:o)

Neil Peart is the only reason I listen to RUSH love those drums

Question, Mike, if you put Judas Priest in this tier list where would they land? S tier? (Maiden Fan speaking btw)

I irl lol'd at this comment

GIMMIE FOO GIMMIE FAI GIMMIE DABAJABAZAI OOOOO

translated into Black Metal, "Gimme Fuel, Gimme Fire, Gimme That Witch I Desire, Oooo."

Yeah the ones that tell you Lars writes the music 🙈

I think you meant to say "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle"

Truth

I've noticed that most TOOL fans age 30 and younger are all chill af. I am biased because I am that age, but I think people in their twenties when Lateralus came out are the most toxic IMO.

Tool fans ruined Tool for me

Honestly, the thing that's probably the most annoying about them/us, is that they aren't funny at all

They constantly boo opening acts, F tier.

And remember. He wrote all of Kill em all. Ride the lightning and master of puppets.

The Megadeth fandom is definitely F The diehard fans are super funny Megadeth still fucking rocks 🤘

@Eliza Page 1. Dude. Chill. Who cares. 2. Predictable 3. L + ratio + no dad + no bitches + mid + 🤡 Seriously tho, everyone heard that too many times. Even if it's true. Both bands have their own bad stories and issues, for some reason no one ever brings up Megadeth's. It is genuinely funny seeing people not taking a joke and carrying on to rant 24/7 on the Internet. You didn't have to say that man cmon

@Eliza Page well you got your reaction hehe. I'm pretty sure Oblivion was joking tho, how can you make not fun of your type. And yeah, I mean I'm not gonna report your comments or delete them so no one's really stopping you from commenting, unless you think I'm harassing you. And I'm not man I don't take this stuff too seriously now I've seen too many fans like that lmao. Peace ✌️

I always loved BOTH bands pretty equally😂

Facts

Think that comes from DT fans having, on average, have a more developed pallet for music.

@@MidnightAvalon you legit cannot have any less self awareness

@@acoolduckinabanana7274 that's cool friend, don't think so myself but would love to hear why you think so.

@@MidnightAvalon kinda overreacted looking back at it ngl but I was referring to the stereotypical dream theater fan thinking they listen to “smarter music”, I kinda did come off like a bit of a jackass though ngl my bad

Emphasizing **the worst** of you. A bunch of y'all are super chill 😎

@@jamcentral5258 what how dare you, don't you know Comfortably Numb is the best solo of all time, it has big bends

@@jamcentral5258 Pink Floyd elitist here. And yes, as such I do think people must be mentally ill if they don't se that PF is way better than anything else. That is just how the world work. Nothing noone can do about it. :D

Pink Floyd is 1 of my favorite bands of all time, the only thing that bothers me are the people who praise Syd Barrett, every album he's on sucks & he's super overrated, If u like Syd that's cool, I just can't stand the PF fans that smoke his pole & act like he's a genius! PF at it's heart is David Gilmour, Roger Waters, Richard Wright & Nick Mason🤘

@Budwig van Leethoven agreed, kinda funny considering Syd is only credited on the 1st 2 albums, which imo are terrible! "Atom Heart Mother" "Meddle" & "Obscured by Clouds" are decent albums, but everything from "Darkside of the Moon" to their last album "Endless River" are all great albums imo! Sad what happened to Syd, but I'm not a fan, respectfully!

The Pinocchio Code

@@V.F.D.DaleSalvador beware of insulting anything that has to with tool as well or you will undoubtedly feel there wrath

@@Midna__ You Fool, I am also a Tool Fan. I have EVERY CD (except Salival don't hurt me please)

@@V.F.D.DaleSalvador same xD

Oh how the tables have indeed turned. Don’t hurt me please. I swear the pieces do fit. @@V.F.D.DaleSalvador

Sorry, but as an Animals as Leaders fan, I’ve untangled the Gordian naught of understanding the true meaning of music.

I’m sorry but as a megadeth fan I just don’t give a fuck

Yeah I expected him to be on our ass and put us at the bottom 😂

Same

Yep 😂

Literally embodying my description of IM fans

For the same reason I dislike the new stuff. I understand what people could like about it, I just ain’t feelin it no more. But this has happened to every band I’ve liked so far maybe except for Paramore so That’s probly on me

I'm just happy Dickinson is back in the group still (dark times in the 90s without him in the band). One of the few bands I still regularly buy new releases from. The classic stuff is still classic. But I enjoy hearing new Iron Maiden and have a lot of tracks I go back to on the newer albums in addition to the old. I'm also a sucker for those guitar melodies and leads. Not for everyone though. Biased because this was my first real metal band I got into (via Piece of Mind and Live After Death)

​@@Bedrockbrendan Same with me. It's a lot of the instrumentality that I just love about the newer stuff. it's like they took the philosophy of writing they had with songs like the duelist on powerslave and made it their entire style. My only complaint is the obsession with the idea of having the majority of an album be long epics and if it's a miss (lost in a lost world for example) it's a massive drag for all of the 6-10 minute runtime. That song specifically has a fantastic outro but the rest is mostly boring

I understand that i like a band called apati a Swedish band that is very repetitive in instrumentals but it adds to the droning feeling of their songs.

We are the most inoffensive and laid back fan base out there. We don’t get butthurt when someone criticizes us……unlike nirvana fans.

@@timwallisky6530 God I hate them. Always act like Kurt Cobain was above God or something

Foo fighters fans we love you :D Spread positivity

@@timwallisky6530 im a nirvana fan and honestly there are so many assholes who ruin it for everyone else and make the whole fandom look like shit. I promise you wrre not all like that

@@timwallisky6530 And unlike most music videos from that time period that has a lot of "Born In The Wrong Generation" comments from what I have seen, most comments on Foo Fighters music videos are just chill

LMFAO I didn't even consider that but you are absolutely correct (I'm a Phili fan btw)

Go Eagles!!!!

Honestly, I have interacted with every fan base in the NFL and I gotta say The Kansas City Chiefs fan base takes the number 1 spot. There is not a more arrogant, disrespectful and loud fan base out there. I think it's too bad because they are a really good team, fan base is horrible

@@davyboy9397 lol Cincinnati Bengals fans are easily everything you just mentioned. To the point where they will cheer opposing team player injuries. Just absolutely disgusting behavior.

@@jasonashley9853 For sure , there are bad fan bases for every team, and that is disgusting to do that. Chiefs take the cake tho. The most self conceited fan base period. They talked shite even when they lost to the Colts. They have absolutely zero introspection. They are incapable of being humble, incapable....

*Listens to some of the shittest metal you’ll ever hear*

@@mylerwilson4879 Not all of BM is shit but I agree they have one of the worst elitism and gatekeeping I have seen.

@@J.PC.Designs But comparing it to metalcore and deathcore is comparing apples to oranges as they’re very different for a reason, and not liked for different reasons

@@futurebreedmachine9302 haha love the messuggah reference in your name 😃.... I go to a good amount of BM shows. Maybe 25% are elitist weirdos, the rest are very chill, intelligent, 9 to 5 men & women...

@@J.PC.Designs Depends... I've got a few metalcore bands I listen to killswitch engage, unearth, all that remains, etc.... But it doesnt hit the spot for me like belphegor, dead congregation, dark funeral, etc etc

Surprised he didn't mention that. Dave is known for being very down to earth.

Get the poke or else.

Based comment

I dont get how a grown man can be a nirvana fan

There's definitely people who treat Kurt Cobain "Journals" as their bible of what's cool and uncool.

I’m forever grateful for nirvana because they bridged my gap from post 2000’s music into 1990’s and earlier as a 14 year old, but they’re literally not even in the top 3 grunge bands in my opinion

@@qwerty.4450 What would you rank higher? I'm not that into Grunge, so I only know the usual four (with Alice In Chains being far ahead on the top, followed by Soundgarden)

I’m honestly tired of people only focusing on Kurt. People should focus on the music for crying out loud.

As someone who loves Kiss, I have to agree. No one hates Kiss more than Kiss fans!

I don’t know. I think KISS themselves might be more toxic than their fans.

@@greenmantles I'm regarding the fans that love them. God they reek of elitism it is nasty

as a KISS fan I 100% agree, kiss fans hates kiss fans and yup kiss fans hates kiss. That because they(me included) are really obsessed with the band.

All 3 of them?

I prefer the other 3 Seattle ones but I'm okay with those who were actually around the time of the 90s since I'm a xennial. The ones who have them as a gateway band that mostly listen to top 40 irritate me. I actually find their rarities and B sides to be their better songs like Sappy. Oh, and Dave Grohl is an awesome dude and the best member in the band musically.

@@whenfatkillsfat803 oh yh Dave was absolutely the most musically talented...but I also love Kurt and Krist. And yeah they're not so popular b side stuff is some of their best work. Personally I have listened to pretty much everything they have done that I can find on KZfaq including the fecal matter demos.

Some of the Nirvana fans think they have to 'think like Kurt', as in being totally disrespectful of certain other bands and genres (check out the comment sections on any glam or 80s metal documentary). AiC all the way imho

@@YBM2007 yh literally. Like don't get me wrong a lot of the time I agree with Kurt..but at times I'm like dude...why.

@@whenfatkillsfat803 Depends on what you mean musically.Playing an instrument Grohl was better imo.As far as melody writing,key changes and modulation,Kurt blows almost everyone out of the water.I also prefer Kurt's singing over Grohl's,though that's just a preference,feels like Kurt's voice is more memorable.

The self-aware Weezer fans are the best

Weezer - garbage fans for garbage music

How about the “Blue and Pinkerton are the two greatest albums ever made and everything after that is worthless dogshit” crowd?

Weezer haters can make a 30 minute video essay on why Weezer sucks then Weezer enjoyers will just say "We know" then refuse to elaborate.

*cough* Billy Cobb

A slowed down version of Powerslave

I mean I think the song is a bit meh but I don't see the powerslve similarity?

@@puffin7285 its the powercords used in the intro of stratego and interlude in powerslave. I do love stratego though

Edcd

I was one of those fans then I turned 18 and life happened

Pink Floyd elitist here. And yes, as such I do think people must be mentally ill if they don't se that PF is way better than anything else. That is just how the world work. Nothing noone can do about it. :D

I could get never get into Pink Floyd.

I mean You don’t really see people hating on sabbath or saying that they are overrated because they have the respect of everyone You cant be overrated when you did something that big

@@Leatherface123. right on! And their first six albums are nearly perfect…

As an italian. Can confirm. Went to their 2018 Milan gig, never even listened to them again after that concert. The worst cesspool of “fans”

I have seen that to be the case in many other countries in Europe, it's just these absolute elitists, luckily the younger generation I would say is a bit better

can add UK Iron maiden fans aswell. the most elitist metal/'populraity = good, elitists' ive met have been maiden fans. Id have said D EDIT: will add least here in wales, majority of the black metal fans here are the LEAST elitist. the elitists ive come across are mostly of 2 camps. 1) do not like man bands experiment and try to get a new sound that didnt start before the 90's. 2) Jump on the newest big time popular band and believe a band being popular automatically means the band/music is amazing.

Oh wow that's surprising. And extremely bizarre. I've never met Maiden fans like that.

@@BecomeTheKnight I actually agree I didn't realise there was a toxic base, thankfully (so far) every fan I've met as been down to earth 🙂

Yeah, it's everything. Once you get into them you start to feel like part of the family. Watching Drinks with Johnny and the interview with the DiBenedetto twins and all the stories of how long they have all known each other, been together, and how close they all are. It pulls you in. I can't wait to hear the new stuff... soon!

I’ve tried adjusting to new sights but I always seem to come back to A7X

Yeah its not a thing for everyone, but I've never encountered a toxic A7X fan since I've been one.

What songs do you recommend for newer A7X fans

@@zachzack6171 For a newer fan? I'd generally try and hook them with what most consider their best albums I.E. City of Evil and Nightmare pretty good mix of stuff Critical Acclaim and Hail to the King are also good listens. Specific songs? Bat Country Beast and The Harlot Blinded in Chains Welcome to the Family So Far Away Buried Alive Nightmare Natural Born Killer

This is a greatly under appreciated comment. 😂

Please to meet a fellow Iowan. I’m from Cedar Rapids, how about you?

@@someguy7424 Des Moines 🤘🏼

Look at us Iowa boys, getting so excited at anyone acknowledging us lol. Tommy bolin was an Iowa boy too and that dude was a legend

European here, the only reasons I know Iowa even exists are Slipknot and Seth Rollins.

@@regorf there are some Americans that don’t even know Iowa exists so I understand lol

The funny thing is that Joey DeMaio is probably F tier in toxicity, but Eric Adams is S tier.

I expected the fans to brand everybody else as "POSERS"! On the other hand, powermetal fans like the comic metal band "Nanowar of Steel" prove otherwise. You can hear their love and passion for this music genre in their songs but they still can make a joke out of it at the same time.

Manowar is one of those bands that if you see someone wearing their tshirt it's 0% chance just for fashion, they will be a true fan. I have made quite a few friends from just wearing their shirts and getting chatting with people because of it. The atmosphere at their shows is always great and and I have been able to have great experiences with people from all over the world because of them.

Bro absolutely

Electric triangle... S TIER!

@@sabrethemoment6799 what the f is an electric triangle?

Harmonica while riding a pig has to be S tier.

@@rihardstuka413 Something too scary even for ElectroBOOM to atttempt

I've always preferred Dylan's version of knockin'.

I was going to say that my favorite Dylan songs are ones others covered.

my favorite zeppelin song for a long time was a dylan song without even knowing

Desolation Row

Listening to the Byrds is the only time I like Dylan songs.

You forgot about praising Mangini more than Portnoy.

Love the Astonishing 🤷‍♂️

My favorite band is DT, and... Scenes From A Memory is not perfect because of 2 moments in 2 different songs, IMO: the moaning in Home is unnecessary, at least unnecessarily long; and a minute section in Dance of Eternity is just boring. The Astonishing is good, but I've only listened it once ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ And damn, Labrie is a sad thing in music history. His voice _should_ be better, even at his age, but well, we all know the odyssey. Petrucci's riffs are very boring on the new record. That's akward, because his riff on Distance Over Time are fucking amazing. And that instrumental sections that just repeat a line over and over again, like in A View From The Top of The Wolrd, are very anoying. For me, the worst thing a song can be is repetitive, no matter how cool the idea is. I don't give a shit to "stablishing the theme that will never appear again", it negatively affects the structure of the song. Well, sorry, I was just trying to criticize my favorite band...

The Astonishing is one of my favorite DT albums, and while there's 3-5 unnecessary songs on it, I don't understand why the fanbase hates it so fervently. Most of the album kicked fucking ass, it was very unique for the band too, I feel like yelling "Just LISTEN TO IT" whenever someone calls it garbage, because it so obviously isn't imo.

@@spartansquid5931 they hate it solely because it's different

Dream Theater fans don't accept criticisms on their favorite band ever. For a couple of times I criticized DT's songwriting, and I was received really bad for that. I was polite, I had arguments and points, but the amount of whining, bitching and moaning I received from the fanboys was staggering; even one or two personal insults went my way. I gave up and gave them the victory (i.e. I started to agree with them). That was a wise choice of mine, because they finally shut the F up.

Thankfully I won't judge them solely based upon the FB group lmao! I used to be in that group and it got so bad I left. Incredibly cringe.

The number of times I got shamed on the subreddit for the band because I don't like SFAM but enjoy The Astonishing is, well, astonishing. The amount of DT fans that hold Scenes up as the best concept album that ever was and refuses to hear a different opinion is ridiculous.

@@BecomeTheKnight I'm still there, I sometimes like to set fire under their asses for fun 🤣

@@InfernalRitesCharts Never been in any DT fan group, but I do hold the opinion that SFAM is the best concept record ever record and no, I refuse to hear any arguments against it lol.

you and your whole family don't provide enough air circulation. Hating on aluminium smh my head

I got a bone to pick with people who claim aluminum is the only correct spelling and pronunciation

this is exactly my thoughts

Slayer should definitely be on D or F.

I have made quite a lot of friends from attending Manowar shows and even from wearing their t-shirts around my city leading to people starting conversations. Also had similar with Ensiferum and Wintersun fans. Definitely S in my opinion 😄

3DG? Three Days Grace?

@@frozendilemma yes

@@RafeMcCawley393Absolutely Loved 3DG with Adam. One X is one of my favourite albums. Back in the day 3DG and Breaking Benjamin were my go to bands.

Oh yeah definitely this. It's hilarious when FF fans criticise other bands for being generic and formulaic lol

*THANK YOU!* you get it.... they are annoying asf and very emotional

I agree their fan base is very toxic

Aww look at you 😢

Yeah, that one was kinda surprising to me. They are so obsessed over the fibonacci sequence and other useless shit they include their highly predictable and mid songs, it's insane. I can say the same thing about Polyphia, obsessing solely on some of the technical stuff and forgetting about everything else that makes a good song.

​​@@deepenwadhwa4027 that polyphia one is so true and also along with the teen girl section of their fandom that only got into polyphia cause of Tim Henson's looks

George Harrison doesn’t get enough credit imho

I think he's a bit misinformed... a lot of those guys are ignored *FAST!* . And, I go to a good amount of BM shows 😂.... extreme metal umbrella period

i think he should start with maybe prometheus the physics of fire or ishans solo stuff which is super prog than work back to the brilliance that is emperors earlier stuff

I feel like the only Black Metal he has listened to is the wired DBM stuff and Burzum. I think he should at least give Emporer and Dissection a try before writing the whole genre off.

Yeah you can tell he hasnt really dug into the subgenre but hes right about the elitists.

@@Hellenicheavymetal I honestly don't see that either, am mostly getting warm and friendly energies from all the big black metal loving KZfaq channels such as Quest for metal or Farvann and their fans.

Lmfao that's awesome

Before EVH's death I use to hear he was the biggest dick ever and after, everyone says he was the most down to earth person ever

This applies to Chris Cornell as well

@@iliketrains3495 I don't think his / Chester / Layne fanbase is toxic.

…and Queen.

…and the musically ignorant plebs who watch a Hollywood docu-film about an artist and are all of the sudden superfans/ experts on them.

I mean most people don't understand music theory so naturally will care more for lyrics. I have a limited amount of music theory knowledge but I still prefer prog bands.

@@Heatwave9000 word yeah, of course, but this guy just wasn't having it. Literally said Music is only good if it has lyrics, like thats a complete lie

Jason Becker is still alive lol he is just disabled from disease

Mate, I am sorry you met some bad people. I am a female too, 24yo and Eastern European (Albanian) which has been a diehard black metal fan since when I was 10 but not elitist nor racist...I have to say that I probably didn't get any toxic comments bc I didn't reveal my gender and I have a very male mindset but what surprised me was that I felt very welcomed among behemoth fans and there I even revealed my gender so...well I think there's good and bad everywhere even in bm

Did you finally dig into DT ?

@@futurebreedmachine9302 Oh yeah, huge fan! I've listened to every album at this point.

That's a really dumb reason not to listen to bands lmao

I have a feeling they put Morrison on a pedestal, then the rest of the band by extension. Again, there are also a bunch of super chill fans (one of them is a very good friend of mine and we laugh about how much I hate The Doors lol)

@@BecomeTheKnight The Doors is my favorite band but I find it annoying too. Jim Morrison was the one great person who had a huge impact on my life... but he wasn't a living god or something like that. It also doesn't mean I don't like the other band members. Robbie Krieger is a very creative and a good fucking guitarist, John Densmore is very good at rhythm and Ray Manzarek is a fucking key god.

I liked Queen (I don't as much anymore) but holy fuck I always found the memes so atrocious

This is so damn true. Love Portnoy’s drumming. I prefer his drum sound to Mangini’s (at least on the albums). But people need to get the fuck over it. As somebody who probably prefers him overall, Portnoy fanboys tend to be awful.

True 😂

I agree with you man. I've been black metal fan since when I was 11yo but never been racist, elitist or fascist (it would be a paradox since I am eastern european lol) and don't recognize myself with the elitists there. I also love Iron Maiden but not their older fans: they literally asphalted me for saying that I don't hate Maiden latest album. Well I understand that their glory years are gone but they should shut up and leave the younger fans like me have our chance to enjoy some maiden without being criticized everywhere. Do they have nostalgy of the old days where maiden where better? Time for them to lock themselves in their house and listen to their older records.

And there’s A LOT of political illiteracy among the fanbase

Everyone already knows that lol

And they’re very deluded and think he invented the tech death genre when his “influence” is over stated

@@mylerwilson4879 I'd have to agree

Love Death

I'm literally wearing a death shirt right now 😂.... I've always found death fans to be very welcoming and intelligent. You've described most hardcore thrash fans I've come across who happen to be big death fans also... who tend to be "clingy"

I think you called The Doors, Megadeth, and Mike Patton’s respective fan bases perfectly. I have had bad experiences with douchey, condescending Pearl Jam fans, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re not one of them. No strong opinion on RHCP fans, as you said, they cover a wide range. As for Creed, they are much like Nickelback in that you don’t see too many outspoken fans, but the haters are so in your face and predictable that it makes you want to respect the band and their fans just on principle.

@@someguy7424 somehow the Pearl Jam subreddit is incredibly accepting.. unless you say “I hate Binaural.” But they are in no way toxic to the casual listener or new fan that wants to enjoy the band. I feel like with Pearl Jam and RHCP fans, both bases can be defensive but I think the key difference is that a lot of Pearl Jam fans, due to the band’s driven efforts to cater to their diehards (among them suing motherf*cking ticketmaster to make their tickets more affordable) a lot of them can be powerfully defensive and loyal. Both bands get dissed on social media, but I guess I can understand a fan passionately defending a band that has been actively protective of them (Pearl Jam). I feel like RHCP fans feel similarly - the only reason I dock them a tier is that, like Star Wars or The Dallas Cowboys, there’s SO many of them that the quality inevitably dilutes a little. I also feel like 🌶️ fans can get defensive a little *too* easily, but to be fair that band gets a lot of hate in certain circles. Creed fans and Nickelback fans , if there are any un-ironic ones from WAY back, know that it’s hopeless to really *defend* them, I think. Which is why, for me, antagonizing them is kicking them while they’re down. No point. I’ll spew a relatively mild take and say at least Creed fans can claim a few solid tracks by the band; I have no idea what band people are hearing when they say Nickelback is good. They’ve been **awful** since Silver Side Up - at best.

@@MachineGunPhilly Im a nickelback fan and lets just the fandom is on par with metallica the elitist are really annoying but a majority are pretty chill about but I will never be elitist because I like a lot of rock and metal bands but elitism sucks pretty bad

There's a few toxic RHCP fans, from the Frusciante supremacists to people who defend that one song from Funky Monks (if you're a hardcore fan you'll know which one I mean), but yeah it's a pretty good fanbase overall. And I respect the shoutout to ARTV, I'm a big fan of his and although some of his favourite bands I do have a few issues with his takes on them (i.e. Muse, Brand New, Paramore, all for different reasons), I'd say he's pretty much the blueprint of what an RHCP fan should be. Also, my biggest issue with Patton/FNM fans is their overt hate boner for RHCP. I've never seen a fanbase so dedicated to hating on another band.

Even worse than Eminem's or K-pop's ?

@@futurebreedmachine9302 I don't think those are as bad, plus kpop at least gets a pass because the average age of a kpop fan must be about 12. You don't really expect it to be much

​@@blazejecar Are you being serious? Kpop fans are so toxic to the extent that they banded together and reported other music video/artist that makes fun of Kpop, until it is taken down/deleted. 😂😂😂

@@iqbalmuhammad2920 Dimash fans are much worse, trust me. On my other channel I got death threats for attempting to cover Dimash. Dimash's threads on various forums are the only ones with warnings in big red letters and more banned accounts than I've ever seen anywhere else. Dimash fans are the most obsessed, closed-minded, aggressive and uncivilized people I have ever seen. Kpop has bad apples too, but not so many and not this bad. And again, Kpop fans are mostly kids and teens, Dimash fans are full adults also in their 30s and 40s. Absolutely pathetic people

@@iqbalmuhammad2920 Dimash fans are incomparably worse. I got d***h threats for attempting to cover Dimash and when 1 guy showed up in my comments and said he actually liked my cover, he got bombarded with 40 hate comments too. Dimash threads on forums are the only ones with big red letter warnings and piles upon piles of banned accounts. Kpop fans can be bad, but nothing on Dimash fans level. Also kpop fans are mostly kids and teens, Dimash fans are mostly adults. Uncivilized, closed-minded, aggressive and unhealthily obsessed people