Beekeeping | Are Pollen Patties Worth It or Worthless? Ep.4 Don't Do It Wrong!

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Beekeeping | Are Pollen Patties Worth It or Worthless? Ep.4 Don't Do It Wrong!

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In beekeeping it is so easy for beekeepers to make a poor choice, sometimes because they are only following someone's repeated mistakes. In this video we will examine if pollen patties are worth it or worthless and we'll discuss how and what bees like to eat. There's a much better way to feed bees.
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@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Be sure and check out my follow up and expanded video, "When and How to Feed Your Bees". Here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f7Z5ZKxpmMivZac.html

@Mr123Gladiator 2 жыл бұрын

There are 4 Beekeepers in the USA that stand out as being the best. You Mr. Burns are one of the four. People benefit greatly from your videos etc. Keep doing what you are doing.

@wwoutdoors7300 3 жыл бұрын

I just make my own patties. Using pollen,honey, sugar. Bee pro pollen form Mann lake. The bees seem to love it.

@loucasella5148 3 жыл бұрын

I make my own patties...It's easy. Then I roll the patties thin and cut them into strips slightly smaller then the width of the frame. I place the strips in the top of the frames where there is open brood and eggs. I only feed them patties and syrup during a dearth. They much prefer pollen and nectar from flowers when they can get it.

@DavidLaFerney 21 күн бұрын

Of course bees won’t take syrup if it’s below about 50 - but they will take pollen patties. They will also eat hard dry sugar if they need food - all winter long. Of course it’s better to feed up your bees before winter if possible - but emergency feed is better than letting them starve. Sometimes now that we don’t really have winters in TN anymore they go through a lot more food than normal and most of the starvation here happens in spring - when nectar is actually available, they have lots of brood to feed, but it’s too cold or wet for them to forage. And they won’t take cold syrup.

@noahriding5780 3 жыл бұрын

It would be really fun to hear about what kinds of bee genetics strains & types you'd tried out and what your thoughts are on them.

@paulgroth5414 Жыл бұрын

I have found that you need the bees to have full access to patty(spacer bar) to help with the hive beetles, your design has hive beetles accessing the patty where bees can't get to. I agree hive beetles can be a problem. I love your videos! Awesome ideas on feeding!

@iandixon1937 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool nosema information! My bees absolutely devoured the couple of pollen patties I gave them in the early summer. Looking forward to the next video!

@richardwilliams7264 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video Dave

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you liked it.

@jerrywallace2364 2 жыл бұрын

I like pollen patties for starting up a new hive with package bees and it helps expose bettles to smash them.

@christopherroop4937 3 жыл бұрын

👍 Worth it or Worthless videos

@joer5627 3 жыл бұрын

This time of year in Georgia, they are Small Hive Beetle magnets. I can only use the smallest of pollen patties. I did see for the first time recently someone make a very loose pollen-syrup mixture and spreading it on plastic foundation. They commented if thinly spread it will be consumed quickly. Who knows?

@CastleHives 3 жыл бұрын

I use them during certain times of the year, mainly early in the year to help them brood up. Now, they’d just collect SHB.

@dey4588 Жыл бұрын

I added a super with 3 frames peeled off one side and laid it paper side down. Placed the inner cover as to provide space above the pad. So far so good. Also I'm new and know nothing yet.

@aarondlancaster 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video on wax management also how bees use their mandibles.

@snvm69 9 ай бұрын

Need to read a book called keeping bees with a smile

@SageandStoneHomestead 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Watching the other video asap!

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Cool

@roberth293 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great series - wonderful idea, and well executed. Thank you.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you are enjoying it.

@genekidd931 3 жыл бұрын

Hi David, I am a beginner bee keeper love your videos. I have tried the pollen patties i found that they are more trouble than they're worth, I do put sweet water at the hive at 50/50 water That Gene Kidd West Plains Missouri

@HaselorHoney 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, great video 🐝🐝

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it.

@bgtrev 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very informative off to your next video.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@anthonyl.goraczko6099 2 жыл бұрын

Freeze the patties , then let it get a little soft and cut into strips , remove the wax paper . Put one strip on top of a in hive feeder .

@AlleyCat-1 2 жыл бұрын

When I've used them, I put a 1/2 one on the top of the deep box, but under the top board. But definitely don't like using them in the hive. Maybe set them out away from the hive. Does the small hive beetle get into the powder if it's not mixed into water? How to keep earwigs out of the hive (under the bottom screen) ?

@a3skywarrior929 3 жыл бұрын

Please expand on the spores in the bee gut. I tried the patty in my first hive last year...they didn't touch it. So I already feeding with sugar water. 🐝

@curve5746 Жыл бұрын

I just put one on my hive for the first time. I usually use a carousel top feeder but the ants are relentless. So I put it on the top box under the inner cover. Seems they are struggling to find pollen right now. It has been so dry. They must have been hungry because they immediately went for it.

@cc9z 3 жыл бұрын

can we dissolve the pollen paddy in water and feed it to the bees

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, no clue, but you could test it out.

@mirandap8869 3 жыл бұрын

Great video but my question is about that epic shirt you are wearing! I NEED that! Where do I find one?

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked the shirt. The link to the Alien shirt is down in the description. Thank you.

@fredlaedtke6425 Ай бұрын

How do you administer powder to bees protein powder

@beek Ай бұрын

This is a great question for our livestream. Every Thursday night at 7pm central time, here's the link: kzfaq.infoWyDOnzRy5O4

@chicweber809 3 жыл бұрын

thank you ! :)

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@abedj1220 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I have a bee hive in a partially hollowed out tree. it seems like a small hive. I can see three combs and one is a max of a foot in length by several inches wide. I would like to try to offer them food. In pa it gets cold and not sure where I can put one of these patties to make it available to them. any suggestions?

@reddog3551 3 жыл бұрын

How much sugar water do I need to feed during dearth. I have six colonies, put out 2.5 gallons in community feeders. In one hour all of it was gone. No spillage or leakage. Do I feed more or less

@rickmoore52 Жыл бұрын

I am just a hobbyist, so I confess to not knowing much. Perhaps I am lucky, but here is middle Tennessee the pollen starts early. Not it's mid-February and the bees bring in lots of pollen every day then can fly. I have never needed to feed my bees here. But also when I lived in Montana and the winter was long, I never fed my bees there and they always thrived. So I guess I don't know what I'm doing and the bees seem to take care of themselves. Or I'm lucky.

@mowser4104 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your videos. As a new bee keeper I’m looking for all the information I can get. It would be so helpful to be able to talk to a successful bee keeper my area. We don’t have much help for new bee keepers in our area.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome as a new beekeeper and I'm glad you are enjoying the videos!

@andrewcrossen6740 3 жыл бұрын

So if you say bees don't have teeth how do they chew through the wax caps and work wax combs????

@billbyrd9845 2 жыл бұрын

How do they eat through the candy in the queen traps?

@beek 2 жыл бұрын

I made a recent video about that.

@chicweber809 3 жыл бұрын

where do i find the links for the products you are putting in your mix ? :)

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. In the description below the video.

@fredlaedtke6425 Ай бұрын

How do I go about ordering your protein powder

@beek Ай бұрын

This is a great question for our livestream. Every Thursday night at 7pm central time, here's the link: kzfaq.infoWyDOnzRy5O4

@kareneaton3395 3 жыл бұрын

So David, how do you explain how nurse bees eat beebread, which is the consistency of a pollen sub patty?

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Nurse bees do eat bee bread, honey and pollen which is within reach of the brood nest area, such as on comb with young larvae. I am NOT saying that nurse bees do not eat pollen patties, as I believe they can. And there are times when I'm sure patties are close to the consistency of bee bread, though certainly not the same ingredients.

@kareneaton3395 3 жыл бұрын

@@beek I feel that you were making such a strong point about bees eat everything through a straw (their proboscis) and to feed them liquid is "the best way" to feed bees. For their carbohydrates yes but not their protein needs IF they are in NEED of supplemental feeding as in a pollen dearth. I would hope that you discuss open feeding dry pollen sub (powder) as a better way to provide bees protein. Bringing it in, packing it into cells, and mixing it with honey/nectar into bee bread and eating it to make royal jelly. Eliminating the small hive beetle problems that patties cause.

@jaumecambra9648 8 ай бұрын

What about fatty acids or lipids in lets say proteinic syrups?

@beek 8 ай бұрын

It would be best to only use mixtures which have been tested for bees.

@jaumecambra9648 8 ай бұрын

@@beek Thanks!!

@harrybrown3660 3 жыл бұрын

How do the bees put the pollen into cells if they drink it? Won’t it bet stored in the honey?

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

They do both, when they consume flower nectar there is some grains of pollen that the consume. Even though they carry most of the nectar back to the hive, some is pulled into the 2nd gut for energy and it has some pollen in it. But, they carry pollen in their back legs back to the hive and drop it into cells in the comb for future food.

@apiproductapiproduct2492 Жыл бұрын

Leucine and iso-leucine are 2 different amino acidis

@Peter-od7op 3 жыл бұрын

Iam confused you sell board with pollen patty set up.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Years ago I designed it to accept a pollen patty. Many people still use it for that. If you don't, it serves as a nice upper ventilation board

@Peter-od7op 3 жыл бұрын

@@beek ok ty

@Beek_rogers 3 жыл бұрын

So, if bees eat everything through their proboscis straw, how do the nurse bees consume the bee bread that is stored?

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

I think I answered this in another comment. Bee bread is a bit more wet and fermented but they certainly do eat it, as when it is on the same frame as developing larvae. However, I've inspected many hives that had zero bee bread in the hive and yet they had tons of larvae.

@rodney9799 3 жыл бұрын

Did you do your video on a refractometer yet if it Worth it or not

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

I've had one day of filming and tomorrow is the final day of filming whether the refractometer is worth it or not. I have to get into the hives to gather samples of uncapped honey and I've had trouble working my schedule between crazy amounts of rain.

@HERBALNATUMAN1 2 жыл бұрын

Does that train go by very often?

@beek 2 жыл бұрын

Two tracks, so yes, hourly and sometimes 2 at a time different directions.

@richmin7130 3 жыл бұрын

I have had bees about a month, i put strips of pollen patties on the tops of the frames and within a week i had SHB larvae in the patties.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Yea, happens to me too sometimes.

@MrColtnutz Жыл бұрын

Protein synthesis.

@jhulin9018 3 жыл бұрын

David, I have a concern of mixing the pollen in with the sugar water as it violates a basic principle I try to live by and that is "let the bees tell me what they need as they know best". There are time when they only want/need/take sugar water and not pollen. By adding the pollen in with the sugar water I am essentially forcing them to take the pollen if they want/need the sugar water. I am not sure that is good. I love the avoidance of the issues associated with pollen patties by mixing pollen in the sugar water but again the bees know what they want and I don't want to not let them dictate to me what they need and when. Interested in your thoughts on this.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

I certainly respect and honor your approach. Keep doing what is successful for you. For me, I see it as bees NEVER eating just plain sugar water. As humans, we are not designed to drink plain sugar water. Our fruits are loaded with sugar but we also consume fiber and minerals and vitamins when we eat the fruits. Bees always consume some protein in nature when they consume honey. So I view feeding bees plain sugar water as not a good thing. Again, that's just my thoughts..which you asked for 😃

@wildnesssurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Are you serious? Obviously bees can't "eat" solid food but they can always add water and make it liquid. That's how they consume solidified honey and they do the same with solid patties. And by the way, not much water is required.

@wwoutdoors7300 3 жыл бұрын

I put bee pro in my sugar water.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Good plan.

@wwoutdoors7300 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not hard when I do it. Just be careful.

@wilvertperez 3 жыл бұрын

Man lake should not be on business they fail with me and I’m done with them

@BillyBobBrookTrout 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but I can't give you a thumbs up unless you have CC in your videos. Thank you!

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

I'll check into that. Thanks.

@beek 3 жыл бұрын

Okay, my videos have Closed Caption. KZfaq gives you an option to select CC

@BillyBobBrookTrout 3 жыл бұрын

@@beek Hi David, yes, most of your videos have cc but the one on pollen patties didn't give me the option. I know you're a busy man and I don't want to be annoying. I just wanted to inform you and maybe there are others with hearing impairments that are missing out as well. Thank you.