Great response though: "Oh dear"

"Stay where you are." Whaaat the fuuuuuck

That "oh dear" made my night, poor lady barely made it!

IKR? I thought that was kinda mean. I hope they didn't let her sit there for more than a few seconds before Derren came downstairs.

She did look rather like she was out of her comfort zone...

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Shake away

😂

@@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 😂

@@perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 that was a violation

Carey lol Clever but sick

Ambigram, I'm so glad someone else saw it, which means Derron had already decided to treat the lady 👍

@2:43

+J Bay yeah i noticed that, I think in season two (or maybe just later episodes, i don't remember) they started using cards that weren't the same

+LoggyK I have the DVD collection and he exposes that himself in one of the last experiments.

+J Bay There is many way for doing that, it is for sure he controlled the "game" XD. Thanks for pointing it out.

+J Bay they are called ambigrams, in this case used to determine the outcome of what is made to believe a 'free choice'. you really think derren would subject a sweet little 75 year old lady to a trick like the 'killing the cat' episode or 'waking up to find you were dead' show?! come on get real

I know she is adorable

When she says oh dear at the start I began to well up I screamed noooooo

Jamie Caldwell, I know what you mean! hahahaha. She's such a SWEET and ADORABLE lady that no one want's anything bad to happen to her! LOL.

Every elderly woman are lovely

right. i doubt he would get past the muppet round.

He wouldn't go far. This was ridiculously fake

Is this a joke

@@johnkenny6718 no

@@joyfulness9968 any links for this?

Plot twist

But she does like a pizza

+Staminist And she bet her life savings, and came in last..poor gal.

+Staminist This is why I think second place was perfect for the situation. The experience served as a lesson in confidence and skill, but also provided a reminder that there's always a bit of luck involved.

She's to old to be playing poker anyway

+J_D0g Wiscr4ck i think doyle brunson would disagree with you ;)

der Mann Yeah, one guy will disagree with me

+Mike D. very true and this takes time, plus if it was that easy to read people Darren would be a poker millionaire instead of hypnotist

+Mike D. Yeah I wouldn't trust any of his explanations unless he'd enter a couple big tournaments. If he'd really have such a big edge, he should get good results.

+Echo Ellis I'm pretty sure Derren is banned in a few major casinos for his memorisation techniques. So even if he wanted to play he wouldn't be able to. And I'm pretty sure he's also making big bucks being a extremely good mentalist with a TV show and all. Life is not all about money anyways! And "tells" make up a lot of your calculation, you really have to read your opponent hand more than your own. That's what differentiates an amateur and a pro! A lot of pros sometimes call All-ins based on tells or feelings that they are being bluffed

+Ham absoloutely i'm sure he doesen't need the money but imagine how much fun it would be as a mentalist to play live poker? Also there's a big difference between reading live physical tells (a small part of poker) and reading someones hand based on betting patterns, how they've previously been betting, the line they've taken etc - that is the part that takes years to perfect and experience is key, proffessional players bluff far less than you'd think.

Aidan Ellis​ Physical tells are equally important to tells based on their hands, that's what really makes or breaks a poker player. Many NLHE players do not know simple verbal tells and many raise with moderate hands trying to hit on the pot. For the bluff part it depends on player's play style I guess. A glass cannon is sure to bluff much more like martinez

+Loc Trang (lock2701) Dont have enough information about pre-flop and her play style to make that judgement, but okay.

was meant to be a joke. In poker you win $ by getting people to make donkey calls but sometimes it back fired. Like the time i got pocket 3s vs pocket Jacks, flops 3, 10, 7; got the guy to push all in and the turn comes a J. I lost $50.

ha ha so true lol but he did say he can't guarantee what cards fall. she read him well and made great call unfortunately some people play like idiots and still hit a two outer.

+Loc Trang (lock2701) Cool story bro... However you should know that calling an all in w JJ on a flop of undercards is not a donkey call. He had an overpair, made the right call and got lucky. The mere mention of the petty amount of money you lost in the hand makes me thing that you are way out of your financial depth on such small stakes. Maybe you should scale back and play the microstakes. Furthermore, we all have a badbeat story; why did you feel the need to annoy us with one more?

+Loc Trang (lock2701) There is no surviving donkey calls, except not making bluffs that a thinking player would respect.

+kekagiso they are pro's

+kekagiso I preferred the call with 99 and two outer on the turn

+Tyler Durden 2 pair is hard to beat my friend

EricSmyth14 True, but calling off with an under pair on an ace high flop is usually a bad play. Especially to an amateur all in. The shocking part is the 9 ball on the turn, didn't see that coming.

kekagiso zynga poker: the life

And a gutshot.

Against top pair she would be a 50:50 flip, and against a worst FD she would be a big favorite.

FuckYouGooglePlus damn how many times are you gunna bitch about him under other people’s comments? I‘m a believer in skepticism and I think it’s good of you to question what you’re watching and scrutinize the tricks you don’t understand but you’ve made like four comments under this video alone. Get a life already. Leave a dislike and gtfo. Obviously you interpret anything you can’t 100% wrap your tiny brain around as fake so it’s not surprising how upset you seem after watching this.

you can't be all loosey goosey, having a sandwich.

@@fonzemusic3718 ah we have a man of culture.

Yeah, says who?!?!

@@lyingcat9022 Danial Negrano

It is spelled Danniel Negrenoo

LMAO!!

AJ H Not necessarily, those “pros” have hardly any winnings. They suck.

You don’t know what the blinds were and it’s 3 handed, and we don’t know what his position. It could of been the right play. Normally 3 handed k9s is a raising hand and since she is a novice she played it differently than most poker players would

Channing is a pro player and commentator. Those figures of winnings are not true. Much higher

Ahmet Ali I wouldn’t announce to the government how much money I make playing cards either

@@stanvaksman5651 even a pro wouldn't shove with those cards on a loose cannon. It's fake

Sold the House, wife and children, A kidney and an eye...

gg

@@carlossaroufim sold the wife and children? lmao

Agreed, I asked my wife why someone would do that to an old lady

Agreed, I am shocked it lasted more than 30 hands.

...as his character from "Good Omens"?

+Kabitu1 Im playing a lot of poker and watch a lot of poker. I understand that it might seem that way, but she really read those players damn well and the hand she lost was bad luck. With a pair of 99s in your hand the chance that another 9 hits is about 10% of the time. This means that on the Flop 8 A 8 she has a ~90% chance to win with the Ace she has.

+Mark Wintrich The odds are closer to 8% to hit the the 3rd 9, closer to 8% on the turn and 4% on the river if the turn was a blank. She made the right call pushing all in any poker player that says overwise I have no words for

+Kabitu1 It is more likely that he has influenced us by selecting the hands she played best. Perhaps she is just a calling station and these guys suck. The whole thing is just not clear enough for any judgement.

+Kabitu1 There might be misdirection going on, but that's not it. Her hand obviously was massively superior with that flop.

netfischer What I mean is, if that card had come out in her favor, I'll bet my balls Derren would've been all "amazingly she made the right call, and wins the pot", no mention of luck or chance.

you realize it says treat on both cards

They both also say trick upside down. So Derren can ultimately choose whether to give trick or treat. These kinds of stylised fonts are called "Rotational Ambigrams" for anyone wondering. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram

it is merely the illusion of choice as this entire show is illusory at heart

Her trick would've been a 50 man bukkake party

He would Leave her on that bus hypnotised

Right?? I'd win against all of these people

At best a tell might tip the scales in a close call, but it's vastly less important than math, ranges, position, etc.

@BARNES_X23 ASMR THAT argument is dumb. "Knowing ranges" will depend entirely on who you're playing against and what the exact situation is, and these things are extremely fluid and dynamic and all anyone can do is make educated guesses. So saying every pro has "similar knowledge" is really nonsense because that assumes they're all equally good at making those educated guesses and making the best decisions given the exact situation they're in, and that's obviously not the case. Plus, pros give off far less tells because most (especially the internet wizards) are always thinking analytically rather than emotionally. It's also telling that most of the top pros today were those that started online and dominated there, learning stuff like ranges and math where tells are useless, and have made easy transfers into dominating live games. Meanwhile, many of the pros of old who relied on "reading players" are not good online players.

​@BARNES_X23 ASMR You said: "People who know ranges are up against other people with similar knowledge," and nowhere in that did you include any exceptions. In any cases, tells are only reliable if players are reliably giving them off, and most players don't. Even with bad players tells can be extremely unpredictable. The problem is that a lot of tells are actually about certain psychological conditions that can apply to a wide range of hands both good and bad. EG, excitement can be felt both when bluffing and when holding monster, or uncertainty felt in any situation where one isn't sure what to do regardless of the strength of their hand. The time/effort it takes to study tells would almost always be better spent studying/adjusting ranges. Of course, if you can do both, then do both.

@BARNES_X23 ASMR You gain an edge against other regs by being better at estimating hand ranges and performing EV calculations. It's that simple. Poker is complex enough that even though both of you might know the basics, you can be better at making adjustments given the specific situation you're in. According to you, there would be no way for some regs to be better than other regs online, but that's clearly not the case.

Lol

+Xtraderr It's often correct in a tournament.

+Xtraderr Pro troll

It's actually not a troll ....

Fish Rapist He is a famous KZfaq Pro, I would know.

40 blinds.

They started with FORTY LOL.

u look good

@@rasmus7400 Simp

@@lalafirdous5717 What?

lol. In order to do that, I'm pretty sure you would have to get Derren to give you the footage left on the cutting room floor. As that is most definitely the only place it ever aired!

Right? And when the camera cuts, she's walking alone at night. lol I seriously hope they actually brought her home.

yo

very sweet that he intentionally chose treat for the kind old lady :>

+Effendi Chivers As far as my 10 minutes of Googling goes, there was never a poker tournament called Bluff Europe Poker Challenge. Looked up Jeff Duvall's poker game history, no mention of Bluff Europe or Poker Challenge. I strongly suggest these (what I suspect to be mediocre) professional poker players were hired as stooges.

+Mark McGough no you do have bluff magazine though haha, have no were near the money of the top uk pros.

Nik Persaud and Neil Channing are definitely real poker pros, so I assume the others are too. You could say you're a tennis pro, but if you're not in the top 100, who would have heard of you?

Anthony Holden wrote the bloody book on Poker! He's been playing in the WSOP since the 80's, trust me, he's no "donk"!

I know 4 of those poker players from various poker TV shows , they are not super famous but they are professional poker players . One of them wrote a good book on poker . Also i will point out some of the world richest and best poker players are not well known at all.

+Cris D lol neil channing and nick persaud are not fish

+Cris D na dude, you are wrong. Going all in pre flop with a Q high is what all the pros do these days!

+Josh Duenas Derren was teaching her only to notice when someone was bluffing or weak. Or when she had higher cards than the other person. I would have to disagree with you buddy :)

+Robert C. Christian What about the fact that was pointed out that there is no info about this tournament anywhere, suggesting it was a fake set up? Just asking because you seem to be the main one defending the legitimacy of this bit.

Kanye Twitty No worries. I know a lot about poker. Do you know any of the players? There was a famous player playing who plays in all the top cash games and tournaments. Tournaments go on all the time. Nothing is stopping any company from creating a tournament. At any rate, Neal Channing is the famous cash and tournament poker player I was talking about. Could they have faked the whole poker tournament? Sure. But from everything I've seen of Derren Brown, he doesn't go around promoting fakery, he goes around exposing it. If he sets something up as fake, he tells everyone at the end or shows everyone. He also tells you vaguely how he's doing things. So there is no reason to think the tournament was faked and not only that, if you play poker, you'd know they were actually playing poker... It wasn't faked. It was a real game, whether or not it was listed in the poker database. It's also possible for you to verify if the tournament is real or not. All you have to do is look in the hendon mob database for Neil Channing. Then you need to find out the date of this tournament or at least the year (by researching when this trick or treat episode was created) and see if you can track which one it was in the hendon mob database. I personally don't need to because as I said, Derren exposes fakes and says to us all exactly what he's doing.

Robert C. Christian Ok, fair enough. I don't know much about poker at all. I agree that Darren is more honest than most magicians but these are still tricks, he may have taught her a method to win, but i think he is misleading the audience to make it appear he is teaching her a very advanced almost supernatural face reading technique but it's probably some boring math based technique shes really learning.

Kanye Twitty I don't think so. If you remember at the beginning, he said he didn't want to teach her much poker because it would get in the way with what he wanted to teach her. I think he just taught her body language techniques and facial reading techniques. It would go a long way if I had this in poker. I do it anyways (most likely not as good as Derren or even close), but it's taken years to learn it. It's a big advantage in my poker game. (I play 3 or 4 times a week in live cash games)

The problem is the tournament wasn't structured to allow that strategy to work; the pros knew it was a crapshoot where they'd have to take chances.

@@jonathanhenderson9422, You said, "The problem is the tournament wasn't structured to allow that strategy to work", …..sorry but that doesn't make any sense. There was 5 Poker pros playing vs at best, a novice poker player and she outlasted all of them. IT wasn't the structure , it was the fault of the pros not making adjustments.

@@LEFTaTIP She outlasted them by chance because the structure largely negated the skill gap and forced them to take risks. For skill to consistently beat luck in poker you need time and a healthy blind-to-stack size ratio and neither was present here. Start this tourney with 300 big blinds and make the levels 2 hours and then they could've beaten her with fundamentals easily. 40 big blinds and 90 minutes for an entire tournament... might as well roll dice to determine the winner. Hell, it's easy to go 90 minutes without seeing a single premium hand. The only real strategy here is to take shots and hope you get lucky.

Hopefully not poker pro in 2 weeks is just ridiculous

+KillEveryoneKillPhil haha, I have this feeling form the start when they hired all the actors on that bus. In reality, if the bus is going a different route, this old lady should notice, and when the bus parked at a strange place with all the lights off, the old lady should freak out. However she acted like nothing happened, not even a change of facial expression. If it's poker, then I have to say that's a bad bluff.lol Then it comes to the poker training part.One person is reading out all the cards, and they are guessing which card that person has as well as the suit of that card. This part actually made me laugh so hard. Not a person without superpower can pull this off. If they just guess the card, that's acceptable, but the suit of the card? And I'll leave no comment for the poker game. It goes the way exactly where I expected, as ridiculous as the previous script. I guess I played too much poker, and I pick up tells on everything. lol.

***** Dude, before you write an essay, I suggest you learn some poker concepts. Just basic concepts are enough.

+br0dskalk When you see a 3-year-old goof around with a basketball, would you believe if I say he plays for the NBA league? Of course not, because he can barely dribble the ball! That's how the poker game goes in this video.

+Xiao Zhu I've seen magic tricks in which a person guesses what card is the volunteer thinking within a single try. And I myself have guessed entire phone numbers with only two attemps for each number. Sometimes I played games like that with my sister when I was a child.

+Xiao Zhu I got called up on one of Derren's live shows and he guessed 3 times in a row a film I was thinking of. I'm inclined to believe it is possible to read signals on people judged on that.

Jack Stone I did have an idea that was probably the plan behind it; since what he was going to do would have been pre planned

no shit buddy

they both say trick they both say treat

+Yhowbyjytub310 maybe cuz he doesnt wanna use his demon magic to fuck this poor old lady up ;)

Yeah.... We all know ambigrams bro.... Dan Brown kinda made them part of the public awareness in angles and demons

then learn how to play the game right at #acepokersolutions

so everyone is going to get trick?

it's up to him if he wants to trick or treat the volunteer.

Ha! Didn't realise that. Thanks.

he shows this in one of his videos derren flips the treat around making both cards trick

Comatose Labotamy no its not

+Tristan Taffs the cards have both trick and treat on them, if you rotate them 180 degrees, you get the other, he decides whether thy get trick or treat or not

nahh hellmuth is there, check the guy's nick name

She probably wouldn't read durrrr lol

Ffs Wuji

Derren is a mentalist, this includes many things like hypnosis and magic, he should be a great hypnotist, but idk if he knows hypnotherapy... I'm also a hypnotist, but I don't want to go to hypnotherapy