. As opposed to being a bumbling meathead who's all talk.

Misandry my ass. Where?

@@alphanerd7221 Nowhere that I'm aware of. Might be as idiotic as Mariner being Mariner, just at a male of some sort, regardless of context. There's a hate machine running around the internet these days, and they seize on anything they can to hate on something.

She's not perfect and they show it. It's likely that watching a shape-changing Alien murder her friend and other incidents have really messed with her head.

@@WeAreTheBentusi Locutus of the Borg

@@mauddib7830 Yes, and Picard nearly left Starfleet afterwards. So trauma can negativity impact a Starfleet officer. .see Mat Decker

@@WeAreTheBentusi Almost isn't the same as being allowed to underperform.

That's the problem. Mariner likes the kinds of adventures that she can have in Starfleet because she's an adrenaline junkie. But she hates responsibility and rules, so she tries to stay an ensign. Which wouldn't be a problem if she didn't also demand the kind of respect that senior officers get. She wants the perks, but not the job itself.

If youre missing star trek, watch lower decks

@@airrider-jk9ik Some Trekkers may want more than Lower Decks. If Lower Decks is good for you, I wish you the best. I hope you enjoy it.

@@hemaccabe4292 fair, i really am enjoying, i think its a very impressive feat to make a comedy trek that works, im glad they kept the trek feel in the same way disco and picard did, and to be honest, its the better version of rick and morty

@@airrider-jk9ik Then I wish you the best. Sometime, when you want something to read, maybe Lost Destiny will work for you, look it up. If it doesn't work for you, well, it didn't cost you any more than clicking on a link, www.fanfiction.net/s/13312963/1/Star-Trek-Lost-Destiny-Book-I-Race-of-Death

keep quiet

No, it doesn’t. It’s honestly true to the spirit of Trek and if anything has expanded on the lore.

*@Leonid Andreev...* 1. Captain Amina Ramsey is voiced by the lovely *Toks Olagundoye* (Nigerian actress, British educated), who has played many _"strong female"_ roles (live and voiced). Her current notable (voice) role is that of the formidable Mrs. Beakley, for the rebooted DuckTales (2017 series). 2. Captain Ramsey's presence/role in this episode [1x07] is meant to be for *character-contrasts...* - a.) Captain Ramsey, being the same age, high-skilled competence, & Starfleet Academy class-generation as Mariner, is meant to show *_'What Could Have Been',_* had Mariner followed the path to promotions and Officer-ship (-hood?) after graduating from Starfleet Academy, as everyone (Mariner's friends, classmates, & parents) had expected Mariner to do. - b.) As Captain Ramsey admits, she *_deliberately_* took the boring assignment to "babysit" the USS Cerritos, with the ulterior motive to try to recruit Mariner over to the USS Oakland and make Mariner her XO (Executive Officer) there. However, Ramsey's hidden agenda was done with *_good_* intentions, stemming from her close Friendship with Mariner. From her perspective, Ramsey was unable to comprehend Mariner's inexplicable loss of career-motivation and -ambition after graduating with top-marks at Starfleet Academy; of which, Mariner also helped Ramsey to excel at Starfleet Academy (despite the duo being mischief makers), which led to Ramsey's own (early) Captaincy. Simply put, Ramsey was trying to help her friend Mariner, *_"get back on track."_* Hope this helps clarify. *:)*

@@pendrake40 I figured it was something along these lines. But thank you for a detailed and serious reply. (I feel like they went a little overboard with the fact that she's already a captain. Making her a lt. commander would have been enough to make a point, of how much of an overachiever she is - and just how bad of a screwup ensign Mariner is, by contrast...)

@@leonidandreev1171 ... 3. *_>Captain< Ramsey_** ~* Nah, Ramsey 'had' to be a Captain for this episode [1x07]. - a.) What was understated (and therefore easy to miss) was that Ramsey only made Captain very recently. This was a secondary factor to why Ramsey was attempting to recruit Mariner to be her XO (Ramsey still needed one), in addition to her ulterior (but well-meant) motives. - b.) Ramsey also needed to be a Captain in order to have the authority to 'poach' Mariner from the USS Cerritos to the USS Oakland. Not because Captain Freeman would resist the transfer (probably the opposite, given the current mother-daughter conflicts between Freeman vs. Mariner), but because Mariner would not be able to (legally) oppose it; even if Mariner were desperate enough to appeal to Captain Freeman to countermand such. 4. *_Mariner vs. Ramsey_** ~* Mariner is _NOT_ a screw-up, very much the opposite. The 'trick' is that Mariner _KNEW_ (or more accurately, figured it out very early-on) that Ramsey was there to try to make Mariner her XO (a job Mariner did not want); however, Mariner also knew Ramsey's ulterior motives/agenda was earnestly well-intentioned. So Mariner was *_>acting

Now there are 2 of them! This is getting out of hand!

@@TheMrPeteChannel ... - "Bradward, Kurtzman and his _'Modern Trek'_ is evil!" - "From my point of view, the Roddenberry Treks are evil!" *;p*

probably chosen because of Rick & Morty or Final Space.

It’s not THAT bad.

I actually like it. The characters are cartoonish because this is a comedy, but the overall visuals, especially the starships, are very nice.

Well that's stupid. She fails often, has personality flaws, and a background that shows why she is a badass, and when her male boss trash talks her, and physically assaults her, not only does he deliver on his promise to be physically dominant, she wants to have sex with him over it.

You are aware, surely, that EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER in Star Trek is a Mary Sue at some point. Every last one. That's just how they wrote the show back in the day. Only recently have writers allowed the idea that our heroes have character flaws. That's a recent thing, ok?

@Mwhurst391 hey every now and again we have to come and try and stop you people from eating shit and calling it spaghetti.

Elite20001 Nobody fucking asked for your crusade.

Pizza dude Lower Decks rocks, this post makes you look like a plonker

@@Amargosa2006 just go back to eating shit somewhere else you fucking loser

The Orville a spoof ? Lol, get your brain out of your ass dude.

This is the most legitimately Trek thing of the past fifteen years, so I am not sure why

@@ClickBeetleTV yeah keep eating shit and calling it spaghetti. Your why star trek sucks so much they are out to please the lowest common denominator and that is you...

Please this is tons better than STD or STP!

@@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain that's like saying herpies is great to have... compared to aids.

Let me guess you're one of those toxic tweeter user people who use insults and non stop whining instead of being logical

Hello captain kirk

Minnie Driver?! 😮 I thought it was Daisy Ridley! 😅